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 Venturing into Agriculture & Aquaculture, Co-Ordination & Implementation is KEY

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cktwai
post Mar 11 2007, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 9 2007, 09:05 AM)
Please be reminded that the Meet Up session is this Saturday 10th March 2007 @ 7.30pm @ Secret Recipe, Taman Connaught

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ParaOptical...

Thanks for the knowledge sharing session at Taman Connaught! Really appreciate your help ! notworthy.gif

I tried looking for information online and i don't think there's a lot of information that can actually help people to start up... Perhaps you might want to put all these information you know online smile.gif

Anyway... now my first aim is to look for a land .. Preferably with water source laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2007, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(cktwai @ Mar 11 2007, 11:31 AM)
ParaOptical...

Thanks for the knowledge sharing session at Taman Connaught! Really appreciate your help !  notworthy.gif

You are most welcome. Am glad you get to know something from this. btw thanks for the dinner also. appreciate it.

I tried looking for information online and i don't think there's a lot of information that can actually help people to start up... Perhaps you might want to put all these information you know online smile.gif

true the information online is kinda limited and not so accurate also. well i am not really well versed in this putting info online perhaps you can help me if you got the time ? me bit IT laggard nowadays...

Anyway... now my first aim is to look for a land .. Preferably with water source  laugh.gif


Yes that's the spirit. most important is too

A C T I O N Good Luck


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btw tell your friend the actual material is RFP (Reinforced Fibre Plastic)
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post Mar 14 2007, 12:35 AM

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gud info u got here..maybe i will join u later.when i got free time.. smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2007, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(phat @ Mar 14 2007, 12:35 AM)
gud info u got here..maybe i will join u later.when i got free time..  smile.gif
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thank you. hope you can join us and share and get more ideas.

Place for my COMPOSTING
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post Mar 18 2007, 07:19 PM

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Dear all,

I am a new bee, and want to venture to aqua bussines.

thanks for all the information.

it really made me aware of the cost and the risk.

i got alot of readings yo do, before i start the project.

Para,

thanks for sharing with us your project pictures.

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post Mar 18 2007, 07:53 PM

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May i ask roughly how much money needed to invest into this business include buying land etc?? What is the size of ur land?
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post Mar 18 2007, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 14 2007, 01:05 PM)
thank you. hope you can join us and share and get more ideas.

Place for my COMPOSTING
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looks like a lot of progress... can i like visit your farm ar ?
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post Mar 18 2007, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 14 2007, 01:05 PM)
thank you. hope you can join us and share and get more ideas.

Place for my COMPOSTING
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Hi guys, it is really a good idea to held a visiting to para farm.

Ehh? I tot you rearing fish, why construct a compost pit?
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post Mar 19 2007, 02:05 AM

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ParaOpticaL, are you using normal pipe water?

if yes, then better use natural water.... it will save you a lot

and is better also to have an egg incubation place to hatch eggs

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post Mar 19 2007, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(sAkUrAg1 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:19 PM)
Dear all,

I am a new bee, and want to venture to aqua bussines.

thanks for all the information.

it really made me aware of the cost and the risk.

i got alot of readings yo do, before i start the project.

Para,

thanks for sharing with us your project pictures.
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dont worry everyone including me also a newbie in Agri + Aqua business. that doesnt matter. most important you want to do it.

hope you drop by more as i try to update the info as much as possible. with all the news from all over.


QUOTE(kong5091 @ Mar 18 2007, 07:53 PM)
May i ask roughly how much money needed to invest into this business include buying land etc?? What is the size of ur land?
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from my venture ONE Tank + ONE Filter & Pump is roughly about RM 15k.
you can also rear fishes differently from me. like in Cement Ponds or normal ponds. it doesnt matter.

Land cost varies from each. so i think its not wise to put it up. what you can do is go for renting if $$$ is a problem. rent 5 years with option for another 5.


QUOTE(cktwai @ Mar 18 2007, 08:42 PM)
looks like a lot of progress... can i like visit your farm ar ?
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Can but not now yet. wait till my equipment and things are ready then make a visit. then you will get the idea.

QUOTE(rexis @ Mar 18 2007, 11:46 PM)
Hi guys, it is really a good idea to held a visiting to para farm.

Ehh? I tot you rearing fish, why construct a compost pit?
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Can but not now yet. wait till my equipment and things are ready then make a visit. then you will get the idea.

i have some land vacant so i thought of planting something. maybe HERBS ?


QUOTE(draggy @ Mar 19 2007, 02:05 AM)
ParaOpticaL, are you using normal pipe water?

if yes, then better use natural water.... it will save you a lot

and is better also to have an egg incubation place to hatch eggs
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Nope not using pipe water. my place has a stream passing thru. so i am doing a water cachement area so i can use the natural spring water.



BTW to those who missed the Meet Up Session. i would be happy to have another one. hehe
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post Mar 19 2007, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 12 2007, 05:40 PM)
btw tell your friend the actual material is RFP (Reinforced Fibre Plastic)
thanks
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Paraoptical.... I roughly gave him the specification... He seems to know what I'm talking about... He has done quite a lot of work for fish farms before it seems haha..

Also he said he can do the pump as well... biggrin.gif Is there anything special about the pump other than able to control the speed ?

I'll be able to get a quotation from him tommorrow... then you go contact him la if it's cheaper.. smile.gif



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post Mar 19 2007, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cktwai @ Mar 19 2007, 02:24 PM)
Paraoptical.... I roughly gave him the specification... He seems to know what I'm talking about... He has done quite a lot of work for fish farms before it seems haha..

Also he said he can do the pump as well...  biggrin.gif Is there anything special about the pump other than able to control the speed ?

I'll be able to get a quotation from him tommorrow... then you go contact him la if it's cheaper..  smile.gif
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WOW he can do pumps which is good for future purposes.

as for the RFP if he can give assurance and guarantee i dont see any harm in getting from him as i want to reduce cost in the process.

thanks for the heads up
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post Mar 25 2007, 01:19 PM

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i have some land vacant so i thought of planting something. maybe HERBS ?


How big is the piece of land?

You can plant dragon fruit/pitaya, these cactus do not need that much of care, and they will start fruiting pretty fast, some within 9 month to get the first batch of fruits. And they fetch quite a good market price too, if you can find the market of course. And theres one case i read about is

a pitaya farmer actually transplanted all his pitaya to another land, dig the whole thing out including the supporting pilla, 100% survival. Just in case your landlord want to take back his land in future.

Or you can consider some short tern crops like jagung, chilli. Sweetcorn perhaps not that good price but the market is there. Cili padi have a good price and can harvest relatively fast.

Or build a goat barn there, buy in a few baby goat, and feed them for a few month, then sell them, fast money. But if you are not that keen on rearing mutton...

If its not really a big plot of land, you can consider make compost pile from it, get lots of chicken/goat/cow manure and mix them with grass chippings and compost bacteria, turn them weekly and 1.5 months later you will have lots of compost. You should be able to get some RM300/ton, you dont really need that much space to accumulate 10 tons of these organic fertilizer you know.

Herbs, perhaps you can ask pejabat petanian about this.

Or if you not really that urgently want to make money with this piece of land, plant some flower/fruit trees you like and make it into a nice garden where you can really relax. We should really enjoy our life you see.
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post Mar 25 2007, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(rexis @ Mar 25 2007, 01:19 PM)
How big is the piece of land?

You can plant dragon fruit/pitaya, these cactus do not need that much of care, and they will start fruiting pretty fast, some within 9 month to get the first batch of fruits. And they fetch quite a good market price too, if you can find the market of course. And theres one case i read about is

a pitaya farmer actually transplanted all his pitaya to another land, dig the whole thing out including the supporting pilla, 100% survival. Just in case your landlord want to take back his land in future.

Or you can consider some short tern crops like jagung, chilli. Sweetcorn perhaps not that good price but the market is there. Cili padi have a good price and can harvest relatively fast.

Or build a goat barn there, buy in a few baby goat, and feed them for a few month, then sell them, fast money. But if you are not that keen on rearing mutton...

If its not really a big plot of land, you can consider make compost pile from it, get lots of chicken/goat/cow manure and mix them with grass chippings and compost bacteria, turn them weekly and 1.5 months later you will have lots of compost. You should be able to get some RM300/ton, you dont really need that much space to accumulate 10 tons of these organic fertilizer you know.

Herbs, perhaps you can ask pejabat petanian about this.

Or if you not really that urgently want to make money with this piece of land, plant some flower/fruit trees you like and make it into a nice garden where you can really relax. We should really enjoy our life you see.
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thanks for the info.
actually i am trying to divide the plot of land so i can do some R&D

when my site (Aquaculture) is ready, those who are free can come over for a visit.

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to those who havent met up pls PM or we get a date so we can meet up to brainstorm abit.

thanks


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post Mar 26 2007, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 25 2007, 06:03 PM)
thanks for the info.
actually i am trying to divide the plot of land so i can do some R&D

when my site (Aquaculture) is ready, those who are free can come over for a visit.

......................

to those who havent met up pls PM or we get a date so we can meet up to brainstorm abit.

thanks
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Some add on, i read about a banana farmer actually plant cili padi among his banana plants, the income from the cili can actually pay up his workers salary. But it is not like you can plant cili among your fish thou...
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QUOTE(rexis @ Mar 26 2007, 09:07 AM)
Some add on, i read about a banana farmer actually plant cili padi among his banana plants, the income from the cili can actually pay up his workers salary. But it is not like  you can plant cili among your fish thou...
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actually planting what plants or herbs i really dont have an idea.
will go to MARDI and Pertanian to ask around.

as for the fish species am going to Shah Alam on wednesday for advice.
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post Mar 29 2007, 03:20 PM

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Update from me....@ 29/3/07


Half of the fibre glass before being "LEGOed"
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Moving the fibre glass pieces slowly and steadily
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My tanks arranged in a row
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Inside view of a big tank
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View of a small tank
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View of a big tank
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Mmmm, high value fresh water fish to rear... its gotta be soon hok. The fresh one fetch a good price. Talapia and Keli is your laaaast choice. OR you can even consider pet fish! Like koi, gold fish, etc.

Wooo, if those lovely tanks under my procession i will make them into giant composting tanks... thats what i am up to recently. I know how to make compost, but how good is the end product, will it grow or kill vegetables, might be able to find out 3 months later.

I once calculated if you cover your acre with 4 feet deep dead plants + chicken manure you will have some half of million $ worth of compost a few months later. Well, i always dreaming about things thats too good to be true, so the actual value might me *slightly* lower...

I read about a factory actually collect vegetable and fruit waste from pasar borong and grind them into bits, mix with goat manure, and let them rot for 45 days, then you got organic fertilizer. They selling it some half a $ per kg and have some 150k worth of business monthly.

Waste to cash. Tats the way to go.
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post Mar 30 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(rexis @ Mar 29 2007, 10:57 PM)
Mmmm, high value fresh water fish to rear... its gotta be soon hok. The fresh one fetch a good price. Talapia and Keli is your laaaast choice. OR you can even consider pet fish! Like koi, gold fish, etc.

Wooo, if those lovely tanks under my procession i will make them into giant composting tanks... thats what i am up to recently. I know how to make compost, but how good is the end product, will it grow or kill vegetables, might be able to find out 3 months later.

I once calculated if you cover your acre with 4 feet deep dead plants + chicken manure you will have some half of million $ worth of compost a few months later. Well, i always dreaming about things thats too good to be true, so the actual value might me *slightly* lower...

I read about a factory actually collect vegetable and fruit waste from pasar borong and grind them into bits, mix with goat manure, and let them rot for 45 days, then you got organic fertilizer. They selling it some half a $ per kg and have some 150k worth of business monthly.

Waste to cash. Tats the way to go.
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compost the place i will do it when i have a bigger plot of land.

as of your story i saw it in the papers. its about a Market in Seri Kembangan...

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Mar 30 2007, 08:49 AM)
compost the place i will do it when i have a bigger plot of land.

as of your story i saw it in the papers. its about a Market in Seri Kembangan...
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hi,

I'm interested in this farming thing.

i have one question here... for the aquaculture... how will be the fish and prawn taste? cause the fish and prawn feed by ourself will have some " not nice taste or mud" in chinese is " chao cho" Hopefully u got what i mean.

How to solve this type of problem? Sorry I'm newbie in this. notworthy.gif

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