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Kg Teratai
post Feb 7 2018, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Feb 7 2018, 01:21 AM)
Where is yr location? No water. Dont waste resources.

5acre too little for banana getting substantial return.
Papaya no water cant.

Limau maybe but pricing fluctuates. Ciku no idea.
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It is in Johor.

The reason I want to choose banana is as a short term plan and it can cover for durian tree from the hot sun. As long there is little bit of return, It will be good.

the 3-5 years fruit will be either pomelo, limau or ciku. I have not make the choice yet.


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post Feb 7 2018, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Feb 7 2018, 09:36 AM)
1. I will use mix organic and chemical fertilizers. The farm have been left unattended for quite a long time already. It will definitely have to invest in the fertilizers. The oil palm tree will be cut down and put at the side of the farm. The oil palm root will be taken out from the land also.

2. Water. Yes. this is a my big concern. Initially I am thinking of underground water, but I drop the idea because of future. This land used to plan durian tree before oil palm. I believe durian can survive unless it is a long dry session. It is the short term fruit tree. I need to find those short term fruit tree that do not require high volume of water.

Currently, I am still checking if there is water supply from Syabas. It used to have a village near by.
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Ok. Water can take from SAJ (Water Agency for Johor). Can apply and pay small amount of fees. If too far, they may charge you more. I forgot, but did apply for TNB and water at Pahang last year. They come in few weeks time to install since it is about 1km from nearby main pipe. The guy told me if they need to install from far away, then it takes months for their budget approval.


QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Feb 7 2018, 10:01 AM)
It is in Johor.

The reason I want to choose banana is as a short term plan and it can cover for durian tree from the hot sun. As long there is little bit of return, It will be good.

the 3-5 years fruit will be either pomelo, limau or ciku. I have not make the choice yet.
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Banana is ok and quick, but another challenge is the pest and fungus. One farmer advice me to take directly from MARDI centre at Klang, more resistant and can harvest additional 2 to 3 times before effect of the resistant wears off. Then you need to buy again from them. I think the cost is about RM 2 for one baby tree, takes about 7 to 1 year to have first fruit. You need to keep the first sprout, and cut the remaining sprouts. That way, you can have another harvest 1 year 5/6 months from the day you plant. Do drip system and switch on daily for 2 hours (morning and evening).

~From MARDI officer at Serdang told me this~

If you are doing personally (not company), you can request for support from nearby Pejabat Pertanian - they can support banana trees for up to 2 acres. Join local association for additional fund from government.
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:43 AM

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any comments on planting pineapple on 5ha ?

mix of palm oil & unused land beside river.

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kamilnu
post Feb 8 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Feb 6 2018, 05:19 PM)
I am planning to replant my 5 acres oil palm to durian. While waiting for the durian tree to grow. I also plan to have the short term chops

Less than 1 year
1. Banana.
2. Papaya.

3-4 years
1. Limau
2. Ciku

May I know if there is any others short term chops that is available?

The main concern is no water run thru my farm.
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Well hello there fellow durian farmer. I have 4.7 acres of land in Tapah, Perak Jln Cameron Highlands. Its basically an unkept dusun. I plan to start planting 110 durian trees combined of D200, D197, D168, D24 and durian kampung. Now land clearing.

What i can advice is drill a tube well for water source. U need to remove all the sawit trees prior bcos the durian saplings will lose out to the sawit trees (sawit trees sucks a lot of nutrients/fertilizer from the soil). They are hungry trees those sawits.

As for short term crops for cash flow my friend plants papaya in his sawit farm. Not beside the sawit trees but a dedicated area cleared for sawit. The issue now is wild boars and diseases. Wild boar u need to dig a trench and fill it with water. Beside the trench pile the sawit tandan, leaves that acts as a 2nd barrier against the wild boars. Ur papaya area shall be square shape with the trench along it.

U need to find resistant papaya seedling bcos papaya normallly prone to fusarium wilt and other type of fungus/viruses. Go to MARDI for the papaya seedling.

Send ur soil for a soil test, some sawit farms have masam soil, not good for durian.

Dont listen to other people laa. These folks dont know anything about farming. Let the pros talk maa.

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post Feb 8 2018, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(kamilnu @ Feb 8 2018, 01:19 PM)
Well hello there fellow durian farmer. I have 4.7 acres of land in Tapah, Perak Jln Cameron Highlands. Its basically an unkept dusun. I plan to start planting 110 durian trees combined of D200, D197, D168, D24 and durian kampung. Now land clearing.

What i can advice is drill a tube well for water source. U need to remove all the sawit trees prior bcos the durian saplings will lose out to the sawit trees (sawit trees sucks a lot of nutrients/fertilizer from the soil). They are hungry trees those sawits.

As for short term crops for cash flow my friend plants papaya in his sawit farm. Not beside the sawit trees but a dedicated area cleared for sawit. The issue now is wild boars and diseases. Wild boar u need to dig a trench and fill it with water. Beside the trench pile the sawit tandan, leaves that acts as a 2nd barrier against the wild boars. Ur papaya area shall be square shape with the trench along it.

U need to find resistant papaya seedling bcos papaya normallly prone to fusarium wilt and other type of fungus/viruses. Go to MARDI for the papaya seedling.

Send ur soil for a soil test, some sawit farms have masam soil, not good for durian.

Dont listen to other people laa. These folks dont know anything about farming. Let the pros talk maa.
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post Feb 9 2018, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(kamilnu @ Feb 8 2018, 01:19 PM)
Well hello there fellow durian farmer. I have 4.7 acres of land in Tapah, Perak Jln Cameron Highlands. Its basically an unkept dusun. I plan to start planting 110 durian trees combined of D200, D197, D168, D24 and durian kampung. Now land clearing.

What i can advice is drill a tube well for water source. U need to remove all the sawit trees prior bcos the durian saplings will lose out to the sawit trees (sawit trees sucks a lot of nutrients/fertilizer from the soil). They are hungry trees those sawits.

As for short term crops for cash flow my friend plants papaya in his sawit farm. Not beside the sawit trees but a dedicated area cleared for sawit. The issue now is wild boars and diseases. Wild boar u need to dig a trench and fill it with water. Beside the trench pile the sawit tandan, leaves that acts as a 2nd barrier against the wild boars. Ur papaya area shall be square shape with the trench along it.

U need to find resistant papaya seedling bcos papaya normallly prone to fusarium wilt and other type of fungus/viruses. Go to MARDI for the papaya seedling.

Send ur soil for a soil test, some sawit farms have masam soil, not good for durian.

Dont listen to other people laa. These folks dont know anything about farming. Let the pros talk maa.
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4.7 acres for 110 tree, it will be very wide open.

Well tube is one of the option before, however, i am trying not to use the underground water. Overuse of underground water is not an environmental friendly option.

I will clear of all the sawit in the farm. Therefore, sawit will no be an issue for me.

The wild boar and monkey are not problem for my farm.

I will go Mardi to ask about the seeding.

Thank you.
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post Feb 9 2018, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Feb 9 2018, 04:39 PM)
4.7 acres for 110 tree, it will be very wide open.

Well tube is one of the option before, however, i am trying not to use the underground water. Overuse of underground water is not an environmental friendly option.

I will clear of all the sawit in the farm. Therefore, sawit will no be an issue for me.

The wild boar and monkey are not problem for my farm.

I will go Mardi to ask about the seeding.

Thank you.
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MARDI recommends 35 durian trees for every 1 acre. I'm going for a lower ratio than that bcos i also want to plant other fruit trees and also a space for the farm house.

Good luck in ur agro endeavour my farming friend. Its time that we plan for the future and leave the rat race and the corporate drone life. Drop me a PM, maybe we can talk and share details.

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Kg Teratai
post Feb 12 2018, 11:42 AM

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I can see you have different strategy by having different crops in your farm. It is good choice also.

If you really experience the durian price in 2002-2005, you will know how it feel when the durian price drop.
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post Feb 12 2018, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Kg Teratai @ Feb 12 2018, 11:42 AM)
I can see you have different strategy by having different crops in your farm. It is good choice also.

If you really experience the durian price in 2002-2005, you will know how it feel when the durian price drop.
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Everthing has its up and down.....including durian prices. In those days it was because of the flooding of thailand durians into this country. My happened again. I plan for export, lower grade we sell locally to the poor malaysian public at prevailing market price.

In the future, eating fruits are for the folks with money, u will see. No money eat kangkong maa

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Kg Teratai
post Feb 13 2018, 11:06 AM

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Well, all we can do the best, hope for the good return.
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post Feb 28 2018, 08:49 AM

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Reporting in - new farmer from formerly rat racer.

Farm stats - 20 acre filled with old oil palm trees (Need a lot of fert)

Have a capital of RM 100k (budgeted) , but no idea what to do with it, may experienced farmers give some ideas?


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post Feb 28 2018, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Oct 9 2017, 10:43 AM)
Yes. It is easy to DIY. However, from my humble knowledge of nothing, I am afraid of the material. Many like to use PVC etc for Hydroponic/Aquaponic. I do not know the long term effect of the material which will absorb by plants which might be toxic for human. Meanwhile, the material use specially for hydroponic are quite expensive compares to you buy the pipes etc.
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Need to add in, once you plant a lot, then new problem will arise
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post Mar 1 2018, 10:59 PM

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wow this thread springing to life again!
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post Mar 16 2018, 09:29 AM

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Dear all, do you have any experience in renting land?, having quite a PITA problem here
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post Mar 16 2018, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Mar 16 2018, 09:29 AM)
Dear all, do you have any experience in renting land?, having quite a PITA problem here
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post May 23 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Avatarchick @ May 22 2018, 03:06 PM)
Dear all, anyone know how to plant mangosteen?
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buy grafted plant from nursery.
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post Jun 11 2018, 03:23 PM

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do anyone here uses liquid seaweed ?
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post Aug 5 2018, 05:57 PM

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With the oversupply of durians lately. What is the future prospect of growing this fruit? Will there still be a demand for it?

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post Aug 5 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(lopo90 @ Aug 5 2018, 05:57 PM)
With the oversupply of durians lately. What is the future prospect of growing this fruit? Will there still be a demand for it?

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imho demand is there. only the price will keep on fluctuating. see video in youtube. some of the durian orchard owners have been planting it since 1980s. it’s a long term investment.
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post Aug 5 2018, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(powerbarr @ Aug 5 2018, 06:04 PM)
imho demand is there. only the price will keep on fluctuating. see video in youtube. some of the durian orchard owners have been planting it since 1980s. it’s a long term investment.
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Oh alright. Hows the durian business so far for you?

 

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