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post Oct 10 2019, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 8 2019, 08:01 PM)
Can u test if it can pass thru lossless audio?
I m sure it can do dd, dts core.... can it do dtshdma, ddtruehd, even atmos, dtsx?
With auto frame switching?
With kodi player, i mean.
And astro go, boleh?

I m still looking for one.
Now using cheap tx3max which can do but not too smooth with big size videos.

So blardy hard to find one like that <rm400.
I dun care about netflix hd or rs232...
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Sure.. I'll endeavor to do all the HD audio testing I can.. As for DTS:X testing, me seeking an AVR to confirm it myself, else Beelink's word would have to do. You in KV area & got ATMOS & or DTS:X capable system? I don't mind dropping by with it.. tongue.gif ..Nevertheless, the GT-King Pro should support Dolby TrueHD/ATMOS, THX & DTS:X, cuz it's already confirmed that the normal GT-King does (well, I'm not sure on the DTS:X 7.1. yet)..but definitely ATMOS & THX, etc.. Besides, the SoC bump, audio superiority is the major marketing factor here... According to Beelink, The Pro supports DTS listen + Dolby Audio decoding technology. Two dedicated processors (ESS Hi-Fi decoding chips) will provide Hi-Fi sound without loss of sound quality.

I expect it to be rooted and so stable Astro Go would be a no no with stock settings. Unless the needed is done. Fingers crossed, Beelink included an Advanced Root switch this time. In the meantime, i also expect the beta app should still work fine on it. Given the proven performance of the "weaker" GT-King, I would be surprised if the HW bump to S922X-H won't perform at minimum, similarly. It'd be great for gaming too. Rest assured, I'll pit both Pro & normal against each other.

Haha.. Folks like us obvioulsy wouldn't be bothered about Netflix HD+, etc... That's what dem smart TV apps are for.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 9 2019, 09:22 AM)
Ugoos AM6 Pro vs AM6 vs GT King.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3IwY75d-Qg
AM6 pro able to do atmos, dtsx; has "enable" dolby vision.
Nice to see new boxes paying more attention to audio.

This Ugoos AM6 seem very similar to GT King.. both using AML S922x.
AM6 Pro comparable to GT King Pro?
Prices are at same level.
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Comparable somewhat but the GT-King Pro stays ahead with better HW..We'll see how it's software side holds up... on the GT-King, there are options to enable and disable Dolby Vision too. I expect the Pro to have it too and it better work. HW differences btw the AM6 Pro vs GT-King Pro includes;
*S922X vs S922X-H
*32GB vs 64GB eMMC storage
*1 vs 3 USB 3.0 ports
*4K@60FPS vs 4K@75FPS
*Widevine L3 vs L1 (expected)

According to the YouTube video above..Benchmarks-wise, the AM6 > AM6 Pro (prolly cuz lower clocked CPU..2.2 to 1.8) > GT King. Hmm.. As for auto frame rate switching etc.. Hopefully that's fixed right out of the box, else might have to install & configure the AFRd app on the GT-King Pro as well, pending a fw update that does it for good.

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post Oct 10 2019, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 10 2019, 01:32 PM)
Sure.. I'll endeavor to do all the HD audio testing I can.. As for DTS:X testing, me seeking an AVR to confirm it myself, else Beelink's word would have to do. You in KV area & got ATMOS & or DTS:X capable system? I don't mind dropping by with it.. tongue.gif ..Nevertheless, the GT-King Pro should support Dolby TrueHD/ATMOS, THX & DTS:X, cuz it's already confirmed that the normal GT-King does (well, I'm not sure on the DTS:X 7.1. yet)..but definitely ATMOS & THX, etc.. Besides, the SoC bump, audio superiority is the major marketing factor here... According to Beelink, The Pro supports DTS listen + Dolby Audio decoding technology. Two dedicated processors (ESS Hi-Fi decoding chips) will provide Hi-Fi sound without loss of sound quality.

I expect it to be rooted and so stable Astro Go would be a no no with stock settings. Unless the needed is done. Fingers crossed, Beelink included an Advanced Root switch this time. In the meantime, i also expect the beta app should still work fine on it. Given the proven performance of the "weaker" GT-King, I would be surprised if the HW bump to S922X-H won't perform at minimum, similarly. It'd be great for gaming too. Rest assured, I'll pit both Pro & normal against each other.

Haha.. Folks like us obvioulsy wouldn't be bothered about Netflix HD+, etc... That's what dem smart TV apps are for.
Comparable somewhat but the GT-King Pro stays ahead with better HW..We'll see how it's software side holds up... on the GT-King, there are options to enable and disable Dolby Vision too. I expect the Pro to have it too and it better work. HW differences btw the AM6 Pro vs GT-King Pro includes;
*S922X vs S922X-H
*32GB vs 64GB eMMC storage
*1 vs 3 USB 3.0 ports
*4K@60FPS vs 4K@75FPS
*Widevine L3 vs L1 (expected)

According to the YouTube video above..Benchmarks-wise, the AM6 > AM6 Pro (prolly cuz lower clocked CPU..2.2 to 1.8) > GT King. Hmm.. As for auto frame rate switching etc.. Hopefully that's fixed right out of the box, else might have to install & configure the AFRd app on the GT-King Pro as well, pending a fw update that does it for good.
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"Beelink GT-King Pro Hi-Fi Lossless Sound" is reassuring.
i wud think if they are licensed for dolby and dts, the hd bits will also work.
if the various audio options appear in the settings like the am6/pro, it should be OK.
no, i only have AVRs for dtshdma/truehd... not atmos/dtsx... yet. biggrin.gif
thanks for checking as much as u can.

one thing these x922x boxes... price range $140-150, not low anymore.
comparable to the himedias and minixes.
there's is also minix u22-xj coming next month or so.
himedia nothing visible, except the delayed q100 which is not exciting.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2019, 02:18 PM)
"Beelink GT-King Pro Hi-Fi Lossless Sound" is reassuring.
i wud think if they are licensed for dolby and dts, the hd bits will also work.
if the various audio options appear in the settings like the am6/pro, it should be OK.
no, i only have AVRs for dtshdma/truehd... not atmos/dtsx... yet. biggrin.gif
thanks for checking as much as u can.

one thing these x922x boxes... price range $140-150, not low anymore.
comparable to the himedias and minixes.
there's is also minix u22-xj coming next month or so.
himedia nothing visible, except the delayed q100 which is not exciting.
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I read that the dolby and dts audio addition is for local decoding. If it is a passthrough to other decoding devices, those are not even necessary.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 10 2019, 04:24 PM)
I read that the dolby and dts audio addition is for local decoding. If it is a passthrough to other decoding devices, those are not even necessary.
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it's not so straightforward.

if it is, i wouldn't need to hunt for the right box.

typically, any box incl cheap ones can pass thru core dd/dts with native, kodi or mx player... but not the rest of the audio.

boxes able to pass thru lossless, hd audio are typically the more expensive ones - himedia, minix, shieldtv, egreat, zidoo...

the reason for this is cheap box makers focus on online video streaming only, do not see the need to do more for local playback audio.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2019, 04:51 PM)
it's not so straightforward.

if it is, i wouldn't need to hunt for the right box.

typically, any box incl cheap ones can pass thru core dd/dts with native, kodi or mx player... but not the rest of the audio.

boxes able to pass thru lossless, hd audio are typically the more expensive ones - himedia, minix, shieldtv, egreat, zidoo...

the reason for this is cheap box makers focus on online video streaming only, do not see the need to do more for local playback audio.
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https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/09/24/bee...y-dts-licenses/

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As I understand it, DTS and Dolby licenses are only needed if the system processes the audio stream, for instance, if downmixing a DTS-HD or Dolby-HD audio stream to stereo. But if you intend to use HDMI pass-through, the licenses are not needed since audio processing will be handled by your A/V receiver for which you’ve already paid such licenses. If you miss those licenses and try to watch a video with Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master or other higher-end codecs, many apps will not output audio at all.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 10 2019, 04:53 PM)
yep, i read that and posted that somewhere too.

the statement is incomplete and not entirely true.
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I bought a Beelink gt king tv box 6 months ago
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post Oct 25 2019, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 10 2019, 04:53 PM)
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 10 2019, 04:59 PM)
yep, i read that and posted that somewhere too.

the statement is incomplete and not entirely true.
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Yup.. AVFAN is right.. Decoding and or pass-through goes beyond just having a compatible AVR. Software (Box's) plays an important part too.. Else, as he mentioned earlier.. Folks wouldn't simply spend so much to buy devices like the Nvidia Shield or the recently released GT-King Pro.

Speaking of the Beelink GT-King Pro...my review is up...Do check it out and I'm open to further testing and or clarifications. smile.gif

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post Nov 9 2019, 10:33 PM

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Await the day Voncrane to have his own YouTube review. Some comparisons against the new Shield



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post Nov 10 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Nov 9 2019, 10:33 PM)
Await the day Voncrane to have his own YouTube review. Some comparisons against the new Shield


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Haha... You and I both.. Been mulling over it.. Time & entry cost.. sweat.gif .. It's on the table no doubt. See future how.. thumbsup.gif

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Watched the review and was pleasantly surprised at the differences in PQ output vs the Nvidia Shield. IMO, the PQ from the GT-King Pro looks better. Especially being OOTD with little to no fine PQ settings to tweak. Unlike the Shield, I'm going to assume that the Shield too can be tweaked to look better.

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I was also able to get the latest Antutu version to install and complete it's tests on the GT-King Pro.. Chigz probably didn't install the accompanying Antutu 3D package and grant that data access first, before running the benchmark test. From my review, and the images above, we can see that the GT-King Pro scored 147479 on the Antutu benchmark test. This indicates (also mirrors my earlier conclusion) that the Beelink GT-King Pro belongs to the 3rd or at most, the fourth spot on his chart. Though outside the Nvidia Shield offerings, it's indeed the second best TV box currently available for purchase. So I'll stand by that. smile.gif

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 10 2019, 02:55 PM)
Watched the review and was pleasantly surprised at the differences in PQ output vs the Nvidia Shield. IMO, the PQ from the GT-King Pro looks better. Especially being OOTD with little to no fine PQ settings to tweak. Unlike the Shield, I'm going to assume that the Shield too can be tweaked to look better.

I was also able to get the latest Antutu version to install and complete it's tests on the GT-King Pro.. Chigz probably didn't install the accompanying Antutu 3D package and grant that data access first, before running the benchmark test. From my review, and the images below, we can see that the GT-King Pro scored 147479 on the Antutu benchmark test. This indicates (also mirrors my earlier conclusion) that the Beelink GT-King Pro belongs to the 3rd or at most, the fourth spot on his chart. Though outside the Nvidia Shield offerings, it's indeed the second best TV box currently available for purchase. So I'll stand by that.  smile.gif
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I find the diff in PQ hard to believe... more so when a dozen other reviews have raved bigtime abiut shieldpro's new AI upscaling feature.

Personally, i prefer TV Box Stop reviews... and it usually covers the audio capabilities. Others simply ignore audio!
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Voncrane about the video you could perhaps use voice alteration software.. What's important is 2 things...
A detailed review which must be interesting and different fro the main reviewers & perhaps opportunities of passive income though part time. Who knows what positive things might come out from this... I'll be sure to subscribe to your YouTube channels!

P/S: Maybe tag team with Avfan for the video as the first tag team review

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Guys.. imma using GT1 mini A

new update android 9 can play Astro OTG and unifi?
me kinda noob.. update OTA or using USB? any tutorial that can helps me?

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QUOTE(aezad87 @ Nov 20 2019, 09:51 PM)
Guys.. imma using GT1 mini A

new update android 9 can play Astro OTG and unifi?
me kinda noob.. update OTA or using USB? any tutorial that can helps me?
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The post above yours is the ROM created by third party, not the ROM released by manufacturer. The instructions of use are already given in the link. You did not read ?

Or you are referring to other ROMs ?
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DEL

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 21 2019, 08:04 AM)
The post above yours is the ROM created by third party, not the ROM released by manufacturer. The instructions of use are already given in the link. You did not read ?

Or you are referring to other ROMs ?
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i am referring to update that voncrane have shared before.
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post Nov 28 2019, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(aezad87 @ Nov 20 2019, 09:51 PM)
Guys.. imma using GT1 mini A

new update android 9 can play Astro OTG and unifi?
me kinda noob.. update OTA or using USB? any tutorial that can helps me?
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QUOTE(aezad87 @ Nov 21 2019, 08:59 PM)
i am referring to update that voncrane have shared before.
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Hi... Excuse the delay... ROM updating method will depend on the currently installed FW on the device. If it's one that supports OTA, then by all means, go through that as it's the easiest method to follow for beginners.. Then there’s the flashing via SD card method (Copy files to SD card, boot up system and choose "Update" app..) A plus of the OTA method is that it will endeavor to retain the bulk of your settings and all already installed apps + their data. However, for a cleaner FW update? Say you want to get rid of past bugs and or just want a clean slate with the new ROM? Then, flash it using the USB method (requires flash tool and a Windows PC (typically)...Launch the flashing tool, load up FW in flashing tool, hit Start and plug in power & USB to the box..Tool should begin flashing..Wait till 100% success message is flashed.. You can unplug all and reboot into the flashed ROM). This method (done right) is "risk-free" too and should completely erase the previous ROM with the one being flashed (Yup, most times, you can safely flash older FWs), etc and install as new. You'll have to re-setup your box and install apps etc... So you decide which is for you..

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The GT King series now supports a dual system plan. Both the Regular and the Pro versions now support dual-booting Android & CoreELEC. CoreELEC for the uninitiated is a ‘Just enough OS’ Linux distribution based on Kodi technology for popular AMLogic hardware. There's a stable (Latest version being CoreELEC 9.2.0) and nightly versions. Beelink in the past reached out the the CoreELEC dev team and have been working in-depth behind the scenes for compatibility. The time is here and the GT-King series are officially supported by the CoreELEC dev team. Promises have been made to have more Beelink products adapted to this dual-booting system. I'll update as time goes on, which devices become supported.

CoreELEC Pre-Installed
In order to thank users for their support for our products..An 8GB SD/TF card with CoreELEC system pre-installed will ship with future sold units of the GT-King series... So one only has to insert the SD/TF card in our GT-King series products. The CoreELEC system can be used immediately with minimal fuss. Take note, I'm unsure how long this free and pre-installed SD/TF card deal will continue. So interested parties should grab it while they can.

Switch freely between OSes
Being a dual-booting system, it's important to note that switching between both OSes is made even simpler. This is to aid users to switch freely between the Android AOSP system and the CoreELEC system. Just press and hold the power off button of the remote control, and the System switch option will appear as shown in the figure below. Select this option and confirm, the machine will restart into the CoreELEC system located in the SD/TF card.

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As time goes one, we will endeavor to adapt this feature to more devices. If there's a model you'd like to see such on, you can also contact us. We will try to contact the corresponding developers to adapt it for the products.

How to use the dual OS system.
Booting into CoreELEC
Create yours or insert the supplied SD/TF card into the card slot, connect the power and turn on the machine. The CoreELEC system will boot up automatically. From this, we can deduce that as long as the SD/TF card is inserted, the first/default boot option is CoreELEC.

Stock Android to CoreELEC
So you are already booted into Android and would like to switch to CoreELEC. Just insert the pre-loaded card.. Press and hold the power off button on the remote control.. Select the "System switch option", and allow the system to restart into CoreELEC OS.
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CoreELEC to Android
In this instance, one already booted the CoreELEC OS and would like to switch over to the Android OS. Simply select the "Reboot from to eMMC/NAND" option from the Power menu. The system will reboot into Android automatically.
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Alternatively, launch the main menu, enter the exit option, select the "Reboot from NAND" option. This should initiate a restart and boot into the Android AOSP system.

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Updating the CoreELEC OS
Firstly download the incremental package file. Then copy this downloaded file to the /storage/.update folder on the device. Restarting the device will initiate the update. Bare in mind that on the STABLE version can be automatically updated in the system. The nightly version involves manually updating the core files.

CoreELEC official website
For more information, please pay attention to Beelink's official website

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 28 2019, 02:39 AM)
Hi... Excuse the delay... ROM updating method will depend on the currently installed FW on the device. If it's one that supports OTA, then by all means, go through that as it's the easiest method to follow for beginners (Copy files to SD card, boot up system and choose "Update" app..) Plus the method will endeavor to retain the bulk of your settings and all already installed apps + their data. However, for a cleaner FW update? Say you want to get rid of past bugs and or just want a clean slate with the new ROM? Then, flash it using the USB method (requires flash tool and a Windows PC (typically)...Power of the box, load up FW in flashing tool, hit Start and plug in power & USB to the box..Tool should begin flashing..Wait till 100% success message is flashed.. You can unplug all and reboot into the flashed ROM). This method (done right) is "risk-free" too and should completely erase the previous ROM with the one being flashed (Yup, most times, you can safely flash older FWs), etc and install as new. You'll have to re-setup your box and install apps etc... So you decide which is for you..
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Thanks bro.. Will do it with caution. plus i have email beelink service about the Netflix network problem. What the have guide is almost the same as you..


Thanks again.

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