leech good!!

japan use to do facial.. correct?

btw

ROTI JOHN u doing cacing tanah?

interested here

when can pay a visit?

ROTI JOHN is into vermiculture, you can refer to him.

Pros and cons up and down of earthworm and earthworm poo has been well described in this thread, hopefully you find the reading useful.

Note that if you able to produce high quality worm compost with vermiculture, it is quite a ready market out there!

Meanwhile, I am still looking to rent some cheap property to carry out my projects.

Should you be interested about further details, go thru my siggy

This post has been edited by rexis: Jun 20 2008, 08:56 AM

Hi there.......i am newbie here but always following the tread since page 1. Need some tips where to have a course about arowana biz ? Have check with Unit Ikan Perhiasan in Perak but no reply till todate. Hope all the agro 'sifu' willing to assist. I have start my own but just a "backyard scale" in fibertank since 6 mths ago.

Perhaps I can try to look around my agroworld magazine library for any arowana or exotic fish breeding? I think I seen a few articles before but not too sure if they are in details.

Get back to u soon.

Which type of arowana you're planning to breed? As far as I know, Golden Aros need to have CITES certification and permit to rear, breed, and trade them. Silver and Pearls still do not require CITES documents.

I have a suggestion: Why not try applying for a job with Qian Hu or Xian Leng? Both of them have permission to breed arowanas, and both of them are the experts in their fields. Don't need to apply as breeder, even just a normal assistant also can de. But do lots of PR and show lots of interest. Apart from that, there are a number of great books about breeding arowanas that you can get from MPH or Amazon.

Hi thanks Bro Rexis. FYI i have ask a help/assistance from Gov for leaseland for earthpond purposes but they reply that i must have a course cert. 4 it. Checking highlow for the course but no avail.

Mike, i am afraid both farms unable to pay me ha ha ha...for friendship sake, i have pretty Okay daytime job he he he . Abt the permit that can be obtain in near future. basically there are so many good breeders around as well BUT keeping low profile, i just need a little secret trade in terms of technical aspect thanks bro.....remember brother ParaOptical saying....ACTION.

Mmm... I asked Jabatan Perikanan before about courses and training etc., and they said they could arrange for it should there be a sizeable number of participants. But "sizeable" here was about 30 people.... that, was insane.

Yea... there are a number of really good aro breeders. I know some of them too. But if you're just breeding for the sake of breeding, then that's fine la... Just as long as you keep a very low profile. CITES is very dangerous man... Not long ago, a guy in the orchid trade got arrested for possesing and breeding wild Paphiopedilum orchids (Slipper Orchids) that had been in his family for more than 50 years (before CITES was even enforced). The arguement CITES officers had were he could not prove that the internationally protected plant had been in his family's possesion for 50 years, and that he had no permit to keep, breed, or trade the plants. They took everything, put him in jail for 2 months, and fined him about 5 thousand dollars.

Maybe this would be a good time to bring up what CITES really is... CITES is short for Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species. Malaysia is a member of this international convention too. Now the laws governing CITES is extremely complex and few lawyers can understand and interpret the laws. But generally, the law forbids the trade in any part of the endangered species listed. And by trade, it does not just refer to the buying and selling of the species, but also the movement and relocation of these species from their original habitat. If you have CITES certified species, and you plan on breeding and propagating the species, then it is fine according to CITES law, as long as you do not trade them, i.e. exchange, sell, relocate, or even release back into the former habitat.

So anyone planning on doing an agrobusiness related to such species, please be aware about this, especially orchids which are native to Malaysia. They may be common around where we stay, but they could be listed under CITES too.

I used to breed betta sp. (Fighting Fish), and I especially loved breeding the wild types. But after finding out that many of those I had were CITES redlisted, I passed them on to certified breeders. The hammer has not fallen on betta breeders, especially those breeding wild types, but if CITES gets a whiff of this, they'll be all over us. So in a nutshell, just be careful if you intend on breeding endangered species.

Thanks bro mike, really appreciated the infor & knowledge....

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Added on July 2, 2008, 10:44 pmAdditional information :


http://www.cites.org/common/reg/cb/malaysia.html

Senarai reg arowana breeders in Mlaysia.

This post has been edited by mazda626: Jul 2 2008, 10:44 PM

hi guys I am new to this thread.

I want to ask what is the most lucrative products these days? or what will be the hot product in the future?

I am going to move into rural area in the next 2 years, my father is a farmer now, growing vegetables. I am now working in UK, save enough money to buy some lands, planning to change my career as a farmer as well.

I am now thinking of doing swiftlets farming, poultry and goats herding. any other ideas?

oh btw the place that I am going to move into is in Ranau Sabah, close to Mt Kinabalu. most of the people there are farmers as well.

Hi there, Ranau Sabah is a highland smaltown with cold weather beb. If U experienced Swansea then U should know......if U from Sandakan going to KK via inland transit then Ranau will be at your right hand side, snake road, nice view of MT Kinabalu especially around 6am till 11am. After 11am mist will covering your view. Nice people and nice town to reside, trust me. KK to Ranau by road abt 2 hrs. From Sandakan to Ranau abt 5 hrs.

Ranau suitable for = All type flowers, rose flowers, apple, orchids. My friend doing well with "kobis", hotel or chalet biz.....i am sure U will doing U millions in Ranau at no time as long as there are "action".

hi mazda626, you'r sabahan too?

Yeah I know Ranau quite well, my kampung is in Kundasang just that I grew up in KK.

btw I am a dude.

resort biz cost millions bed and breakfast may be possible.

Hi,

Seems like balik kg ha ha ha ha. Then i suggest U should venture into grape planting scheme or apple geng......just innovate here & there. Example those day people (7 yrs ago, taukeh's of pond) always tell me kelisa CANNOT breed in bare concrete tank or fibre tank but FFRM in Melaka had done it successfully at 1st attempt. Agrobiz need innovation, "crazy ideas" and something like that. I guess we need to send our national fresh udang galah or Tilapia merah to UK via airfreight in bulk beb...ha ha ha ha. Yeah, born in Sandakan but residing in KL abt 15 years....green posture...

Regards.

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Added on July 10, 2008, 1:03 amBro Rexis

Any tips for me to have the course ? thanks in billions...


cheers


This post has been edited by mazda626: Jul 10 2008, 01:03 AM

Hi guys, I haven't check this thread for a long time. By the way, check out my gaharu thread. Hopefully you guys would be interested to start this business

amirbashah,
its good to see you having something kicking and running there! Just remember, passion and perseverance. I seen your thread in FBI. Yaya, jumlah, berkebun, Janganlah asyik jam tiap tiap pagi aja.

ah_suknat,
hi! I am KK chai, Ranau is a nice place to stay, very few Sabahan as far sighted as you, most of them choose to chasing traffics in big city. Ended up trapped in the concrete forest, sth like myself.

There is a few things you need to pay attention to if you are farming in Sabah.
- The local demand is lower compare to City like KL, Peneng, Singapore.
- The big players there mostly large plantations with cash crops.

For a low demand market, it is unwise to plant large area of same crop, like 20 acres of banana or cabbage. Coz any oversupply means sending your money to landfill. Unless you are able to secure oversea demand like exporting them, but to meet international standard, more cost for packaging, QC, etc. Hence it is very important to diversify your crops, like plant at least a couple of high demand vege(like cabbage, sawi, chili, gourds, corn etc). But it is also very important to keep a sensible volume so you can directly sell them to a wholeseller. Of course, open up a stall in Gaya street will cut the middleman, but you cant sell all your vege like that isnt it?

Thou if possible, cut the middle man completely by opening up a dedicated vege shop in KK, do one dragon business, KK is a small place to pass info around so if you able to provide good vege, royal customers will come.

Since your dad is a farmer, it is even easier for you to kick start! Just listen to the old man

If your land is big enough, like >100 acres, then you can start thinking about cash crop, like cocoa, oil palm, etc.

mazda626,
Sori, not yet hv time to dig thru my library, perhaps you can find something here.

For your info, Arowana breeding business easily involved a couple of millions, other then the cost to purchase the daddy and mummy fish, the quipments, and also the security needed to protect your investment.

You aint going to let your arowana grow up in a mud pool aren't you?

But this is for a large scale breeder, I have a friend which her bf is breeding aquarium fish at a rented apartment. Of course you can up start as small business, all trees came from a tiny seed.

None the less, once you identify your direction, hold up on it!

This post has been edited by rexis: Jul 10 2008, 05:47 PM

Help!

oy, havent checked this site since ages, i was too busy handling the farm that i forgotten about this page till this day, because... my company is sending me 10,000 pieces (2-3inches) of Marbled Goby/Soon Hock/Ketutu fry!

Ive been farming Australian Barramundi and Australian Jade perch and so far without any major problem, but now theyre sending in the Soon Hock for a trial. Ten thousand of them! And to be honest, i know very little on how to farm these fishes. Ive read Rexus general post on soon hock, and a few other reading materials. But im not confident enough that i can handle those fishes.

Please, if any have any advise and can offer guidance, mail me at far1_ed1@hotmail.com, or reply on this thread.

Oh yeah, latest report on the farm, 25mT Australian Barramundi and 15mT Jade Perch was generated from this farm up to date.

Thanks all!

Darkus, fyi, TS ParaOptical is keeping a pond or two of Soon Hock, perhaps he can offer you some guidance.

A quick comment, soon hock is predatory fish, it is very important to keep them well fed or they will start chewing each other. If I am not mistaken, you need to feed the fry some protozoa and then when they grow up big enough, you need to try to make they get used to fish feed. They prefer to eat living thing like small prawn, tadpoles, cacing, insect, etc.

Australian Barramundi = siakap? First time seen Jade perch, looks like huge supply of omega3. Perhaps you can enrich us with some fish info.

Cough, its Rexis.

This post has been edited by rexis: Jul 14 2008, 10:53 AM

thanks rexis for the advice, but for now cash is limited, I am not a big time farmer, just a small fry

I am seriously thinking of doing poultry farm yarding style, you know like the normal kandang and grass for chickens to ponder around. I think there should be a market for healthy chicken meat, people are more health and animal welfare conscious now adays, they don't want to eat the growth hormone injected chicken grew up cruely in tight space factory.

its impossible for me to do organic or 100 percent free range due to limited of land space, I only got half an acre of land to build the farm at the moment to do it small scale, when I know the selok belok how to rise the chickens and demand increasing I will buy a bigger land with more chicken , where you study? me ex tshung tsin

Apologise for the typo Rexis,

Ill be sure to PM TS after this.

Well, i am rearing Barramundi and they are predators (very territorial) out in the sea, but once introduced into a closed up enviroment, it is found that these instinct were set aside due to smaller territory/spaces. I hope these soon hocks would do the same.

Also, my farm is using Pellets as fish feed im very worried in regards to supplying the soon hocks with live feed or other uncooked organics as their main feed. My farm is a closed circulated, the effect to the water quality would be too great i believe. ANy other feed has to be tested for any GMOs and others (disease/parrasites/etc) before is can be introduced to the farms modules.

FYI:

Australian Barramundi = Lates calcarifer, same Genus as the native Siakap/Kakap but different specie name (although they look the same to me) Its just Branding of the fish as the corporates wants them to be different than the local fish (the price too... RM25/Kg!!!!)

Jade Perch

Can try this allyouwanttofindoutaboutjadeperch link ==> "Jade Perch"

Yeah the Omega 3 is scientifically proven to have at least 3 times greater content than Salmon, and i wont deny it cause its been tested in Mardi and Sirim Labs. Mardi is even looking into converting those Om3 into tablets as health additives. And guess what... for now we are the only farm in malaysia growing and marketing it. There are other farms like us in west malaysia (Sepang; joint with LKIM and Datuk K/ Kuala Kubu Baru; wholly owned by Protech Yu[a Fish Protech Subsidiary]) also in Brunei. They opened up a farm in China (until the PRC opened up the system upsde down and copied the tech) but theyre still new and are not marketing the Jades commercially like our farm here. You can find my fishes in all Carre4 stores in Klang Valley both barra and jades.

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Added on July 11, 2008, 8:56 pmErm, who is TS again?

This post has been edited by Darkus: Jul 11 2008, 08:56 PM

Edited and added my previous post, I am sure ParaOptical is interested to talk to you.

Branding of the fish... a while ago I heard about a fish farm producing frozen red talapia in vacuum package and brand it as cherry fish. It seem like most people process talapia into fish fillet now.

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Ah yes, in Sabah the "maize" chicken is very popular and highly priced, my grandmother is raising her own maize chicken. As the name implies, the chicken diet mainly made of maize aka corn.

In semenanjung here, whats popular is the "vege garden" chicken, which suppose to be chicken raised in the open rather then fully in cage. They cost is slightly cheaper then maize chicken in Sabah, also considered high price, and do not affect by the ceiling price issued by gov as they are not regular farm fed chicken.

I can't see any vege garden chicken available in Sabah, perhaps you can work some out

Maize chicken: very fat, yellowish skin, unique delicious chicken flavor, and tough meat texture.
Garden chicken: slightly fat, light yellow skin, chicken flavor without the farm chicken stink, tough meat texture.
Farm chicken: fat, pale skin, meat is soft and smelly.

This post has been edited by rexis: Jul 14 2008, 12:04 PM

Darkus : which farm are you doing ? Where is your farm ?

are you rearing in ponds or RAS ?