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Michael J.
post Nov 18 2011, 08:18 AM

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Mr Farmer:

Sorry, can't see the picture, so I'm assuming it is a single pond.

For single ponds, I would not think placing manure and fertilizers as a good idea per se, as it would encourage algae growth, which will then clog the sprinkler system. Fish you may add, but keep bigger fish. When I was managing oil palm nurseries, we used to have a problem a problem with guppies (ikan longkang) clogging up the sprinklers. If you do want to do add stuff before watering, I would suggest you build a sump, which will act as a temporary collection point for water. You could use gravity to do the job. But this helps to ensure the water you apply is relatively free of clogging materials.

Para has made some very important points. Install stop valves, and manage the watering regime. I believe you already know how much HP your pump is and so what kind of water pressure to expect.

This might be a strange question, but what droplet size are your sprinklers? And what's the rate of release per hour?

This post has been edited by Michael J.: Nov 18 2011, 08:20 AM
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post Nov 18 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Nov 9 2011, 07:55 PM)


Added on November 9, 2011, 8:19 pm

My opinion is to start farming is simple. Do it on a small scale. Can start planting at your own back garden for your own consumption. You can also play farming with any farm close to you. Talk with the operator, go and help out during your free time (can also find out if you really like farming before jumping in).

When you are more comfortable, then do it in a small scale 1, 2 or any small acreage.
Knowledge can be learned. There are lots of avenue.
As with any business, budgeting is very important, do have some (more) for reserve.

Agriculture is big business. Just spoke with a second generation farmer (can not call him a farmer anymore). Their family owns a 50 acres farm, out sourcing it to privateer farmers in small plots. They just collect the harvest and do wholesale. Their fleets consist of 1 X 5 tons & 5 X 1.5 tons lorry. The two sons running the operation on shift, the dad stay at kopitiam 'blow water' (blowing his horns) only.

A strong & passionate desire, full commitment, positive optimism & motivation with great patience do really helps  nod.gif

Best of luck to you.
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hahaha.. luckily i knew a friend where his family is running a quite large plantation from vegetables to rubber estates.. plan to go learn from his father abit about agriculture first then only decide whether i have the will and interest to run this field.. hehe.. will keep watching this thread as well.. hehe..
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post Nov 18 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Nov 18 2011, 08:18 AM)
Mr Farmer:

Sorry, can't see the picture, so I'm assuming it is a single pond.

For single ponds, I would not think placing manure and fertilizers as a good idea per se, as it would encourage algae growth, which will then clog the sprinkler system. Fish you may add, but keep bigger fish. When I was managing oil palm nurseries, we used to have a problem a problem with guppies (ikan longkang) clogging up the sprinklers. If you do want to do add stuff before watering, I would suggest you build a sump, which will act as a temporary collection point for water. You could use gravity to do the job. But this helps to ensure the water you apply is relatively free of clogging materials.

Para has made some very important points. Install stop valves, and manage the watering regime. I believe you already know how much HP your pump is and so what kind of water pressure to expect.

This might be a strange question, but what droplet size are your sprinklers? And what's the rate of release per hour?
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Our pond is actually a small creek. As the water was too little during the dry season, we had dug into the creek and converted it to a pond. We had it done in stages, on the upper level a long pond and lower level is a small pond. We kind of lie built a small dam across it. The main long pond is also used as a reservoir as we pipe in some water via gravity feed. As it is rain season here, no problem now, but we were desperate for water last month. There are no clogging problem at the moment but shall see how to incorporate a sump of a screen intake filter.

As the pump is an old unit, we do not have much information about it.
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Just that 143 cc, 3.5hp engine. The consumption is quite heavy, may have to look for an alternative lower consumption engine, perhaps a diesel type. As the sprinkler also does not come with any specification, everything is based on guess work & trial. We already had stop valve install as we were using manual labor with garden hose (16mm flexible garden hose) attached to the main PP pipe.
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The green color coded sprinkler is listed as type 323, did not find any specs on the net. The nozzle side has a smaller water droplet size while the turning activator side has a bigger droplet size. These sprinkler is prone to pressure and water flow problem, both high and low. It has a window of workable pressure and water flow and it does not work above or below this window. The throw is about 20 ~ 25 ft diameter. We manage to fit 4 at the moment.
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We had installed a Butterfly type sprinkler. From the design, the operation window (pressure & flow rate) is much wider. The water droplet size is much fine, bigger than mist. The throw is much smaller, about 12 ~ 12 ft diameter. Shall be trying to install more points.
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post Nov 23 2011, 05:26 PM

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Saw a young, immature rubber tree drying off from the top.
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The leaves as well as the stem are drying up and dying.
The lower trunk seems to be good.
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What could be wrong? Just one of this all of the whole lot. Tree was still fine a month ago.
Cutting off the dried section, till the trunk is fresh with latex. Hope it shall grow again.
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post Nov 24 2011, 02:00 PM

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Mr farmer, you can experiment with the choice of fertilizers. Agarwood trees are fast growing trees.
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post Nov 24 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(teteret @ Nov 24 2011, 02:00 PM)
Mr farmer, you can experiment with the choice of fertilizers. Agarwood trees are fast growing trees.
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How about organic fertilizer
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Kenso, Cap Bunga, organic fertilizer, Super Green
http://www.kensocorp.com/index.php?cat_id=11&im=products
Super Green
13-7-8-2+TE+HA
Super Green incorporates both the benefits of chemical fertilizers and the advantages of organic. Superb combination to replace NPK Green

Functions: 2 In 1 Benefit Control Release Nutrient
Pellet 40kg/bag
quackpack
post Nov 30 2011, 08:49 PM

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Hi,

anybody got contacts for getting mushroom spawn or disposable petri dish?

thx in advance smile.gif
TSParaOpticaL
post Nov 30 2011, 09:19 PM

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Agri & Aqua Culturing Newsletter - December 2011 Issue

http://www.mediafire.com/?2j6vna2fvv87by9
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:00 PM

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Monsoon season is really giving me a headache.

lost about 10 nangka plants because of flooding...hopefully the mounding will decrease water logged areas....

how has the monsoon season affected your place ??


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post Dec 6 2011, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(quackpack @ Nov 30 2011, 08:49 PM)
Hi,

anybody got contacts for getting mushroom spawn or disposable petri dish?

thx in advance smile.gif
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Sure.

For spawn culture:

Mushroom Ambra Biotech Sdn Bhd
07-663 3322

Golden Nature Food Sdn Bhd
03-62751171


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post Dec 6 2011, 01:54 PM

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any1 interested in joint venture/investing/partnership 8acre land with 3 ponds in Perak. the whole piece will go at RM70k+. email me at fish4sale@live.com / sms at 014-6023201
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post Dec 6 2011, 07:33 PM

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can also try Jalur Salju Sdn Bhd @ Pajam


QUOTE(quackpack @ Nov 30 2011, 08:49 PM)
Hi,

anybody got contacts for getting mushroom spawn or disposable petri dish?

thx in advance smile.gif
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Michael J.
post Dec 6 2011, 08:38 PM

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Para:

Speaking of Jalur Salju, how did it go? You managed to meet Praba?


Added on December 6, 2011, 8:40 pmMr Farmer:

Just realized no one had replied your post on rubber saplings.

Looks to me like canker. Mild cases can be cured. How is it now, anyway?

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TSParaOpticaL
post Dec 7 2011, 10:49 PM

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MJ, didnt meet Praba as i believe he is based in KL

went direct to the nursery as it was 3 plots away from 1 of my land...and met the PIC Yoga. Nice chap...and coincident we stay quite near to each other in Cheras...lolx


They are selling at RM 2.00 for each plant about 2-3 months old. i dont know if its cheap or expensive as it seems there is a shortage around n9 area.

Hexagon is selling at RM 2.50




QUOTE(Michael J. @ Dec 6 2011, 08:38 PM)
Para:

Speaking of Jalur Salju, how did it go? You managed to meet Praba?


Added on December 6, 2011, 8:40 pmMr Farmer:

Just realized no one had replied your post on rubber saplings.

Looks to me like canker. Mild cases can be cured. How is it now, anyway?
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Michael J.
post Dec 8 2011, 09:29 AM

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Para:

It is close to that price. Hexagon's price is a little on the high side though; maybe due to certain unique traits. Did you check with them about it?

UP sells for RM1.80, but you need to go all the way to Perak to collect it yourself. If large quantities, maybe worth it lar.
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Dec 5 2011, 09:00 PM)
Monsoon season is really giving me a headache.

lost about 10 nangka plants because of flooding...hopefully the mounding will decrease water logged areas....

how has the monsoon season affected your place ??
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Oh yes, before these, we were worrying about shortage of water. Now we are worrying of too much water. We had some floods here, some of of chillies are drown, 2 beds for green vege too (but was harvested in time) and some Cavendish Banana. Lost (in $) isn't much, it's the hard work that was wasted. Luckily we did not plant much, close to the waterline of the creek.
Had to dig a drain to drain off some excess water.
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Dec 6 2011, 08:38 PM)
Mr Farmer:

Just realized no one had replied your post on rubber saplings.

Looks to me like canker. Mild cases can be cured. How is it now, anyway?
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Sorry, had not been able to find any leads. Have absolutely no idea what it is. Maybe shall have to wait till I go to Lembaga Getah's main office.
Since our "amputation" , last check 2 days ago, there had not been any changes, no signs of any new growth, but it does seems to looks even "dryer". Hope it'll get well soon.
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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Dec 8 2011, 09:29 AM)
Para:

It is close to that price. Hexagon's price is a little on the high side though; maybe due to certain unique traits. Did you check with them about it?

UP sells for RM1.80, but you need to go all the way to Perak to collect it yourself. If large quantities, maybe worth it lar.
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Sorry missed the topic. What plant is going for $1.80 to $2.50? Seems cheap. Here everything is expensive, but selling our produce is cheap .
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We had an outbreak of chilli disease here. Came with the rainy season. Affecting our whole area here.

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post Dec 8 2011, 09:33 PM

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bro,

we were referring to Berangan Banana Plants


MJ, the guy answering my query at Hexagon was not too friendly thus he didnt give me much info on way their plants are more expensive.

whereas the guy at Jalur Salju invited me in for a chat...i went in to kaypoh...haha


QUOTE(MrFarmer @ Dec 8 2011, 08:24 PM)
Sorry missed the topic. What plant is going for $1.80 to $2.50? Seems cheap. Here everything is expensive, but selling our produce is cheap .
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