I had this problem with gout. It started end of last year.
And I had seen so many doctors and 2 specialist in sunway medical.
No cure for my gout. They even injected my big toe with steriod. Still the problem came back after 2 months.

And I started searching the Internet for alternative. And I found this BAKING SODA can be a cure.
I bought a pure baking soda. Brand arm and hammer. And I started to drink with max dosage for a day. On the second day. I started to feel better.. And I kept on drinking for 2 weeks and I can say I can walk like usual now. No more pain and swollen toe.

Thanks God I found this and I hope I can help someone with this problem.

watch your diet please.
if can reduce protein in your meal .

Betul ka ni TS?
Ini gout jgn main² tau, silap makan boleh mati leyy, it happened to my late uncle ooo

I watched my diet too.. But the problem came back.
I think allopurinol. Cochicine and the anti-inflammatory are more harmful

1/2 a teaspoon diluted in water. Max 4 teaspoon a day. After wake up and before sleep is most important

Thank you mang, appreciate it.

Welcome.
Please use the measuring teaspoon they use for baking. Not the teaspoon you use to drink coffee.

I hope I can help more ppl

This post has been edited by elmolee: May 29 2016, 10:08 PM

where to buy this baking soda? how much cost?

Any baking soda or is there any specific baking soda.

Any one as long as it contain sodium bicarbonate.Too much can cause you to go into alkolosis.

Arm and hammer brand. Pure baking soda. I think this is the best

I got from Jaya grocer. Less than rm 20 for a small box of arm and hammer baking soda

thanks a lot man

Reduce red meat, beer (alcohol) and vegetables high in purine.

The steroids injection is to reduce the inflamation and to remove the build up of crystals formed by the high amounts of uric acid.

Of course keeping hydrated and/or maintaining a healthy lifestyle will help tremendously.

Source: I have gout - last attack (or pain) was more than a year ago

Parking. Thanks TS for sharing.

Bro..
I tried dieting too.. But the gout came back. I think everyone is different.
Now I can even dare to eat more meat, fast food and coffee too. Basically I'm eating like what I used to eat.

Actually I was about to gave up and go for alluporinol before this baking soda alternative.
Thank God it works

This post has been edited by elmolee: May 30 2016, 08:49 AM

Stopped my gout after taking Celery 7000 pills supplement from Blackmores.
Last attack more than 2 years ago.

This post has been edited by Xccess: Jun 5 2016, 11:36 AM

A lot of controversy around this.

First, statistics say the gout will go away without treatment, in 7-14 days. Often no more attacks within 1-2 years.

So, anything taken before next attack years away looks like it is a miracle cure. Might really be good, but don't know.

On the other hand, allopurinol needs to be taken daily for years, and 80% patients fail to do so, so when an attack comes, they say allopurinol useless.

Extreme diets impossible to maintain for most people. Claimed that only animal proteins cause problem. Vegetables high in purine do not.

Baking soda can be dangerous because of high sodium just like spoons of salt. Neutralizing stomach acid destroys food safety barrier and reduces extraction of nutrients. Useless because the body has rapid re-balancing mechanisms if you try to change pH of blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O6GhVCvVgE (They look like ..... but just listen!)

So much more research and evidence needed. Proceed with caution.

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Aug 27 2016, 06:57 PM

Do you have them both in the same joint? Does one medication take care of both?

Actonel good for you? Some problems reported: http://www.drugs.com/comments/risedronate/actonel.html

It is amazing to just Google "actonel gout" and scan the titles without going to them!

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 16 2016, 09:28 PM

parking. thnx TS.

Well.. I still think baking soda has the less side effects. Now I'm drinking once a month. And I'm eating as usual. I'm glad that I didn't follow doctor advice for the alluporinol.

Hi. Do you suffer from gout too? Did you know how much we gout patients suffer from medications? I felt like sh*t even before the alluporinol med.
I'm just helping you guys here and I dun earn a single cent.

Few months ago, I thought it was a fractured toe, since I bumped it. Long after it healed, suddenly swollen hot again without any obvious reason. After several days, found out most gout starts near big toe and is hot and inflamed whereas arthritis is cool. Colchicine traditional med, 2 tabs to be taken immediately then tapered off. Already late, so I took only one tab and next day all was fine, stopped and for a month so far, no more problems. I will not do allopuinol or weird diets.

When I bought it, only 20 sen per tab but allopurinol 75 sen to be taken daily long term We are lucky because in other countries colchicine is usually 10 X the price due to drug company rip-offs

Wow.. You are lucky coz your cochicine can control your gout. I took cochicine and didn't work. Luckily I found my cure too.

I was amazed when I read that gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT! Possibility of a false, placebo effect even with tap water. Anyone trying long-term baking soda, please monitor your stomach acid, intestinal bacteria, sodium levels, blood pressure, etc. Wish you all the best of health!

I have suffered from gout for like 12 years now. Last year found a traditional/alternative herbs. No gout for like 1 year. But now it seems that I am immune to the herbs and gout keep coming back. Tried the baking soda treatment before. Didn't worked much for me. Was under allupurional at 300mg dose per day. Never missed taking the medicine for about half a year. But stop since uric acid reading never go below 400, and swelling non-stop through out the period I took allupurinol.

Now I try to control my diet by reducing protein and taking olive oil and applying ozonated olive oil where normally I got gout. It helps to reduce the pain.

Only those who suffers gout can understand another gouter (?) suffering..

Does this condition comes at a certain age as some bodily function get older and you lose the normal PH balance your body automatically provides and we all have to help our bodies balance the PH by taking supplements?

What causes the condition?

Hi.
For how long did you try the baking soda? Full dosage from the beginning?
I understand how you feel..

The high reading of uric acid makes most people think due to excessive protein intake. Drinking soda is like neutralizing the uric acid but this is not really cure. It is just like the water is too sweet and you just add water. Yes, it will be less sweet but the amount of sugar you consume is still the same if you drink the whole solution

Gout sufferer has high uric acid accumulation at joint. The traditional cure by kampung people and orang asli is to take a handful of daun ketapang* (the one that has fallen to the ground) and boil it. You can save it in a bottle and drink a glass of it every morning. This might be because the water soaked with daun ketapang can naturalized water.

You would be surprised if I tell you the high uric acid reading is caused by something like soft drink you are drinking. There is complicated link between uric acid and fructose (the sweetener used in almost all drink nowadays which is in form of corn syrup). When fructose is broken down into glucose, the by-product is uric acid.

So, if you like to drink all these drink like Coke, Pepsi, or any canned drink, try to stop or reduce. See if this helps. The same goes to people who has kidney stone problem. Kidney stone is not only formed by crystallized calcium, but it can be also caused by crystallized uric acid.

* Pokok Ketapang -- Terminalia catappa

I used to get pretty painful gout attacks due an unhealthy lifestyle. Just loved those red meats and alcohol.

I haven't had any attacks since I started exercising (mainly running) a few years ago, and I don't take any medication. Well, there was one attack in the beginning of the year, but that was probably due an injury interrupting my workout for more than 4 months.

No idea if my uric acid is lower than before, but I don't get those excruciating joint pains anymore.

@mareno and @Richard

Yes, as an effect of aging, the body begins to break down more of its own protein (notice skin and hair of elderly) and that is ultimately a big source of uric acid. So it is not clear whether reduction of protein in the diet will change anything.

Please worth for me to repeat, experts saying "gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT and not return for 1-2 years" so beware miracle cures, even allopurinol etc. from doctors.

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 21 2016, 04:20 PM

Hi all, my bro got gout about 3 year now..i observe him from taking medication like ponstan and other pill i dont know what, doesnt really help,, whenever we had a seafood dinner he really prepare like drinking a lot of water and recently i think he consume Apple Cider Vinegar a spoon before and after seafood dinner..i ask him when last time he a gout attack he said its been a year since he consume apple cider vinegar no more problem, problem apple cider vinegar taste so bad .

Do you know why so many hospital and doctor still exists in this century?
Because it works.

If baking soda helps to reduce the gout or cure it, then you should get the Nobel prize in medicine research or being recognize in the medicine industry.

Same thing apply to any miracle alternative they claim can cure cancer.

What ever. I dun earn anything from helping you guys here. And if you not a gout sufferer I think you dun know what we have been tru.
If you think alluporinol or other med is a cure.. You better do more research.

I'm happy to know that Apple cider vinegar works for your brother. I tried that but it didn't work.
It taste nasty but you can try to hold your breath while drinking. Thats what I did 😁😁

accidental duplicate

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 22 2016, 07:27 PM

Good for you! Just wondering, have you stopped eating any red meat or drinking alcohol, for how long? What did you do to ease the first attacks?

For many years before and even during my gout I have been, still doing weights, cardio, yoga. So perhaps it helps lessen the problem. Since the first attack a year ago I have been eating and drinking all the forbidden stuff DAILY but only one recurrence two months ago which one tablet of colchicine for 20 sen cleared up, and back to eating and drinking as always.

Said repeatedly, "gout can subside in 3-7 days WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT and not return for 1-2 years"

So my latest miracle cure: one deep breath before getting out of bed.

PS: I took the colchicine on the 4th day, so it might not be a miracle either.

This post has been edited by oneeleven: Sep 22 2016, 06:07 PM

hmmm good for you TS

good to know that this forum still has people who are willing to share and help instead of just asking and get help.

U have good stuff here.. Yes, gout can be freaking bad shit.. So whoever don't get it better don't talk about hospitals and medicines!

I went to multiple specialist but all goes to no use.. They just know how to rip off without caring ur previously used medicine as well as what u using now...

Baking soda is need to be taken at minimum dose... Need to watch out ur pressure as well... Alternatively can use lemon and baking soda to neutralize the pH...

HI
How did you cure your gout? Mind to share?

no idea on curing... but best is to reduce weight gradually and take more natural antioxidant.. such as pineapple, green apple.. etc

diet and exercise is crucial to prevent the attack

I have gout also and colchicine is better solution for first treatment of high level uric acid (to broke down the crystal first). after cirit birit, start allopurinol and anti inflammatory until pee is no longer look like liquid glass sparkle when light touch it

work everytime but after than start jaga makan lah

All these will do is just neutralize it.

If you really want to get rid of the uric acid in your body, change your way of lifestyle, eat right with a slight indulge during weekends and start going to the gym or run on the field, lower down your weight.

Try to sweat as much as possible as sweating does release some uric acid, google it up. Take a few layers of shirt and run with it. Get all the sweat out and drink as much plain water to flush out all the uric acid.

Back in 2014 i had my 1st gout attack which lasted for 4 weeks which made me immobile, the reading was off the chart as i have taken/consume to much whey protein for my body, i started doing my cardio and lower my protein intake everything is fine now.

Not all protein sources are the same.
The key point is to reduce purine intake. Different source of protein have different level of purine.
Egg white has zero. Milk and milk derived( like whey) have low purine.
Red meat and seafood typically have high purine content.
Certain beans have high purine too.

My homemade cure.

2 table spoon of organic apple cider vinegar mixed with one tablespoon of honey.

Drink everyday.

i will try it out ...

I think everyone is different. Stick to a remedy and see whether it works ot not.
For me. I tried so many remedies and diet. All failed. Only baking soda for mr

Hey bro, how was your gout condition now??

Hi.
So far so good. Hardly drink any baking soda because no gout attack so fat. Touch wood 😂.
I only drink when I feel like the gout is coming to attack.
You having attack now?

Cut all the refined sugar & get real food less preservative

As refined sugar metabolized in the liver and increase purine thus uric acid.

In gout, Most uric acid came from body producing and not from particular meat.

Watch out your sugar intake & do exercise

It will help you from being drug dependent

avoid red meat too ..

Excellent tip!

Lots of people find magnesium chloride in the form of magnesium oil and magnesium flakes (available from Health Lane Pharmacies) can be super effective for four as well.

I found some good FAQs on gout here, in Malaysian context as well:

Protect Yourself and Loved Ones from Gout

But true, I think diet and weight management is the most important when comes to gout - we are what we eat

https://www.facebook.com/LYSmedicine/

try this traditional meds which aim to cure gout and you can stop eating it when you feel not pain.

utmost important: try to take care of diet and stuff consumed daily. you can whatsapp/ call the number for more details .

Using baking soda works but not long term solution because baking soda is a chemical compound. Too much in the long run is harmful to our health. Chemicals are as worst as taking medication

https://goutandyou.com/gout-and-baking-soda/

I test my blood using a uric acid meter to determine if I have been eating too many purines, or if I am close to getting another attack. If the reading comes back high, I cut back on the risky foods. If it is low, then I can relax a little bit and maybe eat a little steak. In the end, it's all about moderation and knowing what your body is doing.

This post has been edited by jane2912: Jul 3 2018, 05:08 AM

Don't suffer from restrictive dieting, wasting time and money. Please go back and read my post #37 (and before that #23 #26) Be sceptical.

Conclusion: Best long term treatment for gout? Take in a breath of fresh air.

My gout CURE recipe:

Cook:
Cabbage Shoot, it's quite small each, some chinese ppl call it Choy Dam (or choi tam?) (2 packs, bought from Jaya Grocer)
Brussels Sprout (maybe 200g or 300g, but just slightly more than the cabbage shoot)
Stir fried Shallots (a big fist full)
The above cooked with mushrooms (forgot what it's called, but Japanese type, not Shitake, not Enoki, square packet packaging, size maybe 5cm x 5cm, i bought 1 x pure white & 1 x brownish, they both come in square packet packaging)

The above is a lot to eat. I cooked the Cabbage Sprout and Brussels Sprout separately with the same ingredients (mushroom, shallots, butter, oil, pepper & salt). I ate 3/4 of it, cant finish cuz there's just too much to eat. I also added some bacon (500g) for extra taste, but i ate very sparingly on the bacon.

1 x Lemon, juiced, added with water in a cup (total combined volume is probably 200 or 300ml)

1 x Kiwi fruit (the hairy, sour ones)

Coriander bunch or cilantro (1packet, maybe 10 grams, cuz think i saw berat kasar as 0.638, but I can't confirm), boil 1 litre water first, put Coriander in boiled water for 30 mins under low heat, drink the 'tea', tastes not great but bearable

10 x fish oil tablet by Blackmores, 1000 mg each, most I ate was 12 tablets previously, so don't worry about OD, eating a whole fat pangasius fish (biggest one you can buy from Mydin) is way more than 10 fish oil tablets, but just make sure the fish oil tabs you buy is properly filtered and mercury free.

So there you go. The above diet cured my gout in 4 hour's time (no noticeable pain detected). I ate it all (3/4 from cooked vege), and drank the 'tea', all in within 1 hour's time.

I hope that my gout cure can cure you too.

P/S: I live to eat and not live to eat. I hunt for the most delicious cuisines that life presents to me. But i do it in moderation to avoid regret and disability. So moderation is the answer. No moderation means impending doom. The choice is yours. Happy eating!

This post has been edited by atamatensai: Jan 7 2019, 02:19 PM

My friends and customers feedback that this health tea improved their conditions on Uric Acid problems.

https://shopee.com.my/Uric-Acid-Health-Tea-...2319.1459781108

https://pictr.com/images/2019/02/09/0vh4DB.png