Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
100 Pages « < 54 55 56 57 58 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Fundsupermart.com v15, 基金超市第十五章 - Rise the Dragon

views
     
wongmunkeong
post Oct 6 2016, 02:47 PM

Barista FIRE
Group Icon
Elite
5,608 posts

Joined: May 2011
From: Here, There, Everywhere


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 6 2016, 02:39 PM)
If like that my IRR >10% lor whistling.gif

Buat apa nak tipu sendiri? Past failure is part of your history, self-denial won't do u much benefit.

That is why I have both IRR and rolling 12-months returns to keep track my investment performance.
*
ahem - akauntan
need 1 more check/track to keep in check reality heheh tongue.gif
tri-angulate ma rclxs0.gif

a. running IRR (gives since dawn of time)
VS
b. rolling 12-months (gives latest)
VS
c. running (median or 50th percentile, lower 10th percentiles, higher 90th percentiles) %pa leh?
thus, can compare consistency, this run how good/bad & whether to zoom into what did/didn't do ma

<from an** retentive fler> to each his own notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Oct 6 2016, 02:49 PM
MUM
post Oct 6 2016, 03:01 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,927 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 6 2016, 02:39 PM)
If like that my IRR >10% lor whistling.gif

Buat apa nak tipu sendiri? Past failure is part of your history, self-denial won't do u much benefit.

That is why I have both IRR and rolling 12-months returns to keep track my investment performance.
*
If assuming i have a "solid/good" portfolio...but due to the mkts...it just did not performed as per "usual"...thus it may not be a good measures of my portfolio composition.....
Will be "beating" a benchmark like FSM portfolio be better? Is that a good/ better measurement?

This post has been edited by MUM: Oct 6 2016, 03:07 PM
CharBoo
post Oct 6 2016, 03:04 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
106 posts

Joined: Sep 2016
QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 6 2016, 02:19 PM)
thanks for replying...
i think Vanguard does not mean to seek answers to those questions....literally...

this Vanguard is well versed in those things....
*
Haha. My bad. Sorry mr vanguard. Im new here.
David3700
post Oct 6 2016, 03:09 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,055 posts

Joined: Nov 2015
QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 6 2016, 02:35 PM)
Where do you keep your "reserve" ? Do you keep them in the banks, or you keep them as fixed income funds and switch over from time to time ?
*
In banks, maybe CMF also a good option.
SUSPink Spider
post Oct 6 2016, 03:16 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2016, 03:01 PM)
If assuming i have a "solid/good" portfolio...but due to the mkts...it just did not performed as per "usual"...thus it may not be a good measures of my portfolio composition.....
Will be "beating" a benchmark like FSM portfolio be better? Is that a good/ better measurement?
*
That's why I said...

I went thru storms of 2008/09 and 2010/11...
Started off being overly gung-ho and bought into some very aggressive sector-specific funds (banks & properties, 2 worst affected sectors during 2008/09)...no proper diversification at all...
Sold off and went cash during storm of 2010/11...when holding on would be a better move...
And my IRR managed to beat EPF (latest IRR: 7%). Why should I complain? icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 6 2016, 03:19 PM
Avangelice
post Oct 6 2016, 03:30 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


QUOTE(David3700 @ Oct 6 2016, 03:09 PM)
In banks, maybe CMF also a good option.
*
Maybe this article would help you. I learnt something today from your short conversation.

https://www.thebalance.com/short-term-bonds...et-funds-416961

if you want to maximize your potential and balance your portfolio's volality you invest into fixed income funds?

if you want the most stable fund while parking your funds to buy into funds in the future you get CMF?

am I correct?
MUM
post Oct 6 2016, 03:35 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,927 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

Depending of what FI fund......for some FI funds has the volatility ratio as high as some Eq funds.....having that in the portfolio may add to the portfolio volatlilitty
Avangelice
post Oct 6 2016, 03:44 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2016, 03:35 PM)
Depending of what FI fund......for some FI funds has the volatility ratio as high as some Eq funds.....having that in the portfolio may add to the portfolio volatlilitty
*
so I have seen when I wrongly invested in the rhb Asian total return fund which has a high volatility even as it is considered as a fixed income fund. I right the wrong switching it to libra anita.

that said I read on the benefits of CMF in fundsupermart. how many of the investors here are currently using it to instantly purchase their unit trusts?
AIYH
post Oct 6 2016, 03:51 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,166 posts

Joined: Jul 2016
QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 6 2016, 03:44 PM)
so I have seen when I wrongly invested in the rhb Asian total return fund which has a high volatility even as it is considered as a fixed income fund. I right the wrong switching it to libra anita.

that said I read on the benefits of CMF in fundsupermart.  how many of the investors here are currently using it to instantly purchase their unit trusts?
*
I usually fpx the amount into CMF monthly prior to the RSP date, is convenient compared to filling several direct debit form laugh.gif
Avangelice
post Oct 6 2016, 03:54 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 6 2016, 03:51 PM)
I usually fpx the amount into CMF monthly prior to the RSP date, is convenient compared to filling several direct debit form  laugh.gif
*
but in my case I fpx through Maybank2u which has been alwaus a quick tap or two. so I am still thinking why the need CMF
SUSPink Spider
post Oct 6 2016, 03:56 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 6 2016, 03:44 PM)
so I have seen when I wrongly invested in the rhb Asian total return fund which has a high volatility even as it is considered as a fixed income fund. I right the wrong switching it to libra anita.

that said I read on the benefits of CMF in fundsupermart.  how many of the investors here are currently using it to instantly purchase their unit trusts?
*
Contrary to your experience, this fund is the BEST performer in my portfolio.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 6 2016, 03:56 PM
kimyee73
post Oct 6 2016, 04:03 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,007 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: island up north


QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 6 2016, 03:44 PM)
so I have seen when I wrongly invested in the rhb Asian total return fund which has a high volatility even as it is considered as a fixed income fund. I right the wrong switching it to libra anita.

that said I read on the benefits of CMF in fundsupermart.  how many of the investors here are currently using it to instantly purchase their unit trusts?
*
I keep 1 year of expense in CMF, can use to instantly purchase funds.
Avangelice
post Oct 6 2016, 04:10 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Oct 6 2016, 04:03 PM)
I keep 1 year of expense in CMF, can use to instantly purchase funds.
*
instant as in 2pm purchase and tomorrow it shows up in your portfolio rather than me waiting almost a week for it to move from pending transactions to my portfolio.

pink spider my goal to invest into a fixed income is the beauty of its low risk and steady returns abeit a measly one. I rather feed my hunger via equities and BF. Regards brother
David3700
post Oct 6 2016, 04:10 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,055 posts

Joined: Nov 2015
QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 6 2016, 03:54 PM)
but in my case I fpx through Maybank2u which has been alwaus a quick tap or two. so I am still thinking why the need CMF
*
Seems like CMF interest is quite attractive....but I have not try yet biggrin.gif . Still using fpx
puchongite
post Oct 6 2016, 04:15 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
33,675 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 6 2016, 03:56 PM)
Contrary to your experience, this fund is the BEST performer in my portfolio.
*
Sorry you mean RHB Asian total return is the best performer in your portfolio ? I just want to make sure I got it without ambiguity.
Avangelice
post Oct 6 2016, 04:18 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,272 posts

Joined: Jun 2008


QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 6 2016, 04:15 PM)
Sorry you mean RHB Asian total return is the best performer in your portfolio ? I just want to make sure I got it without ambiguity.
*
if he is saying it is the best performing Fixed Income fund then I would believe so. before I traded it it was giving a good 8% in roi

QUOTE(David3700 @ Oct 6 2016, 04:10 PM)
Seems like CMF interest is quite attractive....but I have not try yet  biggrin.gif . Still using fpx
*
looks like I need to do more research but if it's true the instant purchase then I have been bought.

This post has been edited by Avangelice: Oct 6 2016, 04:19 PM
AIYH
post Oct 6 2016, 04:22 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,166 posts

Joined: Jul 2016
QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 6 2016, 03:54 PM)
but in my case I fpx through Maybank2u which has been alwaus a quick tap or two. so I am still thinking why the need CMF
*
If you do regular top up instead of RSP, fpx won't differ much compare to CMF

However fpx do need 1-2 hours to reach FSM

There was one time when I do fpx to libra asnita around 13:50 but they only received the fund on 15:10 and processed on next working day instead of the same day sad.gif

Have not tried invest to others using CMF, as I normally use CMF as a bridge for RSP, but seems instant to me biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by AIYH: Oct 6 2016, 04:23 PM
SUSPink Spider
post Oct 6 2016, 04:32 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 6 2016, 04:15 PM)
Sorry you mean RHB Asian total return is the best performer in your portfolio ? I just want to make sure I got it without ambiguity.
*
Yes, I getting >10% IRR from my investment in this fund.
puchongite
post Oct 6 2016, 04:43 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
33,675 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 6 2016, 04:22 PM)
If you do regular top up instead of RSP, fpx won't differ much compare to CMF

However fpx do need 1-2 hours to reach FSM

There was one time when I do fpx to libra asnita around 13:50 but they only received the fund on 15:10 and processed on next working day instead of the same day  sad.gif

Have not tried invest to others using CMF, as I normally use CMF as a bridge for RSP, but seems instant to me  biggrin.gif
*
That's quite terrible. FPX is supposed to be instant, no ? The time of transaction should be whatever time recorded in fpx. shocking.gif
AIYH
post Oct 6 2016, 04:54 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,166 posts

Joined: Jul 2016
QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 6 2016, 04:43 PM)
That's quite terrible. FPX is supposed to be instant, no ? The time of transaction should be whatever time recorded in fpx.  shocking.gif
*
It suppose to be, but normally when I perform fpx, the time I got from fsm order confirmation email, fpx transaction email and fsm payment receipt email are different.

In total they usually gap 1-2 hours, which kinda be a problem if I transact via fpx near the cut off time.

So I usually perform it early in the morning biggrin.gif

100 Pages « < 54 55 56 57 58 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0294sec    0.49    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 12th December 2025 - 06:14 AM