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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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terence_nwb
post Dec 14 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(zacktan @ Dec 14 2016, 06:55 PM)
hi terence, can the RAM be upgraded to 16gb? can the rig support it?
im only using for net surfing, watching movie..

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Yes, max is 32GB for this board.

QUOTE(thelung @ Dec 14 2016, 07:01 PM)
Hello sifus..

My fren just bought this Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming.. unfortunately he cant fit it in his current case doh.gif  doh.gif .. could anyone suggest a budget case for this GC?

would <RM 250 do for this purpose? icon_question.gif

thank you!
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Looking for which form factor?
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post Dec 14 2016, 07:17 PM

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RM3700 budget can get i7 + gtx 1070 in itx form factor?

only need cpu,gpu,mobo,psu,hdd,casing.

Things that could re-use old FSP 500W not confident if it have enough juice and reliability cos of age. Also hdd could be re-used but also age.

Old pc have been using 4-5 years I think, time for an upgrade. Any help is much appreciated thanks!


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post Dec 14 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2016, 07:04 PM)
Yes, max is 32GB for this board.
Looking for which form factor?
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hello terrence.. i think his mobo is standard atx form.


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post Dec 14 2016, 07:40 PM

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can anyone suggest me below RM3K mATX gaming desktop consist of this,

i5 processor & gtx 1050 ti

Thanks! rclxms.gif
terence_nwb
post Dec 14 2016, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(afeeqo120 @ Dec 14 2016, 07:17 PM)
RM3700 budget can get i7 + gtx 1070 in itx form factor?

only need cpu,gpu,mobo,psu,hdd,casing.

Things that could re-use old FSP 500W not confident if it have enough juice and reliability cos of age. Also hdd could be re-used but also age.

Old pc have been using 4-5 years I think, time for an upgrade. Any help is much appreciated thanks!
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Not possible, PSU and HDD must be in re-use list to make it happen, this is because i7 6700 and cheapest GTX1070 already cost RM 1.4k and RM 1.8k respectively, you left RM 500 for the rest of the parts (8GB RAM + cheapest mITX mobo will take all the budget left) sweat.gif

QUOTE(thelung @ Dec 14 2016, 07:36 PM)
hello terrence.. i think his mobo is standard atx form.
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Tecware Alpha then (around RM 220), nice looking case with plenty of clearance available for long GPU.
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QUOTE(jajaosyaz @ Dec 14 2016, 07:40 PM)
can anyone suggest me below RM3K mATX gaming desktop consist of this,

i5 processor & gtx 1050 ti

Thanks! rclxms.gif
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Just the rig or whole set?
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post Dec 14 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2016, 12:55 PM)
Just the rig or whole set?
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The whole set please
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post Dec 14 2016, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 12 2016, 01:24 PM)
Corsair Hydro H100i V2/NZXT Kraken X52/Cryorig A40 Ultimate etc.

Make sure the casing has radiator mounting point and can fit 240L AIO (if cannot then please look for 120L, or if he wants larger size please look for 280L or 360L).
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are the prices for all 3 mentioned AIO coolers above around the same prices ? around 500++ ?
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post Dec 14 2016, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(jajaosyaz @ Dec 14 2016, 07:58 PM)
The whole set please
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 764
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270H - RM 389
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2939 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Dec 14 2016, 08:41 PM)
are the prices for all 3 mentioned AIO coolers above around the same prices ? around 500++ ?
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Nope, Cryorig A40 is the cheapest, then Corsair H100i then NZXT X52.
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post Dec 14 2016, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2016, 01:46 PM)
Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 764
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125
BenQ GW2270H - RM 389
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2939 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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What if just the rig. RM3k for only the rig, + wifi card please. Thanks! rclxms.gif
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post Dec 14 2016, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2016, 07:52 PM)
Not possible, PSU and HDD must be in re-use list to make it happen, this is because i7 6700 and cheapest GTX1070 already cost RM 1.4k and RM 1.8k respectively, you left RM 500 for the rest of the parts (8GB RAM + cheapest mITX mobo will take all the budget left)  sweat.gif
Tecware Alpha then (around RM 220), nice looking case with plenty of clearance available for long GPU.
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post Dec 14 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 14 2016, 08:47 PM)
Nope, Cryorig A40 is the cheapest, then Corsair H100i then NZXT X52.
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oh, ok2, I thought all of them are on the same price range sweat.gif , TQVM bro
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post Dec 14 2016, 10:28 PM

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please recommend a full modular psu for i5 6500, gtx 1060 build

cheaper, reliable is better biggrin.gif
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post Dec 14 2016, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(jajaosyaz @ Dec 14 2016, 10:02 PM)
What if just the rig. RM3k for only the rig, + wifi card please. Thanks!  rclxms.gif
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2 different builds if going this way.

1. GTX1060 6GB
2. GTX1060 3GB + 120GB SSD

First option will give you more frame rates in games.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 764
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 930
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware F3 - RM 125
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45

Total: RM 2956 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Dec 14 2016, 10:28 PM)
please recommend a full modular psu for i5 6500, gtx 1060 build

cheaper, reliable is better biggrin.gif
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The cheapest option should be Superflower Leadex Silver 550W (RM 359, 3 years warranty).

Other recommended options are:
1. Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 429 (5 years warranty)
2. EVGA Supernova 550 G2 - RM 459 (7 years warranty)
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post Dec 15 2016, 02:25 AM

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Hi Sifu.. I need some advise regarding my spec.

Budjet around RM 7.3k Max

Part I need to buy (Motherboard, Processor, GC)
Purposed to used for Gaming , some Work (Illustrator/Photoshop)
Monitor : Dell Ultrasharp U2417H (1080p Gaming Resolution)

I got 2 options in my mind :-

First :
i7-6700k
Asus Maximus Formula (1151)
Asus GTX 1080 OC

Second :
i7-6800k
Asus Rampage 10 (x99)
Asus GTX 1070 OC


1) Which options good for my next upgrade ?? (currently i use i5-2500k, gtx 560Ti, Asus p8p67-Pro motherboard)
2) I really need gtx 1080 for gaming ?? or 1070 will be good enof ?? (seem like for now i gonna use it for play game at resolution 1080p)
3) i7-6700k and i7-6800k ?? big different ?? Should i stay 1151socket ? or upgrade to x99 ??

Help me sifu sad.gif .. dilemma... everynight ... keep watch youtube/forum.. really cant help me make my decision. either first (1) option / second (2) option
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QUOTE(xrain87 @ Dec 15 2016, 02:25 AM)
Hi Sifu.. I need some advise regarding my spec.

Budjet around RM 7.3k Max

Part I need to buy (Motherboard, Processor, GC)
Purposed to used for Gaming , some Work (Illustrator/Photoshop)
Monitor : Dell Ultrasharp U2417H (1080p Gaming Resolution)

I got 2 options in my mind :-

First :
i7-6700k
Asus Maximus Formula (1151)
Asus GTX 1080 OC

Second :
i7-6800k
Asus Rampage 10 (x99)
Asus GTX 1070 OC
1) Which options good for my next upgrade ?? (currently i use i5-2500k, gtx 560Ti, Asus p8p67-Pro motherboard)
2) I really need gtx 1080 for gaming ?? or 1070 will be good enof ?? (seem like for now i gonna use it for play game at resolution 1080p)
3) i7-6700k and i7-6800k ?? big different ?? Should i stay 1151socket ? or upgrade to x99 ??

Help me sifu sad.gif .. dilemma... everynight ... keep watch youtube/forum.. really cant help me make my decision. either first (1) option / second (2) option
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1) First

2) for 1080p gaming, even a 1060 can get you max settings, if you have a plan of upgrading your monitor to 1440p/4k resolution, just get a 1070/1080

3) i7-6700k is sufficient for gaming as 4 cores is enough for games nowadays. Except you will utilize that extra 2 cores from i7-6800k in the future

by opt for my opinion, you can even get a SSD with bigger capacity and save some more cash thumbup.gif
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post Dec 15 2016, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(xrain87 @ Dec 15 2016, 02:25 AM)
Hi Sifu.. I need some advise regarding my spec.

Budjet around RM 7.3k Max

Part I need to buy (Motherboard, Processor, GC)
Purposed to used for Gaming , some Work (Illustrator/Photoshop)
Monitor : Dell Ultrasharp U2417H (1080p Gaming Resolution)

I got 2 options in my mind :-

First :
i7-6700k
Asus Maximus Formula (1151)
Asus GTX 1080 OC

Second :
i7-6800k
Asus Rampage 10 (x99)
Asus GTX 1070 OC
1) Which options good for my next upgrade ?? (currently i use i5-2500k, gtx 560Ti, Asus p8p67-Pro motherboard)
2) I really need gtx 1080 for gaming ?? or 1070 will be good enof ?? (seem like for now i gonna use it for play game at resolution 1080p)
3) i7-6700k and i7-6800k ?? big different ?? Should i stay 1151socket ? or upgrade to x99 ??

Help me sifu sad.gif .. dilemma... everynight ... keep watch youtube/forum.. really cant help me make my decision. either first (1) option / second (2) option
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i7 6800K requires mild overclocking to match the single core performance of i7 6700K thanks to the higher stock clock speed of 6700K, if the apps/games you use is heavy on single core (or single threaded) then 6700K will pull ahead of 6800K in stock speed, 6800K will edge out only when multithreaded operation/process is involved.

If you plan to play games on 1080p resolution only then don't spend too much on GPU, there are various videos showing resolution bottleneck symptoms (1080p) on high end Pascal card on YouTube (like Digital Foundry), you are strongly recommended to DSR to push more graphics details and better image render in games when going for GTX1070/GTX1080 (or higher).
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Dec 15 2016, 02:40 AM)
1) First

2) for 1080p gaming, even a 1060 can get you max settings, if you have a plan of upgrading your monitor to 1440p/4k resolution, just get a 1070/1080

3) i7-6700k is sufficient for gaming as 4 cores is enough for games nowadays. Except you will utilize that extra 2 cores from i7-6800k in the future

by opt for my opinion, you can even get a SSD with bigger capacity and save some more cash  thumbup.gif
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Thank you for feedback

For now. Yea I think i will stay at resolution 1080p for couple years
Seem 4k resolution for computer just to new for me.
And somemore price for 4k monitor in market right now quite expensive for me @.@ the cheapest RM 2k? if not wrong ..
Good 4k monitor come with sync .. exist more then RM 3k (i refer to asus / acer 4k gaming monitor)
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post Dec 15 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 15 2016, 08:53 AM)
i7 6800K requires mild overclocking to match the single core performance of i7 6700K thanks to the higher stock clock speed of 6700K, if the apps/games you use is heavy on single core (or single threaded) then 6700K will pull ahead of 6800K in stock speed, 6800K will edge out only when multithreaded operation/process is involved.

If you plan to play games on 1080p resolution only then don't spend too much on GPU, there are various videos showing resolution bottleneck symptoms (1080p) on high end Pascal card on YouTube (like Digital Foundry), you are strongly recommended to DSR to push more graphics details and better image render in games when going for GTX1070/GTX1080 (or higher).
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Thank brother for explanation.

my purposed use for work, not really required high end processor to work on.
I just use Illustrator, Photoshop for my work.

So in ur own opinion for my problem now.. I should go for i7-6700k right ? (work well on both gaming and workstation ?)

regarding GPU, yea currently i will stay on 1080p monitor.
Seem 4k monitor just to new in market, abit expensive to me.
Maybe i will wait couple year 1~2 year more then just spend on 4k monitor.
So i should get GTX 1080 ?? play awhile with my 1080p monitor, while waiting my 4k monitor ??

I got a silly question / and idea..

should i get gtx 1070 for now.. use it for 2 year until i planning get 4k monitor.
Then that time i resell my gtx 1070 and get better GC at the moment to support my 4k monitor ??

or i just get gtx 1080 for now ? while waiting my 4k monitor. ??

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