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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Sep 18 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2016, 11:01 AM)
Wow. UHNWI spotted. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
FP = Fixed price fund sold by ASNB (ASB, ASB2, ASM, ASW2020, AS1M) which means you buy and sell at rm1/unit so there's no chance for making a loss as your prinicpal will always remain the same.

Historically, FP funds sold by ASNB give the same return every year.
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Fp bettet than fd as I know..
I am not bumi, and not familiar with this kind of fp. Where can I buy fp? At bank?
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post Sep 18 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2016, 02:44 PM)
Yes. At the bank. Best is bank is affin, maybank, rhb, cimb. Besides bank can buy from post office, asnb branch. Before buying,  need to open account first.  Opening account is the hard one. Refer to first page on places to open account.

Opening account + topping up units is subjected to units availability.
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post Sep 18 2016, 09:17 PM

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Hi guys, I gonna open an account at Maybank at tomorrow. It is bundle with high interest rate of FD promotion (3 months) only.

May I know is it any possibility that I could make losses by parking my money into Amanah Saham Wawasan? The manager told me the price is low now, (ekonomi merosot) he advise me to buy it now.


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post Sep 18 2016, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2016, 09:30 PM)
Can u share more info on d bundle?
Impossible for u to make losses if u invest in ASW except opportunity cost
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http://mypf.my/2016/08/09/maybank-fd-asg-promo/

what do you think?

Sales Charge: 5%
Annual Fees: up to 1.57%
Est. Total Fees & Charges on 20k Investment: RM1,314 (1 year) / RM1,942 (3 years)

is it worth the sales charge and etc?? Those charges like very pricey.

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post Sep 18 2016, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2016, 09:58 PM)
Just make sure it's either ASM, ASW or AS1M. Anything out of the 3 straight reject. icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks bro, I think those are UT... (zzz, no mood)

FD Details

Duration: 3 months
Type: Fixed Deposit
Returns: 8.58% p.a. (fresh funds) / 7.58% (existing funds)
Min placement: RM20,000


ASNB Investment

Min Duration: 12 months
Type: Unit Trust
Min placement: RM20,000
Fund Choices (5): ASN2, ASN3, ASG – Pendidikan / Kesihatan / Persaraan
Novagni (a local UT rating provider) Ratings: 1-3*
Note: Established intl ratings by Lipper & Morningstar were not available.

should I just reject those UT? I don't like UT.. at all puke.gif

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post Sep 18 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2016, 10:04 PM)
If your risk appetite is Low, just reject
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lol so fishy, quite same name to "lure" newbie like me... sweat.gif
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post Sep 18 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2016, 09:55 PM)
I think you going to kena tipu. FD with amanah saham? Most likely ASG/ASN3. Not ASW2020. Price is low now not true for amanah saham wawasan as ASW2020 is fixed price fund. Buy and sell at RM1/unit. ASG/ASN3 on the other hand... That one can rugi + 5% Sc. ASW2020 does not have 5% SC. If you do have manage to get the FD, ask for ASM, AS1M, ASW2020 or no deal.  biggrin.gif
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Hi ramjade, you again biggrin.gif

any method I can learn to open account for fixed price fund, I am low risk taker. I don't want invest in UT, not my type.. (not to mention those charges...)


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post Sep 18 2016, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 18 2016, 10:07 PM)
Avoid. The fund have SC which will eat into your profit. You will get <4%.
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better just park in GIA or normal FD promotion..

darn those Maybank "liar", I already tell them I want fixed price funds.. thos farker!!! bruce.gif

thanks for warn me smile.gif
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post Sep 18 2016, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2016, 10:09 PM)
If u r keen on bundle, u may consider Affin Bank as they offer FD @ 4.25% plus FP
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that's good, thanks for intro smile.gif

but now I don't have any FP (fixed price) fund account at all, can I open at affin and top up over there?
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post Sep 19 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Sep 19 2016, 03:47 PM)
Not a single unit available today
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can't open account yet.. gonna keep trying bruce.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 19 2016, 05:17 PM)
Remember last day for AS1M is 22 Sept, Thursday before suspended for dividend calculation (23 Sept - 3 Oct)  icon_rolleyes.gif
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which means I've chance to open an account? Gonna keep trying on this few days? smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 19 2016, 05:23 PM)
yup. if still failed..

your best bet is on 4 Oct. guarantee units available. Big or Small depends on your luck  flex.gif
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thanks for advise, what do you means by 4 Oct? I've to try my luck everywhere (bank and ASNB?)
I am non bumiputra, thus I must try at those places? (as mentioned in page 1?)

Can I try at bank that non listed as above information?
Thanks to those who provided below places thumbsup.gif


Maybank:
KLIA2, Bdr Bkt Tinggi 1, Klang Town, D'sara Uptown, KL Sentral, Cyberjaya, Cheng & Graha Peladang (Melaka),
Rampai Biz Park, Karak, KLCC, Desa Jaya (Kepong), Taman Pelangi (JB), Kompleks Bandar (OUG), Mid Valley Mall, Kuchai Lama

ASNB:
KL HQ, Melaka, Bayan Lepas, Kuching, Seberang Jaya

PosMalaysia:
HQ KL, Shah Alam, Triang, Klang Utara (near Mydin)

CIMB:
Bangi, Jalan Parry Miri, Taman Putra Ampang, D'sara Uptown

RHB:
Padungan, KLCC, Simpang 3 Kuching, Jalan Stesen Klang, Bandar Utama

Affin Bank:
Cyberjaya

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post Sep 19 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2016, 07:58 PM)
You want to open in Klang? Actually anywhere also can open. As long as got units and the staff willing to try.
4th of Oct is date when AS1M will resume transaction. On this day, is post dividend date which means there might/will be people who withdraw out from their dividend. When people withdraw, that's when unit is free up. That's when people looking to topup, open account can topup/open. The 4/10 only applies to AS1M. I recommend you to go to bank and try everyday.

What happen when you go to bank & ASNB? Did they really try to open for you or straight said no units?

I am also a non-bumi. Those places are places where we recommend one to try luck of opening as the staff at the place will help you to open (because we managed to open there ourselves).
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Actually I can try anywhere besides those banks? (I'm out station at kuala terrenganu right now, can I try at banks over here?) I will travel to kl every month, I was planning my schedule to go banks as I thought only those banks willing to open account for me..

Maybank manager over here told me this banyak susah dapat, sudah full quota and etc. Then asked me whether interested with UT (so called asg...) I don't want to invest into UT at all. I'll save those money in efd/gia until I can invest into fp fund.

How long I can get my gia if I urgently need it to top up amanah saham? (Assume I am lucky enough to open the account and quota available for me to top up)

May I know how much they charge for open and top up the units ya?

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post Sep 19 2016, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2016, 08:34 PM)
Those banks are agents. The recommended banks are Maybank/Affin/Rhb/Cimb. If you don't want to go to banks, try post office or ASNB branch.

That's their standard script everywhere. You will need to push. Tell them I tahu susah. Tapi I tahu kalau ada orang jual, I boleh buka. Tolong cuba utk saya.

You cannot contra from eGIA-i directly. Happen to me before. The only way to contra from eGIA -i is eGIA-i > SA > bank worker. So. Recommend you take pic of your total in eGIA-i to show casher. Once dapat unit, try to get computer/phone access to uplift the required amount from eGIA-i > SA.

Opening account is FOC. No Service charge/tax. To open account, require only RM100/account. So if you want to open all 3 ASW2020, ASM, As1M, you need to get reaady RM300.

Hope that helps.
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thanks berow, I will try open all account (so can top up if any funds got quota)

An aunty already "naik kereta" of CIMB ASG... sigh feel bad didn't advised her earlier because I've no idea what's that amanah saham about.. I also feel weird why so easy those bankers push those amanah to her (as I know fp fund is hard to purchase)

I read some post above that mentioned about "5 % charges", are they bought UT kind of ASG?

what's your advise for her? keep it 1 year or longer? The historical dividend of ASG is not well.. (I dunno I interpret wrongly or not la)

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post Sep 20 2016, 11:52 AM

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problem solved (google the answer)

thanks guys.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2016, 11:20 AM)
Harder and troublesome compare to OTC (from previous posts). But still no harm trying RM5k. If the RM5k is not refunded within 3 days to your account, means you got it.  rclxms.gif
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what does it means by OTC?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2016, 12:10 PM)
AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL= ASN = variable price? But it's for bumi only. confused.gif

What bank are you using? If maybank can only topup AS1M for non bumi.
Over the counter.
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Hi, sry.. I think it's fixed price fund. The book is "red color" and I think it's ASW. I be able to get RM400 only (included open account RM100) haha..

This means Maybank cannot top up my account (ASW) at all right, what can I do with my "NO AHLI"? May I know which banks provided online top up for ASW?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2016, 12:23 PM)
Red book is ASW2020.  sweat.gif Nope.  No Ahli is used to register your ASX account with the online bank that you want to use to topup. Also that is what you need to write when isi borang. Only Cimb and RHB. I haven't do online topup before so cannot confirm but you can always test it out. Keep in mind that each online topup charges you RM1.06 even though you didn't get any unit.  sad.gif

Where did you managed to open? Btw, next target should be try opening ASM and AS1M. Cause if ASW2020 don't have, at least can try luck with the other 2 books.
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I got it at Rhb bank, the counter staff over there is very helpful (thanks to her) compared to Maybank...

This morning I went to Post office, they teach me how to open but eventually they told me it's full.. but it's okay because they're quite polite and nice, maybe really no quota or the system is too slow as he mentioned. However I tried my luck again at RHB and finally got RM400.

Yes I was trying to open ASM, and AS1M but they told me it's already full. Tomorrow will try again.

RM1.06 per TRYING only... I think it's not worth... better I keep going banks when I plan to pass by during lunch or breakfast.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2016, 12:42 PM)
Which RHB? Jln what? What state? Please provide info so first page can be updated to help other people.  rclxms.gif

Precisely. Not worth it for me because of the charge + not guaranteed compare to counter. At least with affin, if I bring RM10k, sure that RM10k will masuk. Just depends on whether I have time to wait at the bank or not.  If you keep going (like everyday to try) maybe can build up relationship with the bank (no need for priority banking) and may even be able to leave the book there and come back at 3PM to give them the money if really got units..  icon_rolleyes.gif
I am a cash person. More efficient for me. I don't have any account with affin bank. FDs yes but not account. Money is in maybank. Affin's the best place for me to topup. So no choice but to bring cash to affin.
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It's RHB Bank at Kuala Terrenganu, No. 20, Pusat Niaga Paya Keladi, Terengganu

You means if I want to top up, I've to wait at bank from morning till 3PM?? @@ (assume I've the time..)

What's you advise how much to bring every time I keep trying? 10k 20k? (sounds like not safe though) or few k is good enough? (since it's very hard to have available units)
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Sep 20 2016, 01:04 PM)
Can't get any unit today
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got 400 only of asw.

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