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MrFarmer
post Oct 31 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Oct 31 2011, 11:00 AM)
Hello People,

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post Oct 31 2011, 02:20 PM

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Having a problem with just one of my Lady's Finger. Trying to find out what's wrong.
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Some sort of bark disease?
Michael J.
post Nov 1 2011, 12:15 PM

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Mr Farmer:

Haaa... It's a dilemma.

This is an effect of high fertility in the soil. There's a lot of nutrients, a lot of water, but the plant outer layer just can't cope with the rapid growth of the inner cells, which results in "bursting", aka split stem. You know in expecting women, they get stretch marks as the pregnancy progresses right? Something like that.
TSParaOpticaL
post Nov 1 2011, 05:19 PM

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wow...that a wonderful thing to have. High Fertility meaning can reduce nutrient giving for some time
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post Nov 1 2011, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 1 2011, 12:15 PM)
Mr Farmer:

Haaa... It's a dilemma.

This is an effect of high fertility in the soil. There's a lot of nutrients, a lot of water, but the plant outer layer just can't cope with the rapid growth of the inner cells, which results in "bursting", aka split stem. You know in expecting women, they get stretch marks as the pregnancy progresses right? Something like that.
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blush.gif Must be me, always thinking of of malnutrition. Actually my helpers had fertilized it with fruiting fertilizer. I requested them to spray foliar fruit enhancer. Then got some trees I curi curi put chicken dung. biggrin.gif Too enthusiastic, and got carried away.

Maybe we can call this the "Malnutrition syndrome" biggrin.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:54 PM

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its normal bro, sometimes i also keep asking my people got put fertilizer & enough or not ?

haha like in panic mode. need some schedule of sort
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:13 PM

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Anyone here in the commercial broiler industry?

Mind to share how to dispose closed house broiler manure, which is mixed with wood shavings? Or any other suggestions to recycle it with proven feasibility and demands?

My farm is producing 30tonnes per cycle of this, and am facing some shortage in demand of it.

Previously, oil palm estate owners take it from us, but it was understood that they don't need it so often?
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post Nov 2 2011, 02:20 PM

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Hi Bump:

Maybe it could be useful if you first stated where your broiler farm is located, so at least we would have some general sense of direction.
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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 2 2011, 02:20 PM)
Hi Bump:

Maybe it could be useful if you first stated where your broiler farm is located, so at least we would have some general sense of direction.
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MrFarmer
post Nov 6 2011, 06:41 PM

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Moringa
Got an email about Moringa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moringa
Some claims that it's a miracle tree.
In India & Africa, there are plantation just for Moringa, like our rubber /oil palm plantation.

Just to share.

kianwei8
post Nov 8 2011, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Sep 12 2011, 09:12 AM)
kianwei:

Maybe you could list some of the symptoms?

I'd also look at the soil moisture. Palms look dehydrated. Can't determine properly from photos, but seems like some palms have quite a lot of rolled-leaves symptoms. This could be due to boron deficiency, or it could just be due to soil compactness and water table issue. Found any "blind-tips" on the young leaves? Or "crinkled-leaves" that look like zig-zag shapes?

Can't see the older leaves properly, however does seem to have some chlorosis, so Magnesium deficiency could be present. I would be a little hessitant to say the same about zinc deficiency; no harm adding a little zinc now and then though. Would help palms grow better, and produce better bunches. Copper deficiency is also a question mark, so I would like to know if the palms were already characteristically limpy like in the picture, or was this a more recent development. Copper deficiency could also somewhat explain the rolled-leaves I see in some pictures.

Overall, I believe you're on the right track in your recommendation lar. Place looks very familiar. Which part of Hutan Melintang is this? Towards the river end?
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Sorry for late Reply M.J

ya, the plant show multi- Symptoms of mineral Deficiency, Owner have put fertilizer low in K previously. Place near to Sg. Tiang, beside hv a river end to Sea
palm was show the character about 6mth ,some even longer. will arrange another site visit soon for follow up
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Sg Tiang area ah? Ah... Then add one more: Salt water intrusion. The CEC of the soil is likely to be messed up, that's why so many symptoms associated with mineral deficiency. If you have the opportunity, go to NALFIN near hutan melintang-bagan datoh there, and look for Rajendran, the plant breeder/agronomist there. Talk to him about this issue. They had some problems with saltwater intrusion from the Bernam River, and large tracks of palm plantings had been affected. I believe they've somewhat rectified the problem now.
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post Nov 8 2011, 07:44 PM

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These few days had been in my sifu's farm in Raub.

a) Something i learned, If You Are Able To Have Similar Quantity Output With Less Trees Why Be Kiasu and OverCrowd your farm.

b) Pruning is one of the essential things in Farm Care. biggrin.gif


Mr Farmer : when are you coming back to KL ? Yum Cha
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post Nov 8 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Oct 31 2011, 11:00 AM)
Hello People,

we are proud to inform that a bunch of us (you guys know who you are) had just finished publishing an Agri & Aqua Culturing Newsletter.

its available for download for FREE

Download Our Newsletter Here !!!

We hope this will be the First Issue of Many More to Come biggrin.gif

Cheers and Download away.

Thanks

ParaOptical aka Johnny
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Great Publication..!!! I am also very interested in farming but now still dun have the knowledge and the money to start.. maybe after few years i can join u guys for more chatting... =))
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post Nov 8 2011, 10:19 PM

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Bro,

thank you

Both Knowledge & $$$ you need to acquire before jump into this. 1 wrong move can wipe you out that's the pitfall

QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Nov 8 2011, 08:57 PM)
Great Publication..!!! I am also very interested in farming but now still dun have the knowledge and the money to start.. maybe after few years i can join u guys for more chatting... =))
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post Nov 8 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 8 2011, 08:31 AM)
Sg Tiang area ah? Ah... Then add one more: Salt water intrusion. The CEC of the soil is likely to be messed up, that's why so many symptoms associated with mineral deficiency. If you have the opportunity, go to NALFIN near hutan melintang-bagan datoh there, and look for Rajendran, the plant breeder/agronomist there. Talk to him about this issue. They had some problems with saltwater intrusion from the Bernam River, and large tracks of palm plantings had been affected. I believe they've somewhat rectified the problem now.
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MJ , u are right!! The owner said the sea water once flood the land long time ago
NALFIN is ?


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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 8 2011, 08:31 AM)
Sg Tiang area ah? Ah... Then add one more: Salt water intrusion. The CEC of the soil is likely to be messed up, that's why so many symptoms associated with mineral deficiency. If you have the opportunity, go to NALFIN near hutan melintang-bagan datoh there, and look for Rajendran, the plant breeder/agronomist there. Talk to him about this issue. They had some problems with saltwater intrusion from the Bernam River, and large tracks of palm plantings had been affected. I believe they've somewhat rectified the problem now.
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MJ , u are right!! The owner said the sea water once flood the land long time ago
NALFIN is ?

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MrFarmer
post Nov 9 2011, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Nov 8 2011, 07:44 PM)
These few days had been in my sifu's farm in Raub.

a) Something i learned, If You Are Able To Have Similar Quantity Output With Less Trees Why Be Kiasu and OverCrowd your farm.

b) Pruning is one of the essential things in Farm Care. biggrin.gif
Mr Farmer : when are you coming back to KL ? Yum Cha
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Oh yes, pruning is essential, we even cut off some fruits. It depends on whether you are targeting for big fruits or just quantity (Market requirement).

Para, won't be back until CNY. Have to look after farm now as my operation partner suddenly pull off (1st Oct) citing retirement. He actually went to JV with new partners planting Castor, as I wanted to wait & see before proceeding. Anyway, wish him best of luck. It's also a great opportunity to start taking care of the farm. May have to look for new partner / s, who can spend passionate time to improve the farm.
Sure, shall call you Yam Cha when back.

By the way, just tested an automatic sprinkler today. The sprinkler does not come with any specification, just green colored nozzle. Have to work out how many sprinkler can our pump (gasoline 4.5 hp) run.


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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Nov 8 2011, 08:57 PM)
Great Publication..!!! I am also very interested in farming but now still dun have the knowledge and the money to start.. maybe after few years i can join u guys for more chatting... =))
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My opinion is to start farming is simple. Do it on a small scale. Can start planting at your own back garden for your own consumption. You can also play farming with any farm close to you. Talk with the operator, go and help out during your free time (can also find out if you really like farming before jumping in).

When you are more comfortable, then do it in a small scale 1, 2 or any small acreage.
Knowledge can be learned. There are lots of avenue.
As with any business, budgeting is very important, do have some (more) for reserve.

Agriculture is big business. Just spoke with a second generation farmer (can not call him a farmer anymore). Their family owns a 50 acres farm, out sourcing it to privateer farmers in small plots. They just collect the harvest and do wholesale. Their fleets consist of 1 X 5 tons & 5 X 1.5 tons lorry. The two sons running the operation on shift, the dad stay at kopitiam 'blow water' (blowing his horns) only.

A strong & passionate desire, full commitment, positive optimism & motivation with great patience do really helps nod.gif

Best of luck to you.

This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Nov 9 2011, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(kianwei8 @ Nov 8 2011, 11:00 PM)
MJ , u are right!! The owner said the sea water once flood the land long time ago
NALFIN is ?


Added on November 8, 2011, 11:01 pm

MJ , u are right!! The owner said the sea water once flood the land long time ago
NALFIN is ?
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NALFIN = National Land Finance Co-operative Society Limited

They are a company associated with MIC, and are involved with many businesses. One of them is oil palm cultivation and seed production. The breeder there, Rajendran, is a good friend of mine.

The thing about land reclaimed from the sea is that the surface may appear fine and dandy, but the groundwater is actually still saline. And it can stay saline for a very long time (i.e. millions of years). Eg like Australia, which was partly under the sea millions of year ago, and their aquifers are considerable saline, more so now. Such soil needs extra attention when managing it.

I would suggest that you also get involved with the agronomist and breeders group at LinkedIn. We're quite a chatty bunch, and some of the ideas these guys throw out are pretty interesting. Also, you get exposure to professionals outside of Malaysia, and gain their insights about world agriculture.
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Hi Para,
This is our play sprinkler. Bought it for $6.00 Guess it should work. Tested for a couple of days. At one time, the sprinkler stopped spinning, guess it might be something to do with the pressure. Am looking to install more later.
We are putting chicken dungs, fertilizer, fishes & EM (effective microbes) into the pool. Since we are pumping our water there, we figure this might help the plants to grow better.
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post Nov 17 2011, 09:38 PM

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If there are too many sprinkler heads and its quite high from the ground, could be mainly due to pressure. 1 way to solve it are to have stop valves. so as to maintain the pressure.





QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 12 2011, 08:35 PM)
Hi Para,
This is our play sprinkler. Bought it for $6.00 Guess it should work. Tested for a couple of days. At one time, the sprinkler stopped spinning, guess it might be something to do with the pressure. Am looking to install more later.
We are putting chicken dungs, fertilizer, fishes & EM (effective microbes) into the pool. Since we are pumping our water there, we figure this might help the plants to grow better.
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