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post Jan 21 2007, 01:28 PM, updated 19y ago

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This is a continuation of the 2nd thread. Didn't expect the thread is quite active since the 8-series card are here

Happy discussing.


Material from previous thread can be found here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/345419

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jan 21 2007, 01:32 PM
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:10 PM

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i tot GE is able to moded into GS o GT?
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yeah...3rd version already...biggrin.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:48 PM

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so it means the performance is actually equals to GT?
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QUOTE(nonamekid @ Jan 21 2007, 02:10 PM)
i tot GE is able to moded into GS o GT?
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QUOTE(nonamekid @ Jan 21 2007, 02:48 PM)
so it means the performance is actually equals to GT?
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FYI, 7300GT, 7600GE, 7600GS, 7600GST, 7600GT -- all of them using same core, G73, unlike 7300GT which is laser-cut by nVIDIA to disable 4 of pipeline make it to 8 pipeline instead of 12 pipeline like 7600 series...
7600GE=7600GS, IMO, 7600GE is for China marketing while 7600GS for global marketing IIANM... the lowest core clock for 7600 series is 450MHz (Palit) while the highest is 585MHz (XFX OC), but in the end, no matter what model or type as long you get 7600 series, the performance still remain same (don't forget, i'm mentioning about 7600 series with gDDR3)
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Can you guys tell me the difference between PCIE graphic card type of 7900GS and 7900GT in term of gpu clock and ram clock? And other features that they do have?

I am thinking about to buy 7 series card of Nvidia.

Sorry if this is quite noob question.

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post Jan 21 2007, 03:30 PM

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Hey guys, here is the 3D Mark 03 result:

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3D Mark 05 result have problem, see attachment below:

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As you can see from above attachment, it did not show me the score, it ask me to view my score online, but when I click on it, it will pop up a message say submission failed. So, I can see my 3D Mark 05 score. Any idea why this happen? Is it the 3D Mark 05 I have got problem? icon_question.gif

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Are u using 7600gs to run this benchmark?

6xxx pts for 3dmark03 a bit too less for 7600gs smile.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 21 2007, 03:34 PM)
Are u using 7600gs to run this benchmark?

6xxx pts for 3dmark03 a bit too less for 7600gs smile.gif
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Ya, I have check at the 3D Mark 03 database there, my score is too low... hmm.gif When you guys run the benchmark, do you close all other application before running it? Will ram affect the result too? icon_question.gif

Thanks. notworthy.gif

Edited to add: I did not oc my 7600GS, memory 1000MHz, core 450MHz... laugh.gif

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If default speed, i think that mark also wont be so low.

I dunno wat reason causing it tongue.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 21 2007, 03:58 PM)
If default speed, i think that mark also wont be so low.

I dunno wat reason causing it tongue.gif

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Maybe I should run the benchmark again when I free... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 21 2007, 03:43 PM)
Ya, I have check at the 3D Mark 03 database there, my score is too low... hmm.gif  When you guys run the benchmark, do you close all other application before running it? Will ram affect the result too?  icon_question.gif

Thanks. notworthy.gif

Edited to add: I did not oc my 7600GS, memory 1000MHz, core 450MHz...  laugh.gif
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6XXX score in 3D Mark 03 for 7600GS is pretty low.... It should be at least 10k in 03 and 4-5k in 05...... nod.gif

Btw, how is the temperature for the card in idle and load?

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 21 2007, 04:40 PM)
6XXX score in 3D Mark 03 for 7600GS is pretty low.... It should be at least 10k in 03 and 4-5k in 05...... nod.gif

Btw, how is the temperature for the card in idle and load?
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Its definitely too low for a 7600GS unless maybe its a DDR2 version?Cause my 7300GT can score about 11k on 3D Mark 03...
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 21 2007, 04:40 PM)
6XXX score in 3D Mark 03 for 7600GS is pretty low.... It should be at least 10k in 03 and 4-5k in 05...... nod.gif

Btw, how is the temperature for the card in idle and load?
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Idle is 45C, while it run the benchmark, is about 55C-57C... biggrin.gif
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What card can substitute my current card 7600GS 512MB DDR2? I'm thinking of getting a cheaper card. Will a 7300GT 256MB be a good choice?
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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 21 2007, 09:11 PM)
What card can substitute my current card 7600GS 512MB DDR2? I'm thinking of getting a cheaper card. Will a 7300GT 256MB be a good choice?
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Still PALIT 7600GS DDR3 256Mb. RM 410 or less.
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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 21 2007, 09:11 PM)
What card can substitute my current card 7600GS 512MB DDR2? I'm thinking of getting a cheaper card. Will a 7300GT 256MB be a good choice?
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 21 2007, 09:24 PM)
Still PALIT 7600GS DDR3 256Mb. RM 410 or less.
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Aiyark still RM400+ im trying to get a card around 300+. Does -4 pipeline effect much? 7300gt 256 ddr3 seem a good buy while waiting for 7900 to drop price tongue.gif Most of the times i just played FM biggrin.gif
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sniper69,

What is ur core speed at that 100 'C lebih tu..?? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Jan 21 2007, 10:31 PM)
sniper69,

What is ur core speed at that 100 'C lebih tu..?? shakehead.gif
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820MHz Core, 950MHz Memory..., core vMODed that time...
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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 21 2007, 09:37 PM)
Aiyark still RM400+ im trying to get a card around 300+. Does -4 pipeline effect much? 7300gt 256 ddr3 seem a good buy while waiting for 7900 to drop price tongue.gif Most of the times i just played FM biggrin.gif
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if jus play FM, then 7300GT is definitely enough for u~ smile.gif
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Hey, my 7600GS idle at 50 C wor... is't normal?
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QUOTE(elfyong @ Jan 22 2007, 09:30 AM)
Hey, my 7600GS idle at 50 C wor... is't normal?
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50C with active cooling is quite normal.. mine is 47-48C.
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QUOTE(elfyong @ Jan 22 2007, 09:30 AM)
Hey, my 7600GS idle at 50 C wor... is't normal?
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Mine 52c idle passive cooling
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QUOTE(duarnt @ Jan 22 2007, 10:51 AM)
Mine 52c idle passive cooling
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not bad.. izzt sillent pipe ??
But when o'c ,passive cooling temp is higher..
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 21 2007, 03:43 PM)
Ya, I have check at the 3D Mark 03 database there, my score is too low... hmm.gif  When you guys run the benchmark, do you close all other application before running it? Will ram affect the result too?  icon_question.gif

Thanks. notworthy.gif

Edited to add: I did not oc my 7600GS, memory 1000MHz, core 450MHz...  laugh.gif
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my 7300GT DDR3 128mb (500/1400)AGP is able to hit 10141 tongue.gif, how come your 7600GS blink.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 22 2007, 11:13 AM)
not bad.. izzt sillent pipe ??
But when o'c ,passive cooling temp is higher..
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mine 73GT idle is aroud 52 temperature, using a normal heatsink fan.. why your one just 47-48? using a zalman heatsink fan ?
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:29 AM)
mine 73GT idle is aroud 52 temperature, using a normal heatsink fan.. why your one just 47-48? using a zalman heatsink fan ?
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mine is 41..
47 after vmod
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:26 AM)
my 7300GT DDR3 128mb (500/1400)AGP is able to hit 10141  tongue.gif, how come your 7600GS blink.gif
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I also don't understand why rclxub.gif , I will run the benchmark again when I free... laugh.gif

Edited to add: when you guys run the benchmark, the software you use is free version or registered version? unsure.gif

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7300GT VMEM mod any improvement? Im stuck with 790MHz / 1.55GHz
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 22 2007, 01:35 PM)
I also don't understand why rclxub.gif , I will run the benchmark again when I free... laugh.gif

Edited to add: when you guys run the benchmark, the software you use is free version or registered version?  unsure.gif
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mine is full version (registered version). tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 22 2007, 01:35 PM)
I also don't understand why rclxub.gif , I will run the benchmark again when I free... laugh.gif

Edited to add: when you guys run the benchmark, the software you use is free version or registered version?  unsure.gif
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03 doesn`t need registered version, 05/06, biggrin.gif crash, as a lot of ppl doing it..
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QUOTE(seveneleven @ Jan 22 2007, 01:59 PM)
7300GT VMEM mod any improvement? Im stuck with 790MHz / 1.55GHz
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so crazy.. 80nm is it ?
mine (AGP verion) just can hit about 625mhz, i think is 90nm.. didn`t mod anythings
but my memory can hit 1.8ghz tongue.gif
thanks Galaxy
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 22 2007, 10:29 AM)
50C with active cooling is quite normal.. mine is 47-48C.
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Mine one is passive colling also... winfast leadtek one...
but the OC climb up to max 63C (475/900), I think still ok....

Will try to OC to (500/950) -> (520/1000) ... winfast leadtek A7600GS users please share your OC experience... thanks! notworthy.gif

Refer This OC Guide

Safety temperature threshold is 60-75 C, right? icon_question.gif
Experts Overclockers, please recommend your own safe temperature threshold...
I'm not an expert, but mine own threshold is around 65... is't ok? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(elfyong @ Jan 22 2007, 02:27 PM)
Mine one is passive colling also... winfast leadtek one...
but the OC climb up to max 63C (475/900), I think still ok....

Will try to OC to (500/950)  -> (520/1000) ... winfast leadtek A7600GS users please share your OC experience... thanks!  notworthy.gif

Refer This OC Guide

Safety temperature threshold is 60-75 C, right?  icon_question.gif
Experts Overclockers, please recommend your own safe temperature threshold...
I'm not an expert, but mine own threshold is around 65... is't ok?  tongue.gif
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6 Series card most of them considered normal when hit 70°C~80°C, but 7 series? 60°C~75°C considered hot...but normally, 55°C~65°C as majority 7 series did, as well as mine...i'm not saying that all of 7 series can hold how hot, but mine, Galaxy 7300GT gDDR3 1.4ns, stable and performed normal even though the load temp shoot up to 110°C sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 22 2007, 01:35 PM)
I also don't understand why rclxub.gif , I will run the benchmark again when I free... laugh.gif

Edited to add: when you guys run the benchmark, the software you use is free version or registered version?  unsure.gif
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Did you manually override the AA/AF settings? Altered the resolution?
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 02:32 PM)
6 Series card most of them considered normal when hit 70°C~80°C, but 7 series? 60°C~75°C considered hot...but normally, 55°C~65°C as majority 7 series did, as well as mine...i'm not saying that all of 7 series can hold how hot, but mine, Galaxy 7300GT gDDR3 1.4ns, stable and performed normal even though the load temp shoot up to 110°C sweat.gif
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sweat.gif Are you the one who OC to 800 ++ core clock? sweat.gif
can fry rice and char koey tiau on the graphic card liao.... tongue.gif

by the way, anybody got some software that can read and print the temperature on the screen just like FPS?
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wah...en. sniper...110'c..that can boil water edi lorr.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 02:15 PM)
03 doesn`t need registered version, 05/06,  biggrin.gif  crash, as a lot of ppl doing it..
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so 03 don't need registered version also can use right? 05 after I run the benchmark, it did not give me mark but instead ask me to check it online...when I click it, it say submission failed pula... doh.gif I wonder did I get th correct version... whistling.gif

Then my 06 score ok? Please refer here.

Thanks. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(seveneleven @ Jan 22 2007, 01:59 PM)
7300GT VMEM mod any improvement? Im stuck with 790MHz / 1.55GHz
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What program u use to oc ur core at that speed..?
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QUOTE(elfyong @ Jan 22 2007, 02:47 PM)
sweat.gif Are you the one who OC to 800 ++ core clock?  sweat.gif
can fry rice and char koey tiau on the graphic card liao....  tongue.gif

by the way, anybody got some software that can read and print the temperature on the screen just like FPS?
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Jan 22 2007, 02:52 PM)
wah...en. sniper...110'c..that can boil water edi lorr.. sweat.gif
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that's mine there...taken from Old 7 Series's Thread tongue.gif...
i tried searched around my SS collection but failed, must have deleted maybe...anyway, the clock shown @805/910, but i can manage to get 820/950...well, why not you overclock it right away sniper69? (you surely ask...) well, the reason is, i ahve to re-shade the vGPU resister again...whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 22 2007, 03:32 PM)
so 03 don't need registered version also can use right? 05 after I run the benchmark, it did not give me mark but instead ask me to check it online...when I click it, it say submission failed pula... doh.gif  I wonder did I get th correct version... whistling.gif

Then my 06 score ok? Please refer here.

Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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my 06 score sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 03:51 PM)
my 06 score  sweat.gif 
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maybe you want to edit your photo size to 800x600... icon_idea.gif

I not sure you mark for 06 ok or not as I also not sure mine is ok... sweat.gif

Maybe someone can clarify that...anyone? unsure.gif
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820/1900 are you sure it has no artifacts?? I believe but it's unbelievable... sleep.gif"

by the way, anybody got some software that can read and print the temperature on the screen (during game play) just like some sw print FPS? anyone? anyone? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jan 22 2007, 02:45 PM)
Did you manually override the AA/AF settings? Altered the resolution?
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No, I use the default setting as I can change any setting becoz I did not register it... biggrin.gif So, what could be the reason for my situation ler...? unsure.gif

Thanks. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(elfyong @ Jan 22 2007, 04:25 PM)
820/1900 are you sure it has no artifacts?? I believe but it's unbelievable... sleep.gif"

by the way, anybody got some software that can read and print the temperature on the screen (during game play) just like some sw print FPS? anyone? anyone?  icon_question.gif
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FYI, yes i've got an artifacts when @820/950 (1900)...so i lowered the memory clock to optimal setting, 900MHz (1800MHz)...and it's good...

RivaTuner 2.0 (Final Release) will do the job...thumbup.gif, you can get it at Guru3D.com
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which driver is the best driver for 73GT ?
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 22 2007, 06:40 PM)
which driver is the best driver for 73GT ?
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my advice, get the latest one, which is 93.71, or you can try old but proven the best driver, 84.66 IIANM...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 07:28 PM)
my advice, get the latest one, which is 93.71, or you can try old but proven the best driver, 84.66 IIANM...
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The latest driver not 93.81? hmm.gif
I'm running 93.81.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Jan 22 2007, 07:57 PM)
The latest driver not 93.81? hmm.gif
I'm running 93.81.. sweat.gif
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latest official from nVIDIA, it's 93.71, 93.81 is official beta wink.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 10:18 PM)
latest official from nVIDIA, it's 93.71, 93.81 is official beta wink.gif
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which means 93.71 is better?
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QUOTE(liangko @ Jan 22 2007, 11:05 PM)
which means 93.71 is better?
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well, i don't say that...but from my experience, 91.31 and 91.47 is the best, but i feel much better with latest official driver, you can always try beta, but expect some minor bugs...
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does the PCI-E and the AGP score differs alot?mine on 7600GT DDR3 scored around 131xx (3dmark03) and 59xx (3d mark05) both oc'ed at 620/1580 (the max stable one)
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 22 2007, 04:06 PM)
maybe you want to edit your photo size to 800x600... icon_idea.gif

I not sure you mark for 06 ok or not as I also not sure mine is ok... sweat.gif

Maybe someone can clarify that...anyone?  unsure.gif
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try to compare wif the ORB ?

btw i got 39xx with my 7600GT. smile.gif
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Anyone willing to trade a Leadtek 7600GS GDDR2 256MB AGP with a Palit 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 AGP?

Btw, the Leadtek which i am currently using is oc'ed. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Well, i don't think anyone would agree would they?

@sniper69>> What beta means that the driver is still in the development/testing phase thus it will surely have some errors and/or bugs. SO unless you really want to oc on a beta driver.... laugh.gif

@liangko>> Not necessarily. A beta driver ould be worse or heck...it could run better than the official driver.
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jan 23 2007, 10:14 AM)
try to compare wif the ORB ?

btw i got 39xx with my 7600GT.  smile.gif
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ORB mean...? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 23 2007, 10:37 AM)
ORB mean...? sweat.gif
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Online Result Browser, here
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:08 AM)
Online Result Browser, here
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Thanks, I will run the benchmark again and compare it using ORB... biggrin.gif
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I know this have been said many times before, but 6k for 7600gs is really too low. Maybe its ure OS? Crappy drivers, reg etc etc.

For my 7300gt 128mb ddr3, out of the box, it was already 10k for 3dmark03. (freshly installed windows, with very little softwares yet).
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Need help deciding the following video cards. I'm not going to DIY overclocking. Anything to do with factory overclock, should be fine. My BEST budget would be less than RM500. I can stretch extra RM10-RM30. If the product is really good.

go for 7600GT better? icon_question.gif

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit
Fill Rate (billion texels/sec.) 4.8
Vertices/sec. (million) 500
Pixels Per Clock (peak) 12
Memory DDR3

VS

PALIT NVIDIA 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.4ns with Cooler Fan & Heat Sink: RM480
* Bus interface: PCI Express
* Memory Interface: 128 bit
* Core Clock: 560 MHz
* Memory Clock: 1.4GHz
* RAMDACs: 400 MHz
* Next-generation superscalar GPU architecture
* NVIDIA(R) CineFX(tm) 4.0 engine
* 64-bit floating point texture filtering and blending
* NVIDIA(R) SLI(tm) Ready
* NVIDIA(R) Intellisample(tm) 4.0 technology
* NVIDIA(R) PureVideo(tm) technology*
* NVIDIA(R) ForceWare(tm) Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)

thanks!
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 21 2007, 03:30 PM)
Hey guys, here is the 3D Mark 03 result:

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3D Mark 05 result have problem, see attachment below:

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As you can see from above attachment, it did not show me the score, it ask me to view my score online, but when I click on it, it will pop up a message say submission failed. So, I can see my 3D Mark 05 score. Any idea why this happen? Is it the 3D Mark 05 I have got problem?  icon_question.gif

Thanks for help.  notworthy.gif
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i think i know the problem. with your score for 7600GS is too low, i guess the main culprit is your system (ASRock 775Dual-VSTA
Kingston DDR266 256MB + Kingston DDR400 256MB (running at 266MHz). i think your's is not dual channel mode some more. plus asrock is not a performance class or motherboard

mine can hit 13xxx easily with my 7600GT (AGP version)

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Jan 23 2007, 04:41 PM)
I know this have been said many times before, but 6k for 7600gs is really too low. Maybe its ure OS? Crappy drivers, reg etc etc.

For my 7300gt 128mb ddr3, out of the box, it was already 10k for 3dmark03. (freshly installed windows, with very little softwares yet).
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hmm.gif maybe I will try reinstall windows and see how...

QUOTE(eddyann @ Jan 23 2007, 04:59 PM)
i think i know the problem. with your score for 7600GS is too low, i guess the main culprit is your system (ASRock 775Dual-VSTA
Kingston DDR266 256MB + Kingston DDR400 256MB (running at 266MHz). i think your's is not dual channel mode some more. plus asrock is not a performance class or motherboard

mine can hit 13xxx easily with my 7600GT (AGP version)
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Ya, my ram is not running dual channel as both ram is not identical. If I change to DDR2 1GB, could it help in the score? Just wondering... unsure.gif

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:55 PM)
Need help deciding the following video cards. I'm not going to DIY overclocking. Anything to do with factory overclock, should be fine. My BEST budget would be less than RM500. I can stretch extra RM10-RM30. If the product is really good.

go for 7600GT better?  icon_question.gif

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit
Fill Rate (billion texels/sec.) 4.8
Vertices/sec. (million) 500
Pixels Per Clock (peak) 12
Memory DDR3

VS

PALIT NVIDIA 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.4ns with Cooler Fan & Heat Sink: RM480
    *  Bus interface: PCI Express
    * Memory Interface: 128 bit
    * Core Clock: 560 MHz
    * Memory Clock: 1.4GHz
    * RAMDACs: 400 MHz
    * Next-generation superscalar GPU architecture
    * NVIDIA(R) CineFX(tm) 4.0 engine
    * 64-bit floating point texture filtering and blending
    * NVIDIA(R) SLI(tm) Ready
    * NVIDIA(R) Intellisample(tm) 4.0 technology
    * NVIDIA(R) PureVideo(tm) technology*
    * NVIDIA(R) ForceWare(tm) Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)

thanks!
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Yes, 7600GT is better. Becoz come with higher core and mem. cock.
But actually 7600GS with DDR3 and 7600GT are using the same core type. Only diff is 7600GS DDR3 is underclock a bit compare with 7600GT. Both also hv 12 PL and 128bit, 256Mb.
If budget tight, then can try get PALIT 7600GS DDR3 256Mb 128Bit. Only sell for RM 410 or less. When u o'c it. It will become a 7600GT. laugh.gif

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May i know what does this means :

Memory Interface 256-bit ?

Is this the same as the bitrate of the card as in this :

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 23 2007, 07:25 PM)
May i know what does this means :

Memory Interface 256-bit ?

Is this the same as the bitrate of the card as in this :

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns
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Its memory bandwidth.
Its more important than the memory size.
For example: If using same core type, same PL then, the card come with 128Mb, 256 bit > 256Mb, 128 bit.
I read from tom's hardware.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 23 2007, 07:31 PM)
Its memory bandwidth.
Its more important than the memory size.
For example: If using same core type, same PL then, the card come with 128Mb, 256 bit > 256Mb, 128 bit.
I read from tom's hardware.
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But is that Memory Interface 256-bit is the same as those that state 128MB 256bit?Cause the last time i ask around for the 9550, someone told me to get the 128bit version instead of the 64bit, and when i read about the instruction, it was stating MEMORY INTERFACE 128bit but the actual card was 64bit...Thats why i am confused.

Another example is the one stated by ghost321 before:

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit

Its stating two different bitrate...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 23 2007, 07:37 PM)
Another example is the one stated by ghost321 before:

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit

Its stating two different bitrate...
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Impossible.. im using this card now. Its 128-Bit.
256bit only available for 7900 series i think.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 23 2007, 07:39 PM)
Impossible.. im using this card now. Its 128-Bit.
256bit only available for 7900 series i think.
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lol..i know that the 76series are all 128bit but i qoute it from the spec he stated above...
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getting palit 7300GT soon..i wan to ask what is the diff between palit sonic version and non sonic version.thx
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This is my second benchmark for 3D Mark 03...score higher a bit...7202...better than before 6117...but still not very good... cry.gif

Edited to add: Forget to attach the result... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 23 2007, 08:10 PM)
This is my second benchmark for 3D Mark 03...score higher a bit...7202...better than before 6117...but still not very good... cry.gif

Edited to add: Forget to attach the result... tongue.gif

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so weird.... how come the score still so low. sweat.gif
how bout try to test wiv aquamark??
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How about closing all those other programs before you benchmark.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 23 2007, 07:42 PM)
lol..i know that the 76series are all 128bit but i qoute it from the spec he stated above...
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spec he stated above?u mean here or in website?must be typo error though sweat.gif
7300-7600 is at 128bit while 7800 and above is at 256bit..so any of u guys know which brand is the cheapest for 256bit?i'm on budget but still want with 256mb 256bit
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:55 PM)
Need help deciding the following video cards. I'm not going to DIY overclocking. Anything to do with factory overclock, should be fine. My BEST budget would be less than RM500. I can stretch extra RM10-RM30. If the product is really good.

go for 7600GT better?  icon_question.gif

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 [B]128-Bit 1.2ns[/b] with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit
Fill Rate (billion texels/sec.) 4.8
Vertices/sec. (million) 500
Pixels Per Clock (peak) 12
Memory DDR3

VS

PALIT NVIDIA 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.4ns with Cooler Fan & Heat Sink: RM480
    *  Bus interface: PCI Express
    * Memory Interface: 128 bit
    * Core Clock: 560 MHz
    * Memory Clock: 1.4GHz
    * RAMDACs: 400 MHz
    * Next-generation superscalar GPU architecture
    * NVIDIA(R) CineFX(tm) 4.0 engine
    * 64-bit floating point texture filtering and blending
    * NVIDIA(R) SLI(tm) Ready
    * NVIDIA(R) Intellisample(tm) 4.0 technology
    * NVIDIA(R) PureVideo(tm) technology*
    * NVIDIA(R) ForceWare(tm) Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)

thanks!
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 23 2007, 09:33 PM)
spec he stated above?u mean here or in website?must be typo error though sweat.gif
7300-7600 is at 128bit while 7800 and above is at 256bit..so any of u guys know which brand is the cheapest for 256bit?i'm on budget but still want with 256mb 256bit
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This is the spec that i mention.Look at the bolded words and i think you will understand what i mean.I do remember last time that there is 2 different bitrate on a same card but cant really remember what difference does it make.Or maybe i remembered wrongly...

I guess the cheapest, new 256bit card on nvidia right now should be 7900GS right?around 700++?


QUOTE(sohkeong @ Jan 23 2007, 08:07 PM)
getting palit 7300GT soon..i wan to ask what is the diff between palit sonic version and non sonic version.thx
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Well, IIRC, it should be a difference between factory OC and non factory OC version...

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 23 2007, 08:45 PM)
so weird.... how come the score still so low. sweat.gif
how bout try to test wiv aquamark??
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I also dun know why... maybe I will try reinstall my windows when I free, see got increase or not...sigh... shakehead.gif
QUOTE(jcheong @ Jan 23 2007, 08:52 PM)
How about closing all those other programs before you benchmark.
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I already close emule, msn messenger before running the benchmark...do you mean close speedfan and the VDOTool as well? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:55 PM)
Need help deciding the following video cards. I'm not going to DIY overclocking. Anything to do with factory overclock, should be fine. My BEST budget would be less than RM500. I can stretch extra RM10-RM30. If the product is really good.

go for 7600GT better?  icon_question.gif

GALAXY NVIDIA 7600GS 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.2ns with Galaxy Cooler Fan + Heat Sink + RAM Sink: RM520
Memory Interface 256-bit
Fill Rate (billion texels/sec.) 4.8
Vertices/sec. (million) 500
Pixels Per Clock (peak) 12
Memory DDR3

VS

PALIT NVIDIA 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit 1.4ns with Cooler Fan & Heat Sink: RM480
    *  Bus interface: PCI Express
    * Memory Interface: 128 bit
    * Core Clock: 560 MHz
    * Memory Clock: 1.4GHz
    * RAMDACs: 400 MHz
    * Next-generation superscalar GPU architecture
    * NVIDIA(R) CineFX(tm) 4.0 engine
    * 64-bit floating point texture filtering and blending
    * NVIDIA(R) SLI(tm) Ready
    * NVIDIA(R) Intellisample(tm) 4.0 technology
    * NVIDIA(R) PureVideo(tm) technology*
    * NVIDIA(R) ForceWare(tm) Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)

thanks!
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is the pricing even correct?are you sure that 7600GT is cheaper than 7600GS?maybe there's smthg wrong with the bold italic word i made..it is suppose to be 128bit..look at the name already 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit

QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 23 2007, 10:55 PM)
This is the spec that i mention.Look at the bolded words and i think you will understand what i mean.I do remember last time that there is 2 different bitrate on a same card but cant really remember what difference does it make.Or maybe i remembered wrongly...
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maybe u do remember it wrongly laugh.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 24 2007, 12:39 AM)
is the pricing even correct?are you sure that 7600GT is cheaper than 7600GS?maybe there's smthg wrong with the bold italic word i made..it is suppose to be 128bit..look at the name already 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 128-Bit
maybe u do remember it wrongly laugh.gif
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yes, he is right! smile.gif
Palit 7600GT is cheaper than the Galaxy 7600GS DDR3..... Or we can say it is more worth to get a Palit 7600GT than a Galaxy 7600GS. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 24 2007, 12:49 AM)
yes, he is right! smile.gif
Palit 7600GT is cheaper than the Galaxy 7600GS DDR3..... Or we can say it is more worth to get a Palit 7600GT than a Galaxy 7600GS. laugh.gif
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so Palit 7600GT is cheaper than Galaxy 7600GS?sorry, my bad notworthy.gif
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if i wanted to play games at higher reso and higher setting then i should opt for 7900gs? How long can it last? Proabably 2 years? Since 8series midrange is coming out soon, i dunno which to decide. If 7900gs which brand to go for? I saw galaxy one is a good overclocker with zalman fan compare to others.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 24 2007, 10:14 AM)
if i wanted to play games at higher reso and higher setting then i should opt for 7900gs? How long can it last? Proabably 2 years? Since 8series midrange is coming out soon, i dunno which to decide. If 7900gs which brand to go for? I saw galaxy one is a good overclocker with zalman fan compare to others.
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I upgraded from 7600GT to 7900GS, and the diff was really great. I run at 1280x1024 on 19" LCD, so the games FPS got much better. I could run at higher settings (but not max though a lot of games very demanding).
I could play GRAW at 40FPS instead of 20+ on the new card at moderately high settings.

I got a leadtek 7900GS cos the heatsink was bigger than the standard ones, but the Galaxy w/Zalman fan looks good too. You probably need to google around, but then don't take the OC performance of the reviews too seriously, cos OC depends on the card/batch also...
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 24 2007, 10:14 AM)
if i wanted to play games at higher reso and higher setting then i should opt for 7900gs? How long can it last? Proabably 2 years? Since 8series midrange is coming out soon, i dunno which to decide. If 7900gs which brand to go for? I saw galaxy one is a good overclocker with zalman fan compare to others.
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I am also deciding whether to wait for 8 series midrange graphic card or just buy high end 7 series such as 7900 GT.

However, who know if 8600 Ultra is better or can match 7900 GT performance?

Sure I am in dilemma. Any graphic card enthutiast type person can enlighten me?
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jan 24 2007, 10:51 AM)
I upgraded from 7600GT to 7900GS, and the diff was really great. I run at 1280x1024 on 19" LCD, so the games FPS got much better. I could run at higher settings (but not max though a lot of games very demanding).
I could play GRAW at 40FPS instead of 20+ on the new card at moderately high settings.

I got a leadtek 7900GS cos the heatsink was bigger than the standard ones, but the Galaxy w/Zalman fan looks good too. You probably need to google around, but then don't take the OC performance of the reviews too seriously, cos OC depends on the card/batch also...
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how much you get that Leadtek 7900GS of yours?at LYP?

is there any such thing as Palit 7600GS DDR3 256MB?i'm thinking of getting the lowest 256MB DDR3 as i'm on budget..probably later2 on might be getting 8800 thumbup.gif after upgrading to C2D/C2Q or anythg sweat.gif but for now, aiming the quite average one
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 23 2007, 07:42 PM)
lol..i know that the 76series are all 128bit but i qoute it from the spec he stated above...
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Maybe confusing but Memory Bandwidth and Interface are 2 different things.

Memory Bandwidth = 128bit
http://www.gfe.com.hk/Products.asp?class1=3

Memory Interface = 256bit
http://www.gfe.com.hk/Product_Details.asp?...lass1=3&class2=
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QUOTE(coolblade @ Jan 24 2007, 10:55 AM)
I am also deciding whether to wait for 8 series midrange graphic card or just buy high end 7 series such as 7900 GT.

However, who know if 8600 Ultra is better or can match 7900 GT performance?

Sure I am in dilemma. Any graphic card enthutiast type person can enlighten me?
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Initially I wanted to wait also, but then decided to get a 7900GS and enjoy some current games then later in the year only upgrade. I oredi plan upgrade GC every year ( depend on budget la )

QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 24 2007, 11:09 AM)
how much you get that Leadtek 7900GS of yours?at LYP?

is there any such thing as Palit 7600GS DDR3 256MB?i'm thinking of getting the lowest 256MB DDR3 as i'm on budget..probably later2 on might be getting 8800 thumbup.gif after upgrading to C2D/C2Q or anythg sweat.gif but for now, aiming the quite average one
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I got my Leadtek 7900GS @ RM 795 when it first launch...
But if budget then most ppl here recommend 7600GS /GE and O/C to 7600GT speeds and beyond...


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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jan 24 2007, 12:03 PM)
Initially I wanted to wait also, but then decided to get a 7900GS and enjoy some current games then later in the year only upgrade. I oredi plan upgrade GC every year ( depend on budget la )
that okay, just enjoy some games by using 7900 GS or 7900 GT for a while, then when the 8 series mid range out, and we found it is better than 7900 GT, maybe can upgrade lar... but when 8 series mid range out, I fear not many people willing to buy 2nd hand high end 7 series card? I mean if I want to sell the 7 series card to get some money back? Sure 8 series is fully directx 10 compliant lar.. people want a directx 10 gaming experience.

Quite hard to decide, because these high end 7 series are expensive. I should be careful to spend my money to justice the worthiness of these 7 series card.

Thanks for your point of view, vey99.

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I'm going through Zalman's website atm... Trying to look for the fan. Will someone point me in the right direction?

And i'm looking for the 7600-series fan.

EDIT: Does the Leadtek 700GS use a Zalman fan?

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QUOTE(coolblade @ Jan 24 2007, 12:42 PM)
that okay, just enjoy some games by using 7900 GS or 7900 GT for a while, then when the 8 series mid range out, and we found it is better than 7900 GT, maybe can upgrade lar... but when 8 series mid range out, I fear not many people willing to buy 2nd hand high end 7 series card? I mean if I want to sell the 7 series card to get some money back? Sure 8 series is fully directx 10 compliant lar.. people want a directx 10 gaming experience.

Quite hard to decide, because these high end 7 series are expensive. I should be careful to spend my money to justice the worthiness of these 7 series card.

Thanks for your point of view, vey99.
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for now, try get a used/2nd hand highend series7 for cheap. try garage sale. last few weeks many offered their 79GT,GTO and 7950GT for sale. only rm700-800. now offered mostly 7950GX2 sweat.gif for arround 1k.

i top up about rm300 after selling off my 66GT for a 79GT thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Jan 24 2007, 01:33 PM)
for now, try get a used/2nd hand highend series7 for cheap. try garage sale. last few weeks many offered their 79GT,GTO and 7950GT for sale. only rm700-800. now offered mostly 7950GX2 sweat.gif for arround 1k.

i top up about rm300 after selling off my 66GT for a 79GT thumbup.gif
I am considering to buy a 2nd hand 7 series from garage sales, too.. but i think i prefer a new one, untouched and never be O/C before.

Or waiting in pain the arrival of 8 series mid range... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 23 2007, 06:18 PM)
Yes, 7600GT is better. Becoz come with higher core and mem. cock.
But actually 7600GS with DDR3 and 7600GT are using the same core type. Only diff is 7600GS DDR3 is underclock a bit compare with 7600GT. Both also hv 12 PL and 128bit, 256Mb.
If budget tight, then can try get PALIT 7600GS DDR3 256Mb 128Bit. Only sell for RM 410 or less. When u o'c it. It will become a 7600GT. laugh.gif
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so you are saying 7600GT Palit 256MB DDR3 version is the best buy. Thanks! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 24 2007, 11:50 AM)
Maybe confusing but Memory Bandwidth and Interface are 2 different things.

Memory Bandwidth = 128bit
http://www.gfe.com.hk/Products.asp?class1=3

Memory Interface = 256bit
http://www.gfe.com.hk/Product_Details.asp?...lass1=3&class2=
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lol..this is what i am wondering..Thanks...
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 23 2007, 08:10 PM)
This is my second benchmark for 3D Mark 03...score higher a bit...7202...better than before 6117...but still not very good... cry.gif

Edited to add: Forget to attach the result... tongue.gif

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maybe u get a crippled card?try to check again with the seller..coz u can refund if it is really crippled
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 24 2007, 04:04 PM)
so you are saying 7600GT Palit 256MB DDR3 version is the best buy. Thanks!  rclxms.gif
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The price diff is close but some ppl do rather save the money coz 7600GS can OC near 7600GT performance.
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QUOTE(sohkeong @ Jan 25 2007, 06:56 AM)
maybe u get a crippled card?try to check again with the seller..coz u can refund if it is really crippled
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I found that when I run the benchmark, it have artifact at the Nature test there...when it reach that test, first still can see butterfly, then it turn to many line thing, can't see anything but a lot colorful line...so it is mean this card got problem or driver problem or else? rclxub.gif

Maybe I should reinstall the windows and see what will be the result...and check with atitool...if really got problem, then I will ask seller to change a new card for me... sweat.gif

Edited: typo

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QUOTE(sohkeong @ Jan 25 2007, 06:57 AM)
The price diff is close but some ppl do rather save the money coz 7600GS can OC near 7600GT performance.
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waa so keng arr your sig? sweat.gif 7600GS can OC near 7600GT performance..7600GT can OC near to?

what's the most important part in determining good graphic card than the other?is it
-memory?
-memory bandwidth?
-core clock?
-memory clock?
-ddr?

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7600GS got the same spec + core wiith 7600GT..the diff is just it clocks lower than GT
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I am wondering about this problem.I currently have a 7300GT.Assume that in maybe a few months time, my card cant really handle high end games anymore, by that time, should i be considering maybe those low end 8series (i assume it will be available at that time) or maybe opt for another 7300GT to make SLi?
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 25 2007, 06:22 PM)
I am wondering about this problem.I currently have a 7300GT.Assume that in maybe a few months time, my card cant really handle high end games anymore, by that time, should i be considering maybe those low end 8series (i assume it will be available at that time) or maybe opt for another 7300GT to make SLi?
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 25 2007, 06:22 PM)
I am wondering about this problem.I currently have a 7300GT.Assume that in maybe a few months time, my card cant really handle high end games anymore, by that time, should i be considering maybe those low end 8series (i assume it will be available at that time) or maybe opt for another 7300GT to make SLi?
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if i were you, i would opt for an 8 series. dx10~

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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Jan 25 2007, 08:59 PM)
if i were you, i would opt for an 8 series. dx10~
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Agree!
If you are a gamer, it is not worth to get another 7300GT to make SLI, but if it is 7600GT SLI then different story la~
For me, i will wait until the midrange 8series release then grab a new card.
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it depends.if u desperate to have 1..u can juz choose 7600GS..it is cheap n performance are not bad. series 8 are still a quite a long way to go

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If I use atitool to scan for artifacts about 30 minutes no error, is it consider no artifacts? or I need to test it longer? unsure.gif

If test with atitools no error but run 3Dmark 03, at test Mother Nature can only see many colorful lines, can see butterfly only on test start and middle of test, is it consider gc got problem or else? unsure.gif

Thanks for help and any input... notworthy.gif
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test with games, you see weird things going on then need to reduce clock speed.
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QUOTE(jcheong @ Jan 26 2007, 03:53 AM)
test with games, you see weird things going on then need to reduce clock speed.
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If I not oc, using stock clock...can test using game too? If at stock clock got weird thing in game then mean the gc got problem right? I will try to play some game, see got anything worng or not...hopefully my gc is ok... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 26 2007, 12:45 AM)
If I use atitool to scan for artifacts about 30 minutes no error, is it consider no artifacts? or I need to test it longer? unsure.gif

If test with atitools no error but run 3Dmark 03, at test Mother Nature can only see many colorful lines, can see butterfly only on test start and middle of test, is it consider gc got problem or else?  unsure.gif

Thanks for help and any input... notworthy.gif
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doh.gif, 30 minutes stress test considered stable, think again...in order to know it stable or not, game with it...try play games (heavy graphics, like F.E.A.R Series, Oblivion) for several hours...if any instability issues, it'll rise maybe 2~3 hours after long gaming session...or else to make it simple, you can run looping your 3DMark05

about stock GFX with artifacts, yes...whether overheated GPU or Memory, try cool it down especially those using passive cooling solution...
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 25 2007, 12:09 PM)
waa so keng arr your sig? sweat.gif 7600GS can OC near 7600GT performance..7600GT can OC near to?

what's the most important part in determining good graphic card than the other?is it
-memory?
-memory bandwidth?
-core clock?
-memory clock?
-ddr?
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What about all the same specs for 7600GT 256MB DDR3 1.4ns; except 1 called Colorful 7600GT with 256MB DDR3 @ 1.2ns for RM480 (bulk order). Good buy for this Colorful brand? thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
doh.gif, 30 minutes stress test considered stable, think again...in order to know it stable or not, game with it...try play games (heavy graphics, like F.E.A.R Series, Oblivion) for several hours...if any instability issues, it'll rise maybe 2~3 hours after long gaming session...or else to make it simple, you can run looping your 3DMark05

about stock GFX with artifacts, yes...whether overheated GPU or Memory, try cool it down especially those using passive cooling solution...
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not to forget Gothic3. my 7950gt also lag sometimes..
well..not sometimes..i'll lag everytime when opening a new map.. shakehead.gif
maybe i need to add in some RAMs.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
doh.gif, 30 minutes stress test considered stable, think again...in order to know it stable or not, game with it...try play games (heavy graphics, like F.E.A.R Series, Oblivion) for several hours...if any instability issues, it'll rise maybe 2~3 hours after long gaming session...or else to make it simple, you can run looping your 3DMark05

about stock GFX with artifacts, yes...whether overheated GPU or Memory, try cool it down especially those using passive cooling solution...
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hmm.gif ok, I will try play game for several hours to see...is SpellForce 2 consider as heavy graphic game? As for 3D Mark 05, free version can loop? or maybe I need to find registered version? unsure.gif

Maybe I should put a fan to blow at the whole gc area... before I change to after market cooler...now kinda poor... cry.gif

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 26 2007, 11:37 AM)
What about all the same specs for 7600GT 256MB DDR3 1.4ns; except 1 called Colorful 7600GT with 256MB DDR3 @ 1.2ns for RM480 (bulk order). Good buy for this Colorful brand?  thumbup.gif
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Colorful is a good buy, just like Palit..cheap gc thumbup.gif not at LYP is only cost RM450
if you want to go lower due to budget, try 7600GS DDR3 256
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does 73GT AGP version can support this zalman heatsink fan ? (VF700-AlCu LED)
the official website doesn`t list out 73GT in the compatible list and also incompatible list..
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I just upgrade from Ati7000 to Leadteck Nv7600GT now... graphics run smoother, but i do have some minor issue which it fail to read the VGA Bios data.... may need to try more later, and anyone of u using the same card?
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I download the latest ATITool (Ver. 0.26) yesterday nite and use it to find my gc max memory clock, it can go upto 830MHz, which mean can 1.66GHz... drool.gif but of course I will not oc it till that high lar...I just test it for fun...if I really want to oc it, I think I need to buy after market cooler so that I will not burn the ram chip later... sweat.gif

I leave it to run for artifact yesterday nite till this morning (5 hours ++), it have no artifact for stock clock... I play SpellForce 2 yesterday, it seem to have little artifact for the cursor area from time to time...but just little while lar...

I try to play rm and rmvb file, seem to be ok, no line like last time...only for few file got...maybe those file not encoding well... doh.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 27 2007, 08:17 AM)
I download the latest ATITool (Ver. 0.26) yesterday nite and use it to find my gc max memory clock, it can go upto 830MHz, which mean can 1.66GHz... drool.gif  but of course I will not oc it till that high lar...I just test it for fun...if I really want to oc it, I think I need to buy after market cooler so that I will not burn the ram chip later... sweat.gif

I leave it to run for artifact yesterday nite till this morning (5 hours ++), it have no artifact for stock clock... I play SpellForce 2 yesterday, it seem to have little artifact for the cursor area from time to time...but just little while lar...

I try to play rm and rmvb file, seem to be ok, no line like last time...only for few file got...maybe those file not encoding well... doh.gif

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which software can run artifact ? can tell me ? thx smile.gif
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 27 2007, 02:58 PM)
which software can run artifact ? can tell me ? thx    smile.gif
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guys...wanna ask something..which game test u use for testing g/card o/clocking? i'm using 3dmark03 mother nature test..is it ok? but at one time i was testing memclock at 850mhz i got no artifact using 3dmark03 mother nature..but when i was testing it with 3dmark05 (return to proxycon) i got artifacts (some blue dots on the dark parts at the early moments in the landing craft)...when i reduce it to 830, the dots gone..i think need some vmem boost up..heheh..back to my question, is it really artifacts or my driver problem or after this i have to use 3dmark05 for tests bcos it's more stressing?
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 26 2007, 11:37 AM)
What about all the same specs for 7600GT 256MB DDR3 1.4ns; except 1 called Colorful 7600GT with 256MB DDR3 @ 1.2ns for RM480 (bulk order). Good buy for this Colorful brand?  thumbup.gif
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IIRC, the lower the ns means that its better for OCing?
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 27 2007, 03:52 PM)
IIRC, the lower the ns means that its better for OCing?
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yes, it is true. but i think for OC purposes the card also depends on whether the capacitors can withstand it or not.

1.4ns RAMs theoretically are rated about 715MHz.
1.2ns RAMs around 833MHz.
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QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Jan 27 2007, 03:01 PM)
get da latest ATITool Here
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QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Jan 27 2007, 03:01 PM)
get da latest ATITool Here
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btw, thx nod.gif

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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Jan 27 2007, 06:10 PM)
i am using a nvidia GC, NV dont have that software ?
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Do you mean OC tool for nvidia? If yes, RivaTuner it is. Btw, ATITool also able to OC nvidia cards, at least my 7600gs. smile.gif

Search your tools at here.
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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jan 27 2007, 04:42 PM)
yes, it is true. but i think for OC purposes the card also depends on whether the capacitors can withstand it or not.

1.4ns RAMs theoretically are rated about 715MHz.
1.2ns RAMs around 833MHz.
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QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Jan 25 2007, 08:59 PM)
if i were you, i would opt for an 8 series. dx10~
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Ok.But how long will it take for a low/mid end 8series to arrive?Not to say whether it will be affordable or not.

QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 25 2007, 10:03 PM)
Agree!
If you are a gamer, it is not worth to get another 7300GT to make SLI, but if it is 7600GT SLI then different story la~
For me, i will wait until the midrange 8series release then grab a new card.
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Ok.Thanks for the suggestion...

QUOTE(nonamekid @ Jan 25 2007, 10:09 PM)
it depends.if u desperate to have 1..u can juz choose 7600GS..it is cheap n performance are not bad. series 8 are still a quite a long way to go
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Well, i am not really desperate but considering gaming is part of my life, i would want to be able to run game smoothly at least even not in Max setting.7600GS would not be in my list of upgrading if i really wanted to do so, because it aint that much of an upgrade.Thats why i am considering of 7300GT SLi, or the 7900GS or wait for a low/mid end 8 series.Anyway, would 7300GT SLi have improvement in term of gaming and what improvement would SLi give to a user?
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forgive me if this question hav been asked b4 cos kind of pening reading thru all those pages to find wat I'm looking for... rclxub.gif

for those who had/currently OC Palit 7600gs ddr3, may I know wat's the most stable clock speed if just using stock fan??? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 28 2007, 01:44 AM)
Well, i am not really desperate but considering gaming is part of my life, i would want to be able to run game smoothly at least even not in Max setting.7600GS would not be in my list of upgrading if i really wanted to do so, because it aint that much of an upgrade.Thats why i am considering of 7300GT SLi, or the 7900GS or wait for a low/mid end 8 series.Anyway, would 7300GT SLi have improvement in term of gaming and what improvement would SLi give to a user?
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http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/11631
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,5442.html
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expected on March. I dont know about 7300GT SLI performance but 7900GS still wasn't a bad choice either.

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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 28 2007, 09:45 AM)
http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/11631
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,5442.html
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

expected on March. I dont know about 7300GT SLI performance but 7900GS still wasn't a bad choice either.
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Thats the main problem i had right now.7300GT SLi would be the cheapest solution of an upgrade i could think of right now.Considering the fact that the 7900GS is about RM700 right now, its still bothering me on whether should wait for maybe 8300GT or upgrade it now.Anyway, thanks alot for the help.March aint that far either.Maybe i should wait for while.Would you guys think that the 8300GT will still beat 7300GT SLi?
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Guys, wan some opinions from u all...
I'm going to buy a 7600GT, but not sure which brand is better. There are 3 brands i'm aiming rite now, XpertVision, Palit, Colourful, which 1 u guys will choose?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 28 2007, 05:09 PM)
Guys, wan some opinions from u all...
I'm going to buy a 7600GT, but not sure which brand is better. There are 3 brands i'm aiming rite now, XpertVision, Palit, Colourful, which 1 u guys will choose?
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For me, Palit cuz I don't see much of the other 2 brands on any sites, shop.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
doh.gif, 30 minutes stress test considered stable, think again...in order to know it stable or not, game with it...try play games (heavy graphics, like F.E.A.R Series, Oblivion) for several hours...if any instability issues, it'll rise maybe 2~3 hours after long gaming session...or else to make it simple, you can run looping your 3DMark05

about stock GFX with artifacts, yes...whether overheated GPU or Memory, try cool it down especially those using passive cooling solution...
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mine is using active cooling...using Palit stock HSF...is 45C idle consider hot for the GPU? about the ram temp, maybe really will be very hot as Kucingfight say it is using Infineon 2.0NS factory-overvolted... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 28 2007, 12:35 PM)
Thats the main problem i had right now.7300GT SLi would be the cheapest solution of an upgrade i could think of right now.Considering the fact that the 7900GS is about RM700 right now, its still bothering me on whether should wait for maybe 8300GT or upgrade it now.Anyway, thanks alot for the help.March aint that far either.Maybe i should wait for while.Would you guys think that the 8300GT will still beat 7300GT SLi?
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cheapest 7900GS is Colorful RM615 thumbup.gif

QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 28 2007, 05:09 PM)
Guys, wan some opinions from u all...
I'm going to buy a 7600GT, but not sure which brand is better. There are 3 brands i'm aiming rite now, XpertVision, Palit, Colourful, which 1 u guys will choose?
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all 3 are good. I don't know about XpertVision's price but Palit and Colorful are cheap and I'm pretty sure many would recommend Palit. Colorful is cheaper I think and I'm using it, 7600GT thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 29 2007, 12:23 AM)
cheapest 7900GS is Colorful RM615 thumbup.gif
all 3 are good. I don't know about XpertVision's price but Palit and Colorful are cheap and I'm pretty sure many would recommend Palit. Colorful is cheaper I think and I'm using it, 7600GT thumbup.gif
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Thanks ur opinion! smile.gif
Btw, may I know how far u can OC ur card? Default core/mem should be 560/1400, rite?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 29 2007, 12:35 AM)
Thanks ur opinion! smile.gif
Btw, may I know how far u can OC ur card? Default core/mem should be 560/1400, rite?
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that one ar, dont know lorr coz I dont OC laugh.gif but the default is correct biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 29 2007, 12:50 AM)
that one ar, dont know lorr coz I dont OC laugh.gif but the default is correct biggrin.gif
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then do u do any benchmark for the card? brows.gif
coz i need to know hows the performance of the card, if ok, then i will go to grab 1 at 2moro after my class. cool2.gif
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benchmark ar?just started downloading 3dmark and rivatuner, maybe later can only try tongue.gif maybe you can check Kataro's benchmark previous pages for his Palit 7600GS thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 29 2007, 01:04 AM)
benchmark ar?just started downloading 3dmark and rivatuner, maybe later can only try tongue.gif maybe you can check Kataro's benchmark previous pages for his Palit 7600GS thumbup.gif
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haha...my benchmark mark is very low ler... sweat.gif currently I suspect the windows I use got problem or the ram chip too hot causing me getting little artifact while gaming and some problem in 3D Mark 03 Mother Nature test...will get a new windows xp installation cd and see whether the problem still persist...if really still got problem, then maybe I need to send back the card to the seller to exchange a new one... cry.gif

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ok here's my 3DMark03 Colorful 7600GT DDR3 at stock. Also not so high ler sweat.gif

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 28 2007, 12:35 PM)
Would you guys think that the 8300GT will still beat 7300GT SLi?
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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 29 2007, 08:36 AM)
ok here's my 3DMark03 Colorful 7600GT DDR3 at stock. Also not so high ler sweat.gif

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with some OC u can hit 13xxx mark anytime on 7600GT. mine is around 131xx-134xx on 620/785
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Jan 29 2007, 10:56 AM)
I dont know the performance of 8300GT.. but i know my 7300GT SLi's performance...

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OMG..24k in 3D Mark03?Thats like twice of my current 7300GT.Seems like a worthit upgrade though..Anyway, would you see significant increase in performance during gaming when using single card and SLi?
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 29 2007, 04:25 PM)
OMG..24k in 3D Mark03?Thats like twice of my current 7300GT.Seems like a worthit upgrade though..Anyway, would you see significant increase in performance during gaming when using single card and SLi?
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Not playing games yet.. too buzy on my assingment... shakehead.gif

but im sure there is significant increace in performance during playing games...

my single card score 14000+ and when i SLi it, my score bcome 23000+ sure there is a different thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Jan 29 2007, 04:39 PM)
Not playing games yet.. too buzy on my assingment... shakehead.gif

but im sure there is significant increace in performance during playing games...

my single card score 14000+ and when i SLi it, my score bcome 23000+ sure there is a different thumbup.gif
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Well, i guess it might have some difference.My single card on stock get about 11k on 3Dmark03..I would hope for an upgrade and SLi seems like the way to go for me...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 29 2007, 04:58 PM)
Well, i guess it might have some difference.My single card on stock get about 11k on 3Dmark03..I would hope for an upgrade and SLi seems like the way to go for me...
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All I can tell you is not to believe on those score as its kinda pointless. My experience with 7300, 7600 and 7900 series sli tell me that the 7300 sli will never out perform my 7900gs single card on the resolution I game on. Also its much easier to recommend you the card base on the resolution you played all your games. If you can afford the 8800 series, its will be definitely better than any 7900 series sli.
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how about 7900gs vs x1950pro??
or maybe x1650xt can beat 7900gs lorr??

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Jan 29 2007, 05:39 PM)
If you can afford the 8800 series, its will be definitely better than any 7900 series sli.
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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Jan 29 2007, 10:49 PM)
how about 7900gs vs x1950pro??
or maybe x1650xt can beat 7900gs lorr??
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x1650xt beat 7900gs??!! shakehead.gif
x1650xt competitor is 7600GT, impossible to let it beat 7900GS....
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if i got x1600pro ddr2, i buy a 7300gt for replacement and wait for 8series, is it worth?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 30 2007, 01:25 PM)
if i got x1600pro ddr2, i buy a 7300gt for replacement and wait for 8series, is it worth?
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hi, need a lil help, i'm running on e6300, 7800gt not OC'ed.
when i first set up my com i got a 16k score on 3dmark03
but after one day i run the test again i only got a 9k score.. Can someone tell me whats my prob >"< it seems that cpu2 test is damn slow
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 30 2007, 01:25 PM)
if i got x1600pro ddr2, i buy a 7300gt for replacement and wait for 8series, is it worth?
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Well, considering the fact that DX10 is still a long way to go, maybe some people could not wait for it to arrive..
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 30 2007, 06:27 PM)
Well, considering the fact that DX10 is still a long way to go, maybe some people could not wait for it to arrive..
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Ya, like me, I'm going to buy a 7600GT 2moro... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 30 2007, 07:32 PM)
Ya, like me, I'm going to buy a 7600GT 2moro... tongue.gif
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From your sig there, look like you will get the Palit 7600GT...hehe...good choice there...post the score here after getting it ok? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 30 2007, 07:32 PM)
Ya, like me, I'm going to buy a 7600GT 2moro... tongue.gif
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Then buy PALIT 7600GT or PALIT 7600GS DDDR3 256Mb. Only RM 410. So cheap !
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Colorful 7600GT 256 DDR3 also cheap RM450 only or 7900GS RM615 thumbup.gif

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Colorful 7600GT 256 DDR3 also cheap RM450 only or 7900GS RM615 thumbup.gif
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Spot on man, squeeze a little and go for the 7900GS. Totally worth it, O/C'able, and you get 256bit card some more. Nice for 1280x1024 gaming. Of course if you are at 1024x768 by all means get the 7600GT, its enuf...
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Just bought myself a Palit 7600GT at RM430 at LYP. Will do the benchmark later and then post up the result here!! smile.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 31 2007, 02:52 PM)
Just bought myself a Palit 7600GT at RM430 at LYP. Will do the benchmark later and then post up the result here!! smile.gif
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MUrah tu... drool.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 31 2007, 02:52 PM)
Just bought myself a Palit 7600GT at RM430 at LYP. Will do the benchmark later and then post up the result here!! smile.gif
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Wow, so cheap. My Palit 7600GS already cost RM410, how come 7600GT just RM430... cry.gif

Ya, post your result after benchmark... brows.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 31 2007, 09:57 PM)
Wow, so cheap. My Palit 7600GS already cost RM410, how come 7600GT just RM430... cry.gif

Ya, post your result after benchmark... brows.gif

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Actually its the same card i think. Only 7600GS was set downclock a bit.
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Jan 31 2007, 09:57 PM)
Wow, so cheap. My Palit 7600GS already cost RM410, how come 7600GT just RM430... cry.gif

Ya, post your result after benchmark... brows.gif

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Hehe, here is the result :

3D mark05:
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3D mark05 (OC) :
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3D mark06:
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3D mark06 (OC) :
[attachmentid=188567]

The default core/mem is 560/1400, i able to OC it till 680/1640, ald limit for the memory since when i set to 1650, it hang! But i think the core able to go higher, mayb will try next time.

I didn't OC my proc, jus OC the GC only! laugh.gif

Idle temp for the GC is 52C (izit too high? unsure.gif ), full load will be 65C and 71C(OC)...



QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 31 2007, 10:09 PM)
Actually its the same card i think. Only 7600GS was set downclock a bit.
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Ya, is exactly the same i think. Mine 1 is look like this, http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7600GT.html. smile.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 31 2007, 10:25 PM)
Hehe, here is the result :

3D mark05:
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3D mark05 (OC) :
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3D mark06:
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3D mark06 (OC) :
[attachmentid=188567]

The default core/mem is 560/1400, i able to OC it till 680/1640, ald limit for the memory since when i set to 1650, it hang! But i think the core able to go higher, mayb will try next time.

I didn't OC my proc, jus OC the GC only! laugh.gif

Idle temp for the GC is 52C (izit too high? unsure.gif ), full load will be 65C and 71C(OC)...
Ya, is exactly the same i think. Mine 1 is look like this, http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7600GT.htmlsmile.gif
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Temp is higher as compare to my former 7600ge. The idle temp usually is around 43c and load temp around 55c like that. Anyway not bad for what you had paid for.
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Jan 31 2007, 10:31 PM)
Temp is higher as compare to my former 7600ge. The idle temp usually is around 43c and load temp around 55c like that. Anyway not bad for what you had paid for.
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ya, i think the temp also quite high, but the temp still consider as safe, rite?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 31 2007, 10:59 PM)
ya, i think the temp also quite high, but the temp still consider as safe, rite?
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I think it still safe. Try look at NVIDIA Control Panel under Monitoring temperature levels. Mine 56C, didn't OC. Takut laa OC OC nie. So noob in this stuff doh.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Jan 31 2007, 10:25 PM)
Hehe, here is the result :

3D mark05:
[attachmentid=188562]

3D mark05 (OC) :
[attachmentid=188564]

3D mark06:
[attachmentid=188566]

3D mark06 (OC) :
[attachmentid=188567]

The default core/mem is 560/1400, i able to OC it till 680/1640, ald limit for the memory since when i set to 1650, it hang! But i think the core able to go higher, mayb will try next time.

I didn't OC my proc, jus OC the GC only! laugh.gif

Idle temp for the GC is 52C (izit too high? unsure.gif ), full load will be 65C and 71C(OC)...
Ya, is exactly the same i think. Mine 1 is look like this, http://www.palit.biz/en/products/nv_pcie_7600GT.htmlsmile.gif
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Nice result there...ya, exactly the same card like mine...just the clock is different...if I know, I get 7600GT better, just RM20 different... cry.gif

mine idle temp only 45C without OC...

Anyway, want to ask a question, normally you guy run the benchmark, you use what resolution? Yesterday night, I set the resolution of my desktop to 1024x768 to match the resolution in 3D Mark 03 resolution, and the score got higher a bit...but still lower than that time I got 7200++... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 1 2007, 01:45 AM)
I think it still safe. Try look at NVIDIA Control Panel under Monitoring temperature levels. Mine 56C, didn't OC. Takut laa OC OC nie. So noob in this stuff doh.gif
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As long as lower then 70C is consider safe! smile.gif

QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 1 2007, 08:21 AM)
Nice result there...ya, exactly the same card like mine...just the clock is different...if I know, I get 7600GT better, just RM20 different... cry.gif

mine idle temp only 45C without OC...

Anyway, want to ask a question, normally you guy run the benchmark, you use what resolution? Yesterday night, I set the resolution of my desktop to 1024x768 to match the resolution in 3D Mark 03 resolution, and the score got higher a bit...but still lower than that time I got 7200++... shakehead.gif
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mine using 1024 x 768 for both 3D Mark05, 06.
huh, jus 45C? The temp very low la, wonder why the temp for my card so high like hell.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 1 2007, 08:21 AM)
Nice result there...ya, exactly the same card like mine...just the clock is different...if I know, I get 7600GT better, just RM20 different... cry.gif

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Same one la.. why dont u guys post some pic here let us compare??
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 1 2007, 08:39 AM)
As long as lower then 70C is consider safe!  smile.gif
mine using 1024 x 768 for both 3D Mark05, 06.
huh, jus 45C? The temp very low la, wonder why the temp for my card so high like hell.... sad.gif
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I also wonder why. Before I apply AS5 to it, it is also 45C. Even thought my card temp not high, but when test with 3D Mark 03, on the game test 3 and 4, it is not so good, got something weird...the test 4, Mother Nature can see the actual image, only see many color lines... cry.gif I already buy new windows installation CD and install with the latest one, but the result is the same...I will test with game later, if the problem not solve, I will send back the card to the seller to exchange for a new one... sigh... doh.gif
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my benchmark after OC a bit to 680/1500

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nice score afosz

btw, my 7300gt on normal usage is 52C, everything on stock

shud be ok right?

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QUOTE(jayhan @ Feb 1 2007, 01:42 PM)
nice score afosz

btw, my 7300gt on normal usage is 52C, everything on stock

shud be ok right?
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50C-60C is normal I guess sweat.gif just starting to learn this OC stuff biggrin.gif
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my benchmark after OC a bit to 680/1500

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nice result u have! rclxms.gif
try to OC higher?? brows.gif

QUOTE(jayhan @ Feb 1 2007, 01:42 PM)
nice score afosz

btw, my 7300gt on normal usage is 52C, everything on stock

shud be ok right?
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is consider normal, actually nowadays the GC can tahan quite high temperature, even 80-90C at full load temp but still can function. So ur temp is safe la~ smile.gif

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 1 2007, 02:50 PM)
nice result u have! rclxms.gif
try to OC higher?? brows.gif
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OC higher?dont want laa..this should be enough biggrin.gif maybe later.. whistling.gif
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after mild voltmodding my 79GT to 630/810, my 3DMark06 still around 4800 and 9500 for 3DMark05. seem too low for a voltmodded card sweat.gif

at 1.4v core, speed can reach 735 but seem unstable. hang for few seconds during benchmark but still can finish with very low mark. btw, my temp seem high, 52c idle 7xc load with open case sweat.gif




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QUOTE(toughnut @ Feb 2 2007, 08:37 AM)
after mild voltmodding my 79GT to 630/810, my 3DMark06 still around 4800 and 9500 for 3DMark05. seem too low for a voltmodded card sweat.gif

at 1.4v core, speed can reach 735 but seem unstable. hang for few seconds during benchmark but still can finish with very low mark. btw, my temp seem high, 52c idle 7xc load with open case sweat.gif
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Some extra speed doesnt mean will show alot difference in 3dmark one. 630/810 speed aint actually very high as well. On my former 7900gs, both also can reach 650/850 without any modding. Anyway the most important thing is performance gain over the game you play. If you dont see much performance gained. might as well run them back at the normal speed or reduce the speed to reduce the card temp.
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hey guys... Im just bought a new WinFast Geforce 7600Gt. I want to know how to see its gpu and temperature if there is any software....thanks

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hey guys... Im just bought a new WinFast Geforce 7600Gt. I want to know how to see its gpu and temperature if there is any software....thanks
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You can check it through your nvidia control panel
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ATItool also can check the temperature
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QUOTE(coolblade @ Feb 2 2007, 03:10 PM)
ATItool also can check the temperature
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from Nvidia Control Panel -> Monitoring temperature level is also at its right temperature right? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(neil85 @ Feb 2 2007, 11:53 AM)
hey guys... Im just bought a new WinFast Geforce 7600Gt. I want to know how to see its gpu and temperature if there is any software....thanks
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RivaTurner, ATITool, Nvidia control panel....

Btw, i wana ask, if i ald OC my card (memory) to the limit, like mine, from 1400 to 1640, is thr others way to make it higher? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 2 2007, 04:12 PM)
RivaTurner, ATITool, Nvidia control panel....

Btw, i wana ask, if i ald OC my card (memory) to the limit, like mine, from 1400 to 1640, is thr others way to make it higher? unsure.gif
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why wanna make it higher?already enough lorr that one tongue.gif mine is at 1500, can OC a bit more but when I run 3DMark, it hangs. So don't want to push more sweat.gif
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@RokXIII

How about placing bigger heatsink on these RAM? Hopefully can push the clock higher.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 2 2007, 04:24 PM)
why wanna make it higher?already enough lorr that one tongue.gif mine is at 1500, can OC a bit more but when I run 3DMark, it hangs. So don't want to push more sweat.gif
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laugh.gif , jus wana try how far it can go, now jus able to do at 1640, wana try to push till 1700... the core is high enuff for me, 560 -> 680, and it still can go higher! So i wish the mem can go higher a bit more lo! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Feb 2 2007, 08:37 AM)
after mild voltmodding my 79GT to 630/810, my 3DMark06 still around 4800 and 9500 for 3DMark05. seem too low for a voltmodded card sweat.gif

at 1.4v core, speed can reach 735 but seem unstable. hang for few seconds during benchmark but still can finish with very low mark. btw, my temp seem high, 52c idle 7xc load with open case sweat.gif
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how do you measure vcore..?
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QUOTE(jayhan @ Feb 1 2007, 01:42 PM)
nice score afosz

btw, my 7300gt on normal usage is 52C, everything on stock

shud be ok right?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 2 2007, 04:12 PM)
RivaTurner, ATITool, Nvidia control panel....

Btw, i wana ask, if i ald OC my card (memory) to the limit, like mine, from 1400 to 1640, is thr others way to make it higher? unsure.gif
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rivatuner can help u a lot smile.gif

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Im using Galaxy NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB DDR3 with Zalman Fan. I dont think it working 100%. I need more.

Any suggestion?
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QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 2 2007, 09:31 PM)
Im using Galaxy NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB DDR3 with Zalman Fan. I dont think it working 100%. I need more.

Any suggestion?
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Then wait till the mid-range 8 series or the ATI R600 release then change to other new card lo~
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Feb 2 2007, 08:37 AM)
after mild voltmodding my 79GT to 630/810, my 3DMark06 still around 4800 and 9500 for 3DMark05. seem too low for a voltmodded card sweat.gif

at 1.4v core, speed can reach 735 but seem unstable. hang for few seconds during benchmark but still can finish with very low mark. btw, my temp seem high, 52c idle 7xc load with open case sweat.gif
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that's because your card (as well everybody tongue.gif), lowering the clock to safer range due to overheated even though the card's pretty cool...

QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 2 2007, 09:31 PM)
Im using Galaxy NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB DDR3 with Zalman Fan. I dont think it working 100%. I need more.

Any suggestion?
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what do you not 100% working? rclxub.gif

laugh.gif @afosz
your card should score higher (refering to your core clock), but well...it's just a score tongue.gif, my 7300GT got 13056 @625/900 brows.gif...FYI, even though you overclock kaw², you'll get almost same score as before overclocked kaw², but you can feel the difference in real gaming, the gameplay will even faster than ever thumbup.gif...

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 3 2007, 12:02 AM)
that's because your card (as well everybody tongue.gif), lowering the clock to safer range due to overheated even though the card's pretty cool...
what do you not 100% working? rclxub.gif
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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Trying playing newer games that you have played before using your FX5200. You should notice the increased performance.
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QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM)
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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actually there are a lot of changes btw both cards! laugh.gif
no need to play hardcore game like oblivion or COH or FEAR, try play NFS:Most Wanted or Underground 2, then u might able to see the different... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM)
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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For midrange GC .. i suggest u try 7600GT .. not so xpensive.. only RM480++ like that.
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QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM)
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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ohmy.gif i wonder you haven't notice the difference. GeForceFX vs GeForce7...doh.gif, even highest GeForceFX 5950 Ultra won't be as good as GeForce 7300GT tongue.gif...anyway, you can try run NFS : Most Wanted with GeForceFX 5200 and GeForce 7300, with GeForce7, you'll see the HDR (High Dynamic Range) while GeForceFX series won't and many more, i can only point that feature only, since that's one of the easiest way to see the difference tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 3 2007, 12:02 AM)
laugh.gif @afosz
your card should score higher (refering to your core clock), but well...it's just a score tongue.gif, my 7300GT got 13056 @625/900 brows.gif...FYI, even though you overclock kaw², you'll get almost same score as before overclocked kaw², but you can feel the difference in real gaming, the gameplay will even faster than ever thumbup.gif...
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well when I run 3DMark again, the score still around 13k, either a bit more or a bit less. But I'm sure I feel the graphic difference in gaming, especially in my NWN2. Lesser lagg than before I would say thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM)
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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Is that AGP or PCIE? If PCIE, should go for 7600GT at least and the price is nice too. I got mine for RM450 while RokXIII got for RM410 thumbup.gif now that's a mid-range card
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QUOTE(ravemaster222003 @ Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM)
I didnt feel any changes between FX5200 & 7300GT.

1. Is there any mid-range GC & cheap?
2. Is there any way to see the changes between 5200 & 7300 eg. play hardcore game or etc?
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big differrence. i used to own an FX5500 before switching to 7300GT.
or u play solitaire only? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 3 2007, 07:02 PM)
well when I run 3DMark again, the score still around 13k, either a bit more or a bit less. But I'm sure I feel the graphic difference in gaming, especially in my NWN2. Lesser lagg than before I would say thumbup.gif
Is that AGP or PCIE? If PCIE, should go for 7600GT at least and the price is nice too. I got mine for RM450 while RokXIII got for RM410 thumbup.gif now that's a mid-range card
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RokXIII got that card for RM430 lar...RM410 is Palit 7600GS... flex.gif
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 3 2007, 08:44 PM)
RokXIII got that card for RM430 lar...RM410 is Palit 7600GS...  flex.gif
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Ya, i got my card at 430..

Btw, honestly, i'm still not very satisfy with this card or mayb... i demand too high? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 4 2007, 01:13 AM)
Ya, i got my card at 430..

Btw, honestly, i'm still not very satisfy with this card or mayb... i demand too high? tongue.gif
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not demand la bro..huhu cz u desire to get more than dat nod.gif ..huhu myb cash the prob laugh.gif if no tight budget think u'll get it till its satisfy urself wink.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 4 2007, 01:13 AM)
Ya, i got my card at 430..

Btw, honestly, i'm still not very satisfy with this card or mayb... i demand too high? tongue.gif
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Why not satisfy?? 7600GT can play any high-end game alrdy. Or u looking for higher clock speed??
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 3 2007, 08:44 PM)
RokXIII got that card for RM430 lar...RM410 is Palit 7600GS...  flex.gif
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oops, my bad tongue.gif

yours is the one RM410, RokXIII 7600GT RM430 and mine RM450 blush.gif just remembered the RM20 difference doh.gif

@RokXIII
still not satisfy meh? with your 3dmark result or with gaming performance? I'm quite satisfy with my gaming performance, but not 3dmark result shakehead.gif maybe gonna change mobo and make SLI or just get a new 8series card later. either way, I am gonna change to SLI mobo flex.gif

btw, SLI or higher single card is better?
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Single high end card is a better choice. smile.gif
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single is better than SLI since SLI is not as popular, maybe discont soon
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 4 2007, 08:41 AM)
Why not satisfy?? 7600GT can play any high-end game alrdy. Or u looking for higher clock speed??
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mayb i'm just not satisfy with the 3d mark result, even i know the result didn't mean everything, but i still feel disappoint with it.... blush.gif

QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 4 2007, 10:40 AM)
oops, my bad tongue.gif

yours is the one RM410, RokXIII 7600GT RM430 and mine RM450 blush.gif just remembered the RM20 difference doh.gif

@RokXIII
still not satisfy meh? with your 3dmark result or with gaming performance? I'm quite satisfy with my gaming performance, but not 3dmark result shakehead.gif maybe gonna change mobo and make SLI or just get a new 8series card later. either way, I am gonna change to SLI mobo flex.gif

btw, SLI or higher single card is better?
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single higher card should be better.
For what i heard from others, not all games can support SLI, mean even u make it SLI, it doesn't bring much differences compare with single card. But sure can give u a much more better 3D mark result...

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o really?well just stick to single card then biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 4 2007, 10:40 AM)
oops, my bad tongue.gif

yours is the one RM410, RokXIII 7600GT RM430 and mine RM450 blush.gif just remembered the RM20 difference doh.gif

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To think that the different is only RM20, kinda regret not getting Palit 7600GT... cry.gif btw, I will send back my Palit 7600GS to the seller for checking tomorrow...if lucky enough, might get a new replacement gc... drool.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 4 2007, 10:40 AM)
yours is the one RM410, RokXIII 7600GT RM430 and mine RM450 blush.gif just remembered the RM20 difference doh.gif

btw, SLI or higher single card is better?
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Colorful cost more than PALIT ? Then i rather take PALIT lol.
Ofcoz higher single is better (7900GS>7600GS SLi) , and its cheaper then SLi.
If SLi then will cause u difficult to put 3rd party NB cooler, and consume more power.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 4 2007, 07:32 PM)
Colorful cost more than PALIT ? Then i rather take PALIT lol.
Ofcoz higher single is better (7900GS>7600GS SLi) , and its cheaper then SLi.
If SLi then will cause u difficult to put 3rd party NB cooler, and consume more power.
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Ya, with the cost involve to change new PSU, change mobo or other thing, better just get 1 high end GC is enough... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 4 2007, 07:32 PM)
Colorful cost more than PALIT ? Then i rather take PALIT lol.
Ofcoz higher single is better (7900GS>7600GS SLi) , and its cheaper then SLi.
If SLi then will cause u difficult to put 3rd party NB cooler, and consume more power.
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So that's the difference? Well I get it notworthy.gif
As for the card, I was looking for Palit at 1st, I asked and the seller said that they don't have Palit but Colorful is also the same. Both price is cheap compared to others. Oh well, just RM20. As long as I have gc and get to play more games brows.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 4 2007, 08:20 PM)
So that's the difference? Well I get it notworthy.gif
As for the card, I was looking for Palit at 1st, I asked and the seller said that they don't have Palit but Colorful is also the same. Both price is cheap compared to others. Oh well, just RM20. As long as I have gc and get to play more games brows.gif
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If wan make SLI, using the same model, same brand is better, otherwise troublesome later... So, i will suggest u go for Colourful instead of other brand... smile.gif
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Alaaaa......... cmne nk measure vcore nie...??? What programs that will help me..?
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No program can measure the voltage of the card. You will have to use DMM(Digital Multimeter) to measure. Different cards will use different PCBs, thus different measure points. State what card you are using.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Feb 5 2007, 12:57 PM)
No program can measure the voltage of the card. You will have to use DMM(Digital Multimeter) to measure. Different cards will use different PCBs, thus different measure points. State what card you are using.
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Same as you.. Galaxy 7300GT 128MB DDR3
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 5 2007, 01:08 PM)
Same as you.. Galaxy 7300GT 128MB DDR3
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Then easy.. find sniper69's siggy. He got galaxy 7300GT pencil MOD guide.
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Any1 using Biostar 7300GT (128mb)? I ask google trying to find vmod for this board but no avail so far.
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Anyone knows why my WinFast PX7600 GS TDH Classic has a "beep" sound? It is really annoying...
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QUOTE(Qmac @ Feb 5 2007, 06:13 PM)
Anyone knows why my WinFast PX7600 GS TDH Classic has a "beep" sound? It is really annoying...
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maybe u not connect the power to ur gc???
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7600GS don't need extra power, even if you want to, there's no 4pin PCI-E power either.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Feb 6 2007, 09:09 AM)
7600GS don't need extra power, even if you want to, there's no 4pin PCI-E power either.
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If you're talking about the AGP version then yes. it does. Not for the PCI-E though.
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QUOTE(Qmac @ Feb 5 2007, 06:13 PM)
Anyone knows why my WinFast PX7600 GS TDH Classic has a "beep" sound? It is really annoying...
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is your card like this

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or this

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actually same, only cooling method made them difference, anyway...are you really sure, the "beep" sound came out from your card? got some sort of buzzer thing to makde that sound? hmm.gif, AFAIK, Galaxy have this feature not LeadTek, pardon me if i'm wrong...normally (Galaxy), when the buzzer sets of, means overheated core...
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does galaxy 7300gt 128mb agp memory clock capped at 840mhz? i can't get past it neither using RivaTuner nor NVTweak..
can i overpast that barrier?
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 6 2007, 04:56 PM)
does galaxy 7300gt 128mb agp memory clock capped at 840mhz? i can't get past it neither using RivaTuner nor NVTweak..
can i overpast that barrier?
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vmod it.

anyway, how does the new driver from nvidia perform on 7300GT DDR3? im still using the old 84.xx driver.
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What vmod? I'm using Leadtek WinFast 7900 GTX
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Need opinions opinions opinions from all bros.

Im using X1600pro 256ddr2 now, scored 4000-+ in 3dmark 05. Im going to upgrade to 7600gt 256ddr3. I read a lot of reviews and view scores from others, gets around 5300~5600 -+ in 3dmark05. Stating it's a 4.5 out of 5 stars card from http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2031

Do you think it's worth it for me to upgrade? i have to top up around RM340. AGP user here.. prices high for agp cards. LoL.. blink.gif
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 05:56 AM)
Need opinions opinions opinions from all bros.

Im using X1600pro 256ddr2 now, scored 4000-+ in 3dmark 05. Im going to upgrade to 7600gt 256ddr3. I read a lot of reviews and view scores from others, gets around 5300~5600 -+ in 3dmark05. Stating it's a 4.5 out of 5 stars card from http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2031

Do you think it's worth it for me to upgrade? i have to top up around RM340. AGP user here.. prices high for agp cards. LoL..  blink.gif
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Sure 7600GT is faster, becoz its running DDR3. But need to top up RM340 is quit alot since PALIT 7600GT DDR3 256Mb PCI-e is only selling for RM410 now.

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 7 2007, 10:11 AM)
Sure 7600GT is faster, becoz its running DDR3. But need to top up RM340 is quit alot since PALIT 7600GT DDR3 256Mb PCI-e is only selling for RM410 now.
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shocking.gif huh...now Palit 7600GT also sell at RM410... rclxub.gif ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 7 2007, 10:11 AM)
Sure 7600GT is faster, becoz its running DDR3. But need to top up RM340 is quit alot since PALIT 7600GT DDR3 256Mb PCI-e is only selling for RM410 now.
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Yeah i know 7600gt ddr3 is faster. Yikes, that's why im interested in it, but is it a worth for an upgrade from x1600 to 7600gt? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:05 PM)
Yeah i know 7600gt ddr3 is faster. Yikes, that's why im interested in it, but is it a worth for an upgrade from x1600 to 7600gt?  hmm.gif
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what's your budget? from what i'm thinking, not worth it...since the performance gain is about what...30%~40%?, you should go for at least 7900GS or X1650 Pro and upper...just a thought ok...

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:24 PM)
what's your budget? from what i'm thinking, not worth it...since the performance gain is about what...30%~40%?, you should go for at least 7900GS or X1650 Pro and upper...just a thought ok...
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Er.. my budget is around topping up RM 300+, considered X1650pro before, i read a lot of reviews about it. It still lose to 7600gt, plus it's almost the same as what im using now. It's like refined version of X1600. Im switching from ati to nvidia is because i feel quite dissapointed for ati. So i wont consider ati products for now, but in the future maybe. laugh.gif

Yeah, it's only a 30%~40% boost, but sometimes we cannot judge by scores, quality is also one thing. right? and i love that temp for 7600gt which is around 42~50 celcius? correct me if im wrong. sweat.gif

7900gs? is it available for agps? No idea here. tongue.gif

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I think its not worth to change to 7600GT. Wont bring significant perf different. Ur card still can play a lot of hi-end game rite? why waste money?
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 7 2007, 12:52 PM)
I think its not worth to change to 7600GT. Wont bring significant perf different. Ur card still can play a lot of hi-end game rite? why waste money?
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Ya kinda. high end games with mid settings. but it still lags little little tiny bit playing cs source with high AF and other settings(rarely), in situations with big maps. And i cant get much from this card for scores in 3dmark05. tried to press a little out from it also cannot. LoL... Still thinking about changing it, coz 7600gt seems like a quite fun card to play with.. haha...
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:44 PM)
Er.. my budget is around topping up RM 300+, considered X1650pro before, i read a lot of reviews about it. It still lose to 7600gt, plus it's almost the same as what im using now. It's like refined version of X1600. Im switching from ati to nvidia is because i feel quite dissapointed for ati. So i wont consider ati products for now, but in the future maybe.  laugh.gif

Yeah, it's only a 30%~40% boost, but sometimes we cannot judge by scores, quality is also one thing. right? and i love that temp for 7600gt which is around 42~50 celcius? correct me if im wrong. sweat.gif

7900gs? is it available for agps? No idea here. tongue.gif
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doh.gif, forgot that you're in AGP tongue.gif, hmm.gif, if only your budget pretty big, X1950 Pro AGP would be nice brows.gif, anyway, in that case you can get 7600GT AGP la, but IMO, ATI's IQ is way better than nVIDIA especially in hi-resolution...the -ve side is, ATI's driver not like nVIDIA's driver...wink.gif
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Guys, need some opinion. I'm seriously considering in upgrading my 7300GT 128mb ddr3 (PCI-E) to either 7600GT, 7900GS or 1950Pro. 7600GT is the cheapest, IIRC, cheapest is about RM 4++? For 7900 GS, the price is about RM 6++ and the 1950pro is also around the RM 600-700 price range depending on model.

Currently im getting around 52++ for 3dmark05 and around 13+++ for my 3dmark03. But since im using a 22 inch acer monitor, i guess the 128mb is somewhat limiting. Need to play @ low reso like 1024 which looks really ugly IMO on a 22 inch monitor.

So what do u guys recommend?

Price reference: (Cheapest price)
Colourful X1950 Pro 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 630
Colourful 7900GS 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 615
Colorful 7600GT 256-UP DDR3 @ PCZone RM 440

Another question, is colourful a lousy brand? Why is it so cheap?
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM)
Guys, need some opinion. I'm seriously considering in upgrading my 7300GT 128mb ddr3 (PCI-E) to either 7600GT, 7900GS or 1950Pro. 7600GT is the cheapest, IIRC, cheapest is about RM 4++? For 7900 GS, the price is about RM 6++ and the 1950pro is also around the RM 600-700 price range depending on model.

Currently im getting around 52++ for 3dmark05 and around 13+++ for my 3dmark03. But since im using a 22 inch acer monitor, i guess the 128mb is somewhat limiting. Need to play @ low reso like 1024 which looks really ugly IMO on a 22 inch monitor.

So what do u guys recommend?

Price reference: (Cheapest price)
Colourful X1950 Pro 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 630
Colourful 7900GS 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 615
Colorful 7600GT 256-UP DDR3 @ PCZone RM 440

Another question, is colourful a lousy brand? Why is it so cheap?
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You might want to add Colorful X1950GT 256MB DDR3 @ PCZone RM 599 thumbup.gif
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=611
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM)
Guys, need some opinion. I'm seriously considering in upgrading my 7300GT 128mb ddr3 (PCI-E) to either 7600GT, 7900GS or 1950Pro. 7600GT is the cheapest, IIRC, cheapest is about RM 4++? For 7900 GS, the price is about RM 6++ and the 1950pro is also around the RM 600-700 price range depending on model.

Currently im getting around 52++ for 3dmark05 and around 13+++ for my 3dmark03. But since im using a 22 inch acer monitor, i guess the 128mb is somewhat limiting. Need to play @ low reso like 1024 which looks really ugly IMO on a 22 inch monitor.

So what do u guys recommend?

Price reference: (Cheapest price)
Colourful X1950 Pro 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 630
Colourful 7900GS 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 615
Colorful 7600GT 256-UP DDR3 @ PCZone RM 440

Another question, is colourful a lousy brand? Why is it so cheap?
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China brand are usually price lower as compare to those bigger reputable brand like asus, gigabyte and ect. Also those model you listed probably will be basic version, which just use the reference standard and clock speed like nvidia reference card. And I myself is using the acer 22 inch now and I would suggest you to get a card with 512mb memory if you want to run all your game at the native resolution, which is 1680x1050.
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM)
Guys, need some opinion. I'm seriously considering in upgrading my 7300GT 128mb ddr3 (PCI-E) to either 7600GT, 7900GS or 1950Pro. 7600GT is the cheapest, IIRC, cheapest is about RM 4++? For 7900 GS, the price is about RM 6++ and the 1950pro is also around the RM 600-700 price range depending on model.

Currently im getting around 52++ for 3dmark05 and around 13+++ for my 3dmark03. But since im using a 22 inch acer monitor, i guess the 128mb is somewhat limiting. Need to play @ low reso like 1024 which looks really ugly IMO on a 22 inch monitor.

So what do u guys recommend?

Price reference: (Cheapest price)
Colourful X1950 Pro 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 630
Colourful 7900GS 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 615
Colorful 7600GT 256-UP DDR3 @ PCZone RM 440

Another question, is colourful a lousy brand? Why is it so cheap?
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the brand is not lousy but it is cheap thumbup.gif I don't know how to compare to others like Leadtek, XFX, Gigabyte or anything. Maybe other is OCable higher and of course, pay a bit more for the brand brows.gif my opinion? 7900GS is great since your screen is 22"
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Feb 7 2007, 03:22 PM)
You might want to add Colorful X1950GT 256MB DDR3 @ PCZone RM 599  thumbup.gif 
http://legionhardware.com/document.php?id=611
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Aiyo.. confusing me summore. racun racun rclxub.gif

Anyway, for 30 bucks cheaper, i'd rather go for the pro version. It needs to be cheaper, maybe around RM 500 - 550 i guess.

Anyway, 7900GS or 1950 Pro?

Just to add: I only play CS:Source atm (FM2007 doesnt count!) LoL


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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Feb 7 2007, 03:27 PM)
China brand are usually price lower as compare to those bigger reputable brand like asus, gigabyte and ect. Also those model you listed probably will be basic version, which just use the reference standard and clock speed like nvidia reference card. And I myself is using the acer 22 inch now and I would suggest you to get a card with 512mb memory if you want to run all your game at the native resolution, which is 1680x1050.
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512mb? waahhh.. okayla, no need to play at native resolution, somewhere higher that 1024 is already acceptable. In CS:Source, in the widescreen reso, there's something lower than 1680, IIRC its 1440 is considered acceptable already. But 1024.. doh.gif

So, I still need 512mb? Anyway, if there's anyone who knows this is reading, what is actually the function of the ram in a graphics card? Vista premium requires a minimum of 128mb. No wonder the flip 3d kinda sluggish when i have more than 2 windows open.

EDIT: after reading this
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Best PCI-E Card For ~$175: Tie

Radeon X1950 PRO
Codename: RV570, 90-nm technology
36 pixel shaders, eight vertex shaders, 12 Texture units, 12 raster operations
256-bit external memory bus (512-bit internal ring bus)
575-MHz core, 690-MHz DDR (1380 MHz effective) memory

The X1950 PRO is similar to the X1900 GT, the main difference being that it is not based on the X1900 XT, but a whole new and less power-hungry core. The card's main competition is the 7900 GS, which the X1950 PRO will beat in most benchmarks at stock speeds. However, the 7900 GS tends to be cheaper, and the X1950 PRO does not overclock well, so they are both good buys depending on what you plan to use them for.

GeForce 7900 GS
codename: G71, 90-nm technology
20 pixel shaders, seven vertex shaders, 20 texture units, 16 raster operator units
256-bit memory bus
450-MHz core, 660-MHz DDR (1320-MHz effective) memory

Essentially the card is an overclocked 7800 GT, sporting a 256-bit memory bus and decent clock speeds, it's a very good performer and a solid card for the money.

While the X1950 PRO is a stronger performer, it's also a bit more expensive. The 7900 GS also has a good overclocking reputation, while the X1950 PRO does not.


from HERE
I think i might opt for a 7900GS as i think im more familiar with the driver (there's only one) and its easier to get support in ubuntu and osx86 (QE and CI). what make/brand would you guys recommend? the more expensive the better, the higher the stock clock the better, or not necessarily?

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 03:41 PM)
Aiyo.. confusing me summore. racun racun  rclxub.gif

Anyway, for 30 bucks cheaper, i'd rather go for the pro version. It needs to be cheaper, maybe around RM 500 - 550 i guess.

Anyway, 7900GS or 1950 Pro?

Just to add: I only play CS:Source atm (FM2007 doesnt count!) LoL
RM500-550 for a 7900GS where to get one??? hmm.gif Unless you are saying 2nd hand one. But if someone manage to get a new one at that price, pls PM me. I'm still looking. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 03:41 PM)
512mb? waahhh.. okayla, no need to play at native resolution, somewhere higher that 1024 is already acceptable. In CS:Source, in the widescreen reso, there's something lower than 1680, IIRC its 1440 is considered acceptable already. But 1024..  doh.gif

So, I still need 512mb? Anyway, if there's anyone who knows this is reading, what is actually the function of the ram in a graphics card? Vista premium requires a minimum of 128mb. No wonder the flip 3d kinda sluggish when i have more than 2 windows open.

EDIT: after reading this
from HERE
I think i might opt for a 7900GS as i think im more familiar with the driver (there's only one) and its easier to get support in ubuntu and osx86 (QE and CI). what make/brand would you guys recommend? the more expensive the better, the higher the stock clock the better, or not necessarily?
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ATI has better graphics than NVIDIA but consumes a lot of power. To me, NVIDIA easy OCable, never experience OC an ATI card.
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 7 2007, 06:10 PM)
ATI has better graphics than NVIDIA but consumes a lot of power. To me, NVIDIA easy OCable, never experience OC an ATI card.
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OMG, If that's the case should i wait for X1950 agp? <<< better than 7600gt kao kao? lol... Racun racun...
How much will a X1950pro ddr3 AGP costs? it seems that i couldn't find it around the pricelists..

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Feb 7 2007, 05:06 PM)
RM500-550 for a 7900GS where to get one???  hmm.gif  Unless you are saying 2nd hand one. But if someone manage to get a new one at that price, pls PM me. I'm still looking.  thumbup.gif
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I was referring to the Radeon X1950 GT which is RM 599 right now. For just RM30 cheaper than the X1950 Pro, I'd rather go for the X1950 Pro.

But since X1950 pro ~ 7900GS, i'd go for the Nvidia card..
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 06:27 PM)
OMG, If that's the case should i wait for X1950 agp? <<< better than 7600gt kao kao? lol... Racun racun...
How much will a X1950pro ddr3 AGP costs? it seems that i couldn't find it around the pricelists..
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X1950PRO 256 RM999, 512 RM1150 @ C-Zone 27/1/07
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 7 2007, 06:53 PM)
X1950PRO 256 RM999, 512 RM1150 @ C-Zone 27/1/07
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Yeah i know about that. I have a fren was a ex-technician of czone. He adviced me not to take HIS cards. A lot of problems... So... HIS is off my options now..

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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 07:28 PM)
Yeah i know about that. I have a fren was a ex-technician of czone. He adviced me not to take HIS cards. A lot of problems... So... HIS is off my options now..
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I see. Well you don't have any other options then. Either upgrade to PCIE or just 7600GT tongue.gif I don't see any other brand than HIS

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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 01:08 PM)
Ya kinda. high end games with mid settings. but it still lags little little tiny bit playing cs source with high AF and other settings(rarely), in situations with big maps. And i cant get much from this card for scores in 3dmark05. tried to press a little out from it also cannot. LoL... Still thinking about changing it, coz 7600gt seems like a quite fun card to play with.. haha...
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Ur spec says u got a 19" LCD, I suppose you run at 1280x1024? Probably not worth upgrade to 7600GT lah, too minor diff unless you o/C the card to max. I used to have one and it not enuf for med-high setting gaming also... (maybe I am fussy, maybe I love eye candy)

QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM)
Guys, need some opinion. I'm seriously considering in upgrading my 7300GT 128mb ddr3 (PCI-E) to either 7600GT, 7900GS or 1950Pro. 7600GT is the cheapest, IIRC, cheapest is about RM 4++? For 7900 GS, the price is about RM 6++ and the 1950pro is also around the RM 600-700 price range depending on model.

Currently im getting around 52++ for 3dmark05 and around 13+++ for my 3dmark03. But since im using a 22 inch acer monitor, i guess the 128mb is somewhat limiting. Need to play @ low reso like 1024 which looks really ugly IMO on a 22 inch monitor.

So what do u guys recommend?

Price reference: (Cheapest price)
Colourful X1950 Pro 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 630
Colourful 7900GS 256 DDR3 @ PCZone RM 615
Colorful 7600GT 256-UP DDR3 @ PCZone RM 440

Another question, is colourful a lousy brand? Why is it so cheap?
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If you don't O/C then you should get the 1950pro, but it may be a bit noisy compare to 7900GS. On the other hand the 7900GS is a good deal if you get lucky and find a very o/c'able card. But dunno about colorful cards, seems not many ppl here buy them also... skeptical perhaps... Although got warranty but how long can you live without a GC? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 7 2007, 09:17 PM)
Ur spec says u got a 19" LCD, I suppose you run at 1280x1024? Probably not worth upgrade to 7600GT lah, too minor diff unless you o/C the card to max. I used to have one and it not enuf for med-high setting gaming also... (maybe I am fussy, maybe I love eye candy)
If you don't O/C then you should get the 1950pro, but it may be a bit noisy compare to 7900GS. On the other hand the 7900GS is a good deal if you get lucky and find a very o/c'able card. But dunno about colorful cards, seems not many ppl here buy them also... skeptical perhaps... Although got warranty but how long can you live without a GC?  shocking.gif
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I'm using Colorful. No problem until now. Most ppl prefer Palit instead of Colorful but the price is still around the figure. I think Winfast is good for OC. I still suggest go for NVIDIA thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 7 2007, 09:41 PM)
I'm using Colorful. No problem until now. Most ppl prefer Palit instead of Colorful but the price is still around the figure. I think Winfast is good for OC. I still suggest go for NVIDIA thumbup.gif
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Galaxy also good for OC, a nice GC brand ! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(MyCJS01 @ Feb 7 2007, 09:55 PM)
Galaxy also good for OC, a nice GC brand !  rclxms.gif
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China brand is more 'innovative' and offer best bang for bucks!!
7600GS got gDDR3. 7900GS got 512MB thumbup.gif
Its cheaper bu still come with Zalman HSF.
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Guys, i think im going for X1950pro.. LoL.. minimum psu need how much? Any 7900 Agp cards releasing or released? Still looking around.
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QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Feb 7 2007, 11:35 PM)
dude, don't get too used to use that site anyway...
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 7 2007, 11:26 PM)
Guys, i think im going for X1950pro.. LoL.. minimum psu need how much? Any 7900 Agp cards releasing or released? Still looking around.
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I don't think any 7900 will be released for AGP, highest maybe 7600 and also for X1950Pro, I think you should go for Ati thread since this is nVidia 7 series thread, not gc thread sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 7 2007, 11:38 PM)
dude, don't get too used to use that site anyway...
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Hey there i just bought a DELL pc and want too upgrade the G card n ram...this is my current specs
specs can be found here:

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/p...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn
* go to tech specs* Mine is the G force 6150LE...512 ram...and the AMD AthlonTM 64 3800+
I plan too add 512 ram n get a G force 7900GS OR get 1 Gb ram n upgrade too a 7600GT.

My friend said that my PSU is not enuf so do i need too get a new 1?and do i have too change the PC cover.....
My budget is about 1k...i normaly play MMORPG's, Strategy,advanture ,FPS games...i dont really mind if the graphics settings are not too the full..and i wana play Oblivion
and i hope the G card wont be Obsolete for at least 3 years...

SO guys help me out plz thks ^^

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Between AGP Galaxy 7300GT 128/128 DDR3 (price RM350) and
Leadtek Winfast A7300GT TDH 256/128 DDR3/DDR2 (not sure) (price RM370)
which one worth to buy?......pls suggest
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Galaxy is more worth buying if you're going for OC.
bought one from a forumer.
fresh from box i got a 9k+ for 3D Mark03 and 3k+ for 3D Mark05. after I've overclocked it abit more, I got 11k+ for 3D Mark03 and 4k+ for 3D Mark05..
I'm gonna OC my cpu after i got myself a descent cooler soon, hopefully i can get a better score..
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 8 2007, 02:33 AM)
Galaxy is more worth buying if you're going for OC.
bought one from a forumer.
fresh from box i got a 9k+ for 3D Mark03 and 3k+ for 3D Mark05. after I've overclocked it abit more, I got 11k+ for 3D Mark03 and 4k+ for 3D Mark05..
I'm gonna OC my cpu after i got myself a descent cooler soon, hopefully i can get a better score..
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what the minimum PSU for ur card?I only have 200W....can support or not?

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QUOTE(MAAG @ Feb 8 2007, 01:31 AM)
Between AGP Galaxy 7300GT 128/128 DDR3 (price RM350) and
Leadtek Winfast A7300GT TDH 256/128 DDR3/DDR2 (not sure) (price RM370)
which one worth to buy?......pls suggest
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Galaxy 7300GT DDR3 AGP can oc to 620/1800,the best AGP 73GT, using it now, so far so good rclxms.gif

200watt power supply ? i dont think it can handle your rig well.. better change to a better PSU
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 7 2007, 11:38 PM)
I don't think any 7900 will be released for AGP, highest maybe 7600 and also for X1950Pro, I think you should go for Ati thread since this is nVidia 7 series thread, not gc thread sweat.gif
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Yeah i know this is a nVidia thread, and im interested in it, However, getting X1600 was my first time in Ati. Have been using nVidia since Geforce2,4,fx.. LoL... i will go to Ati if i wanna compare ati cards. but now im comparing one ati card with bunch of nvidia cards.. So i guess that's why im here.. lol...

And.... to tell you guys. i just sold my X1600... lol.... now my pc is waiting for one new GC~~ crappy Intel Extreme Graphics 2. keep crashing.. vmad.gif

Now im still considering my options, winfast 7800gs? it this good? the core and memory clock is lower than 7600, but using a G71 chip and 24 vertex pipelines(correct me if im wrong). Very confused ah............ rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 8 2007, 05:34 AM)
Yeah i know this is a nVidia thread, and im interested in it, However, getting X1600 was my first time in Ati. Have been using nVidia since Geforce2,4,fx.. LoL... i will go to Ati if i wanna compare ati cards. but now im comparing one ati card with bunch of nvidia cards.. So i guess that's why im here.. lol...

And.... to tell you guys. i just sold my X1600... lol.... now my pc is waiting for one new GC~~ crappy Intel Extreme Graphics 2. keep crashing.. vmad.gif

Now im still considering my options, winfast 7800gs? it this good? the core and memory clock is lower than 7600, but using a G71 chip and 24 vertex pipelines(correct me if im wrong). Very confused ah............  rclxub.gif
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Real tight budget -> 7600GS 256 DDR3
OK budget -> 7600GT 256 DDR3
If you have the money -> 7900GS 256 DDR3

Your option Winfast 7800GS? Here in forum? I don't think shops have it anymore. Out of production but if there's any, maybe a few unsure.gif 7900GS is an overclock version of 7800GT if I'm not mistaken

EDITED: forgot you're AGP version doh.gif go for Palit 7600GS 256 DDR3

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QUOTE(derek87 @ Feb 8 2007, 05:34 AM)
Yeah i know this is a nVidia thread, and im interested in it, However, getting X1600 was my first time in Ati. Have been using nVidia since Geforce2,4,fx.. LoL... i will go to Ati if i wanna compare ati cards. but now im comparing one ati card with bunch of nvidia cards.. So i guess that's why im here.. lol...

And.... to tell you guys. i just sold my X1600... lol.... now my pc is waiting for one new GC~~ crappy Intel Extreme Graphics 2. keep crashing.. vmad.gif

Now im still considering my options, winfast 7800gs? it this good? the core and memory clock is lower than 7600, but using a G71 chip and 24 vertex pipelines(correct me if im wrong). Very confused ah............  rclxub.gif
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eerm can some 1 help me with Post #253 plz thks i dont want too double post tongue.gif

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how much W is ur PSU? if it's 400W then it shud be enuff. less than that, I suggest u to get a new PSU. u don't have to change the pc cover tho.

i think oblivion is playable with 7600gt.
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 8 2007, 12:41 AM)
Hey there i just bought a DELL pc and want too upgrade the G card n ram...this is my current specs
specs can be found here:

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/p...en&s=dhs&~ck=mn
* go to tech specs* Mine is the G force 6150LE...512 ram...and the AMD AthlonTM  64 3800+
I plan too add 512 ram n get a G force 7900GS OR get 1 Gb ram n upgrade too a 7600GT.

My friend said that my PSU is not enuf so do i need too get a new 1?and do i have too change the PC cover.....
My budget is about 1k...i normaly play MMORPG's, Strategy,advanture ,FPS games...i dont really mind if the graphics settings are not too the full..and i wana play Oblivion
and i hope the G card wont be Obsolete for at least 3 years...

SO guys help me out plz thks ^^
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1st the PSU is how many watt?

Oblivion is playable at medium settings using 7600GT thumbup.gif just like I did and to me, satisfy enough. If you're looking for a longer card, 7900GS should be ok but I don't think for 3 years.
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 8 2007, 11:35 AM)
eerm can some 1 help me with Post #253 plz thks i dont want too double post  tongue.gif

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plus you have to state budget...
it for the next three years you dont want to upgrade..
the only solution is 8800 series
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My watt is 305W only =.= so errm if i do get a new PSU i just want a normal one..wich 1 should i get and whats the price roughly


Added on February 8, 2007, 5:05 pm
QUOTE(mcchin @ Feb 8 2007, 05:03 PM)
plus you have to state budget...
it for the next three years you dont want to upgrade..
the only solution is 8800 series
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My budget is 1k so far lol i dont think i can afford the 8 series...i think just the G card already over my budget ahhaa i still need to buy ram and PSU somo...


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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 8 2007, 05:03 PM)
My watt is 305W only =.= so errm if i do get a new PSU i just want a normal one..wich 1 should i get and whats the price roughly


Added on February 8, 2007, 5:05 pm

My budget is 1k so far lol i dont think i can afford the 8 series...i think just the G card already over my budget ahhaa i still need to buy ram and PSU somo...
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I assume your RAM is 1GB right?

Colorful 7900GS RM615
Enermax FMA II 460W RM279
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I assume your RAM is 1GB right?

Colorful 7900GS RM615
Enermax FMA II 460W RM279
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errm my current ram is only 512 cry.gif so i need to upgrade that too..WAHH!! PSU so ex meh.....walau...anyways would it be better too get the giga 7900GS with zalman fanRM770
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 8 2007, 05:29 PM)
errm my current ram is only 512  cry.gif  so i need to upgrade that too..WAHH!! PSU so ex meh.....walau...anyways would it be better too get the giga 7900GS with zalman fanRM770
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I don't know. To me it's the same tongue.gif
your RAM is 533 or 667? RAM 1GB below 300 already
or PSU should go for Silverstone 405W, I think it's enough. There's a LYN bulk for RM200
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 8 2007, 05:34 PM)
I don't know. To me it's the same tongue.gif
your RAM is 533 or 667? RAM 1GB below 300 already
or PSU should go for Silverstone 405W, I think it's enough. There's a LYN bulk for RM200
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My ram is 533....so should i go for another 512 or just get a 1GB....kk the G card ill get the colour 1 lah...cheaper...


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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 8 2007, 05:34 PM)
I don't know. To me it's the same tongue.gif
your RAM is 533 or 667? RAM 1GB below 300 already
or PSU should go for Silverstone 405W, I think it's enough. There's a LYN bulk for RM200
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My ram is 533....so should i go for another 512 or just get a 1GB....kk the G card ill get the colour 1 lah...cheaper...


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if u wan to run on dual channel, get a 512.
if u wan a higher capacity ram, get 1gb.

btw, there are cheaper ok-ok psu pricing rm100++. try checking out LYN pricelist..
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Can someone state the brands and price list of 7900/7950 GT out there? Thanks in advance =)
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Can someone state the brands and price list of 7900/7950 GT  out there? Thanks in advance =)
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www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceguide

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btw, which brand in particular that i should get? and if its 7900gtx
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QUOTE(himynameis @ Feb 8 2007, 07:47 PM)
btw, which brand in particular that i should get? and if its 7900gtx
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it depends on you guys when buying 3D card, you want Galaxy, go ahead, you want to get Asus, sure go ahead, it all depends on you and your budget...
but, IMO, Galaxy, XFX is one of "them" with great overclocking ability, (LeadTek too), while some (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI) which is quite good (more popular brand indeed)...

long story short, Galaxy normally doesn't come with "handsome" bundle like LeadTek did...that's one of the difference between them...icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 8 2007, 11:58 PM)
it depends on you guys when buying 3D card, you want Galaxy, go ahead, you want to get Asus, sure go ahead, it all depends on you and your budget...
but, IMO, Galaxy, XFX is one of "them" with great overclocking ability, (LeadTek too), while some (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI) which is quite good (more popular brand indeed)...

long story short, Galaxy normally doesn't come with "handsome" bundle like LeadTek did...that's one of the difference between them...icon_idea.gif
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Leadtek, XFX, Galaxy, we pay for its overclocking ability
Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, we pay for its brand. I would say these brands are famous and known
Palit, Colorful, we pay with the only money that we have at that time tongue.gif

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Yesterday the seller just received my gc and tested without any problem, so don't know why it have problem in my rig. btw, the seller say even thought the card is ok, but he still change a new one for me rclxm9.gif , thanks to kev_neville notworthy.gif , very nice seller, provide great service thumbup.gif

(help him promote a bit... whistling.gif ) anyone want to buy 7 series gc, can look at his bulk there... rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(vassalle @ Feb 7 2007, 06:47 PM)
I was referring to the Radeon X1950 GT which is RM 599 right now. For just RM30 cheaper than the X1950 Pro, I'd rather go for the X1950 Pro.

But since X1950 pro ~ 7900GS, i'd go for the Nvidia card..
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Buut for USD $179, would you rather go for 8600 Ultra?

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Memory(MHz)
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Memory(MB)
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Memory(buss)
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http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4834

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Feb 9 2007, 12:03 PM)
Buut for USD $179, would you rather go for 8600 Ultra?

Shaders
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Core(MHz)
500

Memory(MHz)
1400

Memory(MB)
<512

Memory(buss)
256bit

http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4834

I'm poisoning myself lor  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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i'd take 8600 Ultra for sure...256bit thumbup.gif...
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the price will surely be expensive for the first few weeks. So, if i really want to get that one, haf to sabar to maybe April or so for the price to stabilise to a lower price.. sad.gif

But yeah, i think i should wait till all the mainstream 8xxx series to come in and the 7 series will be really cheap then.
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8600 Ultra is still worth it I would say nod.gif

wail til all 8 series out, then serbu high-end 7 series like 7950 thumbup.gif
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hey i have a question....can i replace the heatsink and the fan on my msi nx7600gt ? because i suspect theres a problem about overheating on my gc. because pc will cut off the power if your gc is overheated...isnt it?
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QUOTE(AllOfTheDayAndAllOfTheNight @ Feb 9 2007, 11:02 PM)
hey i have a question....can i replace the heatsink and the fan on my msi nx7600gt ? because i suspect theres a problem about overheating on my gc. because pc will cut off the power if your gc is overheated...isnt it?
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Sure can replace it. Zalman is good. But dont forget to apply thermal paste.
BTW wht HSF u using now?? Original HSF should be good enuf alrdy actually.
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QUOTE(AllOfTheDayAndAllOfTheNight @ Feb 9 2007, 11:02 PM)
hey i have a question....can i replace the heatsink and the fan on my msi nx7600gt ? because i suspect theres a problem about overheating on my gc. because pc will cut off the power if your gc is overheated...isnt it?
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you can always check your GC temp at your graphic card properties there,or some software like everest and etc

if didn't overclock,i guess the temperature won't be too high,maybe can try to open your casing side panel to improve the airflow,see any changes or not
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QUOTE(AllOfTheDayAndAllOfTheNight @ Feb 9 2007, 11:02 PM)
hey i have a question....can i replace the heatsink and the fan on my msi nx7600gt ? because i suspect theres a problem about overheating on my gc. because pc will cut off the power if your gc is overheated...isnt it?
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actually, when your system cut off (if that's what you call it), it's something related to your PSU...
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thank you for your feedback. regarding Zalman, where can i get them and what is the price? im using the default heatsink and fan. i thought by changing the heatsink and fan might solve my problem.

sniper69: my pc shuts off only when im using something that requires graphical power such as playing games (oblivion, nfs) or doing graphics (adobe illustrator, photoshop)...and this happen only recently on my 6 month old pc..
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well, LYP got getting zalman vga cooler. or, u can browse for forumers selling their cooler. shawty, etc.. u can find them in the bulk section.
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thanks man....damn gc >_< dont want to buy a new gc just yet. saving some money for the directX10 gc
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 9 2007, 03:41 PM)
8600 Ultra is still worth it I would say nod.gif

wail til all 8 series out, then serbu high-end 7 series like 7950 thumbup.gif
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Considering the fact that the 8series is around the corner, is it still worth to get those high end 7series when they are out?I mean would the mid end 8series beat those high end 7series?And how much does a 7300GT worth now in the market(i mean 2nd hand value)?
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i would like to apply AS5 to my 7900GS..will it void the warranty if i remove the zalman hsf?
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@kalakatu
When u want to claim warranty, just reapply back a look-alike original thermal grease after cleaning the AS5 stuff from your 7900 core.
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@akachester
IMO, a 2nd hand 7300gt would depend on the age..more than a year would be like rm200-250 and less than a year would be rm250-280.
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QUOTE(coolblade @ Feb 10 2007, 10:15 AM)
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When u want to claim warranty, just reapply back a look-alike original thermal grease after cleaning the AS5 stuff from your 7900 core.
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haha..thats a good idea..maybe ill just add it after the warranty period is over..
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Hey guys my friend is selling me a Asus G force 7950 GT SLI 512mb ram for about 850.....should i get it?i have the money for it...and what com specs or wattage does this GC need? cuz i need too change my PSU iz only305 W now =.=....thks in advance
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min power is 400W.
rm850? still under warranty right? if it is, get it. unless u wanna go for geforce 8 series in the future.
if u feel like sticking to this GC for a long period of time, it will be worth it.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 10 2007, 09:43 AM)
Considering the fact that the 8series is around the corner, is it still worth to get those high end 7series when they are out?I mean would the mid end 8series beat those high end 7series?And how much does a 7300GT worth now in the market(i mean 2nd hand value)?
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all 8 series out, go for high-end 7 series due to price. The mid 8 performance is better than high 7, so the price is more expensive. If it's cheaper, you know the answer biggrin.gif
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Thks alexandros_18th...and yeah itz still under warranty...so i most prob will be getting it


Added on February 10, 2007, 5:04 pmBtw if i do buy it and plan too sell it for a profit how much do u think i can get tongue.gif just asking fo fun

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if u lucky to find a "good" buyer, might end up selling at same or even higher price. rm850 quite cheap

price depend on when u wanna sell it. refer to garage sale to view the price

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Oh ok if i do sell it how much should i sell it for? O.o
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as of today until next month, maybe can still go for the same price, rm850, unless LYN got a big price drop so u will have to do the same too.
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 10 2007, 10:25 AM)
@akachester
IMO, a 2nd hand 7300gt would depend on the age..more than a year would be like rm200-250 and less than a year would be rm250-280.
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Great.I guess the price didnt drop that much.I got it for RM350 from the first batch (around 1/2 year now) and i guess its still worth at least RM250..


QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 10 2007, 04:41 PM)
all 8 series out, go for high-end 7 series due to price. The mid 8 performance is better than high 7, so the price is more expensive. If it's cheaper, you know the answer biggrin.gif
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Well, the reason i am asking was, when the 7300GT was launched, it is already better than the more expensive, mid end 6600GT.If the mid end 8series can be better than those high end 7series and cheaper, that would be a great buy..Now i just need to wait for it to be launched..
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i don't think nvidia will launch 8600 and 8300 series soon. who are they competing with? amd ati? they don't even have a actual launch date AFAIK for their X2xxx series.
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Well, i think there were rumours of estimated release date should be around march.I guess we only need to wait and see.Not to mention that they already release the 8800 without any reply from ATI yet until now so i guess there is a possibility..I will hold on to my 7300GT right now..
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what actually does a DX10 card mean? Is it mean that only 8800GTX can be runned with DirectX10? Can other Dx9 cards such as 7900GT run DX10 games?
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what actually does a DX10 card mean? Is it mean that only 8800GTX can be runned with DirectX10? Can other Dx9 cards such as 7900GT run DX10 games?
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8series cards runs DX10..I don't think DX9 card will be able to run DX10 games..
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 11 2007, 03:48 PM)
8series cards runs DX10..I don't think DX9 card will be able to run DX10 games..
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sure can run it, but the effect not so good only..
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sure can run it, but the effect not so good only..
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it can? I thought it can't..

DX10 can run DX9..DX9 can't run DX10
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well isnt the future DX10 games will come up with legacy mode, which will render the game in DX9 ? If not, then even 7900 GTX would become trashed, but at the moment, I dont see that DX10 games would become mainstream for at least 2 years?
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guys
my gc temperature idel is 58. no oc. is it normal...???
by the way im using 7600gt

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guys
my gc temperature idel is 58. no oc. is it normal...???
by the way im using 7600gt
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yup it is normal.. blush.gif
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really? isn't it too hot? mine only 49C even after overclocked..
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My 7600GS runs at 47C after overclocking.

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I think it is normal. It depends on how much air flow your casing and room temperature smile.gif

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QUOTE(neil85 @ Feb 11 2007, 04:09 PM)
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my gc temperature idel is 58. no oc. is it normal...???
by the way im using 7600gt
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not so healthy but aint hazardous . Probably the HSF or the casing isnt good enough
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Feb 11 2007, 05:10 PM)
not so healthy but aint hazardous . Probably the HSF or the casing isnt good enough
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ya, 58C sound not very good, but it is totally very normal.
not all the GC have the same temperature even the same model, so no need to worry bout it.. cool2.gif
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guys...
just bought a Gigabyte 7300GT today..
heard that gigabyte's gc have a better performance than other...
is it true?especially from the core...
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 12 2007, 12:22 AM)
guys...
just bought a Gigabyte 7300GT today..
heard that gigabyte's gc have a better performance than other...
is it true?especially from the core...
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i doubt about that.
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 11 2007, 11:22 PM)
guys...
just bought a Gigabyte 7300GT today..
heard that gigabyte's gc have a better performance than other...
is it true?especially from the core...
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I thought all brand 7300GT using the same core which is G73. What the difference from the core??

Are you sure about it? Any proof ?? smile.gif


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the 3DMark Score is higher 15.1% than geforce 7300GT standard..
thats wat written outside the box..
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 11 2007, 11:53 PM)
the 3DMark Score is higher 15.1% than geforce 7300GT standard..
thats wat written outside the box..
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it's written 3DMark score is higher 15.1% from other? Test it already?
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i dunno how to test lo..
but nvmla..just use it to play syok syok
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 12 2007, 12:10 AM)
i dunno how to test lo..
but nvmla..just use it to play syok syok
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I mean run 3DMark and share your score with us. Let's see if it's true 15.1% better than others
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i dunno how a....
wat i have to do?
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laugh.gif, your Gigabyte is way much slower than my Galaxy doh.gif, anyway, no offense, but the bottleneck is your memory, yours gDDR2 while mine and as well as other (who claimed to be the faster 7300GT) uses gDDR3...AFAIK, highest gDDR2 clocked at 950MHz, while gDDR3 can hit 1000MHz (2000MHz effective)..., and for the core, all 7300GT series use same core, G73, no matter it's gDDR2 or gDDR3 version, even 7600GT also use G73 (fully enabled though)...
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Yeah its marketing. Faster than other 7300GT (DDR1) is true. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 12 2007, 12:48 AM)
i dunno how a....
wat i have to do?
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you can download/install 3DMark03/3DMark05/3DMark06; available at Guru3D.com wink.gif thumbup.gif, once downloaded, install and run the benchmark...you should get the score and if possible post the screenie here, or you can head over to Overclocker's United>3DMark database...you can get "rough" score there...tongue.gif
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okey...
haha..then i know wat u all trying to say la...
but i cant get a DDR3 here...
anyway...

i m clear now....for wat is written outside the box..haha
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 12 2007, 12:55 AM)
okey...
haha..then i know wat u all trying to say la...
but i cant get a DDR3 here...
anyway...

i m clear now....for wat is written outside the box..haha
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I thought you really run the test but those stuff you said was written at the box sweat.gif

Anyway, my bro is using the same card and his score is 8k something while many forumers here can get even up to 13k
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 12 2007, 08:15 AM)
I thought you really run the test but those stuff you said was written at the box sweat.gif

Anyway, my bro is using the same card and his score is 8k something while many forumers here can get even up to 13k
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more over, some could get 14000+
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 12 2007, 08:15 AM)
I thought you really run the test but those stuff you said was written at the box sweat.gif

Anyway, my bro is using the same card and his score is 8k something while many forumers here can get even up to 13k
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IIRC, gigabyte 7300GT is using DDR2, so the core/mem is lower than other brands like Galaxy and Asus, no doubt if the score jus around 8k. smile.gif

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Bros,

My 7900GS refuses to default the display to my TV (s-video is the only connection to the GC). So when I boot my PC and windows loads, the TV display goes blank.

Its just a normal 29" CRT TV. Also the card won't detect the TV at all. Driver is 91.47.

I used 84.21 and it can detect, but display is black n white only.

Anyone using TV output with newer 9X.XX drivers?
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 12 2007, 03:42 PM)
Bros,

My 7900GS refuses to default the display to my TV (s-video is the only connection to the GC). So when I boot my PC and windows loads, the TV display goes blank.

Its just a normal 29" CRT TV. Also the card won't detect the TV at all. Driver is 91.47.

I used 84.21 and it can detect, but display is black n white only.

Anyone using TV output with newer 9X.XX drivers?
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im using TV as a display adapter now (panasonic 29inch flatscreen)... 96.89 punyer driver. no prob at all.. smile.gif

maybe u need to configure a bit.. at the control panel..

why not u boot with both monitor n tv.. then u can configure at monitor to display ur windows at ut TV as a default display device.

last time i use 8x.xx's driver.. my TV goes black n white, but after change TV format (at nvidia control panel) as NTFS/PAL-B.. all become okey... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 12 2007, 03:55 PM)
im using TV as a display adapter now (panasonic 29inch flatscreen)... 96.89 punyer driver. no prob at all.. smile.gif
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Hmm ok I will try with 96.89... thnx... cos if can then I can get rid of my Ati X1300Pro oredi and get myself a DX10 card for my HTPC

QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 12 2007, 03:55 PM)
why not u boot with both monitor n tv.. then u can configure at monitor to display ur windows at ut TV as a default display device.
I try oredi, it refuse to detect TV, only detect my LCD... thats why I also blur


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QUOTE(vey99 @ Feb 12 2007, 03:59 PM)
I try oredi, it refuse to detect TV, only detect my LCD... thats why I also blur
and bro, when I see ur nick anywhere straightaway ur darn Avatar come into mind aargh!  icon_idea.gif
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thats weird.. maybe got prob on ur s-video cable not..?

ape2 pun, try update driver dulu.. smile.gif

huiks!! HHehehe.. hope my avatar will not follow u to ur dream..! Muehehee! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 12 2007, 04:04 PM)
thats weird.. maybe got prob on ur s-video cable not..?

ape2 pun, try update driver dulu.. smile.gif

huiks!! HHehehe.. hope my avatar will not follow u to ur dream..! Muehehee! laugh.gif
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S-video cable is fine, cos it works with my Ati card.

I fear the worst ... takkan my 7900GS... cry.gif


Anyway thanks bro...
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Erm, hellow.. im using 2 x 7300GT on My Ultra-D mobo..

As you all knows, this board just got one spacing slot between PCI-E 16X slots.. So my first VGA stand close to my secondary VGA..

Fist VGA at full LOAD is 89'c while the socondary VGA just 72'c

Any idea how to lowering my first VGA's temp..??

Already try put Delta fan 6000rpm, not work much for it.. just drom to 85'c something..
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use arctic silver 5 ?
it may help biggrin.gif

or just install a casing fan on ur side panel, point it towards the VGA card. all these common methods are really useful biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 12 2007, 04:43 PM)
Erm, hellow.. im using 2 x 7300GT on My Ultra-D mobo..

As you all knows, this board just got one spacing slot between PCI-E 16X slots.. So my first VGA stand close to my secondary VGA..

Fist VGA at full LOAD is 89'c while the socondary VGA just 72'c

Any idea how to lowering my first VGA's temp..??

Already try put Delta fan 6000rpm, not work much for it.. just drom to 85'c something..
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85°C on load? on 7 series? now that's way too hot. did you did something to your card? vMOD on vGPU? either you install after market cooler or open your side panel and have a table fan direct blow to your cards...it may help
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 12 2007, 07:42 PM)
85°C on load? on 7 series? now that's way too hot. did you did something to your card? vMOD on vGPU? either you install after market cooler or open your side panel and have a table fan direct blow to your cards...it may help
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I think our bro's card is modded cos its frickin high 3dmark scores...
Sometimes really difficult case cos the card is too close to the next one, put fan at sidepanel is probably the cheapest way. Or go watercooling on those cards...
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Errm lets say my motherboard doesnt support SLI can i just use a G force 7950 GT SLI as a normal GC n not SLI it?plz help
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 12 2007, 07:47 PM)
Errm lets say my motherboard doesnt support SLI can i just use a G force 7950 GT SLI as a normal GC n not SLI it?plz help
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I am sure you can, the SLI means it *able* to SLI, cos SLI means running 2 cards together...
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TYTYTYYTYTYYTYTYTYTYYTYTYYTYT SO all i need is a motherboard that is 16X yeah? n a 400W PSU?
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you need a mobo with pci-express slot

and higher wattage or more amps(>20) on 12v rail would be better...

but if wanna go with 400w
make sure it not chaplang 1

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how i know wat's the latest driver i use leh??? can help??? new nvidia user... or total noob here...
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 12 2007, 07:47 PM)
Errm lets say my motherboard doesnt support SLI can i just use a G force 7950 GT SLI as a normal GC n not SLI it?plz help
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it's normal GC, it's non-SLI or SLI-ed tongue.gif, anyway, you can either put both identical card to enable SLI, or you plug both to make it 2 display (not SLI) or you can put single card (non-SLI)...

QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 12 2007, 08:08 PM)
TYTYTYYTYTYYTYTYTYTYYTYTYYTYT SO all i need is a motherboard that is 16X yeah? n a 400W PSU?
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AFAIK, most of PCI-E mobo comes with PCi-E 16x, if SLI, yes, 8x for both and if labeled 32x, means SLI at 16x each...
400W would be enough, but you should check your +12v current, is it in good range? to be safe, get at least 20A or upper, the more the better...if possible get a PSU which have it's own PCI-E power connector...
don't forget, don't use capalang PSU

QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Feb 12 2007, 08:24 PM)
how i know wat's the latest driver i use leh??? can help??? new nvidia user... or total noob here...
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nVIDIA ForceWare 93.71 would be good, or you want to try beta? head over to BETA section at nVIDIA tongue.gif

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if u installed driver direct from ur cd that provided when u bought that card..it should be outdated one...just find in nvidia website for the lastest driver..


Added on February 12, 2007, 8:51 pmif u installed driver direct from ur cd that provided when u bought that card..it should be outdated one...just find in nvidia website for the lastest driver..

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Thks sniper69...can see if my specs can support the GF 7950GT SLI 512mb my specs ar located here cuz well i bought a dell com

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/p...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs
Go too technical specs too see the full specs..my ram is 512 going to upgrade to 1gig

if i do get a new PSU do i have too change the case? and wic PSU is good?budget about 150-200 for PSU plz recomend thks
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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Feb 12 2007, 10:37 PM)
Thks sniper69...can see if my specs can support the GF 7950GT SLI 512mb my specs ar located here cuz well i bought a dell com

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/p...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs
Go too technical specs too see the full specs..my ram is 512 going to upgrade to 1gig

if i do get a new PSU do i have too change the case? and wic PSU is good?budget about 150-200 for PSU plz recomend thks
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/376014 -- > you can head over there, IMO, you need to get 450W or to be safe, get 500W with >20A on +12v Rail, avoid CM/iCute/ unless your budget won't let you...FYI, Silverstone do have RM200 price...
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http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/co...ark067900GS.jpg

My new VGA without OC score. blush.gif
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QUOTE(cool_hesem @ Feb 13 2007, 09:26 AM)
it's 3DMark06 right? nice score rclxms.gif
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yes... thanks for that. Anyway, the lastest driver for 7 series is ForceWare 91.47 ar?

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 12 2007, 07:42 PM)
85°C on load? on 7 series? now that's way too hot. did you did something to your card? vMOD on vGPU? either you install after market cooler or open your side panel and have a table fan direct blow to your cards...it may help
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Ya, i did something to my VGA. i made vMOD on vGPU. And it run 750Mhz everyday.. Erm.. will try looking Artic cooler maybe.. Hmmmhmmm..

2nd hand brape eh..??

Erm, my PC got no case.. no side panel to open.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Feb 13 2007, 11:12 AM)
Ya, i did something to my VGA. i made vMOD on vGPU. And it run 750Mhz everyday.. Erm.. will try looking Artic cooler maybe.. Hmmmhmmm..

2nd hand brape eh..??

Erm, my PC got no case.. no side panel to open.. nod.gif
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85°C running daily, is unhealthy i must say...if you still wanna run >700MHz, then suggesting to get after market cooler, Zalman/Arctic Cooling will do the job
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QUOTE(cool_hesem @ Feb 13 2007, 10:49 AM)
yes... thanks for that. Anyway, the lastest driver for 7 series is ForceWare 91.47 ar?
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93.71 actually cool2.gif

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 13 2007, 04:40 PM)
93.71 actually cool2.gif
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I' m using 93.81 rite now, i think this is a beta version, not the official drive, rite? blush.gif
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 13 2007, 05:25 PM)
I' m using 93.81 rite now, i think this is a beta version, not the official drive, rite? blush.gif
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93.71 used to be beta,

so just waiting for 93.81 to be official

plus, in recent years
software producer seems to start marketing half baked stuff
and try to rectified later
making the user lab rats to check the problem for them
instead od QC before sales...

just a thought though....
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 13 2007, 12:13 PM)
85°C running daily, is unhealthy i must say...if you still wanna run >700MHz, then suggesting to get after market cooler, Zalman/Arctic Cooling will do the job
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my Galaxy is the Zalman pnyer fan version...Hmmmm nnti try tgk kt garage sales kalo ade.. TQ2 for suggestion..

ur Galaxy at 100'c over, is that everyday usage..?? more unhealthy thanmine Hheehe laugh.gif
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last night try higher vmod on my card. 1.45v. the temp struck 92c at full load even though the the core speed still around 675mhz. still far from my targeted 700mhz. does stryin VF1 good compare to zalman VF900CU? the number seem bigger laugh.gif
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Wao now PALIT's 7600GT < RM400 alrdy.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 14 2007, 09:43 AM)
Wao now PALIT's 7600GT < RM400 alrdy.
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and everybody seems to be upgrading to 7900GS rclxms.gif
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my friend's 7300gt 256mb pcie temp hits 56C rather that my 7300gt 128mb agp at 50C. how come? his even got zalman, mine only galaxy fan..how come?
even his 3D Mark scores are lower than mine..
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 13 2007, 05:25 PM)
I' m using 93.81 rite now, i think this is a beta version, not the official drive, rite? blush.gif
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nope s i will wait 4 official copy cool2.gif
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 14 2007, 10:42 AM)
my friend's 7300gt 256mb pcie temp hits 56C rather that my 7300gt 128mb agp at 50C. how come? his even got zalman, mine only galaxy fan..how come?
even his 3D Mark scores are lower than mine..
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Mayb AGP and PCI-E make different... blush.gif

QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 14 2007, 10:58 AM)
nope s i will wait 4 official copy cool2.gif
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I dun mind bout it actually, as long as the drive stable for the card then can do it. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 14 2007, 10:22 AM)
and everybody seems to be upgrading to 7900GS rclxms.gif
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Hehe cos now its the most affordable 256bit card, I love my 7900GS also (now eyeing 8800GTS 320MB)


QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 14 2007, 10:42 AM)
my friend's 7300gt 256mb pcie temp hits 56C rather that my 7300gt 128mb agp at 50C. how come? his even got zalman, mine only galaxy fan..how come?
even his 3D Mark scores are lower than mine..
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Crowded casing, insufficient airflow usually contributes. You can really see the diff when you cable manage and ensure good airflow in the casing.
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im using gigabyte 7300GT pci-e 256mb 128bit...
temperature is 65C... is it ok?any idea?
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 14 2007, 09:43 AM)
Wao now PALIT's 7600GT < RM400 alrdy.
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what the hell...why suddently drop price like this...if I know, I will wait for a month before buy... cry.gif
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 14 2007, 03:26 PM)
im using gigabyte 7300GT pci-e 256mb 128bit...
temperature is 65C... is it ok?any idea?
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you're on gDDR2 eh? silent aka passive cooling right? well, it's recomended for you get a case fan that direct blow to your VGA..
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 14 2007, 03:28 PM)
you're on gDDR2 eh? silent aka passive cooling right? well, it's recomended for you get a case fan that direct blow to your VGA..
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yap...but if i leave it like this is it ok?
coz it doesn't create any prob for me
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QUOTE(francischuahcw @ Feb 14 2007, 03:31 PM)
yap...but if i leave it like this is it ok?
coz it doesn't create any prob for me
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even it didn't bring any problems to u, but always on a high temperature, it will decrease the GC life span....
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true.. true.. msi 7300gt 256mbDDR2 user here.. i install a small heatsink fan (buy from 2nd shop in lwyt - rm3).. b4 this temp around 64-67 now around 43-49.. oc just a little bit.. core 450, mem 420..

this gc heatsink didnt touch the memoryram.. poor cooling for memory.. oc over 425, artifact appear aleady..
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 14 2007, 09:43 AM)
Wao now PALIT's 7600GT < RM400 alrdy.
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got that cheap meh? can specify the source?

even colorful 7600GS DDR3 also need >rm350
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Feb 15 2007, 12:11 AM)
got that cheap meh? can specify the source?

even colorful 7600GS DDR3 also need >rm350
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Just went to LYP on Tuesday, Palit 7600GT selling at RM410.... I bought at RM430 2 weeks before... sweat.gif
After CNY, dunno will <RM400 or not... blush.gif
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After 8600 mid-range card release.. the price for 7 series card sure drop almost 10-30%.
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hi guyz..referring to my siggy..i only managed to get these;
3D Mark 03 - 20441
3D Mark 05 - 9510

are those results shown normal or low?

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 15 2007, 02:37 AM)
hi guyz..referring to my siggy..i only managed to get these;
3D Mark 03 - 20441
3D Mark 05 - 9510

are those results shown normal or low?
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Mine Palit 79GS cannot score as high as urs sad.gif

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Hi all, I received back my 7600GS from the seller, after install back to my rig...still got problem to watch real media files, so I shut down my rig and re-install back again...after test, still got problem... doh.gif out of despair, I open the side panel and push push the gc to ensure it get in to the slot perfectly...then I continue to watch real media files...walla...now no problem anymore while watching real media files...I am so happy and exited... rclxm9.gif

After finish watch real media video, I decide to run the Mother Nature test in 3D Mark 03 to see whether it still got problem...after test, this time got no problem anymore, it can run the test perfectly... thumbup.gif

This morning, before come to work, I run the 3D Mark 03...and I get a score of 9800++... dunno this score is good or not but at least this time all running smoother than before... rclxms.gif laugh.gif

So, actually my 7600GS got no problem, it is the contact between gc and the PCI-e slot...what the heck...causing me so many trouble... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 15 2007, 08:21 AM)
Hi all, I received back my 7600GS from the seller, after install back to my rig...still got problem to watch real media files, so I shut down my rig and re-install back again...after test, still got problem... doh.gif  out of despair, I open the side panel and push push the gc to ensure it get in to the slot perfectly...then I continue to watch real media files...walla...now no problem anymore while watching real media files...I am so happy and exited... rclxm9.gif

After finish watch real media video, I decide to run the Mother Nature test in 3D Mark 03 to see whether it still got problem...after test, this time got no problem anymore, it can run the test perfectly... thumbup.gif

This morning, before come to work, I run the 3D Mark 03...and I get a score of 9800++... dunno this score is good or not but at least this time all running smoother than before... rclxms.gif  laugh.gif

So, actually my 7600GS got no problem, it is the contact between gc and the PCI-e slot...what the heck...causing me so many trouble... shakehead.gif

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great to hear u that ur GC is ok!
btw, mayb u can try to scan for artifacts for ur GC, around 20-30mins (should b enuff i think), to make sure u card is free of errors! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 15 2007, 08:21 AM)
So, actually my 7600GS got no problem, it is the contact between gc and the PCI-e slot...what the heck...causing me so many trouble... shakehead.gif

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eh.. u dint plug in the PCi-e nicely ?? Careful bro, thts danger and can kill ur card...

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Feb 15 2007, 09:24 AM)
great to hear u that ur GC is ok!
btw, mayb u can try to scan for artifacts for ur GC, around 20-30mins (should b enuff i think), to make sure u card is free of errors! laugh.gif
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Yeah, I will do it tonite...hopefully is no error... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 15 2007, 09:31 AM)
eh.. u dint plug in the PCi-e nicely ?? Careful bro, thts danger and can kill ur card...
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I did plug it correctly, just it have little bit lifted, maybe only 0.01mm tongue.gif I not sure... before I change to CM C532, when I plug in my PCI-e, the screw hole area is far away from my gc bracket, I need to push the casing a bit to make the hole near to the gc so that I can screw it... sweat.gif so maybe from that, it will lift a bit...then now after I change to CM C532, it seem still have some gap between screw hole of gc and casing...but luckily C532 is toolless in PCI bracket there, so I can push the gc after plug in to make sure it is fully pluged in... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anyone here using 7900GS SLI? How bout the performance? how much % increase?

I just updated the driver from 91.47 to 93.47 but the score & performance for 3d Mark r drop. how come like that one ar? sad.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Feb 15 2007, 04:02 AM)
I think it is normal. smile.gif
Mine Palit 79GS cannot score as high as urs  sad.gif

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 15 2007, 09:50 AM)
I did plug it correctly, just it have little bit lifted, maybe only 0.01mm  tongue.gif  I not sure... before I change to CM C532, when I plug in my PCI-e, the screw hole area is far away from my gc bracket, I need to push the casing a bit to make the hole near to the gc so that I can screw it... sweat.gif so maybe from that, it will lift a bit...then now after I change to CM C532, it seem still have some gap between screw hole of gc and casing...but luckily C532 is toolless in PCI bracket there, so I can push the gc after plug in to make sure it is fully pluged in... icon_rolleyes.gif
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thats what i never like about plugging in graphics card myself doh.gif byk kali kena no display problem mad.gif its better 2 let the shop plug in 4 me cool.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 15 2007, 12:36 PM)
thats what i never like about plugging in graphics card myself doh.gif byk kali kena no display problem mad.gif its better 2 let the shop plug in 4 me cool.gif
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haha...better plug in yourself, can learn from there mar... brows.gif who knows if the shop done something to your gc... doh.gif
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wargh.. so tempting la.. 7600gt only rm410? maybe take 2 to sli.. how much power? depend on my sig, can or not?
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QUOTE(NOX @ Feb 15 2007, 10:38 PM)
wargh.. so tempting la.. 7600gt only rm410? maybe take 2 to sli.. how much power? depend on my sig, can or not?
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One 7900GS can pawn 7600GT SLi alrdy. Why waste money.
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ya ka? me dunno la.. so long never read any posting regard gc.. now dunno what card to buy.. last time got money but buy 36gb raptor.. but nvr regret la.. very optimum performance.. so how much for the 7900gs? give some info plz..

oh ya during cny, how long shop close? sorry if i'm making a stupid q here..
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QUOTE(NOX @ Feb 15 2007, 10:52 PM)
ya ka? me dunno la.. so long never read any posting regard gc.. now dunno what card to buy.. last time got money but buy 36gb raptor.. but nvr regret la.. very optimum performance.. so how much for the 7900gs? give some info plz..

oh ya during cny, how long shop close? sorry if i'm making a stupid q here..
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double post.. stupid streemyx(hotspot).. no lar.. i asking about price for new one.. not garage sale one.. which brand is good?

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QUOTE(NOX @ Feb 16 2007, 12:24 AM)
ya ka? me dunno la.. so long never read any posting regard gc.. now dunno what card to buy.. last time got money but buy 36gb raptor.. but nvr regret la.. very optimum performance.. so how much for the 7900gs? give some info plz..

oh ya during cny, how long shop close? sorry if i'm making a stupid q here..
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normally LYP shops will close for 2 days biggrin.gif
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oic.. so when start? on cny or day before? my fren are going to kl to buy something from lowyat.. no point if he go there, all shop close.. so i'm asking..
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get galaxy 7900gs .. like what im gonna get.. hehe ..
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bad news..just went to lyp. tomorrow majority shops will be closed until 22/02
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Feb 14 2007, 09:43 AM)
Wao now PALIT's 7600GT < RM400 alrdy.
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Yes, i noticed that too..Czone is having a promotion where the 7600GT is at Rm399 and 7900GS at RM600..Very affordable...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 17 2007, 12:08 AM)
Yes, i noticed that too..Czone is having a promotion where the 7600GT is at Rm399 and 7900GS at RM600..Very affordable...
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QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Feb 16 2007, 11:11 PM)
IMO in terms of oc capability.. the best brand should go to Galaxy and Leadtek wink.gif
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Well, in some part, Palit also seems quite capable in term of OC.Maybe not on par with those Galaxy ones..Anyway, considering the price, its definitely a nice one..Time to consider changing my trusted 73GT.
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wa.. 7900gs only rm600.. very affordable la.. cny promotion only meh?

oh ya.. this one pull how much power? afraid if buy not enough power.. 480W only.. using 3 HDD + amd64 proc..
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QUOTE(NOX @ Feb 17 2007, 11:55 AM)
wa.. 7900gs only rm600.. very affordable la.. cny promotion only meh?

oh ya.. this one pull how much power? afraid if buy not enough power.. 480W only.. using 3 HDD + amd64 proc..
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Gonna off-topic for awhile..
wish all chinese forumers here a good, prosperous CNY..
save ur angpow to get dx10 cards ok wink.gif
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QUOTE(NOX @ Feb 17 2007, 11:55 AM)
wa.. 7900gs only rm600.. very affordable la.. cny promotion only meh?

oh ya.. this one pull how much power? afraid if buy not enough power.. 480W only.. using 3 HDD + amd64 proc..
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I think 7900GS price is still dropping..
480W okay la, dont worry. If u scared then dont o'c the proc, just o'c the gfx. brows.gif
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between galaxy 7300gt(oc) 256mb ddr3 zalman and palit 7600gt, which one is better considering that their price is almost the same?
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In my opinion, I will go for 7600GT because of its 12 pipeline.
For 7300GT , it only got 8 pipeline smile.gif


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but if u oc 7300gt kaw kaw, maybe can get pass 7600gs. maybe la..correct me if im wrong.
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 18 2007, 07:22 AM)
but if u oc 7300gt kaw kaw, maybe can get pass 7600gs. maybe la..correct me if im wrong.
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Yes, maybe. But why overclock when you can buy a faster card in the first place? And you compare with 7600GS, he say between 7300GT and 7600GT, the 7600GT sure is far faster than 7300GT
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Feb 18 2007, 09:09 AM)
Yes, maybe. But why overclock when you can buy a faster card in the first place? And you compare with 7600GS, he say between 7300GT and 7600GT,  the 7600GT sure is far faster than 7300GT
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true but since palit's 7600gt is so cheap, there must be some catch right.
i'm wondering whether the catch is on performance or anywhere else.
i'm comparing those 2 specific model since their price is almost the same, and i've seen review where that galaxy's model can almost catch up to 7600gs. so if palit's 7600gt catch is indeed on performance, is the performance difference between those 2 model big?
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for me, i looked at the warranty. galaxy provides 2years warranty, while palit only 1year.
plus galaxy is kinda more stable, with nice fan, etc..where's the fun if u don't oc ur rig, right?

that's y i go for galaxy 7300gt rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 18 2007, 11:19 AM)
for me, i looked at the warranty. galaxy provides 2years warranty, while palit only 1year.
plus galaxy is kinda more stable, with nice fan, etc..where's the fun if u don't oc ur rig, right?

that's y i go for galaxy 7300gt rolleyes.gif
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Whatever. If you asked me I don't care about the warranty. I will take good care of the card, clean it every week, and done some temperature testing to see if its fine

Palit is a good overclocking brand card, only the stock HSF is not good. It does overclock as well as Galaxy because they too design their own PCB for overclocking purpose
Look here:
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display...oltmodding.html

Its up to you to buy which one, I rather have a faster card in the first place rather then buy a lower card and overclock to match the faster card that you want to buy
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Feb 18 2007, 11:51 AM)
Whatever. If you asked me I don't care about the warranty. I will take good care of the card, clean it every week, and done some temperature testing to see if its fine

Palit is a good overclocking brand card, only the stock HSF is not good. It does overclock as well as Galaxy because they too design their own PCB for overclocking purpose
Look here:
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display...oltmodding.html

Its up to you to buy which one, I rather have a faster card in the first place rather then buy a lower card and overclock to match the faster card that you want to buy
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yupz..i second that..but of course if u have a budget lar..
ok..let say u can overclock ur 7300gt kaw2 and will be able to pass 7600gt..
but then,if u grab 7600gt,maybe u can also oc it kaw2 and pass 7900gs..

so which performs better? my opinion is; go for 7600 series.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Feb 18 2007, 09:09 AM)
Yes, maybe. But why overclock when you can buy a faster card in the first place? And you compare with 7600GS, he say between 7300GT and 7600GT,  the 7600GT sure is far faster than 7300GT
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Well, this statement really depends.I do agree to a certain point that if we can afford, why get a lower version.But when you think about it, why waste that extra money if we could OC that particular lower version GC to match those mid end ones?So, it really depends on whether you wanted to spend that extra money or not...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 18 2007, 04:31 PM)
Well, this statement really depends.I do agree to a certain point that if we can afford, why get a lower version.But when you think about it, why waste that extra money if we could OC that particular lower version GC to match those mid end ones?So, it really depends on whether you wanted to spend that extra money or not...
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I would suggest go for Palit 7600GT .. most of them who already bought the card satisfy with the performance and also the $$ investment on the card

buying 7300GT and need to oc kaw kaw may reach til 7600GS performance or anything but if with that price you can get 7600GT, why not on 7600GT instead? then oc kaw kaw sure will get even better performance right? after all to me, buying 7300GT right now kinda not worth it .. at least 7600
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well, since now its CNY, almost all of u got extra cash d (except if u r already married wink.gif ) might be better to get better performance card.
for someone on tight budget like me can only afford 7300gt but im still thankful for it. at least i can still play latest games..
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 18 2007, 09:02 PM)
well, since now its CNY, almost all of u got extra cash d (except if u r already married wink.gif ) might be better to get better performance card.
for someone on tight budget like me can only afford 7300gt but im still thankful for it. at least i can still play latest games..
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no worries dude..7300gt is a really good card already.. smile.gif
unless u seriously wanna play with AA and AF plus using a big lcd monitor and wanna play with full resolution, better grab a better card lor..

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 18 2007, 09:10 PM)
no worries dude..7300gt is a really good card already.. smile.gif
unless u seriously wanna play with AA and AF plus using a big lcd monitor and wanna play with full resolution, better grab a better card lor..
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True. 7300GT already good and you can play almost all games tongue.gif

But for me, Galaxy 7300GT and Palit 7600GT price differences about RM20, so clearly I'll go for 7600GT instead. Almost a month since I bought new gc, very miskin liao sweat.gif
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thanks guys for the opinions smile.gif
read the link provided by Najmods, seems like palit only skimped on quality but the performance should be ok
good enough, as i plan to use this gc for around 1year only before changing to mid-end dx10 offering at that time
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 18 2007, 09:33 PM)
True. 7300GT already good and you can play almost all games tongue.gif

But for me, Galaxy 7300GT and Palit 7600GT price differences about RM20, so clearly I'll go for 7600GT instead. Almost a month since I bought new gc, very miskin liao sweat.gif
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well..now im more pokai d..
someone broke into my hostel room and steal my ram. luckily i took back home with me my hdd and dvd-rw.
and that burglar is stupid enuff coz he didnt steal my 7300gt. same with my roommate 7300gt. but all other thing like hdd,ram, dvd-rw all gone..

gonna spend some money on ram now..
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
well u can compensate yr money by eating maggi mee 4 3 mths laugh.gif laugh.gif s 4 me i willing 2 starve 2 death once i upgrade my whole rig with 640mb 8800gts flex.gif  flex.gif
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walao willing to starve to death just for that card arr? blink.gif how big is your screen? you play a lot of games huh brows.gif

QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 19 2007, 02:03 PM)
well..now im more pokai d..
someone broke into my hostel room and steal my ram. luckily i took back home with me my hdd and dvd-rw.
and that burglar is stupid enuff coz he didnt steal my 7300gt. same with my roommate 7300gt. but all other thing like hdd,ram, dvd-rw all gone..

gonna spend some money on ram now..
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whoa you better find out who did it vmad.gif just make some survey who just recently upgraded his RAM, suspicious enough then bang!! you let your PC case open? some cases are like that ..
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 19 2007, 03:03 PM)
well..now im more pokai d..
someone broke into my hostel room and steal my ram. luckily i took back home with me my hdd and dvd-rw.
and that burglar is stupid enuff coz he didnt steal my 7300gt. same with my roommate 7300gt. but all other thing like hdd,ram, dvd-rw all gone..

gonna spend some money on ram now..
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Very sad to hear that, i know the feeling of things stealed by people,frustrated but u can do nothing. sad.gif
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 19 2007, 03:03 PM)
well..now im more pokai d..
someone broke into my hostel room and steal my ram. luckily i took back home with me my hdd and dvd-rw.
and that burglar is stupid enuff coz he didnt steal my 7300gt. same with my roommate 7300gt. but all other thing like hdd,ram, dvd-rw all gone..

gonna spend some money on ram now..
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maybe he looking for RAM only.. not interested with other stuff biggrin.gif
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doh.gif, this is supposed to be nVIDIA's 7 Series disscussion right? kinda off-topic wink.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 19 2007, 03:06 PM)
whoa you better find out who did it vmad.gif just make some survey who just recently upgraded his RAM, suspicious enough then bang!! you let your PC case open? some cases are like that ..
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well, the cpu was in the locked locker. that guy broke my locker and took the ram. will find out who that person is and pancung him.

QUOTE(chyz66 @ Feb 19 2007, 04:13 PM)
Very sad to hear that, i know the feeling of things stealed by people,frustrated but u can do nothing.  sad.gif
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thanks for the condolences..

QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Feb 19 2007, 05:36 PM)
maybe he looking for RAM only.. not interested with other stuff  biggrin.gif
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i think coz he saw the gc was screwed, so didnt have time to loosen it first. i feel good coz my friend locked his cpu in another locker, all screwed including casing, the cpu itself gone shakehead.gif
QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 19 2007, 06:19 PM)
doh.gif, this is supposed to be nVIDIA's 7 Series disscussion right? kinda off-topic wink.gif
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still not off-topic i guess coz two 7300gt are involved in this case, and weird@luckily not stolen.
but if it is off-topic, sorry. just wanna share my recent sad story.

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 19 2007, 07:01 PM)
well, the cpu was in the locked locker. that guy broke my locker and took the ram. will find out who that person is and pancung him.
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yaa pancung his head liao .. but if inside the locker, kinda silly he only took RAM .. usually RAM stolen with open side panel
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Hi,

I had a question here. I am planning to upgrade my mobo from a Nvidia SLi based to an ATI Crossfire based one.Just wondering, will there be any problem using Nvidia GC on that Xfire mobo?This is because i will be shifting my 7300GT to that mobo when i get it and hopefully it will work fine...

Anyway, this may sound silly but is there any advantage for running SINGLE ATI GC on a Xfire mobo compared to running SINGLE NVIDIA GC on a Xfire mobo?I mean will there be any boost in performance on having an ATI card on an ATI chipset mobo?Thanks..
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anyone using 7600GS or other cards on vista that faces similar problems as me ? icon_question.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=415676&hl=

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 19 2007, 02:03 PM)
well..now im more pokai d..
someone broke into my hostel room and steal my ram. luckily i took back home with me my hdd and dvd-rw.
and that burglar is stupid enuff coz he didnt steal my 7300gt. same with my roommate 7300gt. but all other thing like hdd,ram, dvd-rw all gone..

gonna spend some money on ram now..
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WTF ohmy.gif sry 2 hear that bro sad.gif

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walao willing to starve to death just for that card arr? blink.gif how big is your screen? you play a lot of games huh brows.gif
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i plannng 2 get 19" LCD rclxm9.gif n blast oblivion all the way @ 1280x1024 FSAA x16 AF x16 brows.gif

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I just try OCed my Palit 7600GS to 522.80MHz/1401.02MHz using ATITools 0.26...

Here is my 3D Mark 03 result:

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Feb 20 2007, 11:44 PM)
I just try OCed my Palit 7600GS to 522.80MHz/1401.02MHz using ATITools 0.26...

Here is my 3D Mark 03 result:

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wahh, quite nice score with 7600gs rclxms.gif
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do the latest version of coolbit or rivatuner capable of OC in vista?
the latest forceware for vista cant even view the temperature doh.gif
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QUOTE(Devilc0de @ Feb 20 2007, 10:49 PM)
wahh, quite nice score with 7600gs  rclxms.gif
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Thanks...

Here are my 3D Mark 06 version 1.0.2, will test version 1.1.0 after download and when I free:

Default clock: 450MHz/1000MHz

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OCed clock: 522.80MHz/1401.04MHz

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wahh still not satisfy with the previous result is it? or just wanna test the latest version of 3DMark?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Feb 20 2007, 11:42 PM)
do the latest version of coolbit or rivatuner capable of OC in vista?
the latest forceware for vista cant even view the temperature doh.gif
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vista says 'no-no' to vga oc.
til now. blush.gif

all u can do is to flash ur vga card.
that is,if u know how to do it.

forgive me if im wrong.
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 20 2007, 11:14 AM)
WTF ohmy.gif sry 2 hear that bro sad.gif
i plannng 2 get 19" LCD rclxm9.gif n blast oblivion all the way @ 1280x1024 FSAA x16 AF x16 brows.gif
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Pointless. For a 19inch resolution, the high end 7900 series the 8800gts 320mb should able to get the job done. 16x af is possbile but 16x aa, you can start dreaming dude
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16x AA? ohmy.gif i can sense slideshow laugh.gif

btw, at higher res, i see no point for AA anymore. AF make more sense
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QUOTE(afosz @ Feb 21 2007, 05:01 AM)
wahh still not satisfy with the previous result is it? or just wanna test the latest version of 3DMark?
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Very satisfy...just wanna test the new 3D Mark...see whether it got any different in score...

btw...wanna ask a noob question... blush.gif if I OC my gc using software such as ATITools, is it it will return back to stock clock after restart? unsure.gif I ask becoz that day after I restart my PC, when I check with ATITools, the clock jump back to stock clock... sweat.gif
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well, it even happened with my rivaTuner..
even if i tick on save settings after restart but sometimes the clock turned back to default..
how to fix this?
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that happen to me also until last few days, i decided to bios mod it lol. permanently OC it. dangerous though if the clockspeed set too high. get a PCI graphic card ready lol
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Feb 21 2007, 02:15 PM)
that happen to me also until last few days, i decided to bios mod it lol. permanently OC it. dangerous though if the clockspeed set too high. get a PCI graphic card ready lol
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well my mobo didnt have vga oc in its bios so cannot le.
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Feb 21 2007, 03:26 PM)
well my mobo didnt have vga oc in its bios so cannot le.
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doh.gif, laugh.gif what's that suppose to mean? your card (every card has its own BIOS, not mobo's BIOS)
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Having some problems with RivaTuner.

I set it like so.

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There anything wrong with it? This is because when i restart the pc... Performance 3D Core Speed goes from 451 to 400.

And you'll notice that the Apply Settings at Startup isn't checked.

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 21 2007, 04:11 PM)
Having some problems with RivaTuner.

I set it like so.

There anything wrong with it? This is because when i restart the pc... Performance 3D Core Speed goes from 451 to 400.

And you'll notice that the Apply Settings at Startup isn't checked.
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have your try uncheck "Use Alternate Start Up Daemon"?
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Not just yet. Will try what you suggested.

EDIT: Can't uncheck it for some reason.

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yeah, well mine too, checked but grayed (says can't be unchecked)...regarding your problem, the GPU/Memory clock will revert back to stock everytime you reboot? why don't you use nVIDIA's hidden feature (nVIDIA's CoolBit, instead using RivaTuner)...
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The gigabyte 7900gs is clocked higher than the stock speed of geforce 7900gs.

if I were to run SLI, do I have to get an identically clocked 7900gs?

or do I need to clock down my gigabyte 7900gs to match the second card?


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wanna ask my 7300GT if i sli it with the same 1 worth it? or i just sell both of my card then get a single with better 1?
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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 21 2007, 09:34 PM)
wanna ask my 7300GT if i sli it with the same 1 worth it? or i just sell both of my card then get a single with better 1?
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i think u better get single card... the best is wait for 8600 series to launch.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Feb 21 2007, 08:26 PM)
The gigabyte 7900gs is clocked higher than the stock speed of geforce 7900gs.

if I were to run SLI, do I have to get an identically clocked 7900gs?

or do I need to clock down my gigabyte 7900gs to match the second card?
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it will SLI-enabled, and it'll follow the lower clocked card, anyway, you can always overclock the card (both card) wink.gif

QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 21 2007, 08:34 PM)
wanna ask my 7300GT if i sli it with the same 1 worth it? or i just sell both of my card then get a single with better 1?
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yes, either you can SLI it (1.85 better gameplay if SLI), or sell your 7300GT and get better higher card...7900GS is a good deal i must say... thumbup.gif
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which brand of 7900GS is good without oc.. price?
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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 22 2007, 12:34 AM)
which brand of 7900GS is good without oc.. price?
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as for me, Galaxy, XFX, Palit, LeadTek, Colourful... doh.gif, just notice "without OC", thought, godd with OC tongue.gif, anyway...all listed above is good in OC and without OC...personally, i like Galaxy and XFX, can get Zalman Fan or Zalman-type fan...
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Been using xfx7600gt for half year adi ....

anyone know what is nvidia setting to best optimize performance n quality mar ? there r quite numbers of thingie there n i dun dare touch lol sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 22 2007, 01:01 AM)
Been using xfx7600gt for half year adi ....

anyone know what is nvidia setting to best optimize performance n quality mar ? there r quite numbers of thingie there n i dun dare touch lol  sweat.gif
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mind post us your "nvidia setting" screenie? it might help us to get more info...wink.gif, overclocking? image quality? tweaking something?...just post the "nvidia setting"
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Okie will post up my nvidia screenie this friday ... cz now in my hometown using old rig haha ...

never overclock lo ... juz wan to optimize everything since i buy it juz for average gaming onli laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 22 2007, 01:13 AM)
Okie will post up my nvidia screenie this friday ... cz now in my hometown using old rig haha ...

never overclock lo ... juz wan to optimize everything since i buy it juz for average gaming onli laugh.gif
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well, as for my case (using an overclocked 128MB gDDR3 7300GT), most of my games using medium setting with 4x AA (Anti-Aliasing), 16x AF (Anisotropic Filter), High Image Quality, at 1024x768 resolution wink.gif
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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 22 2007, 12:34 AM)
which brand of 7900GS is good without oc.. price?
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Galaxy, XFX better....comes with Zalman Fan.... rclxms.gif
I am using it right now...serve me well
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 21 2007, 04:22 PM)
yeah, well mine too, checked but grayed (says can't be unchecked)...regarding your problem, the GPU/Memory clock will revert back to stock everytime you reboot? why don't you use nVIDIA's hidden feature (nVIDIA's CoolBit, instead using RivaTuner)...
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I am quite reluctant to use CoolBits since it involved a registry tweak.
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i think i go for galaxy , so far im using my 1 not prob at all.. just wondering 7600GT oc to max can reach 7900 performance?
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stupid question:

Do I need to plug in the 6 pin power connector if I am running a single card only?

NO SLI, just ONE card.

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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Feb 22 2007, 02:08 PM)
stupid question:

Do I need to plug in the 6 pin power connector if I am running a single card only?

NO SLI, just ONE card.

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If the card got the 6 pin socket, it is advisable to plug in the power connector no matter you going to sli or not smile.gif

It needs that extra voltage to ensure enough juice for ur gc.


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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 22 2007, 12:34 AM)
which brand of 7900GS is good without oc.. price?
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Well if you looking for a 7900gs now, I would suggest maybe a x1950pro/gt. The card should perform better with cheaper price tag.
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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 22 2007, 12:52 PM)
I am quite reluctant to use CoolBits since it involved a registry tweak.
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IMO, CoolBit is the most simplest tweak provided by nVIDIA...tongue.gif, it's only enable hidden feature in nVIDIA's card/driver...smile.gif
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Feb 22 2007, 03:07 PM)
Well if you looking for a 7900gs now, I would suggest maybe a x1950pro/gt. The card should perform better with cheaper price tag.
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but i will getting a SLI mobo soon means i need nvidia cards.. SLI mobo can use for crossfire?
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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 22 2007, 05:22 PM)
but i will getting a SLI mobo soon means i need nvidia cards.. SLI mobo can use for crossfire?
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I think can, but only single card lor... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 22 2007, 05:22 PM)
but i will getting a SLI mobo soon means i need nvidia cards.. SLI mobo can use for crossfire?
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Getting a sli mobo will only be convinient if you plan to have a sli setup for your graphic cards, means having 2 cards. Else it will make no difference if as compare to non sli mobo.

Even if you plan to run 2 graphic cards, there still cross fire base mobo which enable cross fire feature for 2 x ati cards.
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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Feb 22 2007, 10:43 PM)
Getting a sli mobo will only be convinient if you plan to have a sli setup for your graphic cards, means having 2 cards. Else it will make no difference if as compare to non sli mobo.

Even if you plan to run 2 graphic cards, there still cross fire base mobo which enable cross fire feature for 2 x ati cards.
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juz wanna ask..do u sli ur gc? i can see ur 3d mark05 quite high for 7600 series.. blink.gif
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Anyone able to hit 2000mhz in 7300GT ? Mine cannot la in benchmark or gaming,only can 2D mode... sad.gif
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 23 2007, 12:06 AM)
juz wanna ask..do u sli ur gc? i can see ur 3d mark05 quite high for 7600 series.. blink.gif
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Well that was my old sli setup which I play with quite some time ago. Didnt update my sig for quite a long time
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@vailance

I bought Inno3D 7900GS 256MB DDR3 (450/1320MHz) for $150. It was the "best bang for the buck".
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There aren't lots of stuff included in the pacakge, and it has a poor cooler. Anyway it is OCable to 600/1750Mhz(maybe more), but with better cooling. At stock cooling, works fine, cool and stable OC-ed to 550/1600Mhz.

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wah.. its nice, but the prob is it need extra power le the GC. my psu lacks of 4pin molex dy.. i was thinking get 2 7600GS or 1 more 7300GT haha.. save money

anyway, riva tuner or the nvidia 1 better for oc?
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Riva Tuner is the best smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2007, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 23 2007, 02:10 AM)
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wah.. its nice, but the prob is it need extra power le the GC. my psu lacks of 4pin molex dy.. i was thinking get 2 7600GS or 1 more 7300GT haha.. save money

anyway, riva tuner or the nvidia 1 better for oc?
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both are the same, provide same overclocking feature too, RivaTuner comes with Hardware Monitoring, while nVIDIA's CoolBit is the most simplest tool, just run the *.reg file, and voila, you just enable overclocking tab in nVIDIA's Driver properties...
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post Feb 23 2007, 02:37 AM

wat??
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i was using the nvidia built in oc tool.. when i run the auto test max oc.. after finish test.. i adjust again all screwd up .. cant make any changes.. is it the driver not stable?
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i found something usefull, here...i don't know if you guys already knew...

GPU Caps Viewer

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Source : Guru3D
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post Feb 23 2007, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(vailance @ Feb 23 2007, 02:10 AM)
@gOJDO

wah.. its nice, but the prob is it need extra power le the GC. my psu lacks of 4pin molex dy.. i was thinking get 2 7600GS or 1 more 7300GT haha.. save money

anyway, riva tuner or the nvidia 1 better for oc?
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Well I think you might need a better psu as for good ones, I rarely heard others having problem on lack of cables.

For 2 x of 7600gs, it even cost more as compare to a single 7900gs or 1950pro. Adding in another 7300gt also wont bring much performance increase since I had tested almost all sli combo in the geforce 7 series.

If you can stick with the single 7300gt for temporarily, I would advice you doing so as you might able to get a 1950pro for below rm600 in a week or two period brows.gif

This post has been edited by sniperwolf: Feb 23 2007, 02:01 PM
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post Feb 23 2007, 01:56 PM

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amd push back the launch of R600 to May, so price might not fluctuate too much again in coming months UNLESS nvidia doing something weird like releasing their low end 8 series
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Push back again...I was waiting for the price drop.
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@gOJDO

Inno3D also sell 7900GS with iChill technology. Why don't u buy it instead of ur current card? Just my thought..

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/417/
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may i know where to download the latest driver for 7600gs agp?

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post Feb 23 2007, 10:51 PM

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errr, nvidia.com?


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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Feb 23 2007, 10:51 PM)
errr, nvidia.com?
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soo true....
btw, always download the stable drivers. beta is like a bet blush.gif
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i trust on Guru3D.com, thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(coolblade @ Feb 23 2007, 01:09 PM)
@gOJDO

Inno3D also sell 7900GS with iChill technology. Why don't u buy it instead of ur current card? Just my thought..

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/417/
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There was no any available. I plan to change the stock cooler with a hand-made(modified s939 copper) one and put passive coolers on the memory chips smile.gif
The card has a lot of OC potentials, just needs better cooling. The core has no problems reaching 600MHz+, but displays corrupted triangles after few minutes torturing. The RAM has no problems reaching 1800MHz.
I tried to unlock the pixel and vertex units, but I didn't succeed. The core is G-71 Rev A2. Cards from BFG with the same core are unlockable, so it is the way to go if anyone plans to buy a 7900GS.

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guys, if my game got error while playing, does it means that my gc oc is not stable? played fear, then after 30mins or so, it exit unexpectedly and have error.
even if i gc my card, the temp really doesnt change much. from 49oc to 51oc only. what can i do to oc it even more higher? cant vmod coz i have no idea of how to do it.
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Hihi ...

This is my Nvidia setting for my 7600GT ...... Should i modify this setting mar ? its default as for now, never touch anything yet blush.gif

lol i quite noob here cry.gif only using technology without know optimize its usage blush.gif


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huh that setting? I never touch that one tongue.gif only overclocking
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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 25 2007, 11:14 AM)
user posted image

Hihi ...

This is my Nvidia setting for my 7600GT ...... Should i modify this setting mar ? its default as for now, never touch anything yet  blush.gif

lol i quite noob here cry.gif only using technology without know optimize its usage  blush.gif
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no need lar..
but u still can try playing with it..
forcing the anti alias and all.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 25 2007, 11:14 AM)
user posted image

Hihi ...

This is my Nvidia setting for my 7600GT ...... Should i modify this setting mar ? its default as for now, never touch anything yet  blush.gif

lol i quite noob here cry.gif only using technology without know optimize its usage  blush.gif
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u can do testing once in a while lo wehn u got bored...no harm pushing n lagging your comp 2 the max 4 a while brows.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 25 2007, 11:14 AM)
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Hihi ...

This is my Nvidia setting for my 7600GT ...... Should i modify this setting mar ? its default as for now, never touch anything yet  blush.gif

lol i quite noob here cry.gif only using technology without know optimize its usage  blush.gif
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hmm.gif, you can enable/disable all features there, but i do recommend this

Anisotropic-Filtering = 16x (the higher the better)
Anisotropic mip filter optimization = Off (???)
Anisotropic sample optimization = Off (???)
Anti-Aliasing settings = 4x (the higher the better - remove jaggy-edge)
Conformant Texture Clamp = Use Hardware (???)
Extension Limit = Off (???)
Force Mipmaps = None (???)
Gamma correct Anti-Aliasing = Supersampling (better IQ - bushes, fence)
Hardware acceleration = Single Display performance mode (single display)
Negative LOD Bias = Clamp (???)
Texture Filtering = High Quality (i used to use this setting all the time)
Transparency Anti-Aliasing = On (better IQ - bushes, fence)
Trilinear Optimization = Off (???)
Triple Buffering = Off (???)
Vertical Sync = Force Off (you might want to disable it since it'll slow your frame rate a lot)

well, that's what i'm at ok...icon_idea.gif
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Leave everything default except

Anisotropic Filtering = OFF
Antialiasing Settings = OFF
Vertical Sync = OFF

This will give you best fps, but lowest quality in games. smile.gif

If you want to make games looks better, just adjust AF and AS, but higher values will make your games more lagging.
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Hehe sniper69 laugh.gif

Follow ur setting liao hopefully can optimize everything happy.gif

Btw, what is fps ?? i saw it once when using ps2 emulator last time :confuse:
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FPS = Frame per second
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QUOTE(Hybrified @ Feb 26 2007, 07:20 PM)
Hehe sniper69 laugh.gif

Follow ur setting liao hopefully can optimize everything happy.gif

Btw, what is fps ??  i saw it once when using ps2 emulator last time :confuse:
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smile.gif, please do note, that setting really work on mine (an overclocked CPU/RAM/GPU/Mem) if you experiencing bad FPS (Frames per Second), you should decrease AA and AF wink.gif
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I was thinking about getting 7900GS, because i dont have enough for a 7900GT, should i just save more and get the GT or should i just get the GS.
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you can get second 7900GT though, actually both are pretty good...
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after dealing twice in lyn forums, ive decided not to buy 2nd hand junks anymore..
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how do we check the fps on all games that we played? is there some sort of command to enter, or maybe a software? sorry if my question was already asked before..
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Feb 27 2007, 10:31 AM)
how do we check the fps on all games that we played? is there some sort of command to enter, or maybe a software? sorry if my question was already asked before..
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Some games have internal FPS display you can activate through command line. Generally I use Fraps, its great. However it can mess with your *ahem* trainers if you use them...
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is there any way to repair a card which has artifacts when running intensive 3d rendering such as games and vista aero, without the need to RMA?? Reset the clock wont help...
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most prolly
some of the parts on the card have malfuntion
phisically,
burnt-in but not completely burnt

so when under low load
these electronics part might do fine

but once under heavyload
the whole system is stressed
so to faulty part might show irregularity in performing the task

for self diy is near impossible
unless u have the time and knowledge to check all parts
on the graphic card it self

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