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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) VI, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Sep 15 2016, 05:26 PM

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I bought ASG 2 years back. After that have been trying to ask RHB and MBB to open new FP accounts. They always said cannot open new account. bruce.gif

Yesterday successfully opened the 3 FP accounts in Affin, ASM, AS1M and ASW2020. It took about 45 minutes all in. All got in the first try. But I only bought small amount. After I got mine, another counter one lady was not able to get any units. The counter staff said I was lucky ! biggrin.gif

Now really think some of the banks really turn people off. doh.gif

Thanks for this thread, people saying this week is time to get the units. Luckily did not go to ASNB office as I heard the queue there was pretty long. Affin no queue. After talking to the officer, went straight to the counter. But the account number is using my ASG account number. No need to fill in new forms for the 3 FP accounts. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 15 2016, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 15 2016, 05:43 PM)
Welcome to the club!

Migrate more from FD brows.gif
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Hahaha, after the ASG (6 figure), have stopped buying any ASNB units. Now will try to buy the FP units. Except hate going to bank to try and try.

Placing FD is more straight forward. FP units, susah lah !!

Have talked to Affin, they suggest buy <50k units in any one day. But then I ask if cannot get ? Then the 50k or remainder stay in SA ? dry.gif

Admire some of the taikoh here have kangtao to get the units. rclxms.gif

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post Sep 15 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Sep 15 2016, 06:01 PM)
AS1M is not capital guarantee right?
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Have to ask the regulars here. Have not got over getting the 3 passbooks yet. tongue.gif
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post Sep 15 2016, 06:27 PM

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Shxx ! Looking at my ASG passbook after the update yesterday, lose about 6.7% after 2 years ! doh.gif
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post Sep 15 2016, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 15 2016, 07:07 PM)
Thanks for the info...
Now it's confirmed that if u have any of those fund, don't needed to fill up new applications form.. All use 1 common account number...
So I guess it much easy nowadays.. Since u have ASG, all use the same number...

But the biggest question now, the tellers will know all the funds balance just with a click (even u don't show your passbook).. Its using 1 acc number.. Top up, withdraw, open, close account...
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Is this new for ASNB ? One of my relative said their acct number was different for the 2 accounts that they have with ASNB. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 15 2016, 07:13 PM)
yea... nowadays quite hard.... but last year I move from ASG to ASM easily... haha. most of the people here did the same too. 6% quite high compared to FD. but need to go thru all the pain of getting units lo... 

No investment is capital guarantee... Even with PIDM.
When you do the tscn? today? walao, KLCI drop 15 pts ystd, today you go withdraw.. sure lost 99. Better do it at 1700. But seem impossible... Thank god the moment I cut off is 1750...
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The ASG was bought in Sept 2014 and Apr 2015. There is a drop of about 15/16 cents from that time to now ! doh.gif
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post Sep 15 2016, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 15 2016, 08:34 PM)
Yea... Around 20cents.
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Depends on when it was bought. Shxx, the VP really has to be careful ! Unfortunately market down the last 2 years ! sad.gif
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post Sep 16 2016, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 16 2016, 05:16 AM)
Wah liao...you pun mari  biggrin.gif

Another strong competitor  sweat.gif
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Not strong but lazy competitor. I prefer to put in FD instead of going to "try" and "try". That is me. tongue.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2016, 07:41 AM)
For VP, need to look at market value (i.e. current NAV x total units) instead of just compared buying price n present price as any distribution during the period will pull down the NAV
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That is what I did. I used current price X the number of units now (including dividend units) to calculate current value.

The result is same as some of the UT that I bought before, though not as bad as some went down by 20 to 30% in 2 years. bruce.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2016, 08:12 AM)
I presume '(6 figure)' must b very big  notworthy.gif
Perhaps u may consider to switch gradually from VP to FP if u r not comfortable
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Just manage to squeeze into 6 figure, so not much as compared to some taikor here !

I think I will just leave it there for now. While trying to buy FP units. But lazy me will probably buy when the regulars here say now is the time ! laugh.gif
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post Sep 16 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2016, 12:42 PM)
When u hear now is the time, it will b too late
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laugh.gif Either too late or no dough at that time. That is why I still prefer FD more. But will try to buy more FP in coming weeks. In conjunction with the FD 4.25% of Affin. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 16 2016, 12:53 PM)
can see how happy you finally come here.
actually i was wondering why you didnt come earlier.
the difference is really huge, for every Million you can lose some RM20k a year
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Have been discouraged by the banks before and lazy to go to ASNB office. Until Affin said can try to open FP accts for me, over the phone !

Yeah 2% for 1 mil can be 20k difference. But it would really take time to build up to that level since not easy to get the amt we want. Will need patience, perseverance and some kangtao !
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 16 2016, 02:14 PM)
Boss, easy for you nia....

Use your relationship.

Powerful words

"I think I want close all the account with your bank la, your banker seems like don't want help me in doing FP transection. Ask for top up say don't have la line down la this la that la. But I come from other bank ok only. What happen to your banker la"
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For small fry like me, cannot try high pressure tactic. laugh.gif

Anyway with Affin's help, already got what I want. 3 FP accts for non bumi's. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 16 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 15 2016, 06:38 PM)
Majority inside FP & dividend stocks now. Still have some FDs at Affin 4.3% & HLB 4.25%.
Can survive with dividends from stocks without touching FP dividends.
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Getting to this forum get to know even more HNWI & UHNWI ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 17 2016, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 16 2016, 03:40 PM)
All timing and luck. Auntie twinkle regularly shared every successful top up here. 4-6 trips, 3 banks in 1 day as I had to move the few 'bricks' from stagnant FD. Easier with 3 passbooks as somehow, always managed to get 1 or 2 of them in one day. Once I set my mind to do something, I'll do my best to accomplish it.
With multiple trips to many banks, everyday was a successful day, range from 3 to 5 digits.
I managed to hit 1st and 2nd target for ASM, AS1M & ASW  within 10 days to 21 days in May itself- all 6 digits. It'd be impossible to just wait for end of the month or 1st of the month. You can try multiple 5 digits > 50k / day but with luck and timing. Yes, majority bank staff and PNB do question on my $$ and they get to hear my working life. I don't see anything to worry as $$ was repatriated back from my previous workplace to my local bank in proper manner.
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Quote:
"Once I set my mind to do something, I'll do my best to accomplish it."

Admire the above spirit ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

That is the spirit of a successful person ! thumbsup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Sep 17 2016, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 17 2016, 07:42 AM)
Agreed as it's very challenging
Having said tat, nothing is impossible  brows.gif
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Everything (or most things brows.gif ) in this world is possible. Once u set your mind to it. rclxms.gif


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post Sep 19 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 19 2016, 07:37 AM)
Top up cost is given dy as it's definitely more cost effective to perform transaction via online for ASB
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I would prefer online top up instead of going to bank to try. Anyone successful in online top up with hight amount say 10k or above ? Sorry as I have not been monitoring this thread for a long time. Any particular agent banks which has better platform for the online top up ?
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post Sep 20 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 20 2016, 09:05 AM)
I have nvr try online b4
Perhaps u can try n share yo experience
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OK, not you. biggrin.gif

Any one has experience for online transaction ? Easy, difficult ? From what I read, OTC is easier to get big amt, but how about 5k or so ?

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2016, 11:20 AM)
Harder and troublesome compare to OTC (from previous posts). But still no harm trying RM5k. If the RM5k is not refunded within 3 days to your account, means you got it.  rclxms.gif
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OK, thanks for info !

Looks like u are expert on ASNB funds already ! thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 20 2016, 05:24 PM)
Majority of 'investors' I've met during my 'hunting' days ended up opening 'basic saving account at Affin Bank as the staff are extremely helpful. Many tried 'octopus bank' nearby but was 'shoo' away to Affin Bank too. At the end Affin Bank benefited with extra new accounts and deposits. I only asked for ATM card and no bank passbook as I dislike carrying it. I just produced my IC for any transaction. If you've a passbook, you may need to produce it (I think). I've carried 5-6 digits visiting 2-3 banks, 4-6x/ day as no one will look at old auntie swinging umbrella walking pass by. Probably they'll try to avoid me as much as possible in case I accidentally hit them.
Be extra careful when you carry cash around esp if you walk out from 1 bank to another. Easier to deposit small amount each time unless you're as lucky as me and some of the member here.
I'm sure if you visit banks more frequent, your chances will be higher.
Good luck. I'm sure you can move your funds bit by bit once you've your passbooks with frequent visits.
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I think I will use Affin by depositing dough in the SA there. That is better instead of carrying big amt of cash around.

Affin's advantage is 50k per day of online transfer. So in case I want to xfer out the dough, easier as well. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2016, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 22 2016, 07:42 AM)
All luck & timing. I sat at ASNB, re Q 6-8x for nearly 3 hours trying, just for 100u to open 3 passbooks.
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Really got patience and perseverance ! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Sep 22 2016, 07:42 AM)
thumbsup.gif I've extra units of AS1M & ASM too but most probably will let them hibernate inside.
I don't need $$ now as my KLSE 'turtle' stocks are doing quite well.
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Cannot have too many people like auntie ! Then no units to buy ! cry.gif

Do shout if u want to sell......................... wink.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 22 2016, 09:46 AM)
Perhaps lady luck is with u tat time
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I guess I was lucky also to open all 3 FP for non bumi last week. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 22 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 22 2016, 10:08 AM)
When u will implement regular top up exercise to achieve your personal MYR target?
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Project started. laugh.gif

Major milestone on 4/10. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 22 2016, 10:56 AM)
Good good..
I'm not topping up for as1m for now.. Have others stuff to focus blush.gif
Give u chance laugh.gif
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TQ boss !

Got 11k units FP today. More details later.

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