QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 9 2016, 04:38 PM)
which fund?and which state?
anyhow congratz
This post has been edited by nexona88: Oct 9 2016, 04:43 PM
Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 9 2016, 04:43 PM) thanks bro, it's at kt again.AS1M 8 ASW 1 ASM 1 its' small amounts but largest (in single day) for me since I started invest in asnb. can't forget how hard for me to "open" 3 new accounts and those small amounts of top up in ASW.. |
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Oct 9 2016, 04:55 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 04:56 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 9 2016, 04:55 PM) remembered I was trying to buy this before? and you fortunately you told me it's a unit trust so I didn't naik kereta and change my boat into "real fp funds".. thanks bro but many aunt unker naik this ASG because of the ridiculous high interest rate of FD that bound with the ASG package... |
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Oct 9 2016, 05:00 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 05:01 PM
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My 2 cents here as some are wandering which ASX to hunt for.
Rather than on gut feel, look at past performance and then throw your money at it! Ha. AA First graph To me, the 3 ASX are about the same visually. What stands out for me is, these ASX were BETTER than EPF till the last 2 years. BB Second graph Standard deviation is a measure of variation/dispersion. Std/avg gives a better comparison. For the past 6 years return averages, the order is ASW ASM AS1M EPF In terms of variation, EPF & ASW have the highest, then ASM & AS1M. Using std/avg comparison, EPF and ASW are the worst, then ASM and AS1M is the most consistent one. So, if you want highest return, go for ASW. If you want consistency go for AS1M. Ha. P/S I am not liable for your decision based on the above analysis! Ha. Cheerio. |
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Oct 9 2016, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 9 2016, 05:01 PM) My 2 cents here as some are wandering which ASX to hunt for. no wonder why a lot people are hunting for ASW Rather than on gut feel, look at past performance and then throw your money at it! Ha. AA First graph To me, the 3 ASX are about the same visually. What stands out for me is, these ASX were BETTER than EPF till the last 2 years. BB Second graph Standard deviation is a measure of variation/dispersion. Std/avg gives a better comparison. For the past 6 years return averages, the order is ASW ASM AS1M EPF In terms of variation, EPF & ASW have the highest, then ASM & AS1M. Using std/avg comparison, EPF and ASW are the worst, then ASM and AS1M is the most consistent one. So, if you want highest return, go for ASW. If you want consistency go for AS1M. Ha. P/S I am not liable for your decision based on the above analysis! Ha. Cheerio. |
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Oct 9 2016, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 9 2016, 05:01 PM) My 2 cents here as some are wandering which ASX to hunt for. very very well studies / analysis... Rather than on gut feel, look at past performance and then throw your money at it! Ha. AA First graph To me, the 3 ASX are about the same visually. What stands out for me is, these ASX were BETTER than EPF till the last 2 years. BB Second graph Standard deviation is a measure of variation/dispersion. Std/avg gives a better comparison. For the past 6 years return averages, the order is ASW ASM AS1M EPF In terms of variation, EPF & ASW have the highest, then ASM & AS1M. Using std/avg comparison, EPF and ASW are the worst, then ASM and AS1M is the most consistent one. So, if you want highest return, go for ASW. If you want consistency go for AS1M. Ha. P/S I am not liable for your decision based on the above analysis! Ha. Cheerio. no wonder it's so hard top in ASW |
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Oct 9 2016, 06:28 PM
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Oct 9 2016, 06:44 PM
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Below is my analysis:-
ASW Returns since inception - 7.383% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.520% Average returns for 10 yrs - 6.675% ASM Returns since inception - 6.793% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.560% Average returns for 10 yrs - 6.633% AS1M Returns since inception - 6.469% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.480% Average returns for 10 yrs - N/A |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2016, 06:44 PM) Below is my analysis:- U guys are GOOD ! Doing analysis on your investments ! ASW Returns since inception - 7.383% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.520% Average returns for 10 yrs - 6.675% ASM Returns since inception - 6.793% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.560% Average returns for 10 yrs - 6.633% AS1M Returns since inception - 6.469% Average returns for 5 yrs - 6.480% Average returns for 10 yrs - N/A |
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Oct 9 2016, 06:55 PM
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ASW2020 "Returns since inception" is highest because the first year dividend rate is 10.10sen. 2nd year is 9.80sen
compare with ASM & AS1M, which is way lower we needed to look at 5 year average. then only correct.. |
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Oct 9 2016, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2016, 06:28 PM) Yes, agree that past performance does not guarantee future returns but I view it as a guide.Say, X is very good in primary and secondary schools while Y is very poor in his studies. X has a higher chance of doing well in uni than Y, though there is no guarantee that Y cannot do better than X later. It does not guarantee but it is a good indication, provided the fundamentals are there and maintained. Just my 2 cents ... |
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Oct 9 2016, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 9 2016, 03:51 PM) Is the A = yearly expenses / net worth, given by the book ? Good point on the liquid asset. Are rented houses considered as illiquid assets? If yes, then a landlord with many rented houses will give a false higher expenses/asset ratio than 0.03 as his houses are not counted. I think should replace the net worth by liquid asset excluding primary residence. I am thinking along this line. After using up all the assets except the house, one can still sell the house (if situation requires one to) and live in a rented house or hotel. Sell the house for RM1 million, stay at a hotel at RM150 per night with RM150 daily expenses, that can still last for 1 million/300 = 9 years! Cannot remember whether the A thing is mentioned in the book. I read that some time ago. Likely yes as I think he explained the origin of 0.03 and that a 0.04-0.05 might be more suitable. Maybe that was from another book/article? Sorry, sorry, sorry! Ha. P/S OT here. So I better stop here. |
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Oct 9 2016, 09:39 PM
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I have registered AS1M via m2u by using old a/c no last yr
Can I top up AS1M now since ASNB have changed the old a/c to New a/c now? |
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Oct 9 2016, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 9 2016, 09:39 PM) I have registered AS1M via m2u by using old a/c no last yr Yes, very good point!Can I top up AS1M now since ASNB have changed the old a/c to New a/c now? I think it is possible. I only updated my daughter's AS1M passbook a few days ago. Before that, I still managed to buy some online for her. Maybe they have automatically corrected the online account? Hope so. Will find out. |
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Oct 9 2016, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 9 2016, 09:48 PM) Yes, very good point! Thanks for enlighteningI think it is possible. I only updated my daughter's AS1M passbook a few days ago. Before that, I still managed to buy some online for her. Maybe they have automatically corrected the online account? Hope so. Will find out. I will try to top up RM100 tmrw |
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Oct 9 2016, 10:27 PM
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online top up of AS1M is entitle to Labur Online 2016 contest.
non bumi winners would be given units in ASG or AS1M |
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