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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V16 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW PASCAL KING GTX1080 out now

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post Jul 8 2016, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 8 2016, 01:32 AM)
but if the price RM 1789 then as everybody said, go for cheapest GTX 1070 whistling.gif
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Everyone has their tolerance level and how much they can "overclock" their wallets hehehehehe. tongue.gif

Some can only overclock level 1060 price only. some can "squeeze" extra "overclock" for GTX1070 like you suggested. laugh.gif
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post Jul 8 2016, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(mulder_sam @ Jul 8 2016, 01:22 AM)
Meanwhile 1060 announced, how about this?

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 8 2016, 01:25 AM)
That's a good price for GTX980Ti.



According to the video, before nVidia released GTX1070, nVidia mentioned GTX1070 was Titan X performance card.
In actual, it is faster than Titan X.
nVidia claimed GTX1060 is GTX980 card. Well, there is a possibility it can beat GTX980.

If this card is indeed a GTX980 performance card, with 20% overclock headroom, it could beat AMD Fury X @ 1080p.
And it could be very close to GTX980Ti.  drool.gif
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So, it's a very interesting product. We keep our fingers crossed. Keep dreaming and drooling.

InB4 tabuli ini machiam. nVidia locks 9 the overclock-ability of this card. Then it's KNN.  laugh.gif
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I think if it's faster than 980 then already good, now need to see what's the price. Last time X60 card float around 1K but now not sure.

QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 8 2016, 01:32 AM)
but if the price RM 1789 then as everybody said, go for cheapest GTX 1070 whistling.gif
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But cheapest 1070 is how much, I think it's similar to 980ti or slightly better ?

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post Jul 8 2016, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jul 8 2016, 06:18 AM)
But cheapest 1070 is how much, I think it's similar to 980ti or slightly better ?
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Historically, IINM, newer generation GTX x60 cards could never beat a previous generation GTX x80 cards. If 1060 could consistently beat a 980 in most games, that would be a surprise.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 8 2016, 08:16 AM)
Historically, IINM, newer generation GTX x60 cards could never beat a previous generation GTX x80 cards. If 1060 could consistently beat a 980 in most games, that would be a surprise.
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IIRC, previous generations of x60 cards usually come with very little ram and 128bit memory interface. This time it's 192 and with a lot more rams so it probably is as they claimed.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 7 2016, 09:37 PM)
http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/tech-news-n...dition-official
http://www.lowyat.net/2016/109080/nvidia-g...around-rm-1000/

2016 already and people still never learn, still want to convert the announced SRP for upcoming graphics card to MYR with exchange rate.

Dream on guys, it doesn't work that way. I has never been direct conversion since the 1990s and it won't be even now.

Your best bet to avoid disappointment is to multiply it by 5.2.
SRP x exchange rate x 1.3 (add 30%, at a bare minimum).
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Why so sad, I remembered last time our pricing was quite close to USD MRSP. Why now so much difference?
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post Jul 8 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 8 2016, 08:16 AM)
Historically, IINM, newer generation GTX x60 cards could never beat a previous generation GTX x80 cards. If 1060 could consistently beat a 980 in most games, that would be a surprise.
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From the GTX1080 and GTX1070 reviews, it seems that Pascal with GPUBoost 3.0 will clocks higher than its rated boost clock, running at 1780 to 1800MHz most of the time.

GTX980 TFLops = 2048 x 1216 x 2 = 4.98 TFlops
GTX970 TFlops = 1664 x 1178 x 2 = 3.92 TFlops
GTX1060 TFlops = 1280 x 1800 x 2 = 4.6 TFlops (very similar to GTX980 perf)

Overclocked:-
GTX980 = 2048 x 1450 x 2 = 5.94 TFlops (close to GTX980Ti, stock)
GTX970 = 1664 x 1450 x 2 = 4.83 TFlops (close to GTX980, stock)
GTX1060 = 1280 x 2050 x 2 = 5.25 TFlops

Using the TFlops comparison, this is IMO quite accurate indicator on how GP104 and GP106 will perform based on Maxwell. It is after all very similar layout. GP100's layout is somewhat different from GP104.

GTX1070 = 1920 x 1800 x 2 = 6.92 TFlops
GTX 980Ti = 2816 x 1075 x 2 = 6.05 TFlops
GTX TitanX = 3072 x 1075 x 2 = 6.60 TFlops

Hence, GTX1070 is faster than TitanX. But what happens when overclocked?

GTX1070 = 1920 x 2050 x 2 = 7.87 TFlops (only 14% increase)
GTX980Ti = 2816 x 1450 x 2 = 8.17 TFlops (35% increase flex.gif )

GTX980Ti once overclocked, will be faster, a bit smile.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 08:38 AM)
IIRC, previous generations of x60 cards usually come with very little ram and 128bit memory interface. This time it's 192 and with a lot more rams so it probably is as they claimed.
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My biggest surprise on 1060 are RAM capacity rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 8 2016, 08:38 AM)
IIRC, previous generations of x60 cards usually come with very little ram and 128bit memory interface. This time it's 192 and with a lot more rams so it probably is as they claimed.
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I think most predict the performance at the level of 970 OC'ed. Even at that level, it is still a damn good performance for a GTX x60 relative to previous gen x80. smile.gif
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Ayam sad, couldn't play on this weekend because supplier still holiday and I can only get my 1070 on Monday

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Ref 980ti 1599 zotac clearance sale.. Rip 1060 at malaysia
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QUOTE(SecrET_of_RainBOw @ Jul 8 2016, 11:59 AM)
Ref 980ti 1599 zotac clearance sale.. Rip 1060 at malaysia
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It's a clearance sale. How many 980Ti you think they have until no more stock? It'll be RIP 980Ti once stock finish.
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heyya guy..can msi gtx980 4g gaming beat 2k and 4k resolution?
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QUOTE(primaroti @ Jul 8 2016, 12:17 PM)
heyya guy..can msi gtx980 4g gaming beat 2k and 4k resolution?
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Google la. SMH http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_g..._review,16.html
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 8 2016, 12:19 PM)
my bad..sorry just asking sad.gif
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double post. And already at right place. Confused, thought I was at the AMD section. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jul 8 2016, 09:14 AM)
From the GTX1080 and GTX1070 reviews, it seems that Pascal with GPUBoost 3.0 will clocks higher than its rated boost clock, running at 1780 to 1800MHz most of the time.

GTX980 TFLops = 2048 x 1216 x 2 = 4.98 TFlops
GTX970 TFlops = 1664 x 1178 x 2 = 3.92 TFlops
GTX1060 TFlops = 1280 x 1800 x 2 = 4.6 TFlops (very similar to GTX980 perf)

Overclocked:-
GTX980 = 2048 x 1450 x 2 = 5.94 TFlops (close to GTX980Ti, stock)
GTX970 = 1664 x 1450 x 2 = 4.83 TFlops (close to GTX980, stock)
GTX1060 = 1280 x 2050 x 2  = 5.25 TFlops

Using the TFlops comparison, this is IMO quite accurate indicator on how GP104 and GP106 will perform based on Maxwell. It is after all very similar layout. GP100's layout is somewhat different from GP104.

GTX1070 = 1920 x 1800 x 2 = 6.92 TFlops
GTX 980Ti = 2816 x 1075 x 2 = 6.05 TFlops
GTX TitanX = 3072 x 1075 x 2 = 6.60 TFlops

Hence, GTX1070 is faster than TitanX. But what happens when overclocked?

GTX1070 = 1920 x 2050 x 2 = 7.87 TFlops (only 14% increase)
GTX980Ti = 2816 x 1450 x 2 = 8.17 TFlops (35% increase  flex.gif )

GTX980Ti once overclocked, will be faster, a bit smile.gif
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Yeah, 980Ti is still a great card especially now when the card is selling at a great discount. However, if I were to choose between 1070 and 980Ti, I'd probably go for 1070 due to lower wattage and more ram unless the price difference is great i.e. much cheaper 980Ti.
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At reference 980Ti for RM1599, even the RX480 feels inadequate at RM1299. While stocks last though, which almost always means less than 10 units available.
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QUOTE(primaroti @ Jul 8 2016, 12:17 PM)
heyya guy..can msi gtx980 4g gaming beat 2k and 4k resolution?
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2K can, 4K a bit tough. Have to dial down the settings
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jul 8 2016, 12:30 PM)
double post. And already at right place. Confused, thought I was at the AMD section. tongue.gif
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Because the discussion is almost same. I also get mixed up. There's another thread in Hardware section where we repeat the same arguments.

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