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amirbashah
post Oct 27 2007, 09:00 PM

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Woooow, cool thread. I really didn't know this thread existed. Well, a bit of introduction of myself. My name is Amir and I'm 24 years old. Soon to be working as a PTD officer. I have 7 acres of land in Sungai Merab (Near to Bandar Baru Bangi and Putrajaya) which before this I didn't know what to do with it. My friend introduced me to Agarwood/Gaharu a few weeks ago and I started to do a lot of research on it. In my opinion, I think it has a lot of potential to make money.Currently I have 10 trees which I recently bought (No money yet smile.gif ) and would buy more trees soon.Maybe next month I will start to plant 1000+ trees on my land.Well if anyone interested or currently planting these trees, do inform me. Maybe we could work together.

Check out my thread in finance and business section.

Bila menyebut gaharu, ramai di antara kita yang membayangkan harganya yang begitu mahal sehingga ada yang mengatakan ia lebih bernilai dari emas. Harganya boleh mencecah sehingga RM14,000 - RM20,000 sekilogram untuk kepingan gaharu yang bermutu tinggi. Namun, semua hasil ini diambil dari hutan dan kini realitinya, pokok karas diancam kepupusan.Tanpa kesedaran untuk penanaman semula, negara kita mungkin tidak lagi dapat mengeksport hasil gaharu yang begitu tinggi permintaannya ke negara-negara Timur Tengah dan juga negara lain seperti Taiwan, Jepun dan sebagainya. Mungkin kita patut menoleh ke negara jiran yang lain seperti Indonesia, Thailand dan Myamar, mereka sudah jauh meninggalkan kita dari segi teknologi dan perladangan.
Mungkin, kekurangan sumber maklumat yang tepat dan juga permulaan modal yang tinggi untuk diusahakan secara komersil menjadi faktor ia kurang diminati. Wajar, agensi - agensi kerajaan yang ada memainkan peranan dalam menyalurkan fakta yang lengkap dan perkembangan teknologi harus dicapai dalam usaha menjadikan ia sebagai industri direalisasikan.Ramai di antara kita yang tidak sedar, usaha penanaman pokok karas sudahpun dilakukan oleh beberapa agensi yang ada di beberapa tempat di negara kita, juga penyelidikan dalam penghasilan gaharu melalui kaedah suntikan dan inokulasi juga giat dijalankan.Namun, kurangnya pendedahan dan pengumpulan maklumat, ia kurang memberi impak dalam pelaksanaannya.Untuk mereka yang berminat dalam penanaman pokok karas, mungkin ada berita gembira. Mulai tahun hadapan (2007), teknologi dalam penghasilan gaharu akan dibawa masuk ke negara kita. Usaha menjemput Prof. Blanchette oleh satu agensi kerajaan adalah sangat tepat pada masanya. Namun, jika kita tidak menanamnya, teknologi tiada makna.Berbalik kepada usaha penanaman pokok karas secara ladang, beberapa faktor harus dipertimbangkan seperti pemilihan anak benih, jarak tanaman, kaedah tanaman, kaedah suntikan dan pasaran. Ia harus dinilai untuk meminimakan risiko yang ada dan mendapat hasil yang maksima selepas 7 tahun pelaburan.Pertamanya, pemilihan anak benih sering menjadi persoalan. Ada yang mengatakan spesis A lebih baik dari spesis B dan ada yang sebaliknya kerana ia lebih cepat membesar dan lebih mahal. Seharusnya kita meneliti semula beberapa kajian, pokok karas sebenarnya mempunyai method yang berbeza dengan pokok lain. Pokok yang sihat dan membesar dengan cepat menghasilkan resin gaharu yang sedikit berbanding pokok yang sakit dan diganggu. Ia sebenarnya selari dengan kejadian semulajadi gaharu di dalam hutan, pokok yang berada di kawasan berbatu dan mengalami tindakbalas kecederaan yang teruk menghasilkan gaharu yang lebih bermutu. Kita juga harus melihat kepada permintaan pasaran, spesis manakah yang menjadi pilihan pembeli dan mempunyai harga yang tinggi. Spesis Aquilaria Malaccencis adalah merupakan salah satu spesis yang mempunyai nilai komersil yang tinggi.Manakala kaedah penanaman, jarak penanaman 6"x6" atau 10"x10" menghasilkan jumlah tanaman pada 430 pokok atau 1,000 pokok seekar. Penanaman secara intergrasi adalah lebih meminimunkan risiko, malahan memberi pulangan jangka pendek yang boleh menampung kos keseluruhan. Sulaman boleh dilakukan dengan tanaman herba dan tanaman kontang. Penjarakkan yang sesuai harus dilihat. Selepas pokok karas mencapai usia 5 tahun, suntikan sejenis enzim dilakukan untuk penghasilan gaharu dan dibiarkan selama 2 tahun sebelum mendapat hasil. Perlu diingatkan, tanpa teknologi ini pokok karas tidak akan membentuk gaharu di dalamnya. Berbeza dengan semulajadi, gaharu terbentuk pada usia pokok 20 - 40 tahun melalui gangguan oleh fizikal atau microrganisme.
Banyak laporan di dada akhbar dan laman web, menyatakan setiap pokok menghasilkan gaharu bernilai sehingga RM14,000 - RM18,000. Tetapi, kita perlu menilai setiap aspek dan risiko. Mungkin tidak keterlaluan jika kita meletakkan RM1,000 sahaja untuk sepokok yang menghasilkan gaharu. Bayangkan anda menanam 1,000 pokok dan anda tentu dapat mengira angkanya. Malahan jika hanya 50% sahaja yang menjadi, jumlah pendapatannya masih tinggi! Oleh itu, amat penting untuk kita semua memperolehi sebanyak mungkin maklumat untuk merealisasikan penanaman pokok karas secara ladang. Diharapkan ada agensi yang bertindak sebagai pemantau dan dapat menyimpan data semua ladang karas di negara kita. Maklumat sebegini amat berguna untuk rujukan dimasa akan datang.


Anggaran Kos Permulaan Penanaman (Kelantan) bagi Seekar Tanah


1)Membersih tanah- RM500.00

2)Anak Pokok 10 Bulan (RM5.00 x 430 pokok)- RM2150.00

3)Baja C.I.R.P (RM0.50 x 430 ketul)- RM215.00

4)Kos penanaman (RM1.00 x 430 pokok)- RM430.00

5)Sistem siraman (anggaran polypaip untuk seekar)- RM3500.00

6)Kayu penegak / buluh (RM0.50 x 430 batang)- RM215.00

JUMLAH- RM7,010.00


Anggaran Kos untuk 7 tahun Seekar Tanah


1)Kos penanaman awal- RM7,010.00

2)Pembajaan C.I.R.P (3 x 3 tahun x RM0.50 x 430 pokok)- RM1,935.00

3)Penjagaan / pembersihan kawasan (RM 200 x 7 tahun)- RM1,400.00

4)Kos suntikan/ inducement pada tahun ke - 5 (RM50 x 430 pokok)- RM21,500.00

5)Kos penebangan pokok dan kutipan hasi- RMl3,500.00

6)Lain-lain kos (pagar / jagaan dsbnya)- RM5000.00

JUMLAH- RM41,345.00


GAHARU - Anggaran Hasil

Anggaran hasil minimun RM 1,000.00 sepokok.

Seekar (430 pokok)

- 100% RM 430,000.00

- 80% RM 344,000.00

- 50% RM 215,000.00


Jadual Gred di Pasaran/Agarwood Pricing


Buat masa ini tiada gred yang seragam dan selalunya berbeza mengikut negeri. Berikut adalah gred yang dikeluarkan oleh JPSM dalam Bengkel Penyeragaman Penggredan Gaharu di Semenanjung Malaysia pada awal bulan Jun 2007 yang lalu di Kuala Lipis Pahang.

Harga (perkilogram)/ Price (perkilogram)

Gred Super A-RM 25,000 ke atas

Gred A-RM 20,000

Gred B-RM 18,000

Gred C-RM 15,000

Gred D-RM 8,000

Gred E-RM 3,000

Lain-lain Gred-RM 500 - RM 1,000

Gred Kayu untuk Minyak-RM 5 - RM 100

Minyak Gaharu-RM 300 - RM 350/ tola (12gm)

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Sorry guys,I dont have the English version.Hope this is ok.

Could someone please teach me how to put pictures in posts?

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post Oct 31 2007, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Oct 31 2007, 08:29 AM)
hi amir,

welcome to the thread.

what is a PTD Officer ? please enlighten us. thanks

about posting pictures you can go to sites like ImageShack to open an account and upload your picture there. Then get a link and paste it here so people can access it. thanks
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PTD stands for Pegawai Tadbir dan Diplomatik. I work for the government. So what do you honestly think about this agarwood business? Does it have any potential? And one more thing, could you please give me some suggestions on what other plants, tress or livestocks which have potential to make money. I'm currently planting agarwood but to avoid risk, I have to diversify. In my opinion planting chilies or other vegetables require a lot of work. Livestocks as well. So I'm really interested in something that doesn't require a lot of effort or less training. I want YOUR SUGGESTIONS. Thanks for teaching me on how to upload pictures.

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post Oct 31 2007, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Oct 31 2007, 12:06 PM)
sorry i am using PhotoBucket. not too sure about Image Shack. try it and tinker about it.

PTD of which department ?

about your agarwood business definitely the figures looks inviting but have you surveyed enough about it and its market. sometimes the report or news can say alot of wonderful wonderful things but it aint to be. i hope you can do more research.

for the plants or livestocks, suggest you go for cash crops like 4-6 mths crops that would be faster. actually agriculture need lots of work. so you cant be lazy and take the easy way out... biggrin.gif
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Actually I haven't start working and don't know which department yet. I'll start working in 2 weeks time. Going to Sungai Petani for training.

About agarwood, I only heard a lot of good news but I think there are drawbacks as well. That's why I'm looking for another business too. To minimize risk. I still haven't stop doing research.

Not lazy, just I couldn't monitor my plants/livestocks as often as I could because of my job commitment in the future. I'm not a full time business man as you are. biggrin.gif

Could you please explain to me about your business? How much capital needed? What kind of training I have to go through? How much does a kilo of those fish cost in the market (The pricing)? And anything that would interest me. Cakap Melayu lagi senang. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 31 2007, 07:49 PM

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Just to let you guys know, there's this one old guy planting gaharu on his 30 acres land. A Japanese investor wants to buy the trees for RM60 million.


RM60,000,000. drool.gif

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post Dec 17 2007, 11:19 AM

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LOANS,SEMINAR/COURSES,PROMOTION ETC

I work for the Ministry of Rural and Regional Development under 'ekonomi desa'. Anyone who's interested to start a business(Agriculture,food processing,tourism,cyber cafe,doby and much more), we could help you. Our services include loans (Up to RM500k),seminars and courses,marketing and so on. But for BUMIS only. Check out our website at www.rurallink.gov.my for more information.
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post Dec 17 2007, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Dec 17 2007, 01:55 PM)
brother this is not SME loan. this is Min of Rural development. so its different.
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Actually we cooperate with SME bank and Bank Rakyat. The loan will be provided by them with low interest.

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post Dec 17 2007, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Dec 17 2007, 02:50 PM)
yeah i know but this funding is NOT for SME. and moreover your criteria clearly states that BUMI only.

where are you stationed ?
in Putrajaya ?
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Yup, Putrajaya.
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post Dec 17 2007, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(rexis @ Dec 17 2007, 04:46 PM)
Tell me about your training, is it organized by your own people in the same department, or it is outsourced?

If it is outsourced to another training party to conduct the training, you should have some contacts. Unless you say they are only focus on taking gov project.

Anyhow, thanks for the suggestion, I gotta go MOA sooner or later.
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There will be a lot of training next year. Most of them consist of agriculture,homestay,business and so on.The training will be outsourced of course.Actually I don't handle training and furthermore I just started working. I will try to look for the contacts and give it to you later. Good luck with your business. smile.gif
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post Dec 28 2007, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(zolarius @ Dec 28 2007, 03:53 PM)
Where are the courses conducted, how much and duration for each course?  I looked up the KKLW website but it was in 2007 training calendar.
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I think you better call the officer in charge of the training.And please don't mention my name smile.gif

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post Jan 7 2008, 06:03 PM

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Does anyone here have any information on herbs (Tongkat Ali, Kacip Fatimah etc). Just want to know more on this particular plant. Can herbs for example Tongkat Ali fetch a huge price in the market? Just want to diversify my portfolio (Plants). Do provide me more information. Thanks. smile.gif
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:15 PM

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Hi guys, I haven't check this thread for a long time. By the way, check out my gaharu thread. Hopefully you guys would be interested to start this business smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 01:54 PM

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No one mention anything about lemongrass (serai) in this thread. In my opinion, it's a good business. First of all, you can do it as a part time job. Moreover the return is quite high (Around RM8k-RM10k per acre) and it only takes 6-8 months to grow. There's a lot of blog/website discussing about the topic. I'm planning to do it myself and will integrate it with my gaharu trees smile.gif

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post Sep 25 2008, 02:10 PM

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Yup, 6-8 months. My mistake smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 03:30 PM

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Yup, you need at least 6 acres of land and you plant it in stages (so you can harvest it continuously every month). You first plant it on 1 acre and after 1 month you'll plant it on another acre so that you can harvest the lemon grass consistently every month.

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post Sep 25 2008, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Sep 25 2008, 05:10 PM)
or 1 acre divided into 6 lot tongue.gif
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You'll get around RM1k-RM2k per month. Not bad smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2008, 08:32 AM

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You can earn RM8k-RM10k per acre. Not 6 acre. NET PROFIT.
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post Jul 27 2011, 12:41 PM

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Hi guys,

I havent been here for a long time. I'm currently looking for new ideas for my future agriculture projects since my serai project failed and my gaharu project hasnt generate any income for me yet. I wont be doing it now due to financial constraint. Maybe a few years from now. In my opinion, planting vegetables such as bendi and chilli is a better option because both these veges can be harvested in a few months. What do you guys think?
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Added on July 27, 2011, 1:40 pmamirbashah:

I'm so sorry to hear that your venture petered out. Don't worry, what does not kill us, will usually make us stronger.

Chili a little more difficult lar... Yields can be impressive and likewise the returns, but really need constant care. I tried on hobby scale before, but fruit fly infestation, anthracnose outbreak, mealybugs etc. really wreaked havoc on the commercial varieties. I mostly gave away the chilies, but the one good thing that resulted from this was that the breed I developed made it through unscathed. Not many seeds have been passed around, and I don't know if any of those I gave away are still being cultivated. Not sure if many people want to plant a 5 foot tall chili plant that bears white-colored chilies with a fragrance of apricots and peaches.

Bendi might fare better. I believe the latest hybrid okra released by MARDI is really good. Bought some seeds at the last National Seed Symposium. Didn't disappoint me.
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I agree with you, it's not easy to plant chili. I've heard a lot of bad stories especially regarding the pest and virus associated with the plant. I did a lot of research on different crops (banana, sugar cane, bendi etc) but havent decide which one to choose. From my past experience, the most important thing is not to jump on the bandwagon when everyone starts doing something which is popular at that time. It happened to me with my serai venture. I got conned and the guy still owes me RM10k sad.gif

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post Jul 27 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Jul 27 2011, 02:58 PM)
for me, at my new site am planning the below

1) place to plant herbs that would be given out for free to help people

2) planting for banana

3) planting of nangka madu

4) fertigation

5) small fish pond
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You're such a good person trying to help other people. Speaking of nangka madu, I stumble upon a website where this guy is planting nangka madu and other crops. Here is the link. He's doing really well I guess.
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[quote=MrFarmer,Jul 27 2011, 07:00 PM]
HI amirbashah, can share why your Serai project failed? I dis plant some Serai a few months ago alone the perimeter of our farm, only as a supplementary corps. It shall be interesting for me to learn from you. Also the Gaharu, I've heard many people talking about it and the Indons even swear by it, cliaming to have medicinal value. I have in my possession a couple of plant-lets and have not decided on what to do with it.

I did intercropping with the gaharu trees. It was due to the soil condition of my land plus I got conned by the people supplying the serai. I didnt plough the soil before planting the serai. The soil was really hard and water can't get through. Moreover the supplier promised he would come to my land once a month to fertilize the serai and for weeding. Unfortunately he only went there once or twice in 6 months. That's my sad story.

Is the serai market doing good now? During the time I started the project, the serai was oversupplied causing the price to drop.

I've received a lot of mix reaction regarding gaharu. Some say they can fetch a lot of money but some sceptics dont believe it will happen. Currently I have around 2000-3000 trees on my land. Not sure how many trees survived. I havent visit my land for a few months now and now my land is 'semak' already. rclxub.gif


Added on July 28, 2011, 4:20 pm[quote=ParaOpticaL,Jul 28 2011, 09:57 AM]
To those who are interested to take some course in agriculture

http://www.umcced.edu.my/DIP/EDIP.html

Executive Diploma in Plantation Management by UMCCED

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Anyone has information on Training Course for Fertigation ??

MARDI has one but it is ALWAYS not enough participants
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Seems like an interesting course. Can finish in a year. I'm doing my MBA now and most definitely wont be taking it right now.

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