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post Dec 8 2016, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(soket @ Dec 8 2016, 12:23 AM)
[Budget] 1.5k

[Purpose] web surfing, home use, minor pic editing and pic storage

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor (non-HD), speaker, keyboard and mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1366 x 768

[Games & softwares that use frequently] google chrome  laugh.gif

[Personal preferences] win 10 Home, energy saving (if possible)

[Location] Ampang
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DotaTech is located in Ampang, but I couldn't find the price for certain parts, nevertheless, I will just state a build that should be well within your budget.

Intel Pentium G4400
Any cheap H110 mobo (mATX preferred as it is cheaper)
8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
1TB HDD
Low wattage PSU
Casing

If the Windows 10 key that you are able to find locally is cheap then you can use the extra money to upgrade the G4400 to i3 6098P/6100.

This post has been edited by terence_nwb: Dec 8 2016, 08:40 AM
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post Dec 8 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Nostalgia @ Dec 8 2016, 01:55 AM)
[Budget] RM3-3.5k

[Purpose]Gaming (high usage), internet surfing, movies, music and general usage etc

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, speakers, mouse & keyboard

[Monitor resolution] Currently 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Overwatch, Google Chrome, Firefox, Microsoft Office, etc

[Personal preferences] None

[Location] Petaling Jaya, Selangor


Pls recommend me something  smile.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 908
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 229

Total: RM 3458 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Dec 8 2016, 11:42 AM

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Sifus, planning to get something as per pic. Any idea what best price can i get for below at lowyat or someone can quote me. I'm getting for gaming (FPS,FIFA,GTA,Overwatch,DOTA2/media consumption) and maybe dual/triple monitor set-up. You can see the part i choose if of black/white combination.


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post Dec 8 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(dcared @ Dec 8 2016, 11:42 AM)
Sifus, planning to get something as per pic. Any idea what best price can i get for below at lowyat or someone can quote me. I'm getting for gaming (FPS,FIFA,GTA,Overwatch,DOTA2/media consumption) and maybe dual/triple monitor set-up. You can see the part i choose if of black/white combination.
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There is no i5 6500K, if you can please get i7 6700K instead of i5 6600K for future proofing.

As for the real time price quotation, you can consult few retailers like those in Lowyat Plaza, ETech, Techview, DotaTech, Idealtech etc.

The PSU you have listed is out of stock everywhere and local distributor isn't going to restock it anytime soon so you will need a replacement unit, personally I recommend Superflower Leadex Gold 550W/EVGA Supernova 550 G2 (around RM 450+/-).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 8 2016, 02:07 PM)
There is no i5 6500K, if you can please get i7 6700K instead of i5 6600K for future proofing.

As for the real time price quotation, you can consult few retailers like those in Lowyat Plaza, ETech, Techview, DotaTech, Idealtech etc.

The PSU you have listed is out of stock everywhere and local distributor isn't going to restock it anytime soon so you will need a replacement unit, personally I recommend Superflower Leadex Gold 550W/EVGA Supernova 550 G2 (around RM 450+/-).
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post Dec 9 2016, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 8 2016, 08:39 AM)
DotaTech is located in Ampang, but I couldn't find the price for certain parts, nevertheless, I will just state a build that should be well within your budget.

Intel Pentium G4400
Any cheap H110 mobo (mATX preferred as it is cheaper)
8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM
1TB HDD
Low wattage PSU
Casing

If the Windows 10 key that you are able to find locally is cheap then you can use the extra money to upgrade the G4400 to i3 6098P/6100.
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like this ok?

INTEL PENTIUM G4400 - 239
GIGABYTE H110M-DS2 - 305
G.SKILL NT Series 4GB DDR4 2133mhz(CL15) - 139
AVF 500W PSU - 60
Sharkoon SHARK ZONE C10 - 199
WD 1TB Caviar Red - 320
LG Internal 24X DVDRW - 69
Total and GST Included - 1331
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post Dec 9 2016, 07:01 AM

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Others can keep.
Rig only or full set (including monitor and other peripherals)?
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Full set pls
terence_nwb
post Dec 9 2016, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(soket @ Dec 9 2016, 12:10 AM)
like this ok?

INTEL PENTIUM G4400 - 239
GIGABYTE H110M-DS2 - 305
G.SKILL NT Series 4GB DDR4 2133mhz(CL15) - 139
AVF 500W PSU - 60
Sharkoon SHARK ZONE C10 - 199
WD 1TB Caviar Red - 320
LG Internal 24X DVDRW - 69
Total and GST Included - 1331
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Change the WD Red to WD Blue, it can save you RM 100, others are ok for your usage (get 8GB RAM if you multitask a lot).

QUOTE(hellman44 @ Dec 9 2016, 07:01 AM)
Full set pls
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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 475
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
BenQ GW2270 - RM 350
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2940 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you prefer to run games at higher graphics settings, you can drop the SSD and opt for GTX1060 3GB.
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post Dec 9 2016, 05:30 PM

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[Budget]
Plan for ~RM6k (RM3k by end of Dec'16 & another RM3k in 2017) exclude GPU

[Purpose]
Future proofing - in other words, my last PC was an Intel Core 2 Duo used for the past 9yrs, showing chronic
hiccups now and I'm planning to setup for a decent 1080p gaming (probably by Jun'17).

Gaming purpose is really low prio at the moment.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Just 1 120GB 2.5" SSD + 2x 1TB HDD

[Monitor resolution]
1080p is good enough, interested in purchasing a Dell 24" monitor next year

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Looking at Dead Rising, Tomb Raider or Battlefield.

[Personal preferences]

Casing : Corsair Carbide 400R [RM 455]
Mobo : ASUS H170 Pro Gaming ATX [RM 641]
CPU : Intel Core i7-6700 [RM 1,390]
Cooler : Corsair Hydro H100i [RM 560]
RAM : 16GB G.SKill Aegis DDR4 2400MHz [RM 459]
PSU : Cooler Master V650 80+ Gold [RM 549]
SSD : Intel 540s 240GB M.2 [RM 459]
HDD : Reuse old 2x 1TB
Monitor : Dell U2417 [RM 969]
OS : Win 10

Plan to split into 3 phases:

Phase 1 : Casing + Mobo + CPU + RAM + PSU = RM 3,494

Phase 2 : Cooler + M.2 SSD + Monitor = RM 1,988

Phase 3 : GPU = TBD (maybe GTX1050 or 1060? not sure what I'd need to plan for later)

[Questions]

1. Is it still possible to use i7 for normal usage (no gaming, pure surfing, Microsoft Office, etc.) with the stock i7 cooler which comes in the CPU box?

2. Not sure if my i7 preference is overboard, or should I just downgrade to i5 with highest spec instead (chosen i7 for 'future proofing', i.e. whatever is the highest rated without OC.

3. Without OC, does the rig still need watercooling, and if it's actually overkill?

4. Is there any other good casing for this build? I don't prefer any excessive internal lighting/whatsoever though.
Some tempered glass casings look tempting, too. sweat.gif

[Location]
Melaka

This post has been edited by pokchik: Dec 9 2016, 05:31 PM
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post Dec 9 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 9 2016, 08:41 AM)
Change the WD Red to WD Blue, it can save you RM 100, others are ok for your usage (get 8GB RAM if you multitask a lot).
Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 475
Asus H110M-K - RM 253
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 203
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
BenQ GW2270 - RM 350
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 2940 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you prefer to run games at higher graphics settings, you can drop the SSD and opt for GTX1060 3GB.
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Thank you for the help sorry for being a noob in all these

But what happen if i switch the intel core to i7 will it be better?

This post has been edited by hellman44: Dec 9 2016, 10:51 PM
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post Dec 10 2016, 08:49 AM

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Hi terence! Im selling off my s2417dg LOL because of the pixel inversion which is I dont like. Im afraid this is out of topic but hope so it didnt. So im lowering my budget for a temporary monitor for daily gaming(144hz 1ms) to Rm1000-RM1400 (Its only for temporary, im saving for xb271hu). As far as I know a monitors that fit on my budget are Asus VG248Q, Aoc G2460PF, BenQ XL2411 Zowie and Acer XB240H. Do u have any idea on incoming models? Thanks.
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post Dec 10 2016, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(pokchik @ Dec 9 2016, 05:30 PM)
[Budget]
Plan for ~RM6k (RM3k by end of Dec'16 & another RM3k in 2017) exclude GPU

[Purpose]
Future proofing - in other words, my last PC was an Intel Core 2 Duo used for the past 9yrs, showing chronic
hiccups now and I'm planning to setup for a decent 1080p gaming (probably by Jun'17).

Gaming purpose is really low prio at the moment.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Just 1 120GB 2.5" SSD + 2x 1TB HDD

[Monitor resolution]
1080p is good enough, interested in purchasing a Dell 24" monitor next year

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Looking at Dead Rising, Tomb Raider or Battlefield.

[Personal preferences]

Casing : Corsair Carbide 400R [RM 455]
Mobo : ASUS H170 Pro Gaming ATX [RM 641]
CPU : Intel Core i7-6700 [RM 1,390]
Cooler : Corsair Hydro H100i [RM 560]
RAM : 16GB G.SKill Aegis DDR4 2400MHz [RM 459]
PSU : Cooler Master V650 80+ Gold [RM 549]
SSD : Intel 540s 240GB M.2 [RM 459]
HDD : Reuse old 2x 1TB
Monitor : Dell U2417 [RM 969]
OS : Win 10

Plan to split into 3 phases:

Phase 1 : Casing + Mobo + CPU + RAM + PSU = RM 3,494

Phase 2 : Cooler + M.2 SSD + Monitor = RM 1,988

Phase 3 : GPU = TBD (maybe GTX1050 or 1060? not sure what I'd need to plan for later)

[Questions]

1. Is it still possible to use i7 for normal usage (no gaming, pure surfing, Microsoft Office, etc.) with the stock i7 cooler which comes in the CPU box?

2. Not sure if my i7 preference is overboard, or should I just downgrade to i5 with highest spec instead (chosen i7 for 'future proofing', i.e. whatever is the highest rated without OC.

3. Without OC, does the rig still need watercooling, and if it's actually overkill?

4. Is there any other good casing for this build? I don't prefer any excessive internal lighting/whatsoever though.
Some tempered glass casings look tempting, too.  sweat.gif

[Location]
Melaka
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1. Yes you can, that's the purpose of stock cooler on locked CPU.

2. i7 is overkill for your usage but if you have the budget then why not right? biggrin.gif

3. No need water cooling, air cooling is enough.

4. Personal preferences, by looking at the current trend (RGB and tempered glass), the 400R looks extremely expensive to me with its specs sweat.gif

QUOTE(hellman44 @ Dec 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
Thank you for the help sorry for being a noob in all these

But what happen if i switch the intel core to i7 will it be better?
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If gaming is the main priority, focus more on the GPU instead of CPU, upgrade the CPU to i5 and GPU to GTX1060 will give you a better performance than i7 + GTX1050Ti. This is because i5 + GTX1060 is a more balanced setup compared to i7 + GTX1050Ti (the i7 will somehow be "bottlenecked" by the GPU because the GPU is not fast enough).
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Dec 10 2016, 08:49 AM)
Hi terence! Im selling off my s2417dg LOL because of the pixel inversion which is I dont like. Im afraid this is out of topic but hope so it didnt. So im lowering my budget for a temporary monitor for daily gaming(144hz 1ms) to Rm1000-RM1400 (Its only for temporary, im saving for xb271hu). As far as I know a monitors that fit on my budget are Asus VG248Q, Aoc G2460PF, BenQ XL2411 Zowie and Acer XB240H. Do u have any idea on incoming models? Thanks.
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Well, since you are saving money for XB271HU (or any other equivalent incoming model), just get the cheapest 1080p 144Hz 1ms monitor in the market will do (most likely XB240H smile.gif )

ViewSonic XG2703 is also a good alternative to XB271HU but with slightly different design language (same price though and already available locally).
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post Dec 10 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 10 2016, 09:28 AM)
Well, since you are saving money for XB271HU (or any other equivalent incoming model), just get the cheapest 1080p 144Hz 1ms monitor in the market will do (most likely XB240H  smile.gif )

ViewSonic XG2703 is also a good alternative to XB271HU but with slightly different design language (same price though and already available locally).
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Thanks for the reply bro, u never disappoint me LOL xD
How about XB240H if compares to zowie xl2411 and Aoc g2460pf? What if I take an IPS 144hz 4ms? Does 1ms really noticeable with 4ms?
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Dec 10 2016, 09:40 AM)
Thanks for the reply bro, u never disappoint me LOL xD
How about XB240H if compares to zowie xl2411 and Aoc g2460pf? What if I take an IPS 144hz 4ms? Does 1ms really noticeable with 4ms?
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G2460PF is more worth in this case since it supports AMD FreeSync. There is no 1080p 144Hz IPS monitor in Malaysia yet, all are TN and you will need to look for at least 1440p for IPS panel.

I don't play fast pace games so 1ms vs 4ms is literally negligible to me, you might want to ask someone who has superior eye-vision or FPS gamers for this biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 10 2016, 09:46 AM)
G2460PF is more worth in this case since it supports AMD FreeSync. There is no 1080p 144Hz IPS monitor in Malaysia yet, all are TN and you will need to look for at least 1440p for IPS panel.

I don't play fast pace games so 1ms vs 4ms is literally negligible to me, you might want to ask someone who has superior eye-vision or FPS gamers for this  biggrin.gif
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Since Im using gtx1070, I think the freesync is useless. All of them are built with the same panel right? Maybe, im looking forward to get XB240H. Thanks terence, have a good day.
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Dec 10 2016, 09:50 AM)
Since Im using gtx1070, I think the freesync is useless. All of them are built with the same panel right? Maybe, im looking forward to get XB240H. Thanks terence, have a good day.
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FreeSync is useless for Nvidia users but it might have a higher resell value, all of them are using TN panel but due to the nature of display panel, most of the high refresh rate panels suffer from various issues like backlight bleeding (very obvious in certain model like XB241H), please check the review online first before making the final decision.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Dec 10 2016, 08:50 AM)
1. Yes you can, that's the purpose of stock cooler on locked CPU.

2. i7 is overkill for your usage but if you have the budget then why not right?  biggrin.gif

3. No need water cooling, air cooling is enough.

4. Personal preferences, by looking at the current trend (RGB and tempered glass), the 400R looks extremely expensive to me with its specs  sweat.gif
If gaming is the main priority, focus more on the GPU instead of CPU, upgrade the CPU to i5 and GPU to GTX1060 will give you a better performance than i7 + GTX1050Ti. This is because i5 + GTX1060 is a more balanced setup compared to i7 + GTX1050Ti (the i7 will somehow be "bottlenecked" by the GPU because the GPU is not fast enough).
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Ahhh ok i know what to buy thanks to u😁😊.

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oh holy ones, would like to get some advise for a pc build.

Would like to build a gaming rig (actually i dont really play that many/any games atm) to play games at medium settings or higher. My budget hovers at around 3k, can push it up slightly by a few hundred (keeping it under 3.5k would be great). Also budgeting about an additional 500 for the screen (if one can point me towards a good monitor for that price, that would be jolly nice).

So far, am thinking of a build with at least a i5 6500 but i notice that the 6600 can be had for slightly more. Would it be worth the money to go for the 6600?
Am also thinking that the gtx 1060 would be more than enough for me. Which model would be best bang for buck? (Or would the equivalent amd card be a better bet?)

Thankyou oh holy ones.
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hi, can anyone suggest me a good AIO cooler ? any price but of course, cheaper is better

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