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post Aug 23 2016, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 03:56 PM)
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What do you want to be when you grow up?


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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 03:52 PM)
Don't expect to work in biotech when you're done with university. There are close to none relevant jobs in biotech in the country

It simply means, when you graduate, you'll just look for some random job....sales job, office admin job, promoter, credit card agent whatever job that doesn't require any specific degree.

SG? If you are a new graduate out of USM, you will not be able to work in SG unless you get a role that pays you $4k which is almost improbable given that there are NUS grads looking for those roles too.

If interest is still telling you to study biotech....then go ahead but you have been warned.

In Msia, the best roles are still in O&G, followed by banking and finance. In 3-4 years, no one knows how the oil market will be, if you graduate like those who did so in 2011-2012....then you will be lucky, if you just finish a degree in petroleum engineering now.....really kanasai now.
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O&G not so interested.... banking that one confirmed I dont like.....
no other roles beside this two? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 04:00 PM)
What do you want to be when you grow up?
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not engineer(except biotech engineer),businessman or work in bank.
I want a job which is related to biology such as doctor,scientist notworthy.gif
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post Aug 23 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 04:01 PM)
O&G not so interested.... banking that one confirmed I dont like.....
no other roles beside this two? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Within the Msian context, these are the best jobs for new graduates.

Of course not everybody in Msia study these two courses only, many still do other things. Their trajectories are also different. By that I mean, it took some of them 5 years plus to earn RM5k per mth, while some earns RM11k after 3 years. Some other earns in excess of RM20k on average per month because of investment in financial markets within 4-5 years.

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 04:04 PM)
not engineer(except biotech engineer),businessman or work in bank.
I want a job which is related to biology such as doctor,scientist notworthy.gif
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Then you have your answer....either you do medicine or you go all in to get your PhD in biosciences.

At your stage, it's difficult to say if you would want to do a PhD.........you have not even experienced university yet.....and to spend 10 years in university....may not be for everyone.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 04:10 PM)
Then you have your answer....either you do medicine or you go all in to get your PhD in biosciences.

At your stage, it's difficult to say if you would want to do a PhD.........you have not even experienced university yet.....and to spend 10 years in university....may not be for everyone.
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any difference between degree or phd later if i come out from uni?If got phd can get a job related to bio but degree cant? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 04:11 PM)
any difference between degree or phd later if i come out from uni?If got phd can get a job related to bio but degree cant? hmm.gif
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Nope.....

When it comes to the market in general, a degree is the same as a PhD.

If you are talking about a research position in industry, then a PhD is required but these roles are non-existent in Msia. Even in SG they are rare. You will need to go to developed countries for these roles. They are usually R&D positions of corporations which means, they do not operate in Msia or any emerging economies.
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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 02:05 PM)
I get 4A for my a level
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No a*?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 23 2016, 05:28 PM)
No a*?
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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 05:09 PM)
Nope.....

When it comes to the market in general, a degree is the same as a PhD.

If you are talking about a research position in industry, then a PhD is required but these roles are non-existent in Msia. Even in SG they are rare. You will need to go to developed countries for these roles. They are usually R&D positions of corporations which means, they do not operate in Msia or any emerging economies.
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confused.gif if I get a phd then i can find a job in usa uk etc?
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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 05:54 PM)
confused.gif if I get a phd then i can find a job in usa uk etc?
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Yes and no. At this stage, I say with confidence No. It's a long shot.

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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 06:01 PM)
Yes and no. At this stage, I say with confidence No. It's a long shot.
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dry.gif ............
so worry about my future now.How about food and nutrition degree?should have a lot of job oppurtunity since a lot of food kilang here right?
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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 06:09 PM)
dry.gif ............
so worry about my future now.How about food and nutrition degree?should have a lot of job oppurtunity since a lot of food kilang here right?
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Then you will really end up nowhere.

Dont worry too much. Just do well in whatever degree that you like.

While doing your degree, build your competency in programming, digital trends and brush up on some financial literary and communication skills. If you have these sort of skills, you'll be prepared for a lot of jobs.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 06:12 PM)
Then you will really end up nowhere.

Dont worry too much. Just do well in whatever degree that you like.

While doing your degree, build your competency in programming, digital trends and brush up on some financial literary and communication skills. If you have these sort of skills, you'll be prepared for a lot of jobs.
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hmm.gif I dont get it,why programming?You mean prepare for other job when I finish university? confused.gif
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hmm.gif I dont get it,why programming?You mean prepare for other job when I finish university? confused.gif
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If you don't get it then you should start googling why


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QUOTE(feynman @ Aug 23 2016, 06:26 PM)
If you don't get it then you should start googling why
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let me google first,if I still dont know then I ask u again tonight

edit: is it because of bioengineering or genome(too many need use program to assist in research)?

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Aug 23 2016, 04:04 PM)
I want a job which is related to biology such as doctor,scientist notworthy.gif
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There is very little biology in medicine...
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 23 2016, 06:31 PM)
There is very little biology in medicine...
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more chemistry element in it?I am okay with chemistry as well.Just physics make me felt dumb.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 23 2016, 06:58 PM

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update:got two 100% scholarship for mckl alumni which is from UCSI and KDU.
KDU is not my option since they only offer life science related course for me..
UCSI is famous for their hospitality course (my friend told me),can anyone confirm this?
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post Aug 23 2016, 08:03 PM

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a sound foundation in all sciences is an essential asset for medical studies....not just biology, or chemistry...

your 4a at a levels will be enough to get into any ipts med school, since the minimum is only a dismally low bbb....but will not get you into ipta, nor singapore...

feynman is telling you to get basic life skills, which is more important than any knowledge you acquire in uni....as the majority of people do NOT use what they learn in uni, when they work....(exception is of course, professional courses)...

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