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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.13, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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nexona88
post Jul 9 2016, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Jul 9 2016, 12:57 PM)
I see. Thanks for the head up.  smile.gif
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that's why I said faster go "lock-up" the rate before BNM meeting next week sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2016, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 9 2016, 12:35 PM)
Still 4.4 loses out to 4.5.  tongue.gif
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If u lock-in RM200k with Al Rajhi @ 4.40% n reinvest upfront int @ 3.70%, the returns from Al Rajhi is slightly higher than Affin
Having said tat, need to consider logistics issue unless both Al Rajhi n Affin is side-by-side

This post has been edited by wil-i-am: Jul 9 2016, 01:54 PM
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post Jul 9 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Jul 9 2016, 12:57 PM)
I see. Thanks for the head up.  smile.gif
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I had spoken to bank managers before on whether they had actually revised down and their thinking and practice. One of the older managers admitted that they had actually done lowering in the past, but after customer blowback, they intend to stick to the promised rate. One reaction to counter the negative effects was to print the promised total amount due at maturity on the FD certificate.
However, best working practices and promises are not cast in stone as some new manager or top management (new broom) can change this or any other SOP due to their disregard/ignorance of past events, their shortsightedness or being influenced/advised to do something.

This post has been edited by Deal Hunter: Jul 9 2016, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 9 2016, 09:57 AM)
Wow bnm is expected to lower the rate..
So guys faster go 'Lock' your FD...
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mbb GIA will be affected?
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post Jul 9 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Jul 9 2016, 01:38 PM)
mbb GIA will be affected?
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Maybe as d current rate of 4% is attractive
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 9 2016, 01:42 PM)
Maybe as d current rate of 4% is attractive
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good to hear if they can maintain it @ 4%
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post Jul 9 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 9 2016, 01:00 PM)
that's why I said faster go "lock-up" the rate before BNM meeting next week  sweat.gif
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I thought it may only happen somewhere in Sept 16 ?
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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jul 9 2016, 01:56 PM)
I thought it may only happen somewhere in Sept 16 ?
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There is a meeting in Jul
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post Jul 9 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jul 9 2016, 01:56 PM)
I thought it may only happen somewhere in Sept 16 ?
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http://www.bnm.gov.my/?ch=mone&pg=mone_mpc&lang=en
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post Jul 9 2016, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jul 9 2016, 01:56 PM)
I thought it may only happen somewhere in Sept 16 ?
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FYI, Friday 16 September 2016 is a public holiday - Malaysia Day.
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post Jul 9 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(stevotan @ Jul 9 2016, 12:18 PM)
sorry guys newbie here,
just to share what I been advise from a PRO FD investor.

was told if you have large amount of excessive money and not good on share market. The ways to make some additional CASH from bank is through FD.

This PRO had about few millions in FD. He share with me how he make the money grow in FD. Earlier was heavy lost on unreliable share market and he is not good on it. So he workout a better and guarantee return investment.

the formula what he told me as below:

presume the FB interest is 1 month 3.25% and compare 3 month 3.30%.

month amount interest rate        total
1        10,000.00  3.25% 27.08  10,027.08
2        10,027.08  3.25% 27.16  10,054.24
3        10,054.24  3.25% 27.23  10,081.47
   
   
   
month amount interest rate        total
3        10,000.00  3.30% 27.50  10,027.50
Most of the banker will approach you by offer you a higher interest for longer period such as 3 months onward.
But when you work out as formula above, actually if you put in 1 month FD you could earn better. (if you put the interest add in, auto renew).
And additional benefit for short term is you could withdraw any time when u require without loosing half of the interest profit. Let say tight up 6months or 12 months, and emergency need CASH.

This PRO although he is CASH cow, he still prefer split his MONEY is several FD. (he told me about 100 over piece FD document).
If any bank have special promotion you can withdrawn ASAP and reinvest even within same company BANK.
Just my humble sharing, if any above is inaccurate please ignore.
apologies for in convenient cause.
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Can ask your sifu for a formula to
Calculate daily compounding for me
Pls? smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 9 2016, 03:11 PM)
FYI, Friday 16 September 2016 is a public holiday - Malaysia Day.
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Oh, I means Sep 2016.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(VinceCheong @ Jul 9 2016, 03:18 PM)
Can ask your sifu for a formula to
Calculate daily compounding for me
Pls? smile.gif smile.gif
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Long ago, could make good money from daily REPO and then later from short term deposits instead of FD. The calculations were never quite daily compounding due to the public holidays and week ends. Some banks could handle at big branch, but some are troublesome as have to go to/thru their money market/treasury place at HQ or elsewhere.

The two thing that throws off daily compounding calculations is the rounding method of the particular bank and the days per year used. The error is only at most below 1 sen per day in the worst case where truncation (any extra digits after the sen is disregarded) is used instead of normal rounding to nearest sen (half sen off). You need to test this out with your bank to see how their system actually handles.

The 365/366 multiple method is not applicable for interest add on to principal compounding as the new principal increases daily.

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Jul 9 2016, 03:45 PM)
Oh, I means Sep 2016.... biggrin.gif
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precisely it's on 07 Sep 2016 (Wednesday) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 9 2016, 03:45 PM)
Long ago, could make good money from daily REPO and then later from short term deposits instead of FD. The calculations were never quite daily compounding  due to the public holidays and week ends. Some banks could handle at big branch, but some are troublesome as have to go to their money market/treasury place at HQ or elsewhere.

The two thing that throws off daily compunding calculations is the rounding method of the particular bank and the days per year used. The 365/366 method does not work for interest add on to principal compounding as the new principal increases daily.
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REPO int is calculated on daily basis n not compounded
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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 9 2016, 04:45 PM)
Long ago, could make good money from daily REPO and then later from short term deposits instead of FD. The calculations were never quite daily compounding  due to the public holidays and week ends. Some banks could handle at big branch, but some are troublesome as have to go to/thru their money market/treasury place at HQ or elsewhere.

The two thing that throws off daily compounding calculations is the rounding method of the particular bank and the days per year used. The error is only at most below 1 sen per day in the worst case where truncation (any extra digits after the sen is disregarded) is used instead of normal rounding to nearest sen (half sen off). You need to test this out with your bank to see how their system actually handles.

The 365/366 multiple method is not applicable for interest add on to principal compounding as the new principal increases daily.
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Come to think of it, I've actually never thought of approaching them to know how they calculate the interests and compound them. I just use the rough monthly
Compounding method on excel lol. It's always getting numbers higher than what in get from the banks hahaha must be the holidays and weekends lol!!!

QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 9 2016, 05:01 PM)
Just get MBB's online FD and call it the day, simple and no need to headache. Invest in their GIA that giving 4%.
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Well idk what a headaches people get? But I'm happy with my 4.2% at CIMB. Lol tongue.gif

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post Jul 9 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 9 2016, 01:24 PM)
If u lock-in RM200k with Al Rajhi @ 4.40% n reinvest upfront int @ 3.70%, the returns from Al Rajhi is slightly higher than Affin
Having said tat, need to consider logistics issue unless both Al Rajhi n Affin is side-by-side
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Wow.. really good calculation. notworthy.gif

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post Jul 9 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 9 2016, 04:01 PM)
Just get MBB's online FD and call it the day, simple and no need to headache. Invest in their GIA that giving 4%.
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Gud vehicle to park extra funds for short term
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post Jul 9 2016, 05:54 PM

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I went to KFH yesterday.
12 months - 4.35%
6 months - 4.25%

Interest will be credited in 2 working days.
It needs to open a saving account as when the FD mature, it will automatically transferred to the saving account (Which is good for me as I don't need to go withdraw from branch, instead I can just do online transfer. The max daily transfer limit is stated as 30k). If not mistaken it will charge RM15 for the debit card and there is no ATM card anymore (not sure when will it charge as it is not reflected yet).
Currently the bank is giving 10% rebate on first swipe of the debit card with maximum rebate of RM20 (So advice to put RM250 in the saving account).

Last, there is free gift for early bird, which is very limited, for minimum deposit of 50k. It is a RM300 preloaded touch and go card. It seems like I was the first that went to the branch to ask about it, so the lady called to their main branch to ask.

They also offered to put the interest back into the FD with the same rate of 4.35.

In conclusion, 50k deposit (4.35% + 300)
without free gift, the effective rate = 4.539% (Put the interest back to the FD)
with free gift, the effective rate = 5.139%


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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 9 2016, 04:01 PM)
Just get MBB's online FD and call it the day, simple and no need to headache. Invest in their GIA that giving 4%.
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very good place to park for short term cool2.gif

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