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QiW
post Jun 21 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 21 2009, 01:39 PM)
This is something i'm looking forward to...
Too bad don't have 4G3 kit unless buy separately... which might cost more.
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i am still short on info .. info on ppl who spektrum their 4g3 are few and scattered all over
plus me newbie in the hobby .. makes things even worse
then thing that makes me wanna spektrum the 4g3 is becoz #1 i can use my dx7 with it .. #2 HH gyro ... hahahahahaaa

cliffang ... since u are in the hobby longer i would assume u are more familiar with the way the electronics work on heli

would the servos of the 4g3 work with a spektrum receiver ??
spektrum receiver voltage will be bumped up to 5v or so using voltage step up module
the output of the receiver to the servos are what voltages ?? 5v ?? i dunno if the servos of the 4G3 can take 5v ..
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post Jun 21 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 21 2009, 01:11 PM)
Why don't consider 4G3?? You fly coaxial, can upgrade to CP lo...  icon_rolleyes.gif
Next month i'll drop by Graffiti to check if they have the 4G3 v3.
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If crash a lot of parts have to changed wor if I go for CP.......I'm still new to this fp or cp......I know that the fp will be much more unstable or difficult to fly than coaxial..... If I go for cp then I have to buy some spare part to standby liao lor.....smile.gif Where is Graffiti? Check the 4#3b as well.....smile.gif

QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 21 2009, 01:35 PM)
1 motor hot or both motors hot ?? if only 1 motor then u know liau lorr ... 1 motor is spinning faster than the other .. the slower/hotter motor is starting to die liau .. hahahahahaaa
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Not sure....I will check again in my next flight......

So for my future heli I better get brushless since the rotor can last longer or forever I guess.....

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post Jun 21 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:23 PM)
If crash a lot of parts have to changed wor if I go for CP.......I'm still new to this fp or cp......I know that the fp will be much more unstable or difficult to fly than coaxial..... If I go for cp then I have to buy some spare part to standby liao lor.....smile.gif Where is Graffiti? Check the 4#3b as well.....smile.gif
Not sure....I will check again in my next flight......

So for my future heli I better get brushless since the rotor can last longer or forever I guess.....
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yaa ... brushless by theory can last u forever laa
but then u go crash and physically damage the thing cannot say liau lorr .. hahahahaaa

the difference in cp and fp is in the HEAD .. cp head has more parts and components thus making it more difficult to setup and repair .. thats it
after saying that .. got sifoo told me this morning that cp will be easier to control coz headspeed is much higher .. the downside is cyclic will be more sensitive and quick .. higher headspeed when u crash the blades into something then of coz more damage laa ... hahahaahahaa
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post Jun 21 2009, 10:48 PM

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err ... what can i say ??
hovering the 4g3 out on the front porch in 1 car space with mild wind is a mini challenge now .. hovering indoors can go on indefinitely until batt runs out

it shows perseverance and determination pays .. hahahaha

on the other hand ... i just rewound the tail motor ... 2nd rewind in 3 days coz after 1st rewind motor was not starting up smoothly and inconsistent
after spending the last 3 hours making sure everything was good and smooth .. hovered another pack in bedroom easily ... hahahahaa

pics of 2nd rewind coming tomoro tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 08:36 AM

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Take some video lar....like to see you flying your full brushless 4g3....in your porch, living room or maybe bedroom..... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 09:00 AM

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Like that Allan can advance to hovering the 450 Pro in no time liao...
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post Jun 22 2009, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 21 2009, 01:55 PM)
i am still short on info .. info on ppl who spektrum their 4g3 are few and scattered all over
plus me newbie in the hobby .. makes things even worse
then thing that makes me wanna spektrum the 4g3 is becoz #1 i can use my dx7 with it .. #2 HH gyro ... hahahahahaaa

cliffang ... since u are in the hobby longer i would assume u are more familiar with the way the electronics work on heli

would the servos of the 4g3 work with a spektrum receiver ??
spektrum receiver voltage will be bumped up to 5v or so using voltage step up module
the output of the receiver to the servos are what voltages ?? 5v ?? i dunno if the servos of the 4G3 can take 5v ..
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The servo of walkera is rated at 4.8V as normal servo, so spektrum can work with it provided the ESC is 4.8v. Just need to mod the plug to fit spektrum. The 4 in 1 RX had a voltage regulator which is quite useful.
All of this is by understanding, we need to see the actual unit, tested out with DMM to confirm.
The mod shouldn't be hard. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 22 2009, 09:09 AM)
The servo of walkera is rated at 4.8V as normal servo, so spektrum can work with it provided the ESC is 4.8v. Just need to mod the plug to fit spektrum. The 4 in 1 RX had a voltage regulator which is quite useful.
All of this is by understanding, we need to see the actual unit, tested out with DMM to confirm.
The mod shouldn't be hard. thumbup.gif
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hmm ... like this i wait for u to get your 4g3 or 4#3 and convert to spektrum/JR (they are the same sheet anyways)
then i follow .. dont wanna go the next step without full info la me .. hehehe


Added on June 22, 2009, 9:33 am
QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 22 2009, 08:36 AM)
Take some video lar....like to see you flying your full brushless 4g3....in your porch, living room or maybe bedroom..... biggrin.gif
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ya .. will take video soon and put up ... damm tired and lazee liau after last 2 days .. hahahaaha

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post Jun 22 2009, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 22 2009, 09:32 AM)
hmm ... like this i wait for u to get your 4g3 or 4#3 and convert to spektrum/JR (they are the same sheet anyways)
then i follow .. dont wanna go the next step without full info la me .. hehehe


Added on June 22, 2009, 9:33 am

ya .. will take video soon and put up ... damm tired and lazee liau after last 2 days .. hahahaaha
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Then you'll have to wait... I'm slow slow upgrade de... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 22 2009, 09:49 AM)
Then you'll have to wait... I'm slow slow upgrade de...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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nvm .. me not in hurry tongue.gif
in the mean time i can learn to hover super steady and some FF lorr .. hehehe
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post Jun 22 2009, 10:00 AM

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This is something we should be doing if goting for an upgrade.
Just change the RX and add gyro, provided the voltage from the BEC of ESC is rated at 4.8v.
Allan, maybe you can check the voltage with DMM do double confirm.


Added on June 22, 2009, 10:04 am
QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 21 2009, 02:23 PM)
If crash a lot of parts have to changed wor if I go for CP.......I'm still new to this fp or cp......I know that the fp will be much more unstable or difficult to fly than coaxial..... If I go for cp then I have to buy some spare part to standby liao lor.....smile.gif Where is Graffiti? Check the 4#3b as well.....smile.gif
Not sure....I will check again in my next flight......
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Graffiti is at Time square, KL. Hitz is familiar with it.

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post Jun 22 2009, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 22 2009, 10:00 AM)
This is something we should be doing if goting for an upgrade.
Just change the RX and add gyro, provided the voltage from the BEC of ESC is rated at 4.8v.
Allan, maybe you can check the voltage with DMM do double confirm.


Added on June 22, 2009, 10:04 am
Graffiti is at Time square, KL. Hitz is familiar with it.
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Here the Graffiti address and contact detail... They even have their own website now... thumbup.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Jun 22 2009, 10:00 AM)
This is something we should be doing if goting for an upgrade.
Just change the RX and add gyro, provided the voltage from the BEC of ESC is rated at 4.8v.
Allan, maybe you can check the voltage with DMM do double confirm.


Added on June 22, 2009, 10:04 am
Graffiti is at Time square, KL. Hitz is familiar with it.
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hmmm ... this one will have to wait abit ... my multimeter die liau ... need to go get new one tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:10 AM

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Now I'm thinking to get 4G3 instead of 4#3b hmm.gif biggrin.gif
Graffiti not selling walkera 4#3b or 4G3 wor......
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:11 AM

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Anyone know where to buy the Direct Drive motor for the HBFP2? Mine seem no power liao... Can hover about 2min max then the tail will give way...


Added on June 22, 2009, 11:12 am
QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 22 2009, 11:10 AM)
Now I'm thinking to get 4G3 instead of 4#3b hmm.gif  biggrin.gif
Graffiti not selling walkera 4#3b or 4G3 wor......
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They got sale both but not the latest version i think...

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post Jun 22 2009, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(hitz @ Jun 22 2009, 11:11 AM)
Anyone know where to buy the Direct Drive motor for the HBFP2? Mine seem no power liao... Can hover about 2min max then the tail will give way...


Added on June 22, 2009, 11:12 am

They got sale both but not the latest version i think...
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OEM parts oso dont have meh ??
DD is aftermarket stuff or what ?? your tail runs with gear mehsing one rite ??
if DD then the rpm and all have to check liau and count liau .. your big and small gear how many teeth and what kv your current motor specs
otherwise cannot get the correct rpm to match the power of the main motor
convert to brushless laa ... can last forever if u dont bang it .. hehehe


Added on June 22, 2009, 11:51 am
QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 22 2009, 11:10 AM)
Now I'm thinking to get 4G3 instead of 4#3b hmm.gif  biggrin.gif
Graffiti not selling walkera 4#3b or 4G3 wor......
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u sure or not ?? high HS crash alot of things can go wrong one worr .. hehehe
if u serious then go offer uniqueXme a price for his USED almost new 4G3 la .. brushless main motor with brushed tail .. its good enuff for u to learn until can hover b4 upgrading ... even if u upgrade walkera OEM BL tail its only usd35 ... not expensive
then get tools and parts ready to repair the thing for the 1st 1-2 months ... by that time u would have gathered enuff technical info and flight time to hover well liau hopefully .. tongue.gif

i am thinking of offering uniqueXme for his used 4G3 liau .. get another one into my collection .. see how much he willing to nego ... hehehe

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post Jun 22 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 22 2009, 11:47 AM)
u sure or not ?? high HS crash alot of things can go wrong one worr .. hehehe
if u serious then go offer uniqueXme a price for his USED almost new 4G3 la .. brushless main motor with brushed tail .. its good enuff for u to learn until can hover b4 upgrading ... even if u upgrade walkera OEM BL tail its only usd35 ... not expensive
then get tools and parts ready to repair the thing for the 1st 1-2 months ... by that time u would have gathered enuff technical info and flight time to hover well liau hopefully .. tongue.gif

i am thinking of offering uniqueXme for his used 4G3 liau .. get another one into my collection .. see how much he willing to nego ... hehehe
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Wow, allan you are really a heli collector... notworthy.gif
Meantime i'll have to stop shopping for a while, had allocate my fund into another new business..
Good for you...

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post Jun 22 2009, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 22 2009, 11:47 AM)
OEM parts oso dont have meh ??
DD is aftermarket stuff or what ?? your tail runs with gear mehsing one rite ??
if DD then the rpm and all have to check liau and count liau .. your big and small gear how many teeth and what kv your current motor specs
otherwise cannot get the correct rpm to match the power of the main motor
convert to brushless laa ... can last forever if u dont bang it .. hehehe
Brushless is for other heli... tongue.gif
DD is aftermarket stuff... Oversea got lot's but here tarak... rclxub.gif
The DD is plug and play for HBFP2... whistling.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Jun 22 2009, 11:47 AM)
u sure or not ?? high HS crash alot of things can go wrong one worr .. hehehe
if u serious then go offer uniqueXme a price for his USED almost new 4G3 la .. brushless main motor with brushed tail .. its good enuff for u to learn until can hover b4 upgrading ... even if u upgrade walkera OEM BL tail its only usd35 ... not expensive
then get tools and parts ready to repair the thing for the 1st 1-2 months ... by that time u would have gathered enuff technical info and flight time to hover well liau hopefully .. tongue.gif

i am thinking of offering uniqueXme for his used 4G3 liau .. get another one into my collection .. see how much he willing to nego ... hehehe
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Ok, let's say I bought the 4#3b now (RM580 full brushless) and when I master flying this heli few months later I will think about to buy 4G3 (RM880). Why not I just go for 4G3 now and this will saved me at least RM580...... I will try to learn a bit a time....slow slow hovering and try to avoid crash lor if can lar..... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck06 @ Jun 22 2009, 12:41 PM)
Ok, let's say I bought the 4#3b now (RM580 full brushless) and when I master flying this heli few months later I will think about to buy 4G3 (RM880). Why not I just go for 4G3 now and this will saved me at least RM580...... I will try to learn a bit a time....slow slow hovering and try to avoid crash lor if can lar.....  biggrin.gif
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its all entirely up to u ... if u think u can do it then just do it lorr
i have gone thru it and still going thru it ... hehehe

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