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post May 25 2020, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 25 2020, 03:42 PM)
I'm using the Azure free trial first to see how it runs. you can use the virtual machine to install the controller. otherwise you need a cloud key or real pc to run 24/7. you can also use raspberry Pi. since the controller cost more than RM 400, I'm thinking of trying rasp pi later on.
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Oh thanx for the explanation. I do run mine on my debian vm. Though in your case having to use one ap, not sure if u benefit running the controller 24/7. Just my 2 cents.
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post May 25 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 25 2020, 03:42 PM)
I'm using the Azure free trial first to see how it runs. you can use the virtual machine to install the controller. otherwise you need a cloud key or real pc to run 24/7. you can also use raspberry Pi. since the controller cost more than RM 400, I'm thinking of trying rasp pi later on.
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I’m running the controller as a Docker instance on a Raspberry Pi 4B with 4G RAM. Not that it needs such a high spec device but since I was buying it new I decided to just get the highest end model.

Note that you should get a metal heat sink enclosure instead of the regular RPi case, since the RPi 4 runs hotter than the previous models. I’m using a passive heat sink enclosure with an active PoE to USB-C adapter so it is powered directly from my EdgeSwitch 8-150W and is silent.

Be careful about the supplied heat sink tape (usually they quote 3M brand) for attaching to the RPi SoC. Although the Heat sink vendor states it is a thermal tape it is not thermally conducting but just able to handle the high temperatures. Check the 3M website for details. I bought the adhesive thermal pad separately to make sure it conducts the heat properly.

The setup works well, though I haven’t tried upgrading the docker instance to the latest version yet. Not sure if the configuration settings will be kept transparently if I just upgrade the docker instance or if I need to export it and reimport it.

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post May 25 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ May 25 2020, 03:48 PM)
Oh thanx for the explanation. I do run mine on my debian vm. Though in your case having to use one ap, not sure if u benefit running the controller 24/7. Just my 2 cents.
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yes, this one for for experimental and for fun only. At first I would like try to use the docker with my synology NAS. too bad my NAS is low spec one to support the docker.
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post May 25 2020, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ May 25 2020, 02:50 PM)
Oh wow. Nobody should need to restart their router anymore. I have a good feeling that problem will go away forever. Erx and ac lr is a very good choice. Bang for bucks in my opinion. Out of curiosity and not being familiar with azure, what makes u choose that for the controller?
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sweat.gif it still need to be restarted whenever annoying problem still occur especially consumer low grade router. btw... did you ever use UFiber nano / Loco? hmm.gif still skeptical how it can be use in Malaysia.

QUOTE(eddyann @ May 25 2020, 04:45 PM)
yes, this one for for experimental and for fun only. At first I would like try to use the docker with my synology NAS. too bad my NAS is low spec one to support the docker.
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old spec? i used one... but it keep crash.. laugh.gif but yeah.. worth to try and experiment.
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 25 2020, 05:56 PM)
sweat.gif  it still need to be restarted whenever annoying problem still occur especially consumer low grade router.  btw... did you ever use UFiber nano / Loco?  hmm.gif  still skeptical how it can be use in Malaysia.
old spec? i used one... but it keep crash.. laugh.gif but yeah.. worth to try and experiment.
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I agree, its 2020. Quite a few brands are now cheap and reliable these days. About the ufiber nano/loco, i doubt it will work with our isp. Tho it did entice me.
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post May 25 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 25 2020, 05:56 PM)
sweat.gif  it still need to be restarted whenever annoying problem still occur especially consumer low grade router.  btw... did you ever use UFiber nano / Loco?   hmm.gif  still skeptical how it can be use in Malaysia.
old spec? i used one... but it keep crash.. laugh.gif but yeah.. worth to try and experiment.
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my previous wifi router ac3150 is not cheap also, and the specs not looks cheap either. dual core broadcom 1.4 GHz processor, 256 MB ram, cost about rm 700 last time. how come spec and price like this the performance is still crappy. just imagine after some weeks of 24/7 usage, the webUI cannot be accessed and the cloud status said the router is offline doh.gif . but the internet and wifi still can be used. it just that i hate it, I cannot monitor it anymore without restarting/on off.

the nAS is a low spec single core CPU ds115j, just good enough for storage. but multiple user operation and webUI operation is a bit laggy. but I can accept that

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post May 26 2020, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ May 25 2020, 07:20 PM)
I agree, its 2020. Quite a few brands are now cheap and reliable these days. About the ufiber nano/loco, i doubt it will work with our isp. Tho it did entice me.
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yea.. cz that ufiber kinda entice me... just not much info on the config.. yawn.gif


QUOTE(eddyann @ May 25 2020, 11:24 PM)
my previous wifi router ac3150 is not cheap also, and the specs not looks cheap either. dual core broadcom 1.4 GHz processor, 256 MB ram, cost about rm 700 last time. how come spec and price like this the performance is still crappy. just imagine after some weeks of 24/7 usage, the webUI cannot be accessed and the cloud status said the router is offline  doh.gif . but the internet and wifi still can be used. it just that i hate it, I cannot monitor it anymore without restarting/on off.

the nAS is a low spec single core CPU ds115j, just good enough for storage. but multiple user operation and webUI operation is a bit laggy. but I can accept that
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yeah.. sucks right.. after spend quite a lot of $$ but did not perform as expected. even worst when cheap router perform better than expensive one.. i see... luckily mine so far can online 24/7 so far.. never restart it except power failure.
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QUOTE(wanttotree @ May 25 2020, 07:20 PM)
I agree, its 2020. Quite a few brands are now cheap and reliable these days. About the ufiber nano/loco, i doubt it will work with our isp. Tho it did entice me.
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I believe ufiber nano/loco will work for Unifi if you have the PON password.

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/11500...hird-Party-OLTs

But what's the benefit of replacing the ONU? You'll ended up having 2 devices as well. ONU + Router

https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-u...ucts/uf-instant <--- This is definitely better if it supports Huawei/Fiberhome/ZTE profile.

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I'm doing the network design for my new house. I plan to get one nanoHD covering my minuscule condo unit ~800sf. In order to maximise the WIFI 5G coverage, I plan to put the AP on the ceiling at the marked location. I wonder how the 5G signal would be from the master bedroom. The two doors in between might reduce the signal strength. I'm open to another AP in the master bedroom but only as the last resort. Thanks.

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ May 26 2020, 05:18 PM)
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I'm doing the network design for my new house. I plan to get one nanoHD covering my minuscule condo unit ~800sf. In order to maximise the WIFI 5G coverage, I plan to put the AP on the ceiling at the marked location. I wonder how the 5G signal would be from the master bedroom. The two doors in between might reduce the signal strength. I'm open to another AP in the master bedroom but only as the last resort. Thanks.
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that is fine.. but have your heard UAP-AC-IW? laugh.gif it able to cover those rooms... that will be good.. since 5G penetration kinda weak. location wise, thats fine it seems
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post May 26 2020, 06:33 PM

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Be aware that sometimes condo wall will be thicker and harder to pass thru signal, due to condo needs to support many many floors, it’s different with normal terrace houses
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ May 26 2020, 05:18 PM)
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I'm doing the network design for my new house. I plan to get one nanoHD covering my minuscule condo unit ~800sf. In order to maximise the WIFI 5G coverage, I plan to put the AP on the ceiling at the marked location. I wonder how the 5G signal would be from the master bedroom. The two doors in between might reduce the signal strength. I'm open to another AP in the master bedroom but only as the last resort. Thanks.
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If you have budget put 2 ap :-) one near the living room another one near the study room area
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after testing countless time doing speedtest for my UAP AC LR (867mbps), at weak spot / weak coverage, the 2.4G connectivity more stable compared to my previous AC3150 (1733mbps) router wifi. less or low jitter observed.

I'm thinking of adding another UAP but targeted for 5G only, does the UAP Nano HD really make a difference compared to the UAP AC LR?

so my plan UAP AC LR for 2.4G only and UAP Nano HD for 5G only.

AC LR I plan for low speed devices such as IoT/smart home sensors. I have a lot 20++ of them and also for Guest

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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 28 2020, 12:59 AM)
after testing countless time doing speedtest for my UAP AC LR (867mbps), at weak spot / weak coverage, the 2.4G connectivity more stable compared to my previous AC3150 (1733mbps) router wifi. less or low jitter observed.

I'm thinking of adding another UAP but targeted for 5G only, does the UAP Nano HD really make a difference compared to the UAP AC LR?

so my plan UAP AC LR for 2.4G only and UAP Nano HD for 5G only.

AC LR I plan for low speed devices such as IoT/smart home sensors. I have a lot 20++ of them and also for Guest
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Then you can separate your ssid... iot on 2.4G.. and browsing use mainly for 5G... nanohd will not cover as much but 5g has capacity for u to utilized. Since its wave2.. it can handle more user at same time. Why not get ac pro?
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 28 2020, 01:36 AM)

Then you can separate your ssid... iot on 2.4G.. and browsing use mainly for 5G... nanohd will not cover as much but 5g has capacity for u to utilized. Since its wave2.. it can handle more user at same time. Why not get ac pro?
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currently the AC LR (867mbps) 5G not powerfull enough compared to my AC3150 (1733mbps)

both wifi at the 1st floor. here are the comparison:

(ground floor speedtest)

a) in the living room = AC LR (85-91 mbps) , AC3150 (93-95 mbps)
b) in the kitchen = AC LR (66-80 mbps), AC3150 (80-91 mbps)

I'm thinking for a better 5G UAP so that at least same performance with my AC3150. so the Nano HD or PRO or something else? is it due to the specs itself? AC LR only 867 mbps, AC3150 (1733 mbps).
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I used to have nanoHD and AC-LR, nanoHD does have a better 5G coverage and higher speed in mid and far point comparing to AC-LR, and better receiving power too. But in 2.4G, totally different story, AC-LR blows nanoHD away.
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QUOTE(heidarren @ May 28 2020, 01:40 PM)
I used to have nanoHD and AC-LR, nanoHD does have a better 5G coverage and higher speed in mid and far point comparing to AC-LR, and better receiving power too. But in 2.4G, totally different story, AC-LR blows nanoHD away.
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yeah, that is why I notice the AC LR performed better than my tplink AC3150 at 2.4G. but worse at 5GHz. so the Nano HD for 5 GHz and AC LR for 2.4 GHz are the best combo? wink.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 28 2020, 09:34 AM)
currently the AC LR (867mbps) 5G not powerfull enough compared to my AC3150 (1733mbps)

both wifi at the 1st floor. here are the comparison:

(ground floor speedtest)

a) in the living room = AC LR (85-91 mbps) , AC3150 (93-95 mbps)
b) in the kitchen = AC LR (66-80 mbps), AC3150 (80-91 mbps)

I'm thinking for a better 5G UAP so that at least same performance with my AC3150. so the Nano HD or PRO or something else? is it due to the specs itself? AC LR only 867 mbps, AC3150 (1733 mbps).
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how bout comparing the bandwidth? HT80 with 40hz? hmm.gif
indeed true cz ac lr are focusing more on covering the distance and coverage. but nanohd and pro.. focus on user capacity.

QUOTE(heidarren @ May 28 2020, 01:40 PM)
I used to have nanoHD and AC-LR, nanoHD does have a better 5G coverage and higher speed in mid and far point comparing to AC-LR, and better receiving power too. But in 2.4G, totally different story, AC-LR blows nanoHD away.
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agree with you. nod.gif
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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 28 2020, 02:29 PM)
yeah, that is why I notice the AC LR performed better than my tplink AC3150 at 2.4G. but worse at 5GHz. so the Nano HD for 5 GHz and AC LR for 2.4 GHz are the best combo?  wink.gif
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best combo... i thinking nanoHD + uap ac M (antenna upgradable)
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Or hold it 1st, UniFi 6 Lite is available on EA store now, price is just about 10USD higher than UAP-AC-LITE, soon they will release for more store. Recently UniFi 6 LR also hits FCC, expect to see them soon in EA store.

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