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TSbazet
post Jan 20 2007, 05:08 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi, My name is Azril and I work for an ISP company.

I'm not hardcore gamers. Just playing DOTA in LAN or over Hamachi...and never play WoW...so I need your guys help me on this.

I've been reading your guys complain about TMNET quality and about bandwidth problem.

I just want to dig more info about WoW.

1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

Ok that's enough........what I need is a technical data that makes playing WoW is heaven.

Email me at : azril.nazli [at] gmail.com
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post Jan 20 2007, 05:45 PM

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From the current TMNet's bandwidth cap, we have only 10kb/sec download rate max outside Malaysia. My World of Warcraft will get a disconnect if the area around my character has a lot of people. I used to have 384kbps download/128kbps upload ADSL on and WoW runs fine with it. I'm sure 384kbps is more than enough to run WoW.

Blizzard uses BitTorrent protocol for patches. Banning P2P ports will cause a problem to updates.

I'm playing around 250-800ms on Illidan server before the bandwidth cap and I'm having 1Mbps/384kbps ADSL. I use Game Card to top up my account.

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1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?

512 can play already.

2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?

Since the servers are based in US id say 300-400 is the best.

3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
Not sure here.


4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.

I dont p2p so i dont mind/i dont know.

5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

I use my CC.

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post Jan 20 2007, 06:13 PM

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1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
512 is min requirement i think
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
of course preferably single digit latency. But tht should be impossible for us. latency around 200-300 and stays that way should make me a very happy WoWer.
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
Not sure what ur asking here but i can say WoW gets evry laggy around crowded areas and pvp matches.
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
Banning p2p is too much la. Maybe can limit it?
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

Credit card
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:44 PM

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if can get >300ms in game, i'll subscribe ur isp ! wink.gif
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post Jan 20 2007, 07:50 PM

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1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?

512. In addition, the periodic patches ranges in size, anywhere from 2mb to a 159mb per patch.

2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?

Maximum 300ms. Players in Singapore are playing with 200 to 300ms. Currently I play on TMnet on 600-800ms, up to 1000ms in crowded areas (mass PvP or player hub areas).

3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )

Like any MMORPG, the client needs constant and reliable connection to the server. Packet loss and latency will adversely affect gameplay and even cause disconnects from the server. Thus a short hop and ping response is needed. WoW was virtually unplayable during the weeks when traffic was rerouted after the Taiwan earthquake (15000 - 25000ms).

4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.

WoW patches are distributed using a downloader that works exactly like Bittorrent, which is a P2P program. Direct download mirrors aren't usually available immediately, thus the BT downloader is almost a necessity for patching WoW.

FYI most of us don't blame P2P for the bandwidth problem, we blame TM's incompetance in anticipating the flow of data. The current "ban" on P2P is hamhanded and making the problem bigger instead of solving it. A packaged deal with download limits would be welcome.

5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

I've used Credit Card and Game Card. WoW requires a Credit Card to authenticate your account in order to be activated.
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post Jan 20 2007, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 20 2007, 05:08 PM)
Hi, My name is Azril and I work for an ISP company.

I'm not hardcore gamers. Just playing DOTA in LAN or over Hamachi...and never play WoW...so I need your guys help me on this.

I've been reading your guys complain about TMNET quality and about bandwidth problem.

I just want to dig more info about WoW.

1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

Ok that's enough........what I need is a technical data that makes playing WoW is heaven.

Email me at : azril.nazli [at] gmail.com
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1.512 i guess
2.100~300ms,but i am happy with 300~500ms too,not asking too much here.
3.wow need atlease 30kb/s~50kb/s download rate to work well and around 10kb/s upload rate.
4. Well,you can always download patch from some mirror site,but normally customer wont feel happy for banning p2p port ,maybe some kind of bandwidth cap(for p2p only) or speed cap will be better.
5.credit card

i found out my connection in wow is a bit better now...but its still laggy,packet sending delay/disconnected when theres alot of packet incoming/outgoing(mean when theres alot of peoples on screen and doing something,my latency flew up from 200 to 2000~10000 ms causing big lag spike and disconnect).
If you are working for tmnet,please help us!:P

This post has been edited by eternallove: Jan 20 2007, 08:41 PM
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post Jan 20 2007, 08:36 PM

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if can get less than 300 latency i am super happy (even if less than 500) and no ban on p2p (updating is painful for wow with banning of p2p)

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post Jan 21 2007, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 20 2007, 05:08 PM)
Hi, My name is Azril and I work for an ISP company.

I'm not hardcore gamers. Just playing DOTA in LAN or over Hamachi...and never play WoW...so I need your guys help me on this.

I've been reading your guys complain about TMNET quality and about bandwidth problem.

I just want to dig more info about WoW.

1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?

Ok that's enough........what I need is a technical data that makes playing WoW is heaven.

Email me at : azril.nazli [at] gmail.com
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1. Wow only need .2 yes Point 2 KB/s Consitancy. During raids / towns / ah, it will rise to .4 yes Point 4 kb/s.

2. 250 - Infinate . yeah vmad.gif

3. Same as one. You will only need that much of consitancy. I've double checked it with some mods and addons that measure perfomance in wow.

4. Banning ports ranges from 10k + will be alright. Below that is a no no since i have alot of "ahem" servers running.

5. Malaysian cant use paypal yet. Its only reserved for aussy and us. Usually pay thru Master. If cannot then we use Gameshive thru molpoint via Maybank2u.com

Hopes this clarify matters
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post Jan 21 2007, 08:06 AM

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Oh by the way.

I am not tellings lies about the wow kb needed. Its really Point2 as in .2kb/s.

The reason why is that wow uses a packet header compression to save valuable packet size. Furthermore the location and movement trigger are locally calculated means that.

Normal MMorpg
You move in RO - RO ask server to move char - Server reply char move - RO shows moving to that loc.

Wow
You move in Wow - Wow sends server move. Done

Thats 2 packet less guys. And why dont they scared of speed hacks or telehacks and such since it is calculated locally you ask.

Wow uses warden aka Nprotect for wow.
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:36 PM

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If the new ISP is renting from TM's backbone, then GG. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:28 PM

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1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
512kbps would be fine
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
200-500ms
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
not sure
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
should be no problem.. i always disable the p2p when downloading patches...
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?
credit card
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:35 PM

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Pinjam thread since my gang need alternative ISP in a critical moment like this. I am from the DoW community and all of us there always play online via GameSpy which server is located in US. Since the APCN2 down, we have trouble having a smooth connection to GS.

Before APCN2 is down, in order for us to play smoothly, we need constant connection 200 ~ 300ms ping to gamespy.com. And to enjoy such a connection is not easy as I have to always disconnect and reconnect just to get the oh-so-rare 218 IP. So if you (or your company) is offering something which is better than TmNut, my gang and I will just come to you.
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post Jan 22 2007, 08:55 AM

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I'll be happy with anything less than 500ms. I've never really played with anything less than 600ms. On average I play with 800ms. When WoW first launched, we were constantly 1k+ ms. After a few months it suddenly went down to 800ms or less when it's less crowded. So anything under 500ms I'll be super happy:)

I've always paid using credit card for the 6 montly deal. But probably will use game card now as someone is selling it really cheap!
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post Jan 22 2007, 09:25 AM

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wow....very good response

I've just downloaded WoW yesterday and play using the 10 days trial....My ping is around 200-300......using the reccomended realms..I forgot the realm name..but it said new and reccomended.

I'm responsible to determine what ports to be opened and close....or open ALL deny SELECTED

This plan is not for WoW only or maybe we can make WoW only plan if the subscribers are many. Before all that happened, I'll need beta testers.

We have a line that not using TMNET backbone......so maybe we can adjust the plan according to the needs.


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post Jan 22 2007, 10:12 AM

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Azril/Bazet..

your latest post especially where you said "We have a line that not using TMNET backbone" sounds very interesting...

More details please.. need beta testers?? Would like to be one.. cover Shah Alam or not?

do tell.. oh do tell..

ps: is this what we all been waiting for? the downfall of Streamyx.. maybe..

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Interesting. I also play WoW and on avg I get around 400-500ms. Looking for response time around 200-300ms myself. I am not too worried if you block p2p if it will assist in providing a good consistent gaming experience. I can always get it from my VPN because anyhow streamyx will throttle all P2P.

If you need a beta tester you can drop me a PM.
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which ISP are u working for? i'm in subang jaya, and i dont mind helping out with the test.

just another question guys: anyone tried broadband from maxis? any comments there? i was thinking of throwing my TMNET account to get something better.

rumour has it that there might be another isp coming up that connects directly to US servers instead of routing from north south east west to US hahaha
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don't mind being a beta tester but you'll need to provide "dummy instructions" on what to do since I'm not very tech savvy...heh
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I cannot reveal here laa..company policy smile.gif..

Well i need to test the line first.......after I'm very sure can get 200-300ms.....then the beta testing alpha will be roll out.

That's why I need to know the ports.

Now....where can I buy gamecard ? Wow prepaid...available near PJ ? Or PJ Digital Mall....


Can somebody make sure is 10k constant connection is enough to play WoW ?

What number of HOPS your looking for ?
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I need the ip address for all the realms..so I can test the HOPS and ping...
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post Jan 22 2007, 12:45 PM

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I am interested in helping out the beta test too, is the area near bangsar gonna be covered?

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BTW will Kuching be covered? We have quite a number of online gamers who are interested too!
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We currently serving in Klang Valley area.

Currently we are testing MESH technology, hope this will reduce latency between client to our gateway and direct to the pipe.....
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MESH? hmm about the ip address for realms is hard to tell coz i cant check myself
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post Jan 22 2007, 02:36 PM

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if u want to test, pls go to ironforge or stormwind... if u can get 200ms-300ms there, it would be good enough tongue.gif
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lol IF there at least around 700- 900
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post Jan 22 2007, 02:47 PM

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ok 10q..I'll play the game it self...and look the latency from there from different realms
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Just FYI, Amanthul server (Oceanic PvE) is quite laggy compared to other servers.

And you'll need to play Alliance to properly test out latencies in Ironforge/Stormwind.
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QUOTE(kiasu @ Jan 22 2007, 02:36 PM)
if u want to test, pls go to ironforge or stormwind... if u can get 200ms-300ms there, it would be good enough tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 22 2007, 02:47 PM)
ok 10q..I'll play the game it self...and look the latency from there from different realms
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pls check frostmourne as well.
beside sw n IF in mention, pls as well check out -outland -honor hold.

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i'm in dath remar...damn lag last night in IronForge.
but then other places ok got around 400+ only
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BE starting area lagging like hell, around 900~1k on Dath Remar.
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LMAO~ as expected, that's y i'm not so keen on the expansion set yet. still waiting for the collector's edition.
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If u want to check the latency in there. Goto:
A) Ironforge if u're alliance.
B) Ogrimmar if u're horde.

Around 8am onwards till 1pm (M'sian time), that should be the peak hr in there. If the latency doesnt raise up till 1k, then its all good. smile.gif
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I arrived at office early.. 7am log in into wow
here is my test result....

Nagrand as tauren - 196ms
Thaurissan as tauren - 391ms

the color will switch yellow to green.....

Will test again in peak hour....12-1pm
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Thaurissan is new and Oceanic. IE under populated and peak hour is about 5pm to 10pm Malaysian time.

If you're doing research in this area, might be a good idea to check out highly populated servers like Thrall (US server) and Khaz'garoth (Oceanic) but both of these are PvE.
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u can try frostmourne and aman 'thul as well
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one question
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I'm getting addicted with WoW. Now I'm using 10days trial. Can I just use my CC to sambung bayar the game ? Or I need the CD Key for my account ?

I've downloaded 3.7G of WOW and still need sperate CD Key ?
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you can actually upgrade from 10 days trial to full account using ur CC. i think it's around RM75 only
haha u're not the only one who is addicted to wow. everyone here is

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cc pay they will upgrade ur acc eidi but then need to pay how much i not sure.

welcome to wow. lol


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upgrading ur account from 10days to permenant is US$19.99 X 3.53 (today exchange rate) = RM70.50
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why x3.53? I thought RM is tied to USD at 3.8 then add bank's commission etc should be even higher?

Or am I hopelessly outdated?
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QUOTE(seen @ Jan 23 2007, 11:01 AM)
why x3.53? I thought RM is tied to USD at 3.8 then add bank's commission etc should be even higher?

Or am I hopelessly outdated?
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yup. U'r hopelessly outdated laugh.gif The gov decided to release the tie last year. It's should be around 3.62 right now.

Better bail out now or your life is finish. haha. Welcome to the World of Warcraft bazet. hehe.


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hahaha seen seen...where have u been all these months??? sucked in the world of warcraft?
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Doh........ I need to get used to this new instance call "life"....

But see? Whoever said that trolling forums are useless?

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3.53......aiyoh..my adsense income will be lower....my adsense income for last month was USD284.00 ....

Ok another question
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Running WoW in Cybercafe, does this thing need to pay seperate license fee to the game rights in Malaysia ( sort of Warcraft ).....

My other company wing, operating a bowling centre with cybercafe...so I'm thinking of installing WoW in the pcs there...but I'm worried about licensing...i mean game license.
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 23 2007, 12:29 PM)
3.53......aiyoh..my adsense income will be lower....my adsense income for last month was USD284.00  ....

Ok another question
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Running WoW in Cybercafe, does this thing need to pay seperate license fee to the game rights in Malaysia ( sort of Warcraft ).....

My other company wing, operating a bowling centre with cybercafe...so I'm thinking of installing WoW in the pcs there...but I'm worried about licensing...i mean game license.
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Yes u need to go to http://www.playpark.net/warcraft/licensed/index.aspx
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Hi,

Just a couple of quick questions. Are you just testing WoW on the US servers? Or will also be including the other servers such as EU/Oceania?

If your ISP works out, any immediate plans to roll it out to the rest of Malaysia? In particular, East Malaysia biggrin.gif
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currently on Oceanic......and so far so good..never reached 500ms barrier mark..normally at 300++...highest peak around 450ms++....

WIll test on most queue server ..the problem is..I don't remember which realm is the most popular...
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well in game u can go where u can select realm, u can see the realm status whether is it full or medium, try to access the medium or high servers

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For Oceanic, Khaz'goroth is one of the higher populated ones. It was the first and ONLY Oceanic PvE server back then. Weekend queues used to reach about 45-60mins wait time. I think it's a bit better now as they've been offering free transfers from Khaz to other new Oceanic PvE servers.
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Bazet..

try Malygos.... sometimes I hv to queue like 30-45 minutes just to connect to it..


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For peak time gaming, try between 5 pm - 9 pm Malaysian time. The Oceanic servers would have higher loadings when the Oz + NZ players come on. For US Servers, when it's nightime their time (different servers have different timings)- better to check with US servers since their population is a lot more than Oceanic servers. (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/index.php)

Also weekend gaming starting Friday night. Saturday and Sunday would be packed.

Check out the battlegrounds during those periods as well, especially AV.
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 23 2007, 08:07 AM)
I arrived at office early.. 7am log in into wow
here is my test result....

Nagrand as tauren - 196ms
Thaurissan as tauren - 391ms

the color will switch yellow to green.....

Will test again in peak hour....12-1pm
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If those are your first times in WoW the lag there is no indication of what you're about to face. You're probably in the noob starting zones and there's very little lag in those areas. It's only in main cities like Orgrimmar (Horde) or Ironforge (Alliance) that you will see higher numbers. Then again, with the expansion even those cities are deserted at times.

The best way to see your lag is to enter into an Alterac Valley battlegrounds where there are 40 Horde vs 40 Alliance in a single map. Unfortunately AV is only for level 51 and above.
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bump, wtb update
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If those are your first times in WoW the lag there is no indication of what you're about to face. You're probably in the noob starting zones and there's very little lag in those areas. It's only in main cities like Orgrimmar (Horde) or Ironforge (Alliance) that you will see higher numbers. Then again, with the expansion even those cities are deserted at times.

The best way to see your lag is to enter into an Alterac Valley battlegrounds where there are 40 Horde vs 40 Alliance in a single map. Unfortunately AV is only for level 51 and above.
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well u can go to outland n try and honor hold. lol there sometimes lag a bit, i got like 600+ max so far. maybe coz i'm playing somewhere 10pm
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I'm currently connected to 63.241.255.110 port 3724 for Illidan server. I got this infro from CFOSSpeed Settings menu on Current Connections tab for wow.exe .
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omg i dont know how ill survive playing wow in msia with those latency
rite now i live in seoul and been playing wow korean version since beta
my internet connection is 80mps and only has 8~10ms latency
lagging never occur
maybe i've to retire and sell all my chars after i finish my study here sad.gif
but i do hope streamyx can improve within this year biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 22 2007, 01:42 PM)
We currently serving in Klang Valley area.

Currently we are testing MESH technology, hope this will reduce latency between client to our gateway and direct to the pipe.....
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CYBERJAYA! Will you connect here, assuming all goes well?

The game is not playable AT ALL during the day, with regular lag that spikes up to 30 seconds, even!
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pls pls pls East malaysia. (kuching to be exact)

very kesian us here, no digi broadband, no maxis broadband, stuck with the damn lousy streamyx.

until now their customer service cant answer my question why diffrent ip get diffrent speed! >.<

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Hi Bazet,

any news on when this alternative ISP will be released to the public?
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can you have a higher plan that will give us lower than 300ms and maximum 300ms
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if your company provides stable connection with low latency and the same price as TM without all the crap caps, you're gonna need to ensure that your system can handle the load cause lots of people will sign up for it (that includes me too) wink.gif
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QUOTE(viper_1129 @ Jan 30 2007, 05:15 PM)
if your company provides stable connection with low latency and the same price as TM without all the crap caps, you're gonna need to ensure that your system can handle the load cause lots of people will sign up for it (that includes me too) wink.gif
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ME too! i played wow for like 7 months...n retired due to the lagness in this country...(a very sad reason of quitting)....

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QUOTE(viper_1129 @ Jan 30 2007, 05:15 PM)
if your company provides stable connection with low latency and the same price as TM without all the crap caps, you're gonna need to ensure that your system can handle the load cause lots of people will sign up for it (that includes me too) wink.gif
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Even if it's a little higher than TM, I'm willing to pay if you can guarantee a consistant performance. thumbup.gif
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No news yet. STill configuring and a lot of tests...

Currently our office are migrating all the hardware to gigabit connection ( LAN )


I'll update here ASAP. I just need more time to test and compare the result. I have to make sure I can deliver what I can promise...500ms morning, afternoon,dawn and night.........


Added on January 30, 2007, 8:05 pmThaurissan & Nagrand suddenly very laggy. I don't know why.

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Well, just to let you know, despite the low amount of replies onto this topic, there are a lot of views and users speculating this thread.
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Seriously if the connection is constant and smooth , i will anytime change to ur isp rather den stick with tmnet. check out other isp as well , jaring is not cover my USJ 4 area , sad ... maxis still using their old backbone which is not recommended to change, but damansara is heaven for maxis, torrents download easily reach 500-600kbs during the nite when they release all the ports, during the day, the will control home user and gave piriority to the cooperate user but home user dont feel the lag dats all.
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Ok here's how you can help me.

1. Only open World of Warcraft.
2. ALT + TAB to windows
3. Goe to Command Prompt
4. Type netstat -a
5. Look for connection UDP 3724
6. Copy the url.
7. Paste it here


For example, today I test at Nagrand, and Nagrand ip adress is :


TCP azril:1034 NASARL:netbios-ssn ESTABLISHED
TCP azril:1049 12.129.232.114:3724 TIME_WAIT
TCP azril:1050 12-129-225-43.attens.net:3724 ESTABLISHED


Nagrand : 12-129-225-43.attens.net



Then I can test traceroute, hops,ping for every realms smile.gif


Added on January 31, 2007, 9:44 amNagrand and Thaurissan both from attens.net and I cannot resolve the subdomain IP..........

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will do so tonight. smile.gif
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this method wont work.. blizzard servers are protected, i was reading some on the technical support forum. just need to go on each server manually to test the ping
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Just to make sure that I'm not putting too much hope here. Your line would be independent from TM or Maxis entirely right? Not subcontracted in anyway?
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QUOTE(viper_1129 @ Feb 2 2007, 12:09 PM)
Just to make sure that I'm not putting too much hope here. Your line would be independent from TM or Maxis entirely right? Not subcontracted in anyway?
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whether it is or isn't, if can do both P2P downloads and play WoW at the same time, thumbup.gif

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Khazgorath is THE most populated server on the planet...b4 they opend up free transfers..there were 19k players on kahz...compared to 5-6k for other relams

in outlands, with 218ip i can get 600-700...used to be 300+ b4 the quake
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 30 2007, 07:40 PM)
No news yet. STill configuring and a lot of tests...

Currently our office are migrating all the hardware to gigabit connection ( LAN )
I'll update here ASAP. I just need more time to test and compare the result. I have to make sure I can deliver what I can promise...500ms morning, afternoon,dawn and night.........


Added on January 30, 2007, 8:05 pmThaurissan & Nagrand suddenly very laggy. I don't know why.
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If you can do that at 500ms all the time, you can bet that I'll fully support you. Last time TMNet can give us that in IF even <400ms. But than it doesn't last long.
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We are not using TMNET backbone, that's for sure.



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I wonder why it is so secretive for your company, Azril. If a new technology is coming by, it should be announce, or maybe it is because they might scrap it? just like wimax...

Don't take it wrongly, no offense at all. I am looking forward to this espeically those ISP that look into games, and ofcourse metrophon.

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I wonder why it is so secretive for your company, Azril. If a new technology is coming by, it should be announce, or maybe it is because they might scrap it? just like wimax...

Don't take it wrongly, no offense at all. I am looking forward to this espeically those ISP that look into games, and ofcourse metrophon.
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I think this is common strategy practice. They are still at their research phase, which means not even 100% sure that they will release that product. Secondly, if they announce it now, who knows what big companies like TM will do to sabotage? Or even be one step ahead? It's just like when we "attempt" to raid IF, we don't assemble outside IF, we get the raid ready THEN we travel to IF. Just to gain that competitive edge.
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he should go to a server where AQ is still not open yet and attend the opening. if his connection can last that, everyone will for sure join.
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Jan 20 2007, 06:44 PM)
if can get >300ms in game, i'll subscribe ur isp !  wink.gif
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lady, >300ms is already 0.3 second lagged. Are you saying <300ms ???
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QUOTE(bazet @ Jan 30 2007, 07:40 PM)
...I have to make sure I can deliver what I can promise...500ms morning, afternoon,dawn and night.........
500ms mean the in game latency, or the ping\tracert responsiveness to WoW server?

and how's it gonna perform under 25 raid, 40 raid as well?
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500ms mean the in game latency, or the ping\tracert responsiveness to WoW server?

and how's it gonna perform under 25 raid, 40 raid as well?
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25- and 45-man raids are not big events.

Opening of AQ gates : that's big world event. The first 3 hrs would be hectic.

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Dear bazet,


here da detail you need

1. What's the minimum speed ( kbps ) to play WoW ?
A: i'm using 1mb package streamyx
2. What kind of latency you're looking for ?
A: best ping:100 to 300, bad ping: 800 to 10kms
3. The connection stability...what makes WoW didn't disconnect..the minimum bandwidth ? ( imagine streaming windows need at least 256kbps to make it looks 30fps on scree ..so I need to know WoW minimum bandwidth )
A: i'm not sure abit this but i believe up to 50 should be good
4. If I banned P2P ports on my connection plan, will you happy on it ? Since you guys always blamed P2P for the bandwidth problem.
A: i do download sometimes, only animation
5. How do guys pay the monthly subscription for WoW ? credit card ? Paypal ?
A: i'm using credit card.

i'm staying in cheras area at tmn rasa sayang near batu 9 police station, been using streamyx around 4years , from old house to new house getting IP start with 60.-48 to 52, worse ping always, i used to from gorgonash server but moving to dragonmaw server now, the tracert i ping is taiwan website, cmd - www.hinet.net -t

average ping and in game experience:
100ms : ingame - 200 to 300 latency
300ms to 500ms : ingame - 500 to 1k latency
500ms more : ingame disconnection coming,latency up to 10k

i never affected by crowded area or anything, as i know it depend on your pc and line mostly, the reason some people affected latency up due to crowed might cause by the pc as i used to had pentium p3, i did had this problem till i changed my pc to amd duo core and better graphic card, so now the problem i had mostly is affected by the connection.

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which server has most malaysian play?

I started my toons for like 1 week.. now is 42 warlock.. I find hard to party with my fren from NA due to my work. Currently I'm in Korgath, considering to transfer my toons to a more +8 gmt frenly server. any clue?

thx
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probably the older servers.
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probably the older servers.
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Nah, my first server is one of the oldest server in WoW and it's population is only medium with maybe 5 malaysian tops?

which server has most malaysian play?

I started my toons for like 1 week.. now is 42 warlock.. I find hard to party with my fren from NA due to my work. Currently I'm in Korgath, considering to transfer my toons to a more +8 gmt frenly server. any clue?

thx

We don't know which server has the MOST malaysians, but I know Thaurissan and Gorgonnash have quite a few of us. Korgath is pvp or pve? And the toon you wanna transfer is horde or reliance? if you've only started for 1 week and dont have many hard to get epics, might as well just reroll since transferring your toons will cost you USD25 per toon. Unless of course u're damn rich then imma just gonna shuttup :\

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im not rich but thx for advice..
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Nah, my first server is one of the oldest server in WoW and it's population is only medium with maybe 5 malaysian tops?

which server has most malaysian play?

I started my toons for like 1 week.. now is 42 warlock.. I find hard to party with my fren from NA due to my work. Currently I'm in Korgath, considering to transfer my toons to a more +8 gmt frenly server. any clue?

thx

We don't know which server has the MOST malaysians, but I know Thaurissan and Gorgonnash have quite a few of us. Korgath is pvp or pve? And the toon you wanna transfer is horde or reliance? if you've only started for 1 week and dont have many hard to get epics, might as well just reroll since transferring your toons will cost you USD25 per toon. Unless of course u're damn rich then imma just gonna shuttup :\
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oh well. thought that older servers might have a bigger community.

i'm actually not so bothered about having to play with malaysians actually, knowing that it may not be so easy to fine them. yes, it's a comfort blanket but not the do-or-die comfort blanket.

GMT+8 servers : none are fix to that timezone. Unless you mean the Oceanic ones but those are set to GMT+10 Sydney time. I have met a lot of Asians from other countries (e.g. singaporeans, philipines) in the US servers during GMT+8 friendly time.

have an NZ guildie who spent about US100 moving all his toons from US servers to oceanic servers.
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QUOTE(Krovaxq @ Jan 30 2007, 05:55 PM)
ME too! i played wow for like 7 months...n retired due to the lagness in this country...(a very sad reason of quitting)....

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Same here... I've given up.

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bazet, out of curiousity, when you mention that your company is not using the same backbone as TMNET, does that mean that you're either using satellite / WiMAX / 3G?

coz I can't think of any other gateway other than the 2 that is currently owned by TMNET. so only other connections is via something in the air?


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PNC laa that one smile.gif ...but I'll give a hint...straight to HK mainland....

OK here is my research.

WoW actually doesn't need a lot of bandwidth, theoritically, you can play WoW using TMNET 1315 modem.

I've installed linux bridge to monitor traffic between my LAN to main switch.

Using realtime traffic monitor

IPTRAF recorded these :

Incoming rates : 1.0kbps/sec | 1.2 packets/sec
Outgoing rates : 2.3 kbps/sec | 1.6 packets/sec
Total rates : 3.4kbps/sec | 2.8packets/sec
Wow Latency : 382ms
Realm: Thaurissan

But if I activated Utorrent and using only 100kbps from 1024kbps ( max bandwidth in my dept ).....WoW will suffers...and the lag will topped 5000kbps......only with uTorrent activated.

The PC running uTorrent is using these ports
TCP/UDP Recently Used Ports
Client Port

* 1059
* 1041
* 1130
* 1132
* 1133

Server Port
* 1421
* 2360
* 1041

WoW..I think using port 3xxx ..I have forgotten.

So imagine a 1024kbps bandwidth with no torrent service, I think it can easily serve a lot of WoW players easily.

Well..my hunter just reached lvl 12..and I need to test the bandwidth in raids......

That's for today

For network monitoring purpose
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OS : Linux Centos 4.4 transparent bridge with 2 NICs bridged uisng bridge-utils
Monitoring : IPTRAF ( realtime ), NTOP ( bandwidth summary ), MasterShaper ( shaping utils )
Firewall : IPTABLES

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Well..my hunter just reached lvl 12..and I need to test the bandwidth in raids......

That's for today

For network monitoring purpose
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OS : Linux Centos 4.4 transparent bridge with 2 NICs bridged uisng bridge-utils
Monitoring : IPTRAF ( realtime ), NTOP ( bandwidth summary ), MasterShaper ( shaping utils )
Firewall : IPTABLES
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Umm, ideally, test out in Blackwing Lair's suppression room, coz many people (including myself) had many problems in there, but that was before TBC. But it might be hard unless some people help you as you'll need a guild big and experienced enough to get u to that place and I don't think it's possible if you're anything below 60.

Any guildmasters here with a BWL farm mode guild willing to help out for the good of the Malaysian WoW Community? biggrin.gif
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or bazet has to invite the guild to his CCs to test it out.

but then, no more PNC. ;p

theoretically, u're correct that a 56kbps modem can work. realistically, hmmm...

oh, one more thing. you forgot a VoIP software for raid communication. usually TS or Ventrilo is used. so you might want to check again.

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QUOTE(bazet @ Feb 8 2007, 12:27 PM)
PNC laa that one smile.gif ...but I'll give a hint...straight to HK mainland....

OK here is my research.

WoW actually doesn't need a lot of bandwidth, theoritically, you can play WoW using TMNET 1315 modem.

I've installed linux bridge to monitor traffic between my LAN to main switch.

Using realtime traffic monitor

IPTRAF recorded these :

Incoming rates : 1.0kbps/sec | 1.2 packets/sec
Outgoing rates : 2.3 kbps/sec | 1.6 packets/sec
Total rates : 3.4kbps/sec | 2.8packets/sec
Wow Latency : 382ms
Realm: Thaurissan

But if I activated Utorrent and using only 100kbps from 1024kbps ( max bandwidth in my dept ).....WoW will suffers...and the lag will topped 5000kbps......only with uTorrent activated.

The PC running uTorrent is using these ports
TCP/UDP Recently Used Ports
Client Port

    * 1059
    * 1041
    * 1130
    * 1132
    * 1133

Server Port
    * 1421
    * 2360
    * 1041

WoW..I think using port 3xxx ..I have forgotten.

So imagine a 1024kbps bandwidth with no torrent service, I think it can easily serve a lot of WoW players easily.

Well..my hunter just reached lvl 12..and I need to test the bandwidth in raids......

That's for today

For network monitoring purpose
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OS : Linux Centos 4.4 transparent bridge with 2 NICs bridged uisng bridge-utils
Monitoring : IPTRAF ( realtime ), NTOP ( bandwidth summary ), MasterShaper ( shaping utils )
Firewall : IPTABLES
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You are in Thaurissan? I think the realm has a rather low population. You need to go to those with max population and move to major cities or even possible, to outland. A full blown proper regression test on the bandwidth needs to be taken account for highly populated areas for all periods, both peak and non-peak.
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I think you should try Khaz'goroth. One of the highest if not the highest populated. It's an Oceanic PVE server. I think a few has already mentioned this.
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I think you should try Khaz'goroth. One of the highest if not the highest populated. It's an Oceanic PVE server. I think a few has already mentioned this.
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I sometimes wonder why Blizz always say that Oceanic servers are never pack compared to the US servers. Even when it's full.

If you're using Realm Census data as an indication of server population, might not be so good. Blues have come back time and time again to say that their data doesn't say that it's congested.

Full servers are usually those with long queuing times. If you get onto one that is longer than 30 min, you know it's a damn full server.
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Any news yet? I have yet to open my Burning Crusade CE...

 

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