Have been following the Toyota Sienta since it launched in Japan last year. Seems like it is finally coming here to Malaysia.
















Key items are
- VSC/TRC
- 3 airbags
- Hill Start Assist
- all round disc brake
- auto sliding power door
- dive in seat configuration

Specification
1.5L dual VVTI (107ps 143nm)
7 speed CVT

Measurements
- 4,235 mm long, 1,695 mm wide and 1,700 mm tall

Price
G - RM92,000
v - RM99,000


Basically seems like a perfect car for a small family with a sub 100k budget. Nothing much to shout about in terms of performance, but What i find most interesting is the seat confIguration in 5 seater mode where the third row 'dives' under the second row seats, freeing up a lot of space for cargo. And of course, the power sliding doors and low access to the car. Perfect for families with small babies or old parents. Looks wise also is more love it or hate it, but the main selling point is probably its practicality and decent safety line up

What do you think guys? Falling in love with this car 😁
My final wish will be for it to come in hybrid variants, but probably might cost a bomb

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 3 2016, 12:31 PM

ugly

Sien Ta = Letih Dia

Love this color for the Japan spec but doubt that UMW will bring this in

Its a better looking Honda Freed!!!

eh, not selling at 150K meh? why so cheap...... UMW you got to be kidding right, you sell this who gonna buy your god car ? Sell this at RM 150K then ppl will compare with serena and biante... heck many will compare this with Alza.... Malaysians.......

singapore uber using this car

3rd row seats can throw away. Useless.

Yep, would be removing it permanently

I wonder if have rear disc brakes? Safety first.

This is actually the avanza structure with a sliding door, hence the competitive pricing.

I've been following this car as well. Looking for a sliding door car but not in a rush to buy now. This mpv doesn't seem to generate as much interests on the internet. I think, if wait a few months after launch, should have some decent discounts.

Anyway, my thoughts in layman terms:

Pro:
- has the stability features vsc
- sliding doors
- not too high or too low. Just about the right height to slide into the seats for elderly people. Of course, I need to see the car first to get a feel of it.
- listed $120 road tax. Dislike paying too much taxes.
- big boot space if 3rd row seats tucked in. I don't need 3rd row much.

Cons:
- 3 airbags.
- I don't like the rear looks. Kinda weird. Front is still acceptable.

This post has been edited by ftan: Jul 3 2016, 08:22 PM

It's like selecting Miss Ugly of the year.

i saw this car during auto show. The door surprised me, at first i didnt know they have automatic door on both side. even alphard ( the old model ) only on one side. But their build quality is plasticky but for this price it is negligible.

With the third row diving under the second row for storage i dont think it will be necessary to remove the seats hence the practicality. I think ill be using it as a regular 5 seater with extra storage, and only 7 if really necessary than using it as a pure 7 seater people carrier.

A photo to demo the dive in feature







Spec sheet does seem to indicate all four are disc brakes

I believe the finishing is far better compared to avanza. Probably on par with the likes of vios from the photos. But still need to see the actual car to judge

Exactly my thought. There isnt any buzz about the arrival of this model where i feel it deserves more attention. Looks wise, not the best out there but i think looks is a bonus for this segment.

It will save me the hassle of getting out of my car to open the car for my wife with baby though those electric power sliding doors.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 3 2016, 11:32 PM

Based on the spec sheet, the lower variant only has one side power door though.

ok la than Freed/ Avanza

You did not see Honda Freed before? Basically the same thing.

7 seater with a 1.5L engine? Surely underpowered. U need diesel turbo for this purpose.

most likely when this launch they will take off the current Innova and launch new innova with a much higher price tag around 130k something compare to the 90k-110k current model

Go for it then.

Most likely I'm leaning towards buying this car. But as mentioned, I'm not in a hurry.

There are not many new car models with sliding-doors. I was looking at the Serena, Biante and Mazda 5 although different segment and more expensive.

Like i mentioned, i will be using it primary as a 5 seater leaving me with a large and high cargo storage area in the back. Getting a sedan would limit my storage. Especially the way strollers take up space in my current boot. 😅

Current innova is 105k for the manual variant if im not mistaken. High spec goes all the way to 118-120k. To steep for my budget and too large or me at the moment

Im actually in a similar situation as you. My purchase will be relevant in the next 2-3 years so not in a hurry either, the sienta just happens to fit my needs quite perfectly.

Hopefully the deal gets better around next year. Probably some good deals for 2016 leftover stocks. 😁

Was just wondering if its actually smaller than alza in terms of dimension

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 4 2016, 12:44 PM

I don't mind getting this as daily driver. Just need to make sure it has 4 disc brakes and CVT gearbox.

Gonna retire my 3008 instead.

so ugly meh ==

lol. this crappy MPV also got people interested?

This car is for carrying the family from a to b, not to do racing. Drum brakes will do a good enough job at stopping the car when need be. At least drum brakes can achieve that, there are some cars that stop really fast... despite having drum brakes. I'd be more interested in more than 3 airbags...

This car is a lot like the Kangoo, just even more flexible and with better thought out rear seats. The jury is still out on how good the rear seats are (they are pretty great on the Kangoo, as long as your legs aren't too long, but the seating position is much more comfortable than in the Alza or Touran, despite the Touran having a lot more leg room). Sliding doors are super practical, being electric even more so. Entrance for the elderly should be even better than in the Kangoo, thanks to a wider opening around the footwell.

Looking at aztechx photos it looks like the seat is quite high compared to where the feet go, which means you can sit quite comfortably in the 3rd row. Not perfect, but a lot better than some much more expensive MPVs.

@wkc5657: How so? Is this rear wheel drive? What relationship could this car (developed and sold in Japan) have with the Avanza (developed in Indonesia, not sold in Japan)?

I've been in the previous Sienta a couple of times... it's fine. Not great, the ride isn't as good as the Kangoo's ride for example, but it's fine. Interior quality is acceptable. It's an affordable car after all.

This car is relatively short, but spacious inside. Great if you live in a place with tight car parks, say, KL. Can fit in places where other 7 seaters or even sedans can't fit. Big advantage. Looks isn't everything, and at least they try to make it look interesting. The Avanza looks like a crappy 15 year old car wearing make up (which, erm, it is).

If I needed a 7 seater MPV, this would be it. (And yes, I'm a notorious Toyota hater).

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 4 2016, 09:36 PM

Browsing through the spec sheet at toyota website did show a solid and ventilated disc configuration meaning all four will indeed come with disc brakes. But probably a feature that could easily be not noticeable during daily commute.

Apparently the sienta is currently the number 1 selling mpv in Japan, the hybrid variant that is. Reviews are currently only in Japanese and 1-2 decent indoenesian review. They seem to be happy with the third row despite their knees obviously touching the fromt row. Dont think a full grown adult is suited for those seats. Still haveto physically try it out at showrooms.

Few cars have a 3rd row suitable for full grown adults, especially not small MPVs. What matters is if it suitable for kids. And I think the Sienta could be. In comparison, the VW Touran isn't suitable for kids. It only works with amputees that lack the part below the knees, because there is no space for that.

I'm tentatively planning for next year. Let's see what is on offer then. If this car isn't popular, then it might get discontinued like the Honda Freed in few years time. But I think it should do reasonably ok. Would be perfect if they had more airbags.

Looks about the same size or slightly bigger than Alza.

if they launch a hybrid version here that would be great. the add on hybrid election motor could help with the lack of power

I may have made my conclusions too early regarding that as there were so much reference in a number of articles on this model comparing it against the Avanza. The sienta is front wheel driven whilst the avanza is rear wheel driven. They may share the same powertrain though.

It is a much funkier car compared to the Honda Freed. There's no 7 seater that has such a modern-ish design with bold colours, it will appeal to young gen-y and gen-z families. Should be well received if they price it around 85k-95k region. Compared to the Livina or Freed, I'll also prefer the Sienta.

There is a comparison on youtube for the comparison Sienta vs Freed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emv48vR3vFk

Another bummer is the lack of leather seat option. Having small babies around, quite essential to have leather seats for me. Probably might push the price much higher with 7 leather seats.

No worries. The drive train might be the same, yeah. We'll see.

Mh. The Citroen C4 Grand Picasso looks kind of funky too, plus is a lot more attractive. It's a much bigger car though, and more expensive.

Leather seats... I prefer Alcantara. Doesn't burn your bum as bad as leather, not so slippery...

Already announced G specs RM92,900 & V specs RM99,900

Im seeing this Sienta in SG almost everyday. I would say the design does stand out among Toyota models. It looks modern too, suitable for city.

Ya and it is around 50% more expensive! way to do a comparison

Especially those who chose the bolder colours, really stand out on the road. Makes BRV look meh....

The BRV is already on the road in SG?

Was considering that too but i believe it is more of ak 'avanza-like' vehicle.

By the way the sienta will be displayed at mitsui outlet park between 5th-10th this month. Can go take a peek.

Wow, ok. Now I'm tempted to go and see. I wonder if it's opened today and tomorrow.

Saw it on the 'Mitsui Outlet Park KLIA Sepang' facebook page. Since its a store inside mitsui it should be opened daily. Will only be back on Friday. Hope to see it by then.

Yes, I saw a number of singapore registered BRV on the road.

Yup, it's open. I'm at the mall outlet now. Overall, it's better than I expected. Will post more later.

Update based on my observations:
1. Looks and feels slightly bigger than alza. Just my impression. Didn't check the exact specs.
2. The rear isn't that ugly in real life. Still weird but not as bad from the pictures.
3. Second row seats are comfortable and quite spacious. Higher than the driver's row.
4. Third row fits me ok for my size. I think it will be cramp for the guys.
5. Sliding door is wide enough but it got stuck halfway and couldn't close. Might be a potential issue. Maybe too many people handling the car.
6. Quite a lot of people checking out the car. I honestly don't know if it will translate to better sales.
7. Brown color seats doesn't look nice.
8. Hard plastics on the dashboard.

Ok, that's all for now. I took some pictures but no time to post them. It's a pain to upload via hp.

This post has been edited by ftan: Jul 6 2016, 09:16 PM

Pictures below.


This post has been edited by ftan: Jul 6 2016, 09:14 PM

Whooaaa..judging that this is a weekday crowd, might be hard for me to play around with the car with my family tagging along.was expecting an empty car

Thanks alot for the quick review ftan! And the photos! U sure made the rear look less odd from that angle.it does look,well..unique.. 😁 were those 1st row rear seat adjusted all the way back?

P/s : what phone did u use to capture those photos. Crystal clear indoor shots! 😅

I actually find the brown seats to suit the dark overall interior of the car. The previous photos all seem to show a much lighter tone of brown probably due to camera flash. Will have to check its out in flesh this friday. You got me excited already 😝

About the door, Had the same problem with an alphard door awhile back, it was due to me not being familiar with the doors control, flipped the door open, someone pulled the door handle and i pressed the lock/unlock button. Ended up stuck just like you described. Had to turn on and off the car for it to work again. Hope it doesnt turn out as a regular issue.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 6 2016, 09:36 PM

First row seats were untouched. Don't think it was adjusted all the way back as I could still rest my foot on the pedal just fine.

Fyi, played around with the second row seats. I think it was adjusted all the way back. Ample space.

Used iPhone 6s Plus.

When you go on Friday, let us know if the sliding door is as what you described or it's really a malfunction.

This post has been edited by ftan: Jul 7 2016, 12:17 AM

I was in Mitsui around 6PM in yesterday to check out this Sienta after my spouse insist to have a look at it as we missed the change to see it during Mines Auto fair.
The display unit is V grade, which is the highest spec in Malaysia market with price tag RM99900 OTR , not sure why they do not bring in Q grade to MY market from Indo.

First impression: This looks much better than Alza and Grand Livana from outlook!
The leg room for 2nd row is way more better but not for 3rd row, unless you move slightly 2nd row seat to front, then you will notice the leg room for 3rd row is slightly better.

The power-sliding door does not open automatically when I pulled the handle, same situation with the rear door cannot be opened.
The SA told us that both does not work as the battery is flat and for last two days there are a lot people open/close it frequently.
It does not have one touch button on door handle (unlike JP spec) so that it will open automatically when press it.

Not sure why Sienta in SEA market only comes with three airbag (two front and knee), unlike the JP spec comes with six airbags (two front, two side and two curtain shield).
Probably our life is not worth it and does not deserve for better spec.



I found the leaflets in the showroom, which you can refer below.

Man.. i hope they bring in the hybrid version here 😑

Ya, the BRV doesnt stand out much, will mistaken it as a Airwave if didnt look closely.

Will do, but based on soyusa's comment below, battery drain too is possible it seems. I assumed those doors will still work mechanically in the case of no power.

By the way another question would be, are the rear seats as comfortable as a sedan rear seat?doesnt look that way, thats the particular reason my wife isnt so interested with the car. Besides the fact that whatever you keep in the cargo area is visible from outside. and the 'simplistic' aircond controls. I have alot of convincing to do.haha

Wished it came with more airbags too. But with the sub 100k price, i think all the other offerings are only offering two as standard.correct me if im wrong.

For the power doors, you mean it is activated from the outside by handle pull instead of button?
What does the q grade offer in indonesia?

Anyway thanks alot for the input and the leaflet screen shots, gave me a few ideas on what to look out for. Just wonder how well it rides and comfort against the likes of vios/city

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 7 2016, 09:49 AM

Thats quite a surprise actually, initial review from paultan seems to speak highly on the design giving me the impression it could be a hit.

At the 70k-80k price point i think the BRV could sell volumes for those SUV adopters who cant afford the current line of choices.

I didn't sit long since there were many ppl hovering around. My first impression is the second row seats were very comfortable. Need to test drive the car first to see if the seats are acceptable when car is in motion.

I would say the design of BRV is quite mainstream. You can simply name a few cars with such design such as Airwave and Suzuki Ertiga? Meanwhile, Sienta's design is more like a Renault Kangoo type, high roof, lower floor, flat back, sliding doors. I would say it is a practical car.

Yup, from my understanding that we have to pull and release the handle from outside then the sliding door will open automatically.
I did the same in yesterday but not working, ended up have to pull the handle move toward back in order to open the door.
Malaysia and Indonesia version does not have the button to press from the handle to open the sliding door.

I check from the review from Youtube as in below to compare the HK and Indonesia's market.



For Indonesia car price, can check from here or below (They have E model and comes with Manual Transmission too):

Type E Type E MT - Rp. 230.000.000,00
Type E Type E CVT - Rp. 248.000.000,00
Type G Type G MT - Rp. 242.000.000,00
Type G Type G CVT - Rp. 260.000.000,00
Type V Type V MT - Rp. 257.000.000,00
Type V Type V CVT - Rp. 275.000.000,00
Type Q Type Q CVT - Rp. 295.000.000,00

I'd say it's economics. The question is, what do customers want? What are they going to pay for? So far the thinking at car makers seems to be that while additional airbags cost money, people just don't care that much. If you show them a car with 6 airbags and steel rims, or a car with 2 airbags and alloy rims + maybe leather seats or a flashy aftermarket radio, both costing the same, they will get the car with alloy rims.

Now, if that is still true... who knows. But as long as they can sell cars without additional airbags, they will.

For my Golf there is the option of 2 additional airbags for rear passengers, it costs RM 1600. In comparison, some other popular items: Sun roof: RM 4700. Leather: Minimum RM 8900. HID: RM 3800. Radio (stock comes without radio I think): Minimum RM 1800. Rear doors: RM 9000.

And going back to safety features: Adaptive cruise control with automatic braking in emergency situations: RM 2400. Lane assist with self correcting feature (doesn't only warn you if you leave the lane, but steers the car back into the lane/holds the lane): RM 3200. Traffic sign recognition (has the same camera as lane assist, so if you have it, the car can be hacked to offer lane assist too): RM 1400.

So airbags are a cheap option, relatively speaking, but it is one deemed unnecessary for the SEA market. Just look at Proton sales vs Perodua sales. The significantly safer car easily loses. Or look at the Golf in Malaysia: VW could have ordered all the safety features, which would add up to RM 8600 (airbags, adaptive cruise control, traffic sign recognition and lane assist). Maybe drop the 150 hp engine, get 120 instead, that should pretty much even out what you pay extra for the safety features.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 7 2016, 05:07 PM

The width 1695mm is the same as serena, at first aiming serena but now i am interested in this sienta in term of its price and size

is this sienta already launch here?

It depends on how much space you need and how many people you are fetching. Serena has bigger space and can sit adults nicely in the last row seats.

Not yet. I checked in mudah and it says in August.

I went to Mitsui outlet 2 days ago after seeing the email mentioning you can view this car there. Something funny is that, the SA told me he is yet to go through any training and perhaps if you ask them, they might not be able to answer you much in regards to this car features, etc. You can start the car to see how the MID and player work.. and some wrong info from the leftlet and stupid Toyota website which enter wrongly on the Height info which is supposed to be 1675 instead of 1695.. Also, the SA told me the V spec got nothing to upgrade but the website spec showing the player still upgradable to NAV version and will cost 2K+ for this upgrade which I think is unreasoable unless there is some additional features, i.e mirrorlink, wifi, etc beside navigation annd 7" LCD..

Anyway, will need to test drive the car when it is officially launch on August.

The car is lower as compare to Avanza(wrong Toyota info which mention both same height) by anyway, only 2cm.

Anyone notice about the front car driving video recorder? kind of interesting stuff there.. when I was there 2 days ago, both sliding doors working fine..

Anybody know why Toyota/UMW didnt apply for EEV on this car?? if they apply for EEV, the car price might be around 90K which they could attract more buyer but will kill the Avanza sales perhaps..

Finally some rational remarks on this issue. Spot on there.

Somehow, there will always be nasty remarks on missing features such as airbags etc, and eventual buyers who purchase because of available items. Its a matter of which crowd is bigger. For some reasons, the latter seems to attract a much bigger crowd and customers. Perhaps the lack of awareness.

Cant blame the car makers. These car makers are doing business, profit and volume is what matters. They can claim to have 24 airbags but if no one buys the car they are screwed. They will evolve with the market. Thats what they have been doing for the past 50 years or so and which is why they still survive today.

Interesting point though on the availability of the optional items on vw.

If im not mistaken, the indonesian sienta is built with a higher ground clearance than the japan spec ones. Since we are importing from there i assume ours would be higher too.

"The 170 mm ground clearance on Indonesian models is 25 mm higher than on the JDM cars, presumably to cope with the rougher roads."
http://<link removed>/2016/04/07/iims-2016-to...d-in-indonesia/

Spec sheet says that the V grade will come with driving recorder. None on the lower variant. Will try to find out more on the navi upgrade option.

Oh, and ive given up on getting useful info from salesman nowadays. Better off searching on my own than kena con by this people

The sienta passes as an EEV?

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 8 2016, 12:43 PM

The Sienta non-hybrid version FC is around 20.6km/l and Hybrid is 27.2km/l as according to Japan JC08 test cycle. So this car should easily passing the EEV requirements under segment C category.. So if they secure EEV duty rebate from government, what will be the car price then? The Hybrid version should be using the similar engine as the Prius C and some Singapore Sienta user can even get an average FC of 31km/l on the Hybrid version..

The low FC is also one of the reason why I am consider this car as to replace my 10 years old Toyota Avanza 1.5G

This post has been edited by calk: Jul 8 2016, 12:49 PM

Interesting. Is it possible that the current price IS already with EEV exemptions?

Doubt that there will be a hybrid since the gov only approves CKD hybrids to enjoy the incentives. Maybe after the new plant arrives we might see it depending on how well it sells now.

Just noticed that the sienta is heavier than the avanza??never expected that. Hopefully the cute 1.5 engine can pull its weight

Ya did a spec comparison but dont think the height is correct as what stated in the website or leftlet as feel that car is really lower as compare to my avanza.. Anyway, do not think the current price has consider EEV as else it should be stated there and SA mention no.. Anyway, not too sure whether is the EEV only applicable for CKD car or also include the CBU version too..

Sienta seem like a single product, not build on any existing toyota platform. Whereas Honda B-rv is built on Brio or Amaza platform. B-RV is not a JDM model. Got to wait till Honda launch it, to do a actual comparison.

Just check the Indonesia spec, seen like the Height is also 1695mm which should be the same as Avanza height.. so in this case, the cabin height should be higher as compare to Avanza.. but when sit inside feel lower... perhaps they raise up the seat so have not natural sitting like on a normal chair

Have seen the actual BRV and I would say it is not that nice looking car. It looks a MPV on stilt yet lower than a SUV.

U seen the actual B-RV, in India right? it look like a cross over between mpv and suv.

More solid... and hybrid drivetrain also weights a bit.

I thought EEV and hybrid incentives are for CKD cars only?

already see banner hanging in toyota showroom but no car display

in Singapore, sir.

Went to take a look at the car awhile ago. Was lucky that i had a good 15 mts alone with the car.

Not a single sole, around including the salesmen. It was all empty. All electrics on the car were off. Assume battery was dead. Doors open only by push and couldnt open the rear door to checkout the cargo space properly.

I had a few criteria as my priority to look out for today, in summary

COMFORT
- seat comfort beyond expectation. Currently driving a peugeot 207 and the comfort of the sienta far exceeds that
- 2nd row too was very comfortable as well. Wife was happy with the seat padding and the chair reclines up to 45 degrees with the headrest shaped perfectly as a pillow.
- 3rd row, didnt expect much to be honest from the thin seat materials in the photo. But again it exceeded my expectations. Seat was firm and comfortable enough and surprisingly leg room was sufficient with the second row moved slightly forward. (My Height ~175cm) in the alza i had to bend my knees sideways but could comfortably fit my knees in the sienta. With the second row pushed all the way back, not so comfortable as the front seat frames pushes into your shins.

I believe the extra space at the last row comes from the higher position of those seats and the large space available under the second row.

PRACTICALITY
- the Sienta excels here. Was surprised by how effortless it was to tuck the seats in and out under 30 seconds even when accessed from the side doors. I believe female drivers will appreciate this.
- storage and cupholders and secret compartments everywhere and blended in well with the design.
- however i did find the front cupholders to be slightly annoying when getting into the car.
- wife could very easily get in and out from the car with a baby in hand.
- the flat flooring in the rear is a big plus for a car like this. Really does give a spacious feel.


Flat floor on the rear

CARGO AREA
- in 5 seats configuration, space is abundant. Distance from the rear to the seats are standard as per normal sedan, vios/city.
- not happy that there doesnt seem to be a cover to form a flat surface to cover the gaps between the folded seats. japan specs seems to have this.
- trunk tray is available but the size is for 7 seat configuration and with seats folded, i doubt that it will be useful at all.
Imagine putting in a heavy luggage bag with half of it on the tray and the other half outside. Moght probably remove it all together
- couldnt judge the space properly due to the rear door not working
- with 7 seats configuration and fully reclined seats, a standard luggage back would not fit upright.
- with 5 seats configuration you can fit a baby elephant there. (Luggage can be stacked compared to sedan)


Looks like the tray cant be removed due to a hidden compartment under


DESIGN
- beautiful in flesh
- rear might not suit many but not much can be done with such a flat surface
- the car actually appears lower than it actually is. Might be the curves or overall stance shying away from a typical van look.
- The dashboard motives actually looked good in flesh. Materials looks good to the eyes but of course, all plastic. (would have preferred those orange touch like the Japan model)

OTHERS
- aircond panel doesnt look as cheap as in the photos. The glossy finish and soft button touch was actually good.
- if you are sitting in the rear, you might notice that the driver is very low due to the stadium seating arrangement

Thats all i can remember as of now. Will upload some photos as soon as i have the time. paultan seems to have an extensive undressing of the car with hi-res photos as well

Next of course would be a test drive to see the NVH level ,comfort and if it has sufficient power for casual driving. If it scores decently there, i think my decision would be quite clear.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 8 2016, 11:59 PM

nice observation... the car overall looks fine to me just the engine is abit too underpowered for a 7 seater. even my innova with 2.0 also feel sluggish with 7 can't imagine this... will be like Avanza all over again

Somehow, this car doesn't feel as high as Avanza. I own Avanza as well. When do you plan to upgrade?

aztechx, good write up.

Nice preview.
in term of size, Sienta is comparable to Alza and Avanza. It offer better safety feature, comfort level, .. ...
Need to pay fork out premier of 20k to 30k over the others 2.

What color is nice for sienta? I'm thinking the grey or white.

White is nice, resemble space trooper

Orange

Now that you mentioned it, yeah, it does resemble them. As much as I like the white, I probably won't get that color. Worry it will get dirty easily.

Yeah, this looks like their signature color from their ads. It's nice.

Honestly, this looks more Alza than Avanza

Seems like they made avanza solely to test the market with underpowered compact 7 seater then to really unleashed this design. If I were too tight with budget I might head into this direction as it met all my requirements except for the engine power. I need that power to cross Titiwangsa or overtake a 'freighter'. Livina 1.8 is currently in my list of budget transporter. Im not bothered, cosmetically, as Savvy was in the list back in 2008 but myvi gained the upperhand in space and extra fart in can produce.

Extra airbags? Buy a lot of pillows and padded them spots where you think necessary. Heck, implore the passengers to wear float jacket, helmet on, seat belt and sealed the will before boarding. Not enough? Contact Russia for cheap spacewalk suits.

If you jump out of the window, you think a small pillow is going to save you?

How is 107 hp too little for a small MPV? It will do fine. If you want to accelerate, here's a hint: Push the pedal to the metal. Maybe you'll need to rev the engine (especially since it is NA... in terms of power delivery turbocharged 1.2s with the same amount of power are better to drive, more effortless). If you watch (many) Malaysians and how they accelerate, you'd think they all have 40 hp at most. Would more power hurt? Probably not. But it'll do.

Our MPV has 75 hp, and a crappy 4 speed auto box that ate up most of the power. Guess what: It was enough to go with the flow and drive faster than most other drivers.

Anyway, it's an MPV, not a sports car.

I would say avanza and alza is less premium since both are basically daihatsus, with cost saving in mind. It was probably never meant to target customers who can afford b segments like the of vios/city. More for those who want a budget people carrier.

The premium for the sienta would be on the finishing,comfort and safety features. At below 100k i believe thats a large market for it to potentially eat through.

Initially considered white, but after seeing the orange, it seems to have a more metallic look to it giving the car a more expensive look but worried it might look dated after some time, and possibly affecting its resale value.wonder if the white is metallic.

Picking a dark color like black or grey might mask the prominent lines that this car features. Would love to have the yellow highlighter color.

In conclusion........

Probably at the cost of higher fuel consumption.

For me you can never have a combination of everything.

Price
Features
Safety
Performance
Comfort

They give more of something, something else has to go. If they give everything price has to 'go'.

And i apologize in advance for probably being one of those 40hp drivers.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 10 2016, 11:42 PM

Now that you've mentioned it

As if airbags can do a proper job but yes better than nothing. Ive seen more than enough pictures of poor souls make it to the other realm, that with the airbag deployed. Again the more the merrier.

I prefer torque. HP yes that lambo passed me as if my car hardly moves at 110kmh only 50km later Im back counting how many engine fart holes it has. Maybe the driver stopped to pee wrote his name on the pavement so yea I caught up.

Which 75hp MPV?

I have no complains about my avanza. It gets the job done going from A to B. It's just budget mpv, as you say. It does lack safety features that are currently present is newer car models. So, the safety aspect would be in my criteria list when buying next car.

You could be right about dark colors masking the prominent lines of the car. I need to have a look at the real thing.


PedangGila, I think kadajawi meant his renault kangoo mpv.

I am driving an 10 years old Avanza 1.5G which still work for me to take 8 persons(2 kids) from KL to Penang to Cameron highland without any problem.. I was looking for an upgrade now and was considering Nissan Serena(to me, quality so so after test drive and car too big for occasional use as MPV-fetch more than 5 persons).
Honestly I am happy with Toyota build quality but sometime not so happy about their service center(particular the aircond guy) but still I am servicing my car in Toyota for the past 10 years.. Anyway, plan to trade in at UMW and book white or silver Sienta end this week..

Please keep us posted. You are one of the first in this forum to get the sienta.

Oh really? thought those SA keep on telling me that, there are lots of booking for now since they open for booking from 2nd June. Anyway, will see and anyone could recommend which bank offer the best interest rate?

Yup, economics. I hope Toyota will offer more option to get safety features, but in reality for MY market (or SEA) in the past until now, still the same.
Well, at least they bring-in this new Sienta to MY market, it is better than nothing.

Nice review~
I shall only decice should I get it after test drive.