Yes, that's the way to Go! Wishing the best of luck, and wishing you are going to get your plot soon. Kindly share your experience when you start your farming.

I think I will visit your farm first before clearing the bought land by then. Would love to have your contact details. PM me! We can be friends.

hi chinyen,

are you into farming now ??

where is your farm located ?

thank you

Thanks para for the reply. I will go check with brokers on the land I wanna buy then check with AgriBank for loans. That is the logical step, unless I got an uncle I dunno who suddenly passed away and he will to me 900 acres of 10 year old oil palms.

So far any free land provided for people who want to start farming?

This post has been edited by kaiserwulf: Mar 21 2011, 11:31 AM

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kaiser : MrFarmer's land is in Sabah.

I would suggest you go to the State Agriculture Dept and ask them about abandon land and check if you can start your farming adventure using those lands.

para.i am into farming but i'm still a student...no farm..not like you guys..haha...

so, compared to you guys, i'm even smaller than a fry

This post has been edited by chinyen: Mar 21 2011, 08:20 PM

Thank you for your interest, I do have a couple of people interest to visit my farm, but unfortunately it's not ready to receive guest yet. One very important ingredient is not ready, the toilet. Had an emergency myself due to too much pisang emas & papaya, and have to do it the real natural conventional way, Hahaha. Building one, should be ready in Parcel 5 by the end of the year. You can post here or PM me if you need any information that I have.

As for land, I'm sure you have your strong reasons to choose Southern Kedah, my research points to East Malaysia if you want to have the cheapest land. As for bank loan, last i checked, only 60% max and that too you'll need strong connection. Also note that the Land is not worth much unless you have a structure there. Not sure about the current situation.

You shall have another option, if you don't have a rich uncle, you can look for a rich spouse with plenty land, hahaha. Free land is very difficult to come by and most probably with a lot of string attached / high risk.

This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Mar 21 2011, 11:18 PM

Free-handout land to own: Quite impossible

Free-handout land to work: Likely

Handout land to rent: Abounding


I think I've noted this before somewhere. There's this very enterprising group of guys who go about leasing land from government agencies or GLCs. The rental is usually dirt cheap, like RM50/acre a year. Some of the likes are Rubber Research, TNB etc. Try spotting for agencies that are supposed to relocate to a new plot of land, but would only do so after a couple of years (when the funding is finalized). Or, lease the land under TNB cables to plant short term crops. There's this chap in Teluk Intan who leased the entire stretch of land under TNB cables from Simpang Empat all the way to Bagan Nakhoda, and he planted banana for 3 years, followed by sugarcane, and then banana again. He's doing pretty well.

Yeah agreed with Micheal.
Speaking of banana, bought some of these tissue culture Cavendish.

and had it transplanted

Note the wild varieties in the background.

These are my 3 Specimen for my World Eco Products

Papaya A


Papaya B


Papaya C

Care to elaborate on your specimen A, B & C? Thanks

anyone made it to the Organic's Day at SS2 just now? there were lots of organisations supporting permaculture,organic farming , composting, enzyme making and a lot more...

All 3 specimens are being sprayed by naturally sourced product from my company

i am taking photos for recording purposes

what i am looking for are: -

a) thicker & larger leaves
b) more fruits
c) larger fruits

on veges the effect is faster noticeable because on average veges are 35-40 days crop

Sorry Para, do you mean:

A= Thicker leaves
B= More fruit
C= Larger fruit

?

Para, maybe you need to prepare another specimen, D = no spray of your product? This shall shows the benefits of the products?

This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Mar 28 2011, 05:56 PM

Many papaya farm in Perak got hit by a virus where government agencies are now trying to kill off alot of papaya farm to avoid widespread infection.

One of my relative's papaya farm got hit by that,lose alot due to that

Michael : a & b & c was referring to the results that i am monitoring

sorry for the confusion


i am using my veges are the other comparison. havent had the time to upload it yet

Para:

Agree with Mr. Farmer, it would be better if you have a "control" when doing a comparison study. This control will establish your baseline for any expected improvements.

Comparing papaya with cabbage isn't very plausible, for one reason: they are different organisms. The metabolic pathways, nutrient distribution channels, growth rates etc. are all quite different. For instance, a lot of energy and nutrients are channeled to fruit formation (papaya) instead of leaves (cabbage).

quackpack:
Am sorry to hear about what happened. Is your relative planning to venture into any other crops?




Touching on the issue of diseases, I'll have to say this: it is almost always the fault of ignorance on the part of the farming community. Time and again, it has been proven that all the warnings and prohibitions laid out by MOA and Quarantine are blatantly violated because many in the farming community either think the officers are being mean, greedy for bribes, or possibly plain stupid. But the fact stands that there are very strong reasons for putting these prohibitions. MOA is trying to curb the influx of substandard and disease ridden material from entering the country, but for the sake of being "cheap", a lot of such materials are being illegally brought in. And look at what has happened:

(i) Papaya mosaic virus was introduced into Malaysia through illegal imports of papaya seedlings/planting materials from infested countries; currently devastating the papaya industry
(ii) Swine encephalitis was introduced into Malaysia through illegal import of Taiwanese hogs, which were known carriers of the disease
(iii) Cactus moth and a very virulent strain of soft-rot was introduced into the Pitaya industry, devastating thousands of hectares of Pitaya plantings, due to importation of material from neighbouring countries that did not have proper Sanitary and PhytoSanitary certification (smuggling lar...)
(iv) Collapse of tiger prawn industry in Malaysia due to illegal importation of "white rot" infested tiger prawn larvae
(v) Wide spread infection of Fusarium in banana industry has nearly destroyed the banana plantings in Johore; the cause was linked to unsanitary practices and transport of disease laden soil from "hotspots" to uninfected areas.

I can continue with the list, but I think you get the picture. It is a very sad scene, but if the farming community still insists on going their own direction, and doing things their own way, then I hope they will not turn around and point fingers and pour blame at the very people who first tried to help and protect them.

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Added on March 29, 2011, 8:59 amJust a thought:

With the acute shortage of rubber seeds and seedlings, especially in Sarawak for agroforestry, it would an amazing opportunity for anyone to enter into rubber sapling nursery business right now. Do contract bud-grafting with MRB, and sell the saplings.

Two things are needed for cloned-saplings: (i) Rootstock (grown from seeds) (ii) Clone bud-wood graft (need to get this from MRB)

The opportunity comes immediately for interested parties in the form of collecting and germinating rootstock saplings. With the severe swing in weather patterns, seeds are hard to come by.

Again, just a thought.

This post has been edited by Michael J.: Mar 29 2011, 08:59 AM

paraoptical...i'll join you guys next time for the gathering..so confirmed not coming.^^

Please provide more information? I had not heard of this Organic's Day.
I would like to share that The MAHA2010 is very educational and strongly suggest that farming enthusiastic keep track of it. It's held once every two years, last one was in 2010. I was very fresh when I went to the exhibition and did not do my homework, so i really do not know what to look for. Be prepare to spend 1 to 3 days there.

Enzyme making is very easy. Just remember the ratio 1:3:10. I did a couple and found that using young banana suckers promotes fast growth for rubber trees. Enzyme from papaya help rejuvenate unhealthy Avocado & Cashew nuts.


It can also be used to help composting too. You can make your own fertilizer. I made ours by using Rice Husk and or saw dust. Soak it with enzyme for a day of till 3, mix it with chicken dung (very hot), let it compost for a week or so. It's ready for use.

We collect those husk at the bottom which is already composting (or composted).
Permaculture is very interesting too. Solving agriculture problem the natural way and with the least effort.

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Added on March 29, 2011, 9:22 amTotal agreed with Micheal J. Disease control, crop rotation, good farming practice and stay closely in touch with MOA. Make it a routine to check with MOA every month, I'm sure they have an office close to you. Also do check out the courses that they offer.
Speaking of rubber seedlings. It was $3.00 each for individual (village folks), $3.50 for corporate, last year. This year it is $3.50 for individual and heard that come May it might be $5.00




This post has been edited by MrFarmer: Mar 29 2011, 09:22 AM