rexis,Sep 27 2006, 10:16 AMLAND Clearing
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Cheap land for let: Rawang, RM300 monthly, sound nice, the cheapest you can get in newspaper post. Tamping, RM100 monthly, even better! Cheap, and somemore have guidance about how to do farming. Any cheaper you will have to go to kampung and ask the folks there.
Renting a land might not be the best solution, as the land is not yours so you cant do anything too permenant there(like planting trees). But it is still a solution for those who do not process a land and have constrain on resources.
Rental: pay 1 year rental RM300x12 = RM3600, you are usually recommended to get a cheaper deal in kampung area, around RM1000+ annually and 5 years contract is ideal.
Lands that is this cheap usually quite deserted and you likely be looking at a secondary jungle when you stare at your rented land. You will need to get someone to clear it, of course man power clearing is not impossible but it will take forever. Rent a bulldozer or something to clear it, and prepare it for farming.
Rawang: 5 acres land with man tall grasses and small trees: about RM2000 to clear, but I heard you will get much cheaper(1/2 price) deal back in Sabah by getting half a dozen of indon workers to do the clearing for you.
Remember, you are starting your own business now, so any business relation is money relation, you must plan your cash flow carefully, and try your best to get the best deal.
Land cleared, then you have to prepare your land for farming, the soil need to be turned over and left under sun light for a week or two. You can rent a tractor to do so, there are tractor car or hand tractor available, the later one is of smaller size and cheaper price. Estimated cost, put RM1500 as budget, including fuel and labour(you work yourself you still need to eat).
And then, plants needs water, you need to work out your irrigation system. You need a water pump and piping and water spray, and this assumed that you hv a river or well nearby. You can get people do it for you form RM8000 per acre(!) but if you are low on budget, a cheap water pump(but not too cheap, and able to run on fuel) RM2500, if you desire water storage RM750, and you diy all the piping works(get the black pipe) RM750 and put water taps to cover your land. Oh, also you will need water tube too for watering, RM500.
You will need to water your farm manually daily with hose but you will get cheaper startup. This could efficiently cover the entire 5 acres, only need extra manpower.
Okay, land, done, water, done, time to get the seeds! You can buy good hybrid seeds from seed dealers, get some agrimagazine and they usually have advertisement about seed dealers. Sometimes, good seeds are more expensive then gold! RM1500 is a very conservative price. You will have to decided which crop you need to plant too. Its likely you will need both short term crop and long term crop. while your fruit tree/oil palm/rubber growing up(a few years), make use the space to plant fast harvest crops like jagung, which you can harvest as soon as 60 days, which could suppliment your income.
And then, fertilizer, estimated RM60 each pack and you will need 20 packs for your land, about RM1200, get some extra stock? Make it RM2000. You will need to get both chemical fertilizer and organic fertilizer, they have both pros and cons, the first one is fast react but will harm the soil, the latter one you see the effect slowly, but beneficial to soil. So its like you use cheap organic fertilizer(like chicken shit) as base, and top up regularily(depends on whats your crops), and whenever you see your plant looks unhealthy and unhappy, use chemical fertilizer as an emergency resort. Each types of fertilizer have their uses. When time pass, you can learn how to make compost, zero cost home made organic fertilizer, they just need time to ferment.
Land, water, seed, fertilizer, all done. The next thing you need to plan out is human resource. It is recommended you need to put in yourself as the main workforce, and if possible you supervise your farm personally, remember, nobody will want to help you make money, so you gotta do it youself.
You might be able to carry out normal daily work like watering and fertilizing yourself, but when harvest time come, you will need to hire some part time to do your job, here are the choices, those without proper permit(illegal) workers might come cheaper, but you risk they being caught, you being sue, and your entire harvest being skrewed up, so its up to you to take the risk or not. But those will perper permit will bark for a higher pay. So you need to prepare like RM1000 monthly for each person during harvest season, lunch included, you might be able to source better deal thou. Dont forget you need the money to survive yourself until the harvest day.
Before harvest festival, you will need to find ways to distribute your harvest. Or risk letting your goodies rot in your storage. Advertise in newspaper($$), network around your supplier, ask around restaurant or hypermarket, or open up a stall in pasar pagi and sell yourself. Many times, it is recommended you find your own way to supply your harvest to consumer, if you depends on middle man to price your goodies, it is very dangerous - what if they dont want to take your harvest?
How much do we need here?
Starting cost
Rental: one year, RM1200
Prepare: clear: RM2000, perpare RM1500
irrigation: RM5500
seeds: RM1500
fertilizer: RM2000
Running cost
fuel: RM150 for water pump
yourself: RM1000
Running cost(harvest)
fuel: RM550 for water pump and your vehicle to fetch goods to pasar pagi, and looking for buyers
yourself: RM1000
labourer: RM800 (for one guy to handle a small piece -5 acres- of land)
above are conservative estimated cost, but at least you will know what you need to figure out.
edit added: I missed out the pesticide cost here, its not easy to do organic farming you see.
A few things to think about before you decide to farm» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Not DotA farming, but real life farming, it is not like an easy job as 1,2,3, and no mid game quitter(ignore the last line if you dont understand), since heavy start up investment involved, you cant just quit easily. Above and many thought that farming is all about green vegetation and fresh air. Remember, a park visitor and a park garderner is different. Also, it is not a park, its a farm, at least you will have to work your farm into a park or anything favourable, aka hard mindless labour work.
Firstly I mentioned about the land to let usually will have small jungle status. Dont forget, most of us grew up in the confort of concrete and we lived in city. Some of use saw cockroach also scream or jump like hell. So how willing are you to make a change to deal with the unfriendly wild vegetation? The man tall grasses, the dirty muddy soil, the disgusting insect pest on your crops, and without the hot shower.
You will have to suffer mosquito attacks, if you cover enough to repeal their bites, can you work in this way under hot sun? So you have to really decide and consider seriously before you missed the air con cool ventilation.
Oh, not only mosquitoes, you also got ants bite, leech suck, and dont be suprised you found a snake or giant spider nearby. If your land is even deeper in the isolated place, you might be dealing with wilder bigger animals like wild boar or even elephant....
How willing are you to work a labour job? Dealing with mud, planting, watering, fertilizing, and most importantly, you need to go all out to learn about all you need to know. If you are even lazy to do office work, how possible are you to work out your own farm?
Therefore, it is best to get a feel of it before you really venturing into agricultural sector. Try work in a farm(like our friend I quoted), work as a rubber tapper, or try to work as a labourer. If you have any relative doing farming, pay them a visit, otherwise, it is best to test your durability first(by switching your office job to a labour job) before you dump your life savings into it.
Of course, that is assume that you have limited resource, if your resource are plentiful and you can affort hiring other people to do all the jobs for you, thats fine. But still, you need to get a feel of running a farm too.
Planting mushroom or rearing snails is some example. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Mushrooms are grown in dark (sometimes air conditioned) mushroom hut, you will need a steamer to clear your raw material out of microbes to prevent infestation, and you will need to learn how to seed mushroom(not sure how). And there are many types of mushroom, being the easiest to plant are the abalone mushroom, the higher level one including monkey head mushroom, reishi, etc. And more importantly, you need to get a market for your products. Raw material to plant mushroom including rice husk, saw dust, shredded straw, etc.
You can market your mushroom to hypermarket or sell yourself in pasar pagi. Hypermarket will demand for constant bulk supply, your will need a bigger scale mushroom hut.
Snails rearing is also another option, not common, but as I mentioned about, you need to create a market for it. Rearing snails is fairly easy and relatively need less space for it - just dedicate a dark, moist, cool, ventilated room for the purpose and put multi-layer racks in it, the snails are kept in big plastic containers, and you can rear plenty of snails. I wont touch much on details about snail rearing here but you can find the information over the internet(try google snail farm, or look for local snail farm and learn from them). Snails eat a lot of things, and their food is cheap, you can always go to pasar pagi and ask the vege sellers for spoiled vegetables, they might be willing to give you a whole bucket free.
Snails can be cooked into a delicious dish in both chinese or western restaurant, normal housewife wont buy snails for dinner but you can try create the market. Another option is to rear them as pet - snails like golden apple snails are cute and beautiful in colour, you can deal with pet shop on this, or sell them in pasar malam, to make sure the pet snails are not eaten by your customer you will need to sell some aquariums to them as well

There are long term crops and short term crops. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
There are dedicated farms for both types but you are like going to need both of them.
Long term cash crops, like oil palm, rubber, or anything that can be used as raw material. Or long term food crops, like fruit trees: durian, rambutan, longan, etc. They required long term investment and time to grow up before you can enjoy your harvest. And also it is recommended to own a piece a land to plant long term crops, you wont be happy if you land lord decided to take back his/her land after your contract voids, because you wont be able to take away all your trees.
You can work out an oil palm land in your part time, if you can affort to hire someone to take care of your land, make this as a long term investment. Furthermore, you can still have your career if you dont want to dump your office job.
If you doing this full time you will have a lot of time waiting your baby trees to grow up, you can try to plant some short term crops. Like planting chilies among your baby oil palms. Because they wont take much space and you utilized your land more efficienly.
Short term crops including all kind of vegetables like chili, bitter cord, ladies fingers, as well as banana, sugar cane, sweet corn etc. They take relatively shorter time to harvest but can only harvest for a much shorter period or even once.
Seem like the idea of agribusiness has attracted a few people.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
I myself facing a problem that do not have enough modal and do not have land. Renting a land to farm is okay only if the land is cheap, sometimes it goes by some RM100 per acre per YEAR but the cheapest i could find in newspaper ads is RM300 per month. The land lord looks fishy too. Another one I found is from another agri magazine, RM100, but the land lord insist I breed kambing

Can approach the majlis perbandaran and request for agri land, according to what I read in newspaper last time, gov very encourage us to farm you see. But when I try to approach the gov department, the people there seem like dontwan to layan me, ask them for land, they will ask you back which land? You dunno which land how we help you? taaaaalk talllk talkkkk so much then only say can see this guy, in charge of where and is not in the office...

" So I guess you need PATIENCE and CONNECTION la if wanna ask help from gov in terms of requesting for agri land...
Help from gov in financial, technic is offered but I am not sure the details. You need to go to their department and ask, forget about email, gov dont use email >_<
Dont forget to tell me if anyone here are really carrying out some farm plan!
Yes, of course, I got all the agriworld magazine here, you want to breed talapia to kelisa also got, want tiger prawn to abalone also no problem. Which one? Aquaculture required more knowladge and more modal.
My CONSTRAINT» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
I am not sure about that. Capital always my constrain, as well as connection. As mentioned above, you have to either supervise your farm yourself or hire someone else to do it for you. Getting the right person is not easy. There are also many technical difficulties like for someone who never worked on more then 1 pot of soil, will be pretty helpless trying to clear a piece of land, get seedlings, fertilizer etc. Knowing the method is not enough, you gotta do it.
Whats more is before your harvest kicks in, you have to pay the running cost from your own purse. and if anything bad happened to your farm in the middle, like storm or flood, your harvest will be ruined.
Gov actually provide training for this, you might be able to get a clue from felda, whatever pertanian department, etc. I am lazy to trace back those information I once have.

Renting a land for agri is a way to go but not the best way, it is still better to have your own land. I was thinking of renting a 5 acres land to plant chili but yet travelling for 2 hours to reach my farm daily or weekly simply do not work out very nice. Plus the place is a bit isolated and deserted, it is not that beautiful unless you really spend some full time to work on it.
And then if you work out your farm nice nice the land lord might want to shark you in the 3rd year. "3 years contract, according to the market price on the 3rd year" really do not make me feel confortable, even thou it is a common pratice. hell, if he triple the rental on the 3rd year i can only cabut.
One good land rental for farming should be like 10 years contract with fixed rental.
That why its best to get your own piece of land.