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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.13, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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tomry
post Jul 5 2016, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 4 2016, 07:48 PM)
thanks, first SCB told me cannot, i am too late she said. due date 8.7.16  she tried anyway to submit request.
will wait and see if can IBFT 50k out Fr Sat Sun to MBB GIA
are you sure?, i got 4.38% still today at BR.
i  am surprised if ada bank give that loophole.
if ada senang lo.
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just went to bank rakyat branch myself , placed the FD with 4.38 % for 12 months with min fresh fund of rm 5k
( promo end on 31/7/16)

i asked them why i call the customer service center only say have 4.1% , they claim the customer service is not updated bruce.gif

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1) parker pen
2) diary
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post Jul 5 2016, 02:13 PM

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Just a quick update, running to airport. Going to be back in a week's time.

Yesterday went to Affin to place the 4.5% 12 mths. Lots of people (mainly Chinese !) there ! Confirmed that it is still limited to selected branch. So Penang island just the Light Street and Bayan Baru branch. Quota 500 mil.

Hopefully next week still available when I am back !

Good luck and next week hopefully can get better promo ! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 5 2016, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jul 5 2016, 02:13 PM)
Just a quick update, running to airport. Going to be back in a week's time.

Yesterday went to Affin to place the 4.5% 12 mths. Lots of people (mainly Chinese !) there ! Confirmed that it is still limited to selected branch. So Penang island just the Light Street and Bayan Baru branch. Quota 500 mil.

Hopefully next week still available when I am back !

Good luck and next week hopefully can get better promo !  biggrin.gif
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Hopefully got Merdeka promo come right after this..... tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 2 2016, 08:20 AM)
looking forward to 5% p.a. within 2016. yippee!!!
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It can only happen if most people withdraw and place with the bank with the top FD rate only. The other banks will then see loss of funds and react to replenish their cash flow. Just imagine what will happen if everybody goes to Affin Bank only.
Unfortunately, many people are kinda tied to their bank due to loans, overdraft facilities, credit card, share investment, insurance and all sorts of funds.
It is not the OPR that matters but the cashflow position and whether the bank has enuf to make enuf profit to survive. rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 5 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 5 2016, 05:58 PM)
It can only happen if most people withdraw and place with the bank with the top FD rate only. The other banks will then see loss of funds and react to replenish their cash flow. Just imagine what will happen if everybody goes to Affin Bank only.
Unfortunately, many people are kinda tied to their bank due to loans, overdraft facilities, credit card, share investment, insurance and all sorts of funds.
It is not the OPR that matters but the cashflow position and whether the bank has enuf to make enuf profit to survive. rolleyes.gif
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It won't.

If every deposit flock to Bank A.
Bank A will have too much cash, which prompt bank A to stop the FD promotion and back to board rate rate already.

While Bank B, C, D who suffer flee of deposit due to Bank A better FD promotion, may go to interbank to borrow from bank A for short term cash needed.
This is how interbank lending works between them to mitigate temporarily lack of cashflow.

It is the total LDR that matter the most.





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post Jul 5 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(tomry @ Jul 5 2016, 01:59 PM)
just went to bank rakyat branch myself , placed the FD with 4.38 % for 12 months with min fresh fund of rm 5k
( promo end on 31/7/16)

i asked them why i call the customer service center only say have 4.1% , they claim the customer service is not updated  bruce.gif

got free gift
1) parker pen
2) diary
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The bank staff is right. Some banks do not have their FD promos on their webpage and customer service at call center will usually just refer to their webpage. Some bank staff also do the same thing.
Banks usually seem to have some sort of problem getting their websites up-to-date probably because of the CANGGIH problem in marketing websites. That means style ada, beautiful and got navigation and also disturb other webpages by squeezing in besides getting the programming done. They also have some problem with their bank info display screens as an extra job.
Usually, bank staff need to refer to their briefing, memo from HQ, make hand notes. Some will interpret the memo and make their own version first and make distributable flyers before the canggih flyer is made available from HQ. cry.gif icon_question.gif rclxub.gif sweat.gif doh.gif

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post Jul 5 2016, 07:01 PM

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Exclusive RinggitPlus Free Dyson Fan With RHB Premier Banking

4th July 2016 and be available until 3rd October 2016

2.1. All customers who register for the campaign at the Organiser's website,
ringgitplus.com, for a qualifying RHB Current & Saving Account product (“RHB CASA”)
and subsequently opens an RHB CASA at an RHB Branch with a minimum deposit of
RM200,000 (two hundred thousand Ringgit) and a minimum CASA hold period of 6 months;

T&C https://media.ringgitplus.com/creatives/b7a...-conditions.pdf


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post Jul 5 2016, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 5 2016, 06:11 PM)
It won't.

If every deposit flock to Bank A.
Bank A will have too much cash, which prompt bank A to stop the FD promotion and back to board rate rate already.

While Bank B, C, D who suffer flee of deposit due to Bank A better FD promotion, may go to interbank to borrow from bank A for short term cash needed.
This is how interbank lending works between them to mitigate temporarily lack of cashflow.

It is the total LDR that matter the most.
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If we follow this reasoning, no need for any bank to offer a higher rate or try to outbid each other. Anyway, how long can a bank do interbank without jeopardising their position. Short term OK, long term can or not?

Once a customer flees, there is a great danger that having tasted the sugar, will never come back. Maintenance of Customer Base is critical.

When Bank A stops on reaching their target - why got question of too much cash? This was what the bank feel they need after all.Then there will be a next top deal or the number 2 best deal becomes the FD to go to. The effect is to squeeze those who are less competitive - no promo, low promo rates. whistling.gif Thus, it is not so short term as one promo effect.

But I agree that Loan Deposit Ratio is most important but not Total. A bank will probably have a dim view of an average.

The other aspect is that if a bank has more funds, it can lend more and make more taxable profit for government. It is up to the bank whether it will raise or lower their profit ratio depending on their loan segments.

Presently there is a plateau because most banks already comfortable after the last round of competition except for Affin, Bangkok Bank.

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post Jul 5 2016, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(poor man @ Jul 5 2016, 07:01 PM)
Exclusive RinggitPlus Free Dyson Fan With RHB Premier Banking

RHB CASA at an RHB Branch with a minimum deposit of
RM200,000 (two hundred thousand Ringgit) and a minimum CASA hold period of 6 months;

T&C https://media.ringgitplus.com/creatives/b7a...-conditions.pdf
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The best RHB casa makes you 2.75%p.a, generic 6 months promo FD makes you +-4.15%p.a.

with RM200k capital, RHB MaxCash acc makes you RM 2750 in 6 month; while 6 month promo FD makes RM4150.

Therefore, you are forgoing RM1400 for a cool fan, it better worth it.
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QUOTE(tomry @ Jul 5 2016, 01:59 PM)
just went to bank rakyat branch myself , placed the FD with 4.38 % for 12 months with min fresh fund of rm 5k
( promo end on 31/7/16)

i asked them why i call the customer service center only say have 4.1% , they claim the customer service is not updated  bruce.gif

got free gift
1) parker pen
2) diary
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In my few years of fd placing, i never got even 1 gift, dun say a pen..

Why like this one ?

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Do u guys ask for it ? Or they sendiri giv to you?

I once ask at hlb main branch.. they told me, u ad got promo rate, you want free gift somemore ???

Then i say.... oo nevermind, asking only..


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post Jul 5 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(tomry @ Jul 5 2016, 01:59 PM)
just went to bank rakyat branch myself , placed the FD with 4.38 % for 12 months with min fresh fund of rm 5k
( promo end on 31/7/16)

i asked them why i call the customer service center only say have 4.1% , they claim the customer service is not updated  bruce.gif

got free gift
1) parker pen
2) diary
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can share u deposit x0k give free gift??
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post Jul 5 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Jul 5 2016, 08:13 PM)
The best RHB casa makes you 2.75%p.a, generic 6 months promo FD makes you +-4.15%p.a.

with RM200k capital, RHB MaxCash acc makes you RM 2750 in 6 month; while 6 month promo FD makes RM4150.

Therefore, you are forgoing RM1400 for a cool fan, it better worth it.
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When offer gifts, usually just marketing attraction, not seriously bank need money yet. Some customers just view gifts as extra rubbish clogging up house, so no laku.
FYI, I dropped in at Maybank to ask about their present Premier Mudarabah Account (monthly interest) rate - which being islamic moves about. The staff says 2.8% up from 2.68% previously.
For the bottom FD promo and board FD rates, I prefer the effective rate +1.5% and + 1% respectively.
At present I use the MBB PMA to transfer in monthly interests and matured FD till reach the required amount and time before using IBG or PMA cheque to place. If got extra days then place at eGIA-i at 4%.

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 5 2016, 08:30 PM)
In my few years of fd placing, i never got even 1 gift, dun say a pen..

Why like this one ?

sad.gif

Do u guys ask for it ? Or they sendiri giv to you?

I once ask at hlb main branch.. they told me, u ad got promo rate, you want free gift somemore ???

Then i say.... oo nevermind, asking only..
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Can take their free sweets at HL console.gif counter
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post Jul 5 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jul 5 2016, 01:06 PM)
Online forums can't go into too much detail, it's not a suitable medium. Hence why we need to link to resources for further reading. Otherwise you spend dunno how long typing, but it will disappear in a day or two. Not to mention wasting other forumers time (especially reading on small phone screens).
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Good points. Thanks for the explanation. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 6 2016, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jul 5 2016, 02:13 PM)
Just a quick update, running to airport. Going to be back in a week's time.

Yesterday went to Affin to place the 4.5% 12 mths. Lots of people (mainly Chinese !) there ! Confirmed that it is still limited to selected branch. So Penang island just the Light Street and Bayan Baru branch. Quota 500 mil.

Hopefully next week still available when I am back !

Good luck and next week hopefully can get better promo !  biggrin.gif
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Good luck i am off holiday too tomorrow rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 5 2016, 08:30 PM)
In my few years of fd placing, i never got even 1 gift, dun say a pen..

Why like this one ?

sad.gif

Do u guys ask for it ? Or they sendiri giv to you?

I once ask at hlb main branch.. they told me, u ad got promo rate, you want free gift somemore ???

Then i say.... oo nevermind, asking only..
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go to bank rakyat next time and you'll get gifts for deposit >100k

gifts also depend some >300k , some > 1 million

and also, different branch different gifts
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jul 5 2016, 02:13 PM)
Just a quick update, running to airport. Going to be back in a week's time.

Yesterday went to Affin to place the 4.5% 12 mths. Lots of people (mainly Chinese !) there ! Confirmed that it is still limited to selected branch. So Penang island just the Light Street and Bayan Baru branch. Quota 500 mil.

Hopefully next week still available when I am back !

Good luck and next week hopefully can get better promo !  biggrin.gif
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Wish u gud luck
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Another promo from Al Rajhi Bank which is not tat attractive


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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jul 5 2016, 11:24 AM)
The question of why cannot do IBG/IBFT for FD or anything else is a common complaint from those not experienced or fully complying with details in the rules. It is only after getting explanation and really understanding the implied and unwritten meanings, learning from the mistakes and solutions in Frequently Asked Questions, reading customer complaints, you really know what your situation is and what to do, that you will succeed. It is really not that simple and even the IBG/IBFT thread does not cover every trip-up or solution.
Usually failures occur because of extraordinary situations not written-up in detail or misinterpretation of the manual and snappy brief instruction which will work for the normal case. If you want the answer in 1 or 3 sentences - most likely failure becuz already unable to comprehend many unspoken implications not said. If you go to a bank and wait, you can always see bank staff explaining but later the customer comes back to say cannot do. Then some bank staff will go and help. In some cases, the bank staff are also defeated by the bank's computer system and they reset and even after more problems, change ATM card, or give up (refer to HQ and never comeback).

For high worth individuals, the major problems are:-
1) unfamiiliarity - seldom do and no sad experiences to learn from
2) disregard of the rules - think anything also can as if the computer cares a hoot and unwillingness/inability to learn and comply
3) high minimum amount must be maintained for their high value account but forgot to take this into consideration with transfer charges and gst to cover the ADEQUACY RULE.
4) their account/s are not clean and stand alone - meaning they have compromised their ability such as taken up  TAGGED FD products or funds where a certain high percentage or absolute amount is locked in CASA. The problem begins when the staff says can withdraw or transfer (meaning in general normal case) and you did so OTC, but the system remembers the condition and says NO later - inadequate/rejected. Things get confusing when you take up a number of tagged products including FD, as the ADEQUATE AMOUNT changes.
For some cases, it is a TIMING problem, which is usually worsen by charges and gst. Some banks are notorious for their high charges and sticky rules. This usually involves cheque clearance and overdraft, time clash with standard instructions for autosweep between current and savings account, autopay for loans, to others like wife and children in foreign currency studying overseas, credit card, annual fees such as ATM card, current account, bank deposit box charges and a whole bunch of charges. This is particularly difficult for those who have high penalty and interest charges for credit card late payments.
Some high worth accounts have peculiar rules to attract their customers which can clash. This all falls under one sentence in ADEQUACY RULES. Specific Terms and Conditions applicable to each account and situation on top of  general IBG/IBFT rules.
5) In the worst case, the account may have some sort of unremoved  block because of former complaint to bank of unauthorised transfer or to avoid some mistake or ATM card loss.
6) Use of account that cannot be used as not yet fully activated or already dormant but still showing in computer system - but cannot do anything.
7) Each account limit change and IBG/IBFT transfer needs its own TAC authorisation - you cannot change all of them with one TAC authorisation by SMS or if you mixed up the TACs received.
8) Do not confuse the poor servers and yourself by doing all at one login session. It can take some time.
9) For those who do more than one transfer per account, they face the DECREASING ADEQUACY PROBLEM due to IBG/IBFT charges and gst. That means usually cannot do the last transfer.
10) Not quite the same in ATM, due to peculiar rules about usage frequencies, free and charged access/transactions per month etc applicable specifically to the account or bank in question. It can get pretty bad.

One sentence reply - Maybe make a mistake. There are all sorts of reasons for failure, some easily understood and solved but some even the bank and HQ are at a loss due to their system. Please understand that this can get very complicated and depends on the individual to understand the status of his accounts and the bank and account peculiar conditions and terms of use. Most people do not read the terms and conditions fully, instructions, FAQ, and feedback. And even if they do, the language may be beyond their language ability. The implications (not in your favour) may not be fully spelt out. Or find it hard to believe which conflicting report not realizing the different unique undisclosed or changed time situations that make each different. Anyway failure is expected and normal initially, so no big deal. Otherwise no need to go to school, manuals, training, feedback  or have customer help.

Good luck, hope you will succeed. nod.gif If you already compromised your accounts, there is nothing much that can be done.
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Ridiculous to waste whole lot of time reading rubbish excuses.

not a single excuse there sounds reasonable or explains why i cant transfer out more than RM30k a day
from my many accounts with CIMBclick. Dont forget we are talking about doing that with 1 login ID.

not enough balance la, unfamiliar la, my account compromised la, wrong TAC la, money stuck to UT la
all rubbish!

you cannot transfer more becos system set the limit, 1 account max 30k,u got 100 accounts
in 1 LOGIN also same 30k.

more irritating is the rubbish excuse that people left insufficient fund for the transfer fees,
you mean people transfer till the account is empty, thats why cannot transfer out more than
RM30k a day?



QUOTE(aromachong @ Jul 5 2016, 01:39 PM)
I have no problems of your wall of text as long as it's expository.

This is a public forum and we have no curtailment of 'wall of text' here as far as i concern, so keep it up!
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you have alot of problems ...not getting it even repeatedly said.




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