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post Aug 18 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 17 2016, 11:01 AM)
Well.. a car with full of accessories and unused features to me is useless.. a car which give me a peace of mind without giving me problem or inconvenient is one that I want..

Car is to give me the convenient and safety for my family when traveling and other than this, just optional or secondary..

No offense.. just as long as a car suit your needs, you will happy to buy it..

If you are not interested on Sienta, not sure why you want to post any bad comment about this car here? Dont like it, just ignored it and walk away loh..
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So you're the type of buyer UMW is looking for. 6 airbags? Don't need it cause it's an unused feature. Useless. Most people go through their entire ownership without ever using it. Hell in most minor fender benders it doesn't even deploy! So useless!

I've only heard of such buyer. First time meeting one, albeit electronically.

And before your rebuttal, you're entitled to your opinion cause it's your money. I just find it amusing.
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post Sep 4 2016, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(soyusa @ Sep 3 2016, 09:31 AM)
I will choose Sienta over Wish recon with one major reason - worry free for car warranty in next five years.
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Fair point, but I'll take the wish and won't worry about a thing. Because the wish is a Toyota, not a Volkswagen. Nothing to worry about.

I'll take my chances, cause to me the wish is overall a better car especially with the airbags for my whole family.

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post Sep 5 2016, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 4 2016, 10:53 PM)
In my opinion, current toyota wish not a better car than sienta. It's already outdated compare to sienta bcoz it being released in 2009. In term of practicality, space usage, fc, tech; certainly sienta better. If not Sienta will not be best seller mpv in japan.
Not all recond toyota wish got more airbags either.

However I sure next gen wish will be better car. So that toyota can capture more target market.
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Depends what you consider "better". 3 vs 8 airbags, 3 is better for your usage, sure. Like I said, safety is a priority for me in a MPV, especially my passengers.
Oh, release in 2009? In terms of tech Sienta better? What tech? I know the engine is not better. The Valvematic engine in the Wish is better in every way than the dual VVT-i in the Sienta.

FC? 1.5L vs 1.8L. Also, not necessary the 1.5L will be better than the Wish's valvematic. In town maybe, due to smaller displacement, on highways? I doubt so. Plus Wish got more power. So don't see how Sienta is "better".

Sienta is the best seller MPV, no doubt. For its price and category, sure. That's like saying Perodua Axia is better car than God Car, if not will not be the best selling car in Malaysia (silly justification)

The saving grace for Sienta is the power sliding doors. If those are a must have. If not I don't see how its better than the Wish.

Anyway, wishing you safe journey with your new Sienta, I think orange is pretty flashy color.

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post Sep 5 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 5 2016, 02:13 AM)
U can't compare a Made in Japan JDM with a Made in Indonesia ones... yup and furthermore one is 1.8L. How on earth a 1.5L NA can challenge that. But however.. this is a Sienta's thread... where ppl discuss on Sienta,  esp the newly launched model. So ppl would bias towards it....
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We can compare, because its at the same price range. Just that it is different, one is a recon, while one is new with local warranty. The choice is always up to the buyer, because its your money, not mine rclxms.gif But bias should not be riddled with half truths and misleading views. I'm not bias to either the wish or the sienta, I dislike UMW Toyota and the way the Malaysian automotive industry works (AP-cronies), but I like cars.


QUOTE(amdxp @ Sep 5 2016, 11:25 AM)
Not into so much of debate, on Wish vs Sienta.

But in term of safety, I always rate a car with VSC (less airbags) > non-VSC (more airbags)      we need VSC to safe the car from losing control and avoid accident.

And is Wish fitted with VSC ?  No right as it belongs to the older batch of Toyota models.
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Thing is, its not much of a debate. Apart from the price, entirely different car, and one is recon vs one is new with full warranty. Many people will choose the new car with warranty -- a logical choice. Plus someone else asked about it, so just dropping my view with some facts.

We're talking about the 2009 onwards Toyota Wish, not the model sold by UMW Toyota.
Wish is fitted with VSC. It also comes with a 7 speed super CVT for fuel economy. I think the Wish looks quite handsome, but alas, no power sliding doors. Personally I'd prefer power sliding doors for MPV, cause the whole idea of MPV is to haul people around right? Stop in front of the school, power door opens and your kids go off, and you can close the doors automatically from the driver's seat. Macam Vellfire.
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post Sep 5 2016, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 5 2016, 11:59 AM)
the very reason im getting the Sienta...
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And I can't argue with that logic nod.gif Sienta looks funky, better than the loaf of bread called Freed...imo

QUOTE(mockv1per @ Sep 5 2016, 12:17 PM)
if it comes with sliding doors, its called van  whistling.gif

vellfire = premium van  rolleyes.gif
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Its okay. I would love to be chauffeured in a Vellfire, and step out like a boss.


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post Sep 5 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Sep 5 2016, 02:02 PM)
Both well said...

Last weekend survey around tyt wish 2002. Not interested on X the spec (empty car Feel).
Was qouted full spec rm115K + 5.6K (reg & Insurance) = Rm120600. Not so worry abt warranty issue.

My dilemma here on choosing which should I buy. Personally i like Wish which the look and feel more elegance than Sienta. Sienta give me the feel like vios/city class or normal.

But my wife, kids and i were very tempted to Sienta sliding doors, meter got LCD menu and the recording AVR or gadget etc... Basically Sienta package give me less headache to addon accesories like AVR, tinting n etc...

Wish price to me is rm120600k + (1.5k Tinting) + 2k (Coating) + 3.5K (Carplay player+roofmonitor) + 3K (no. plate) + Rm700(AVR) = Rm131300
Sienta price rm98900 (after Discount) + 600 (Tinting double layer black) + 2K(coating) + 3.5K (Carplay player+rmonitor) + 3K (no Plate) =rm108000

Price different around rm23300 to me. Need to Loan 30K for 3yrs.

If i buy wish i need to lower my weekend spending and not much holiday trips for at least 3yrs. Kids n wife might not enjoy the lifestyles. After 3yrs only can enjoy lifestyles.

If buy Sienta, everything will remain same. No need installment. Monthly got xtra rm900++ saving from buying wish. Can stuck in many enrichment program for the kids. Downside is low engine CC and engine noise when floor pedal to cut lane which a bit stress to me.

Should i go for Sienta and wait another 10-12yrs round to buy a higher CC elengance car.
If were you, honestly which you prefer base on my situation...
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1. RM115k a bit expensive. You should shop around and go see more cars. After all you're buying a car, not a pair of jeans or a bag of apples.
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Wish+1+8S+AeroS...11-47926720.htm

The ad might be fishing/fake. But there are MANY sellers for recon wish. Berlambak when i drive past car dealers.

2. Don't bother with the coating, seriously. and why do you need to spend rm3k on the no. plate?! omg. instead of coating, 5 years down the road, you can spend 3k and spray the whole car with new paint and colour.

3. With the Wish, go drive Uber, hahaha. I think it will qualify for Uber Black. Make extra side income. I saw the Drive for Uber banner on LYN.


QUOTE(amdxp @ Sep 5 2016, 02:44 PM)
I am not sure about the current model Wish , X spec or S spec.  But as I am in Estima FB group, I know all Estima, even manufactured in 2015 do not have VSC.  UNLESS the first owner in Japan picked that option when he/she buys the car there.  So, I would say 99.5% of Estima on our soil do not have VSC.  I thought the same is hapenning on WISH as well since Estima is one level higher than a Wish.

I once looked at Wish when I wanted to change my wife's Alza.  But sat in one, and did not feel that the cars offer signifcantly more cabin space, as the larger size only seen in larger boot plus lower car height compromised the headroom at 3rd row.  And my children are growing fast now that they hit >1.6m now, when I drive the MPV with oldies the 2 kids are going to be demoted to 3rd row.  So, at the end go for a Estima.  bangwall.gif 

To me a proper MPV must have sliding doors, to save space on opening doors, and easy ingress.  Must have proper headroom and leg room to accomodate a normal Malaysian adult 1.7 m at 3rd row.  Not much selection with that. 

Actually I tested Sienta 3rd row, with 2nd row push to front the knee space is still tight for me who is only 1.68,  hmm.gif
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You are right, VSC is option in Japan. Malaysia AP very smart, most of the ones I see have VSC. I agree with you, proper MPV should have power doors. But the Sienta is a bit too small overall for my preferences. I'd need one of the mid size ones like the Nissan Serena -- but its also a deathtrap, only 2 air bags.

QUOTE(amdxp @ Sep 5 2016, 02:48 PM)
Both should not suffer from bad resale value anyway.
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Perks of the Toyota logo upfront.

QUOTE(kluseng @ Sep 5 2016, 03:28 PM)
Whichever car you get just forget about the 2K coating + 3.5K carplay + 3K no. plate. That's 8.5K saved. If are in the position of money no object, fine but until then use your money for better things.
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Agreed on this. Very sound. Those are nice to have, not necessity. Can buy that down the road if necessary. No.plate... you're not our Royal Highness of Johor... and 3K plate won't make you VIP if its on a Wish or Sienta. WWW1 on a Satria Neo, now that's like a boss.

QUOTE(creep @ Sep 5 2016, 03:45 PM)
2012 not 2002 rite? Just survey a little bit more u can get better price ...last year i bought wish 1.8s monotone (2012) with sunroof for RM113k only ...:I'm interested in sienta also but after me n wife went to do the roadshow we both agreed sienta quite small just like alza
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How does it compare to your Wish? The Sienta. Since you're an owner.
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post Sep 5 2016, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(creep @ Sep 5 2016, 06:06 PM)
I didn't test drive it so not fair to give review ...got turned off by the size .... My fellow Wish club member already tested it and decided to keep his Wish instead ...my Wish never gave me prob although no warranty
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Well Toyota reliability is not a joke. Ok maybe it's a joke around here but Toyota owners will always have the last laugh.
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post Sep 5 2016, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 5 2016, 08:16 PM)
To be fair, not all wish got 8 airbags. Not all sienta got 3 airbags. It depend where u buy or spec u get. Singapore, brunei, indon or msia, all different spec. Some wish sold in msia only got just 2 airbags.

In term of FC, based on toyota website Sienta will give better L/km. In term engine, it may look like wish more powerful. But due to weight, wish 0-100kmh will take around 11-12 seconds just like new sienta. Both cars cant run below 10seconds.

Tech that I mean is that led lighting, push start button, all electronic system which already standard in 2016 cars. However current toyota wish design for 2009 market. Of couse it lack of details compare to sienta. Details that I mean cooling box,  grip area, all holes for bottles etc which improvement base on feedback from current mpv including wish.
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Sorry yea. I only talking about context of Malaysia. Wish got 8 airbags. If buyer sotong buy 2 airbags, that's buyer problem and choice. Sienta only got 3. No choice. No need talk about other places when comparing wish recon and Sienta by UMW, irrelevant to this topic.

Tech? LED lighting? Wish got HID Xenon, not the newest on the block but still way brighter than halogens. Push start button? Wish has it since 2009 silly. Cooled box? Wish also got. So what rooster you talking? Stop spewing false information. And stop saying 2016 car vs 2009 car. Newer doesn't always mean better, especially when it's of a lower range.

The good thing (and bad thing) about Wish, is that it's recon from Japan, so there are options. Which means, you buy what you want. Don't need cool box? Choose one without and nego the price!

Sienta? I rather give up cool box and get 6 more airbags. But UMW smart. Give you rubbish feature and cut the most important (and costly) feature.

Maybe you should stop misleading people here if you don't know.

And for the rest of the guys. Sienta is good for what it is. Just 3 airbags... Like the Nissan Serena... Only 2... Not the car problem... It's our country problem.
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post Sep 6 2016, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 5 2016, 10:46 PM)
Bi-Led a bit newer tech than hid. Rear sienta led a bit newer tech than wish- myvi alike led. Sienta push start button also already improve tech from 09/10 wish which got recall about it. Sienta cool box is standard feature. There are alot details improvement by toyota compare to wish. Hill start assist also standard in Sienta. Braking distance during rain also better in Sienta.

I am not telling wish is not good car, it still good. There is a reason why some news say it replace wish in market.
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So Myvi 2005 got tech also compare Wish 2009? Cause Myvi got LED tail lamp.

Woah! Didn't realize Myvi was ahead of its time, can match with 2015 Sienta with LED lamps.
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QUOTE(jonn zee @ Sep 6 2016, 02:52 AM)
I guess the competition of whose e-penor is the longest still ain't finish eh lads...
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It will never end... Cause stupidity knows no boundaries. I'm just bored, need some amusement.

Wonder who bought it and got it.

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