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Venturing into Agriculture & Aquaculture, Co-Ordination & Implementation is KEY
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rexis
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May 24 2008, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(mamba @ May 22 2008, 11:17 PM) Forgot to state, im interested in earthworm farming for compose. But Im just interested to start it with about 200gram worms, and yes I know normally no one will sell it unless I bought a kilo. Is there any chance for me to get it? Planning to setup chinchillas farm eh?  200 grams earthworms... you might as well just go and catch them ^^ your garden earthworm will work too. I has personally did it, and i see them eating my shredded office paper like mad, I know that because after one day the garden earthworms moved into my worm bin, i seen lots of bite size(worm bite size) paper bit all over the worm bin, it means that they starting to eat my bedding as soon as them moved in! What is in your mind to to earthworm farming aka vermiculture? for the worm or for the compost? I saw a local shop selling worm compost for RM6 per 1/2 kg package O.o expensive! Thanks to these people who pioneer into the market, next time when we established our worm farm and we can start selling out compost at discounted price! This post has been edited by rexis: May 24 2008, 11:27 AM
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mIssfROGY
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May 24 2008, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ May 19 2008, 08:27 AM) i am currently talking to a friend who has a plot of land empty for agriculture. will provide more update later...  ehzz....i tot u oredi got land geh? More land
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mamba
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May 26 2008, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(rexis @ May 24 2008, 11:23 AM) 200 grams earthworms... you might as well just go and catch them ^^ your garden earthworm will work too. I has personally did it, and i see them eating my shredded office paper like mad, I know that because after one day the garden earthworms moved into my worm bin, i seen lots of bite size(worm bite size) paper bit all over the worm bin, it means that they starting to eat my bedding as soon as them moved in! What is in your mind to to earthworm farming aka vermiculture? for the worm or for the compost? I saw a local shop selling worm compost for RM6 per 1/2 kg package O.o expensive! Thanks to these people who pioneer into the market, next time when we established our worm farm and we can start selling out compost at discounted price! compost!  I dont have to wait for compost to "multiply"  IINM, the worm that they use in vermiculture one is redworm(Lumbricus Rebellus). Can we get it around our garden?
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FlamingIT
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May 27 2008, 02:30 AM
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i interested in chinchillas farm...
any1 got jalan?
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rexis
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May 27 2008, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(mamba @ May 26 2008, 09:36 PM) compost!  I dont have to wait for compost to "multiply"  IINM, the worm that they use in vermiculture one is redworm(Lumbricus Rebellus). Can we get it around our garden? That is they being particular with the "red worm". Redworms, either Eisenia foetida or Lumbricus rubellus, neither of them are native worms of malaysia, hence most likely you cant find them in your garden. What i am trying to say is, you can use your garden worm, ie, normal regular common cacing, for your worm box too.
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mamba
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May 27 2008, 09:46 AM
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Okies.. I've seen the one they use in vermiculture, quite big and long! The farmer said he paid Orang Asli to find them in the forest. Will do as u said, Malaysia cacing Boleh also!
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rexis
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May 27 2008, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(mamba @ May 27 2008, 09:46 AM) Okies.. I've seen the one they use in vermiculture, quite big and long! The farmer said he paid Orang Asli to find them in the forest. Will do as u said, Malaysia cacing Boleh also!  Now.... tell me how can I find this farmer ^^ Local worms are recommended because as a "bumiputera"(native) cacing: - it will not cause any ecological issue like displacing native earthworm - it will adapt to the local climate - locally available also: - you can bring them up like red worms, market them as a more capable earthworm and get a quick buck from early emerging market.
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KELVINHENG
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May 27 2008, 11:39 AM
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Good day to all members!!!
There will be a seminar at Selayang Mall on Swiftlet Ecology PARK Krai in Selayang Mall, level 4, on
31st may 2008 and 1st June 2008, Time 2pm to 5pm
Admission RM 98.00 inclusive of 2 swiftlet cd ( External and Internal) High Tea will be serve.
Interested Please call :
016-3063 619 Kelvin Heng
or log in into www.pearlnest.com
Added on June 1, 2008, 9:35 pmGood day to all members!!!
There will be a seminar at Selayang Mall on Swiftlet Ecology PARK Krai 2 in Selayang Mall, level 4, on
7th June and 8th June 2008, Time 2pm to 5pm
Admission RM 98.00 inclusive of 2 swiftlet cd ( External and Internal) High Tea will be serve.
Interested Please call :
016-3063 619 Kelvin Heng
or log in into www.pearlnest.com
This post has been edited by KELVINHENG: Jun 1 2008, 09:35 PM
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kenredztom
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Jun 5 2008, 04:56 PM
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New Member
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 anyone that can pass me some pointers on leech cultivation? any sample business plan?
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FlamingIT
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Jun 19 2008, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(kenredztom @ Jun 5 2008, 04:56 PM)  anyone that can pass me some pointers on leech cultivation? any sample business plan? leech good!! japan use to do facial.. correct? btw ROTI JOHN u doing cacing tanah? interested here when can pay a visit?
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rexis
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Jun 20 2008, 08:47 AM
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ROTI JOHN is into vermiculture, you can refer to him. Pros and cons up and down of earthworm and earthworm poo has been well described in this thread, hopefully you find the reading useful. Note that if you able to produce high quality worm compost with vermiculture, it is quite a ready market out there! Meanwhile, I am still looking to rent some cheap property to carry out my projects. Should you be interested about further details, go thru my siggy This post has been edited by rexis: Jun 20 2008, 08:56 AM
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mazda626
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Jul 1 2008, 01:17 AM
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Hi there.......i am newbie here but always following the tread since page 1. Need some tips where to have a course about arowana biz ? Have check with Unit Ikan Perhiasan in Perak but no reply till todate. Hope all the agro 'sifu' willing to assist. I have start my own but just a "backyard scale" in fibertank since 6 mths ago.
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rexis
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Jul 1 2008, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(mazda626 @ Jul 1 2008, 01:17 AM) Hi there.......i am newbie here but always following the tread since page 1. Need some tips where to have a course about arowana biz ? Have check with Unit Ikan Perhiasan in Perak but no reply till todate. Hope all the agro 'sifu' willing to assist. I have start my own but just a "backyard scale" in fibertank since 6 mths ago. Perhaps I can try to look around my agroworld magazine library for any arowana or exotic fish breeding? I think I seen a few articles before but not too sure if they are in details. Get back to u soon.
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Michael J.
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Jul 1 2008, 05:25 PM
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Which type of arowana you're planning to breed? As far as I know, Golden Aros need to have CITES certification and permit to rear, breed, and trade them. Silver and Pearls still do not require CITES documents.
I have a suggestion: Why not try applying for a job with Qian Hu or Xian Leng? Both of them have permission to breed arowanas, and both of them are the experts in their fields. Don't need to apply as breeder, even just a normal assistant also can de. But do lots of PR and show lots of interest. Apart from that, there are a number of great books about breeding arowanas that you can get from MPH or Amazon.
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mazda626
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Jul 2 2008, 02:24 AM
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Hi thanks Bro Rexis. FYI i have ask a help/assistance from Gov for leaseland for earthpond purposes but they reply that i must have a course cert. 4 it. Checking highlow for the course but no avail.
Mike, i am afraid both farms unable to pay me ha ha ha...for friendship sake, i have pretty Okay daytime job he he he . Abt the permit that can be obtain in near future. basically there are so many good breeders around as well BUT keeping low profile, i just need a little secret trade in terms of technical aspect thanks bro.....remember brother ParaOptical saying....ACTION.
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Michael J.
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Jul 2 2008, 04:48 PM
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Mmm... I asked Jabatan Perikanan before about courses and training etc., and they said they could arrange for it should there be a sizeable number of participants. But "sizeable" here was about 30 people.... that, was insane.
Yea... there are a number of really good aro breeders. I know some of them too. But if you're just breeding for the sake of breeding, then that's fine la... Just as long as you keep a very low profile. CITES is very dangerous man... Not long ago, a guy in the orchid trade got arrested for possesing and breeding wild Paphiopedilum orchids (Slipper Orchids) that had been in his family for more than 50 years (before CITES was even enforced). The arguement CITES officers had were he could not prove that the internationally protected plant had been in his family's possesion for 50 years, and that he had no permit to keep, breed, or trade the plants. They took everything, put him in jail for 2 months, and fined him about 5 thousand dollars.
Maybe this would be a good time to bring up what CITES really is... CITES is short for Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species. Malaysia is a member of this international convention too. Now the laws governing CITES is extremely complex and few lawyers can understand and interpret the laws. But generally, the law forbids the trade in any part of the endangered species listed. And by trade, it does not just refer to the buying and selling of the species, but also the movement and relocation of these species from their original habitat. If you have CITES certified species, and you plan on breeding and propagating the species, then it is fine according to CITES law, as long as you do not trade them, i.e. exchange, sell, relocate, or even release back into the former habitat.
So anyone planning on doing an agrobusiness related to such species, please be aware about this, especially orchids which are native to Malaysia. They may be common around where we stay, but they could be listed under CITES too.
I used to breed betta sp. (Fighting Fish), and I especially loved breeding the wild types. But after finding out that many of those I had were CITES redlisted, I passed them on to certified breeders. The hammer has not fallen on betta breeders, especially those breeding wild types, but if CITES gets a whiff of this, they'll be all over us. So in a nutshell, just be careful if you intend on breeding endangered species.
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mazda626
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Jul 2 2008, 10:23 PM
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Thanks bro mike, really appreciated the infor & knowledge.... Added on July 2, 2008, 10:44 pmQUOTE(mazda626 @ Jul 2 2008, 10:23 PM) Thanks bro mike, really appreciated the infor & knowledge.... Additional information : http://www.cites.org/common/reg/cb/malaysia.htmlSenarai reg arowana breeders in Mlaysia. This post has been edited by mazda626: Jul 2 2008, 10:44 PM
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ah_suknat
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Jul 3 2008, 07:08 PM
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hi guys I am new to this thread.  I want to ask what is the most lucrative products these days? or what will be the hot product in the future? I am going to move into rural area in the next 2 years, my father is a farmer now, growing vegetables.  I am now working in UK, save enough money to buy some lands, planning to change my career as a farmer as well.  I am now thinking of doing swiftlets farming, poultry and goats herding. any other ideas?  oh btw the place that I am going to move into is in Ranau Sabah, close to Mt Kinabalu.  most of the people there are farmers as well.
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mazda626
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Jul 4 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 3 2008, 07:08 PM) hi guys I am new to this thread.  I want to ask what is the most lucrative products these days? or what will be the hot product in the future? I am going to move into rural area in the next 2 years, my father is a farmer now, growing vegetables.  I am now working in UK, save enough money to buy some lands, planning to change my career as a farmer as well.  I am now thinking of doing swiftlets farming, poultry and goats herding. any other ideas?  oh btw the place that I am going to move into is in Ranau Sabah, close to Mt Kinabalu.  most of the people there are farmers as well. Hi there, Ranau Sabah is a highland smaltown with cold weather beb. If U experienced Swansea then U should know......if U from Sandakan going to KK via inland transit then Ranau will be at your right hand side, snake road, nice view of MT Kinabalu especially around 6am till 11am. After 11am mist will covering your view. Nice people and nice town to reside, trust me. KK to Ranau by road abt 2 hrs. From Sandakan to Ranau abt 5 hrs. Ranau suitable for = All type flowers, rose flowers, apple, orchids. My friend doing well with "kobis", hotel or chalet biz.....i am sure U will doing U millions in Ranau at no time as long as there are "action".
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ah_suknat
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Jul 4 2008, 02:53 AM
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hi mazda626, you'r sabahan too? Yeah I know Ranau quite well, my kampung is in Kundasang  just that I grew up in KK. btw I am a dude.  resort biz cost millions  bed and breakfast may be possible.
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