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ipin.strike92
post Dec 13 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 13 2016, 01:41 AM)
[Budget] RM5k to 6k

[Purpose] Mainly for works and sometime games like Diablo 3 and Civ 6. Using a gaming laptop now. Want to replace my old desktop rig.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor and some old HDD

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Personal preferences]

Spec
Processor        INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I7-6700K PROCESSOR 1,570.00
Motherboard ASUS H170 PRO GAMING SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD 583.00
Ram                G.SKILL AEGIS SERIES 16GB DDR4 2400MHZ 501.99
SSD                SAMSUNG 850 EVO M.2 250GB SOLID STATE DRIVE 460.00
HDD                WESTERN DIGITAL 3.5” 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III (WD1003FZEX) 374.00
GPU                ASUS GEFORCE GTX 1060 DUAL 6GB GDDR5 192BIT 1,286.00
PSU                Silverstone Strider Gold S-Series 750W Power Supply ST75F-GS 529.00
Casing        NZXT SOURCE 530 FULL TOWER CHASSIS  405.00
Cooler        NOCTUA NH-U12S CPU COOLER FOR AMD & INTEL 299.00
                                                                                Total 6,007.99

Need opinion on these. Which one on my preferences are overkill and not needed? I wish to lower down my budget to 5k if possible.
[Location] KL

Thanks in advance
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With your budget, you can go for GTX 1070 if you change some part.
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post Dec 13 2016, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Dec 13 2016, 02:29 PM)
With your budget, you can go for GTX 1070 if you change some part.
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Any suggestion? I very out of touch with PC parts. Sigh
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post Dec 13 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 13 2016, 06:10 PM)
Any suggestion? I very out of touch with PC parts. Sigh
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WD 1TB 7200RPM shouldn't be that expensive. It should be around RM200-210.
Don't use the 6700K processor on H170 mobo. K processors are for overclocking purpose and you can't overclock 6700K on H170. The suitable mobo chipset is Z170 instead of H170.
Try mid tower chassis such as NZXT s340, slick design, save some costs.
PSU overkill, use a PSU between 550W-650W such as Super Flower Leadex Gold 550/650 @ RM410/RM450.
If you don't want to overclock CPU, use Intel i7 6700 (not K), then stick with H170 mobo.

The amount of cost saved shall get you a GTX 1070.

This post has been edited by lolzcalvin: Dec 13 2016, 11:54 PM
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post Dec 13 2016, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Dec 13 2016, 07:42 PM)
WD 1TB 7200RPM shouldn't be that expensive. It should be around RM200-210.
You cannot use the 6700K processor on H170 mobo. Only Z170 mobo is compatible with LGA1151 unlocked (K) processors.
Try mid tower chassis such as NZXT s340, slick design, save some costs.
PSU overkill, use a PSU between 550W-650W such as Super Flower Leadex Gold 550/650 @ RM410/RM450.
If you don't want to overclock CPU, use Intel i7 6700 (not K), then stick with H170 mobo.

The amount of cost saved shall get you a GTX 1070.
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Yeah, and to add, that ssd is M.2 ssd which is very expensive. Unless you are doing some rendering or heavy editing, you are better off with Kingston SSD like UV400 (around RM300) which is the usual recommendation by sifus here. If you want a quality ssd, go for Samsung 750 evo 250gb which cost around RM349.
For PSU, you can opt for Superflower Leadex Gold 550W or Seasonic M12II evo 620W for RM409, both are solid PSU.
For CPU cooler, a stock one should be fine. If you still want one, can consider CM Hyper 212X or Cryorig H7 both at around RM189.
The HDD that you quote is WD Black 1tb, which is very expensive. You can opt for cheaper HDD like WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda and/or invest more on SSD with bigger capacity.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. U can ask other sifus here though. They helped me a lot when i want to build my first rig.
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post Dec 13 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Dec 13 2016, 01:41 AM)
[Budget] RM5k to 6k

[Purpose] Mainly for works and sometime games like Diablo 3 and Civ 6. Using a gaming laptop now. Want to replace my old desktop rig.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor and some old HDD

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Personal preferences]

Spec
Processor        INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I7-6700K PROCESSOR 1,570.00
Motherboard ASUS H170 PRO GAMING SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD 583.00
Ram                G.SKILL AEGIS SERIES 16GB DDR4 2400MHZ 501.99
SSD                SAMSUNG 850 EVO M.2 250GB SOLID STATE DRIVE 460.00
HDD                WESTERN DIGITAL 3.5” 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III (WD1003FZEX) 374.00
GPU                ASUS GEFORCE GTX 1060 DUAL 6GB GDDR5 192BIT 1,286.00
PSU                Silverstone Strider Gold S-Series 750W Power Supply ST75F-GS 529.00
Casing        NZXT SOURCE 530 FULL TOWER CHASSIS  405.00
Cooler        NOCTUA NH-U12S CPU COOLER FOR AMD & INTEL 299.00
                                                                                Total 6,007.99

Need opinion on these. Which one on my preferences are overkill and not needed? I wish to lower down my budget to 5k if possible.
[Location] KL

Thanks in advance
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Few ways to save money:

1. Get 6700 instead of 6700K if you don't plan to overclock (recommended for your budget and usage).
2. Get Value RAM with 2133MHz speed instead of spending money on high performance RAM (like 2400MHz) which eventually will get downclocked to 2133MHz automatically due to lack of support from chipset (only Z170 supports > 2133MHz).
3. Get a SATA based SSD instead of M.2 unless clearance is an issue, you can save up to RM 150 by going back to SATA form factor.
4. Not necessary need to get 750W, a decent 500W is more than enough for your specs.
5. Aftermarket CPU cooler is not needed for your build (assuming you are going to get 6700).

QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Dec 13 2016, 07:42 PM)
You cannot use the 6700K processor on H170 mobo. Only Z170 mobo is compatible with LGA1151 unlocked (K) processors.
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You can use i7 6700K on H170 mobo, just cannot overclock, meaning it will run on stock 4.0GHz speed (4.2GHz turbo single core).
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post Dec 13 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(black_goat @ Dec 13 2016, 10:52 AM)
Dear sifus, here is my planning
[Budget] 1.5k

[Purpose] web surfing, home use, gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] HDD, speaker, keyboard and mouse, monitor(optional/might as well buy new ones within this budget)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] google chrome, dota 2

Can i get build suggestions with or without monitor for both 1150 and 1151 cpu socket.

[Location]Batu Pahat, Johor.
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The price difference between LGA1150 and LGA1151 is very small and it is not easy to find any new LGA1150 hardware in the market now so I will just use LGA1151 as reference for the build list.

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 240
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133 Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 565
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1578 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(char_les @ Dec 13 2016, 12:12 PM)
Hi,

Please do provide the following info while posting

[B][Budget]

[Purpose]Counter Strike - Global Offensive (main)

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- PSU - Gigabyte - Odin 500w
- Samsung Sync Master 931 BW @ 2ms
- Casing

[Monitor resolution]
- High – 1440 x 900
- Low – 800 x 600

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Steam, BT Thunder, Counterstrike - Global Offensive, fallout, some FPS games like modern warfare.

[Personal preferences] -

[Location] Kuala Lumpur

Proposing ~

CORE i5-6402P  738
MSI - B150M Mortar Arctic 487
Kingston DDR4 4GB  129
Kingston DDR4 4GB  129
ASUS EX GTX1050 - 2GB/128bits 659
Harddisk 1TB  219

2361 / (+-2400)

Is this setup ok ? or is there anything better ?
Thinking to run on existing Windows 7 only.
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Get a cheaper mobo and upgrade the GPU to GTX1050Ti instead.
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post Dec 13 2016, 10:32 PM

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Is it possible to get a 1060 3gb in a 2k build?

[B][Budget] - 2k

[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
monitor,mouse and keyboard.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim, gta5, portal 2

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post Dec 13 2016, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(_x_ @ Dec 13 2016, 10:32 PM)
Is it possible to get a 1060 3gb  in a 2k build?

[B][Budget] - 2k

[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
monitor,mouse and keyboard.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim, gta5, portal 2
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Not possible, even if it fits, it is likely to be bottlecked by the CPU because you can only fit a low end CPU (like dual core G4400) to cater the cost for a GTX1060 3GB. GTX1050Ti is a more appropriate choice.
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post Dec 14 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 13 2016, 09:45 PM)
You can use i7 6700K on H170 mobo, just cannot overclock, meaning it will run on stock 4.0GHz speed (4.2GHz turbo single core).
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Thanks, corrected
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post Dec 14 2016, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 13 2016, 09:51 PM)
The price difference between LGA1150 and LGA1151 is very small and it is not easy to find any new LGA1150 hardware in the market now so I will just use LGA1151 as reference for the build list.

Intel Pentium G4400 - RM 240
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133 Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 565
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1578 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
Get a cheaper mobo and upgrade the GPU to GTX1050Ti instead.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. I thought new LGA1150 hardware still widely available and might be cheaper than LGA1151. So I'll use this as reference. Thanks again.
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post Dec 14 2016, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Dec 13 2016, 07:42 PM)
WD 1TB 7200RPM shouldn't be that expensive. It should be around RM200-210.
Don't use the 6700K processor on H170 mobo. K processors are for overclocking purpose and you can't overclock 6700K on H170. The suitable mobo chipset is Z170 instead of H170.
Try mid tower chassis such as NZXT s340, slick design, save some costs.
PSU overkill, use a PSU between 550W-650W such as Super Flower Leadex Gold 550/650 @ RM410/RM450.
If you don't want to overclock CPU, use Intel i7 6700 (not K), then stick with H170 mobo.

The amount of cost saved shall get you a GTX 1070.
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QUOTE(ipin.strike92 @ Dec 13 2016, 08:48 PM)
Yeah, and to add, that ssd is M.2 ssd which is very expensive. Unless you are doing some rendering or heavy editing, you are better off with Kingston SSD like UV400 (around RM300) which is the usual recommendation by sifus here. If you want a quality ssd, go for Samsung 750 evo 250gb which cost around RM349.
For PSU, you can opt for Superflower Leadex Gold 550W or Seasonic M12II evo 620W for RM409, both are solid PSU.
For CPU cooler, a stock one should be fine. If you still want one, can consider CM Hyper 212X or Cryorig H7 both at around RM189.
The HDD that you quote is WD Black 1tb, which is very expensive. You can opt for cheaper HDD like WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda and/or invest more on SSD with bigger capacity.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. U can ask other sifus here though. They helped me a lot when i want to build my first rig.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 13 2016, 09:45 PM)
Few ways to save money:

1. Get 6700 instead of 6700K if you don't plan to overclock (recommended for your budget and usage).
2. Get Value RAM with 2133MHz speed instead of spending money on high performance RAM (like 2400MHz) which eventually will get downclocked to 2133MHz automatically due to lack of support from chipset (only Z170 supports > 2133MHz).
3. Get a SATA based SSD instead of M.2 unless clearance is an issue, you can save up to RM 150 by going back to SATA form factor.
4. Not necessary need to get 750W, a decent 500W is more than enough for your specs.
5. Aftermarket CPU cooler is not needed for your build (assuming you are going to get 6700).
You can use i7 6700K on H170 mobo, just cannot overclock, meaning it will run on stock 4.0GHz speed (4.2GHz turbo single core).
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Thanks, lolzcalvin, ipin.strike92 and terence_nwb for all good advises. Below is the revised spec that I would get and served as a benchmark. Bumped it to 1070 smile.gif


Processor INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I7-6700 PROCESSOR (8M CACHE, UP 3.40 to 4.00 GHZ) 1,402.00
Motherboard ASUS H170 PRO GAMING SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD 583.00
Ram G.SKILL AEGIS SERIES 16GB DDR4 2133MHZ (F4-2133C15S-16GIS) 459.00
SSD KINGSTON SSDNOW UV400 240GB SOLID STATE DRIVE 315.00
HDD WESTERN DIGITAL 3.5” 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA III (WD10EZEX) 219.00
GPU GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 1070 WINDFORCE 8GB (N1070WF2-8GD) 2,019.00
PSU SUPER FLOWER LEADEX GOLD 550W 429.00
Casing NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case Window -Black/Red 345.00
Cooler
Total 5,771.00

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QUOTE(black_goat @ Dec 14 2016, 12:53 AM)
Thanks a lot for the reply. I thought new LGA1150 hardware still widely available and might be cheaper than LGA1151. So I'll use this as reference. Thanks again.
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CPU and LGA1150 mobo are harder to find now since it is long obsoleted (1 year already), DDR3 RAM still widely available though, what you can find is leftover stock but price difference is small (non-existent in some models doh.gif ), so just get onboard with Skylake or the upcoming Kaby Lake if you can wait (should be launching soon, maybe next month).
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post Dec 14 2016, 08:51 AM

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Hey guys, i just want to ask whether it is worth it to upgrade my rig to i7? Whats the cheapest option to upgrade?

My current specs are
I5 2400
8gb ram
Gtx 1060
Seasonic s12ii 620w
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post Dec 14 2016, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(game4life @ Dec 14 2016, 08:51 AM)
Hey guys, i just want to ask whether it is worth it to upgrade my rig to i7? Whats the cheapest option to upgrade?

My current specs are
I5  2400
8gb ram
Gtx 1060
Seasonic s12ii 620w
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What makes you feel like going for an i7 upgrade? Getting poor performance in games?

The cheapest option is to find an used i7 3770 (or new unit but chances are very low since it is long obsoleted and discontinued).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 13 2016, 11:42 PM)
Not possible, even if it fits, it is likely to be bottlecked by the CPU because you can only fit a low end CPU (like dual core G4400) to cater the cost for a GTX1060 3GB. GTX1050Ti is a more appropriate choice.
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Noted. Do suggest a rig appropriate with the budget please. Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(_x_ @ Dec 14 2016, 09:35 AM)
Noted. Do suggest a rig appropriate with the budget please. Thanks in advance!
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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 475
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 565
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2024 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you have HDD to re-use, then you can upgrade to GTX1050Ti 4GB (around RM 750+/-).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 11 2016, 05:09 PM)
RM 600 - 700 can get IPS panel already, perhaps Acer R241/Dell S2316H? I don't think it is a good idea to pick TN (or even VA) unless your friend is looking for super low latency panel with such budget.
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i forgot to reply, is there any TN panel with super low latency such as 1, 2, 3 ms below stated budget for 24inch? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Dec 14 2016, 11:03 AM)
i forgot to reply, is there any TN panel with super low latency such as 1, 2, 3 ms below stated budget for 24inch?  biggrin.gif
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Yes please look for Acer G246HL (1ms TN), around RM 600+/-.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 6 2016, 08:43 AM)
If you prefer AMD, please wait for their upcoming Zen CPU instead of spending your cash in those aged AMD CPU.

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 475
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 2042 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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hi terence, can the RAM be upgraded to 16gb? can the rig support it?
im only using for net surfing, watching movie..

thanks
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post Dec 14 2016, 07:01 PM

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Hello sifus..

My fren just bought this Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming.. unfortunately he cant fit it in his current case doh.gif doh.gif .. could anyone suggest a budget case for this GC?

would <RM 250 do for this purpose? icon_question.gif

thank you!

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