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 All new Toyota Sienta, Surprising package

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Ginny88
post Jul 26 2016, 10:11 PM

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When the 3rd row seats are up there seems to be zero boot space from the photos. How is this car better than an Avanza? At least Avanza has some boot space behind the 3rd row seats. This makes a lot of difference in practical use, the difference being whether you can carry 7 people on holiday or only 5.

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post Jul 27 2016, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 27 2016, 12:31 AM)
Also the Sienta will have more space with the 3rd row folded away.
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When you buy a MPV space is a premium, not driving dynamics or body construction. When you fold away the 3rd row seat for luggage the Sienta becomes no better than a sedan car with carrying capacity for 5 people. The space behind the 3rd row seat for the Avanza looks small but really helps when you have 7 people going for overnight trips. I know because I own an Avanza and I've taken it for many such trips. So think carefully before you pay a higher price for gadgets and gizmos and some safety features but less functionality as an MPV.
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post Jul 27 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 27 2016, 04:54 PM)
Not everyone always travels with 7 people and luggage (and if you do, the Avanza is still a bit small for that). It's mostly a 5 seater that can also act as 7 seater if necessary. Won't suit every need, but some needs it will suit better than the Avanza.

Also the Sienta is much better than the Avanza if you have elderly passengers. Putting a wheel chair inside is easier, cause the boot lip is lower. Sliding doors mean a wide opening for the 2nd row, and you can stand there to assist the elderly person. With a regular door, there is no space for someone to stand there in order to assist. Entrance is also possible in a tighter spot, where you can't fully open the door. The lower floor means the elderly person doesn't have to climb into the car. Just let him sit on the seat, then the assisting person can lift his legs and rotate the person. Inside he is.

To me it is the better car. Plus it drives more like a car.


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There is some space for luggage. The Avanza looks a bit bigger, but the difference isn't big. And once you travel with 6 passengers, you have a lot more boot space in the Sienta. You can completely fold away the Sienta seat, while the Avanza still has a huge seat taking away lots of space in the cabin.

Once you need to bring along bigger items, the Avanza has completely lost, and sedans can't compete either.

We have a Kangoo, and were able to transport 5 adults and a big massage chair (plus a bit of luggage) with it. But we had to remove the 3rd row seats for that. In the Sienta when folded away the 3rd row seats don't take up any space. It's brilliant.
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So it does have some space behind the back seat after all. That wasn't obvious from the other photos. It's alright then. biggrin.gif

But for the price why not Innova? It has even more space and a good 2.0L engine.

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post Jul 28 2016, 09:41 AM

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For a saving of RM30K Avanza is still a pretty good option. You don't buy an MPV for driving dynamics and the Sienta has only one extra airbag.

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post Aug 15 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(calk @ Aug 15 2016, 11:37 AM)
Great! Got a bro with same situation as me.. my car will turn 10 years by this year end.. also not rushing to change but just feel car is for convenient and lately just change the alternator(think cause by little flood) with toyota and repaint the whole car few years back also.. initially not thinking of changing but few months back air cond not cold being fool by stupid toyota technician saying this and that spoiled but at the end just a little plastic cap which they didn't install it back since my Feb car service with them.. so this make me feel like changing the car but now the car still rock as usual.. so thinking whether or not to hold on to take the new car until end of this year as I had booked it since end last month. blush.gif
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Avanza is a really tough car. Mine is 11 years already and still going strong with minimal maintenance. I don't see any point to change at the moment, maybe when it reach 15 years.

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post Aug 15 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Aug 15 2016, 11:49 AM)
maybe because its design for asia n also the rear wheel drive is better at hauling people. because its push not pull like front wheel drive..
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Also simple design with not so much electronics. A real no nonsense work horse which just keeps going.

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post Sep 3 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Sep 2 2016, 04:38 PM)
I test drive alrady. I would said not bad at all.
Pros
-Comfort level is good n quiet if normal slow pedal drive...
-Power 1.5L is acceptable easily reach up 80-100kmh (SA, me, wife n 2 kids)
-Quite impress the 3row seat leg room. 
-Optiron lcd meter quite nice..
-sliding doors
-Not bumpy like Avanza
-rear blower
-3 airbag acceptable for the price range. (Serena only get 2 airbag)

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Any car can easily reach up to 80-100 km/h. Its how fast you take to get there.

In terms of power I think will be comparable to an Avanza 1.5.

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post Sep 10 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Sep 9 2016, 08:39 PM)
yes, i knew. then whats the extra point you want to hint me ? please share ... thank you.
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Here's a hint from me. If you want Toyota reliability but don't want to pay the price of a Sienta get the Avanza 1.5

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post Sep 23 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 23 2016, 07:31 PM)
My new car has it, and I can let the display show me the oil temperature too (which is different from the other meter, and quite valuable to know).

Not having a proper meter is irresponsible, and they do it just to save a few cent. Bad for reliability if you don't know when the engine is not yet warm, and leaving it on in idle barely helps warming up the engine... you need to drive to warm it up, but you need to drive a certain way to do it without damaging it.
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It's the new trend so deal with it. My Mazda 3 Skyactiv doesn't have a temp meter as well. When it is cold the temp indicator lights up as blue. When it warms up the indicator disappears. When it overheats it should light up as red.

For cars with temp indication you may be interested to know it is a dumbed down indication in order not to worry the owner. As long as the temp is within normal range the needle or figure won't move. It's designed to behave this way. The real temp actually varies depending on the ambient temp and traffic condition. I know because I plugged in an OBDII display. The temp varies from 86C to 96C but its at 88C most of the time during normal traffic.

Instead of this dumbed down temp display what's wrong with removing it? There is still an indication that the engine is cold. If things overheat up you get an alarm.

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