Probably the best value for FPS/Ringgit

If it's RM1300 then AMD will have to lower RX480's price

Yeah I think the no-SLi on this is not an issue.

Yeah that's a good RM400 right there

But I really doubt the gtx1060 is gonna be rm1300. Maybe the 3GB one.

The USD199 rx480 is the 4GB version though. RM1300 is 8GB, I think it's retailing around USD240.

But yeah I think that's a good way to roughly estimate the price over here.

Is the USD250 gtx1060 3GB version or 6?

Very nice backplate

So what's the difference between the 249 and 299 versions?

Can't blame them though since their earlier FEs actually sell. So why not for this too when people are gonna get it anyway

What do you actually get from FE anyway?

I think it's a bit pointless to go SLI on a card like this. If you can afford 2 of these, why not just one 1070?

Runs hotter, probably draws more power, driver limited and you'll only get maybe 60% more inconsistent performance?

I'd keep the 2nd card's money, sell the current one, add both monies and get a 1070

IIRC, previous generations of x60 cards usually come with very little ram and 128bit memory interface. This time it's 192 and with a lot more rams so it probably is as they claimed.

Ouch, latest drivers not working for your 780?

Wah, the RX480 is much faster than the 1060 in Ashes. I guess it's expected if the game utilizes a lot of actual asynchronous compute.

This post has been edited by khelben: Jul 10 2016, 09:31 PM

AMD's current philosophy is, in my opinion, a little "neither here nor there" for PC gaming. Their GCN is very compute-optimized, good for parallel workloads (probably why they make good mining cards?) but in PC gaming, most games are not designed that way. And nVidia is architectured how PC games are designed hence they are a lot more efficient, especially since AMD would need to have more transistors to have the same output. Perhaps that is why AMD's power efficiency is no where near like nVidia's.

But console game developers do use Asynch compute to make their games run more efficient (all consoles have AMD GPUs) so AMD make chips that support it. And I am guessing that AMD wants to save cost in not redesigning a whole new architecture for the PC gaming market but adopt a lot of their stuff from their console chip. AMD after all have way lesser R&D money compared to nVidia.

DX11 as far as I know doesn't have asynchronous compute support and AMD have been pushing Microsoft to come up with an updated API that does. A bit too long so AMD made Mantle (later gave it Khronos and renamed it to Vulkan). And then microsoft went "okay okay we have DX12 now"

So when game developers actually use asynch compute (DX12) in their games, AMD cards perform really well. Like Hitman, Quantum Break, Total War: Warhammer, and Ashes. In guru3d's review, RX480 actually runs faster than GTX980 in those games. Rise of the Tomb Raider is an exception, read somewhere that they only apply pseudo dx12 stuff, gotta read up on that more.

So yeah it really depends on game developers but for the current market and probably at least the next 2 years, nVidia > AMD.

It'll be interesting to see how the new cards from both camps run on Vulkan.

Are they old? Because AMD = Gaming is actually quite true in the early to mid 2000s K7 to K10 perform better in games, better than their Pentium 4 counter part. All the way to Athlon 64 X2 - Prescott days.

Tables were turned when Intel unveiled their Conroe.

From the leaks, in Ashes dx12, RX480 edges 1060 only just a little bit. I think nVidia's asynch emulation has a lot of merit.

Haha I think the reason why Yottabyte said that is because AMD cards 2-3 generations old (7000 and 200 series) are having up to 30% boost in an update just few days ago.

IMO it's not because AMD has very good support for older cards, but more like their old cards were design for an API like Dx12 and Vulkan. A little too ahead of their time for their own good.

Wow that's only rm200ish more than your intended card. How did you get that price.

Looking at the rumoured local prices for the gtx1060, I'm fairly certain it performs quite a bit better than rx480 in both dx11 and dx12