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rexis
post Mar 31 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Mar 31 2008, 11:43 AM)
hi there i am waiting my bro transfer me the pics, will update here as soon as i get the pics..btw what can i say is , the worm farm really clean, and wont have any stink smell
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Btw where is the worm farm? Is it in Kajang? Never realized theres such farm hidden in Kajang!

So ROTiJOHN have you purchased any cacing from the worm guy yet? How was it?
TSParaOpticaL
post Mar 31 2008, 05:24 PM

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so anymore joining for the gathering ?

its this coming weekend.
cant wait for it biggrin.gif

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post Apr 1 2008, 09:35 AM

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MJ, you are teh man, rclxms.gif exactly that nobody can stand in our way, not even boss.

and OMG OMG OMG i got one survival here!!! My 2nd batch chili got one sprout!!!! biggrin.gif

Survival rate... 10% biggrin.gif

So total how many people? 7?

So method of gathering is to look for those folks with that agri shine in their eyes in nando's at the time stated above...
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post Apr 1 2008, 03:53 PM

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ermmm i can definately make it oredi biggrin.gif
thing is horr.....i dunno nuts.. hope u guys dun mind...oh well
TSParaOpticaL
post Apr 1 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Apr 1 2008, 03:53 PM)
ermmm i can definately make it oredi biggrin.gif
thing is horr.....i dunno nuts.. hope u guys dun mind...oh well
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welcome to have you onboard... biggrin.gif
i will be there about 15 mins early...can SMS me...
Michael J.
post Apr 1 2008, 05:20 PM

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Haha... Rexis my brother, good good... in that case you better look after the fella man... 3 months later I'll be waiting to receive some fresh seeds.... XD...! So, do you still want the Tabasco seeds? Word of caution though... the fella is actually a rather huge plant. Didn't read the fine print where it said it grows to almost 5 feet....

missfroggy, don't worry lar... we all also still learning one... Ancora Imparo mar...

Ok then, see you guys this Saturday.
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post Apr 1 2008, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Apr 1 2008, 05:20 PM)
Haha... Rexis my brother, good good... in that case you better look after the fella man... 3 months later I'll be waiting to receive some fresh seeds.... XD...! So, do you still want the Tabasco seeds? Word of caution though... the fella is actually a rather huge plant. Didn't read the fine print where it said it grows to almost 5 feet....

missfroggy, don't worry lar... we all also still learning one... Ancora Imparo mar...

Ok then, see you guys this Saturday.
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bro am i reading this right ?

YOU are COMING ?
Michael J.
post Apr 1 2008, 07:16 PM

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yep i am.... why the expression lar? o.O?
ROTiJOHN
post Apr 1 2008, 11:41 PM

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Hi here is the pic i promise to post up last few days.
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The earthworm farm

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The container with cow poo,it don have smell at all..very clean

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Earthworm condo, use to produce the earthworm here

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The vermicompost pool..
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QUOTE(Michael J. @ Apr 1 2008, 07:16 PM)
yep i am.... why the expression lar? o.O?
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Consider it as a overexcited reaction. Sort of like a fella on 2 bag of 3in1 434 monalisa coffee in one cup.

Chewing thru some nice wormy pic... laterz

Replying ROTiJOHN post so everyone get to see the pic here.

QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Apr 1 2008, 11:41 PM)
Hi here is the pic i promise to post up last few days.
user posted image
The earthworm farm

user posted image
The container with cow poo,it don have smell at all..very clean

user posted image
Earthworm condo, use to produce the earthworm here

user posted image
The vermicompost pool..
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It looks like Zaman the worm captain is pretty well established there!

I am thinking about renting a cheap property(below 400) to rear earthworm with large plastic containers. Para, my figures earlier might be over exaggerated, 100kg worm for a room might be too much, but how about rearing 200kg of worm in a small apartment, i am sure it is not too packed isnt it. So assume you produce 1/3 of the biomass weight worth of castings:

you would collect...
2000kg worm casting, give 500 utility 400 rental, you got over 1k profit if you sell them at only RM1 per kg. Add a small packaging facility(plastic bag and the sealing heater), and make 1kg package and sell for RM2 per pak.. and that is without sunshine, part time(just grin food scrap and feed), weekend for packing and harvesting.

Seriously, is it really that good?
(btw, got pic showing spaghetti of worms ah?)

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TSParaOpticaL
post Apr 2 2008, 09:15 AM

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Rexis : bring it up on saturday... biggrin.gif

btw this saturday i will be there bit early as there is an expo there at Mid-Valley
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post Apr 2 2008, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(rexis @ Apr 2 2008, 08:35 AM)
Consider it as a overexcited reaction. Sort of like a fella on 2 bag of 3in1 434 monalisa coffee in one cup.

Chewing thru some nice wormy pic... laterz

Replying ROTiJOHN post so everyone get to see the pic here.
It looks like Zaman the worm captain is pretty well established there!

I am thinking about renting a cheap property(below 400) to rear earthworm with large plastic containers. Para, my figures earlier might be over exaggerated, 100kg worm for a room might be too much, but how about rearing 200kg of worm in a small apartment, i am sure it is not too packed isnt it. So assume you produce 1/3 of the biomass weight worth of castings:

you would collect...
2000kg worm casting, give 500 utility 400 rental, you got over 1k profit if you sell them at only RM1 per kg. Add a small packaging facility(plastic bag and the sealing heater), and make 1kg package and sell for RM2 per pak.. and that is without sunshine, part time(just grin food scrap and feed), weekend for packing and harvesting.

Seriously, is it really that good?
(btw, got pic showing spaghetti of worms ah?)
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Alamak the worms pic need to wait for my mom's camera.Btw i got another's friend's dad involve in this business..i going visit his farm in few weeks later, he stay in Kluang..kakaka..
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post Apr 2 2008, 02:38 PM

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mmm.... interesting... looks like a viable venture, but how good is the market lei? I know castings are used in high value ornamentals as potting media (because "soils" cannot be exported; nothing said about earthworm poop). Frankly speaking, I have not seen earthworm castings being sold on an as-is basis lor.... only one company that is well know is Vermicast, yet they too have limited local volume. Most goes for organic crop and ornamentals.

It'd be nice to explore this avenue.
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post Apr 2 2008, 02:42 PM

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can i join for the meeting? blush.gif

i'm totally a noob but i want to learn more..

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post Apr 2 2008, 03:19 PM

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Mmm... I feel that vermicompost is more suitable for leaf production lei... I just cross-checked some of our initial analysis... high Nitrogen content wor.... Meaning good for leafy vegetables, ornamentals and such. Now it all makes sense, because I found vermicompost being used for cacti and terrestrial orchids.
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QUOTE(wheimeng @ Apr 2 2008, 02:42 PM)
can i join for the meeting?  blush.gif

i'm totally a noob but i want to learn more..
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anyone and everyone is welcomed to join.

please reply to my PM. thanks
ROTiJOHN
post Apr 2 2008, 06:54 PM

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Captain zaman said vermicompost can be use in any plant. Btw my brother had try it on his oil palm tree, will give some review next few days..cheers.
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Leaf production or nursery.

ROTiJOHN is visiting all the vermi farm everywhere ler, time for our agri club to organize some farm visit?

Kluang... a bit far.

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Vermiculture produces worm casting and worm, too bad we cant charge people for processing waste.

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post Apr 3 2008, 10:05 AM

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I didn't say vermicompost cannot be used for plants in general, or can be used only for certain plants per se; all I said was that it is more suitable for leafy plants due to the high nitrogen content. Nitrogen influences leaf/flower production, whereas potassium influences fruit formation. So for nursery plants, since you want the plants to have green and healthy leaves and beautiful flowers, then the high nitrogen fertilizer will be more suitable. Same goes for leafy vegetables like cabbage etc. But if you want good fruit set and better fruit qualities, say for cucumbers or chilies, then you need a fertilizer that has higher potassium content. I don't know about his fertilizer nutrient content, but the one we've analyzed has a ratio of 8:1 for nitrogen and potassium. That's pretty bad if used for fruit setting; the normal ratio is 8:5. Since the sample we have is cow manure based, just the same as Capt. Zaman's, I would imagine the ratio wouldn't run too far off.
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i really dunno have this tread. thumbup.gif
can learn alot things in here.

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