If you don't go any bigger say CX8 or Korean models with bigger engines, those are your SUV options plus the newly launched X90.

Whats your current drive?

Personally I try to have cars of different age. Example
If A is above 10 years, then B hopefully below 5 years.
Easier to plan disposal before they hit 20 years.

Since your City is already 17 years old, won't recommend you get another unit above 10 years.

If your budget below 100K, can test drive & consider
Alza - same engine, gearbox, chassis as Vios with bigger space, longer wheelbase for high speed stability. Cheaper price. 5 yr warranty while you focus on old City repairs.

Waiting time 9-12 months, ouch.

For who, purpose, distance, route, expertise talking to mechanic, location etc

Avoid - accident and flooded cars, modified engines, sambung bayar..

For 20K probably any Myvi or Vios in Carsome, Mytukar are taken up by dealers before they appear for sale. So you can only see eg 2014 Saga or Viva

Car dealers, https://www.mudah.my/2014+Perodua+MYVI+1+3+...+-100241892.htm But.. Likely the usual modified mileage and extra processing fee demanded.

Vios likely go back to year 2007/8 might be found after some careful search.

No head no tail..

City getting a new facelift soon.
Do specify you want the new model when booking
but expect some price increase.

Whats the distance travelled for your daily JB-SGP drive.
Why C-segment sedan preferred?

How did you calculate such a wide 100-180K budget?

Suggest you test drive the new Serena, Zenix, Staria and revisit your requirements as they may change later.

Eg. Petrol, Hybrid, Diesel..

165K new Innova Zenix might be worth a test drive with its new comfortable platform instead of going the used vehicle route which requires additional maintenance budget.

Will let others comment on the used vehicles eg Carnival but
agree with you the Alphard Vellfire van really too big to manoeuvre at close to 5Meters.

Any luck in your search for the used Civic? What about FB group?
Whats the reason you target this model?

Which old car why NCD 0% why tell us LOL

After two decades of Waja, suggest a new car.

Do consider test drive X50. Its classy, powerful & comfortable if you're not too worried about fuel consumption.

Saga
Bezza
Aruz

Suggest to modify the template below

Brand	Any
Budget	<RMxxK
New/Used	Any
Specs	Any
Transmission	Manual
Body Type	SUV or MPV
Usage	Family balik kampong monthly
Remarks

Here are your choices for new sedan

<60K
Saga
Persona
Bezza

70-100K
Almera
City
Vios

How many have you test drive? Can share your impressions here.
post #6403, Alza is still my choice for single driver.

Out of curiosity, how much budget did your friend suggested you set aside to maintain a used 4yr old C-segment 1.6 ton 17"rim tyred SUV that avg 10km per liter of fuel?

Especially when warranty runs out a year later.

Was heading a department in a financial co, my boss one day told me no longer acceptable ride bike to office. Convinced him am not in a customer facing or consultancy position and will borrow his car if ever taking clients out for lunch LOL

However if you still need to help maintain an image for your co, then agreed a D segment japanese make should be considered in lieu of a continental one (not sure why this perception still prevalent with their horrific quality nowdays)

If possible, this should be separate from your family vehicle to ferry your very young kids around which perhaps your wife can take charge of. Something smaller than Vellfire Alphard you were considering as they're just too.. damn hugh.

Reliability should be higher priority over looks if you depending on primary car for work and outstation travel. Hence perhaps a new car might be a better choice rather than one past 5 years

Within 63K budget can test drive new
Saga, Persona (Sedan)
Ativa (SUV) Alza (MPV)

For new SUVs
Only can check out Mazda models.
No EVs too eg Atto3 unless can charge daily.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Aug 25 2023, 11:00 PM

Hmmm, you should ask this in Mazda forums.
Just my limited opinion below since the last Mazda I owned was a 323.

Took another neighbour CX5 2.5 to PD a couple of times, felt there wasn't significant increase in performance between the 2.0 models. Maybe 1 sec faster from start in city? But these are SUVs you don't race in them so for most of the time it felt almost the same as my cousins 2.0 unit in terms of handling and highway comfort. So you have to decide if the extra 12K, higher roadtax, 19" wheels etc is worth it.

Another consideration is the very old CX5 platforms, so if space is not a priority, the slightly smaller newer CX30 is an option (from my one only test drive) with more modern outlook and interior stuff like extra airbag to 7, sunroof, paddle shifters, bigger infotainment, auto highbeam blah blah. Do test drive.

Lastly, if im travelling 200KM daily presumably highways, I would be looking at Mazda 3 sedan instead. Smooth as silk. Sat in the rear a few times KL-JB yes slightly tight but still comfortable (if you have > 1 regular passenger)

If can afford 165K,
New Zenix