ingatkan mau car......

the avanza sort of fit in right there then~ (fully loaded the 1.3 will bring a whole new meaning to the term sluggish)
an apv will set you back around that amount too....


kantoi cars that should be considered
- if u can stomach a fatter engine, you can have an unser with spare cash to pay that slightly higher road tax for many years

alamak 2km je daily....... hmmm.... bicycle? (honest suggestion )

if you ask me, only thing about axia is that its not the best car around for long distance driving....

for town driving, it's a brilliant little thing. (pocket wise)

other relatively newish options are:
1)almost new, used p1 cars
2)OR the inkambing p1 cars...
3)bezza (no real point if space isn't something you're after)

only wana comment on the pics....
-make sure that stain is due to some spillage or something, not something horrible like a flood (to be fair, a flooded car would be stained everywhere else as well)
-scratched like that, well... its a used car, you will see many more of that if you really go through the car with a fine toothed comb~

hmm just gona throw in a few options~~

1)forte
-decent car all round but.... there are others

2)inspira
+larger, more powerful and being a mitsu, its jepunis so > reliability
-barely fits your budget
-more expensive to maintain than the preve for sure
-less safety features than a preve

3)sylphy
+very damned comfortable, its to me the most comfortable car in its segment that you can get for that kind of money
-costs more than a preve to maintain
-aint powerful (if you ask me at least)
-prefacelift models had issues with the gb

4)alza
+well its large, economical, whats more to say?
-minimalistic safety features

5)new persona/saga
+new stuff, you get latest tech
-new stuff, means its unproven new stuff
-you got to wait
-costs more than this

as for the preve... i would not touch anything which does not have the cfe.... the cps's are depressing. Thats my only opinion of it. The cfe models are what i would call decent, pretty decent features all round, only the lackluster built quality BUT it is acceptable given its pricetag. the engine (cfe) is alright i guess, just enough power and the fc while isnt great in town, is also not horrible. on the safety side, its great.

technically you can also afford to buy some other even nicer cars! but i do not think you want to maintain them
- focus
- 308

zenix will tell you all about the latio or you can roll back a few pages and read all about them

oh hoho cant really comment cause me poorfeg, dont know much about these other than: these are very luxurious machines you have selected here.... all pretty good cars, reliability and comfort wise... if theres a downside to this selection, it would be with the engines. these 'smaller' cc ones just have enough ooomph to push that fully loaded fat heavy body around (not that its much of a problem since the 'small' engines are still decent)

they aint cheap so i think you should go and view and test drive all 3 before you come up with a decision..... end of the day it must appeal to you

*iirc, they came with a gazillion options and various trims, so yeah have to do some homework there or look out for the items you specifically want

technically speaking... its never worth it to sell a car.. you always lose. Its a buyers market, many sellers few buyers (yours is around 20 so loans might be urm..... for buyers)

early 06 (less uncle-like, xv40 camry) and late batch 06 (more uncle-like, xv30 camry) were 2 diferent camries iirc, not sure which camry you own~ also theres the 2.4 and 2.0
you can check mudah for the prices, xv30's are around 30+k while the xv40's are around 50+k

your budget is severely limited, not that many choices to narrow down to.... since theres not much to pick from in the first place.... im sure a few pop up in your mind.... what cars are you considering atm?

only thing i will note is that 'PETROL EFFICIENT' is not something you can get at this price tag...

have you checked out what you can get for 5k?

anyway even an old car will work if maintained properly, My own car is 21 years old, no major issues, just need to replace wear and tear parts . So whether it works or not, depends on the condition of the vehicle. Whether u want to raise your budget solely depends on you, what you want/accept in a car kekekeke

ngv camry.... back then (10 years ago maybe) it was considered to be a quite complex. ngv = more heat, not very nais to drive..... hope fully the guy's system can be optimized (configure ecu settings) for both petrol and gas modes otherwise its going to be absolute crap for one of the modes (have experience driving an ngv corona and satria (dont ask why a satria was fitted with ngv lol)

topmark is one of the more reputable guys... but in general if the salesman says A, you check if A is indeed true, if he says B, check and double check to see if B is true

let me put it this way, if the sales man says something make sure its true, dont take his word just like that, end of the day all they want is for you to drive one of their cars away...... I myself will make it a point to try prove him wrong even if i like the car.

may i ask why these cars in particular?..... they are not cheap to maintain

perdana
i own a car with a sort of similar engine. the maintenance costs are on the higher side and and its a real pain in the arse to work with... (not enough space + in my case, changing one thing requires removing a plethora of other things) its a v6, more engine oil required (not a big issue), 6 sparkies, 6 injectors, 6 pistons i think you shoul notice a trend here.... pretty much most items cost alittle more than what you find on other mitsu's (non performance models ofc)... also, the gearbox on the perdana is a known sore point. some say adding a gearbox cooler helps but its one of those things that commonly goes wrong (
just some things you should consider before getting one


207...
basically, would not touch thats it.

recon cars... well u dont know whats been tampered with and you dont know whats it been used for, thats the nature of recon cars. There is nothing holding you back from getting one IF you can pretty much guaranty its been taken care of. Where to service? anywhere! frankly speaking, if you join and talk to the ownerclubs of said models, they ALWAYS have a place they can recommend to you (more often than not, these guys are so well versed in the model, they are better than the sc)

ahh....

fun to drive does not mean it needs to be silly fast yes?
i know of a few decent ones....

civic-r (fn/fd)
-easy to maintain, pretty decent cars, parts and upgrades are very easy to source, parts are not really that expensive (given its a car of this caliber)
-very fast on track (if thats your thing)

subaru sti (GH)
-around that age, costs abit more in general but you can find some just over 100k if you search hard enough
-very powerful and pretty reliable
-heavy on the maintenance (heavy duty parts, quite price)

crz
-not a powerful car for sure BUT its pretty decent, handling is on the better side
-seems to turn heads
-on the cheaper side to maintain (its pretty much a normal car setup to look and feel sporty which has a hybrid system)

mx5 (2010 models are around this price)
-a really nice car, fun to drive
-parts are soursable, not impossible to maintain (though some parts you might need to order from japan iirc, a forumer owns one, he will know better)

Suzuki Swift Sport ZC32S
-personally,i feel this car is way overstated. handles great im sure but.... i dont know...
*note that I have never been in one but my friends 'cheap' 30-40k almost stock car car made mince meat of it round Sepang, could be a fake bodykit-ed car, could be a bad driver (dun cucuk me any owners of this car do not mean any harm)
-maintenance is reasonable though

Peugeot 208 GTi
-love the looks of this thing, its fancy inside and out
-do not trust Peugeot as far as reliability goes (best join an owners club and ask them about this)

audi tt

hoho just saw this.... wana make something very clear for you, there is NO such thing as a cheap to maintain performance car....

fd2r isnt very thirsty nor is it loud if left in stock condition. (Its only loud when you floor it to the redline but that's normal) fd2r will need ron97 but thats no dif from the swift, it too is designed to run on premium fuel. its very harsh yes, but not much worse than a sss.... that thing (sss) is also pretty much ready to track machine

not sure what range you are talking about, but im going to assume, the top spec model

1)price wise, thats a reasonable offer BUT keep reading

2)what i think about it? nothing much, its really an empty car. Only thing going for it is its decent fuel economy

3)part one of why i think its not great. its a small 3 cylinder which isnt really refined nor is it powerful. As with most fuel sipping cars, its not great in the handling department, its like a tiny sampan. Also, its looks offends me

4)part two of why i think its not great, NEW competition.
Now we have the bezza, new persona and new saga (facelift, body lift, botox and plastic surgery everywhere). Yes unfortunately, all local cars. I feel that these cars are better options. they are newer, better safety, similar or better features (dollar for dollar), are completely new (latest tech + new car smell + warranty + almost 0 wear and tear, all win), these newer competitors being 'local' makes will cost less to maintain in general.
*admittedly the beza does offend me as much as the attrage but since it looks like its going to be common on the road we should get used to its extremely tiny/skinny tires and sky high bumm soon*

my few sens

Actually the later models past the v7 dont really rumble anymore.... Ahh heck long as u like it and can afford it, by all means go ahead!

If the idea is to get a low cost runabout car, thats not exactly the best choice..... Best would be to go for a cheap local car.... Maintanance/running costs are much lower

kembara is also a poor choice.... with that kind of budget... you should be looking for those easy to maintain very common cars....

with a 5k budget
wira, saga, satria (if u dont really need to carry people) and the other tiny models

with a 10k budget
your options widen to include the kenari, gen 2, waja... i can go on and on
if you want a non local, seg

seg is an old toyota corolla. prety decent thing but its old so finding one in good condition isnt as common nowadays.

ohh yeah... best to find a later model proton (2000 and onwards) but IF you do look for an older proton (pre 2000) check for rust especially on the roof. its very common on protons back then.
*highly recommend you look for a manual car though..... easier to jaga, less headaches in event crap does happen


short shifter, can install (but... trust me Kosumaledoko depending on how short the throw is, the novelty can wear out daily after driving a while. Shorter the throw is, the stiffer it is.....)

hehe most 'performance' oriented cars are meant to be obnoxiously loud, difficult/harsh to drive (not so with the newer ones), . Like you say, he will probably like a sporty car better.

i think he is looking for anything round 5 years old or newer that fits his budget.