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post Jan 10 2007, 01:23 AM, updated 17y ago

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As the topic above, I need the correct answer. I can't confirm as some say yes, some say no. Some honest seller say yes, some seller say no.

Any expert out there know the actual answer?

Small walkie-talkie, those 0.5-3 watt. Not those bulky bulky like police officer, security guard house 1...

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post Jan 10 2007, 01:42 AM

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nope.. it doesnt need a license
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post Jan 10 2007, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Jan 10 2007, 01:42 AM)
nope.. it doesnt need a license
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How sure are you?(No offense for your knowledge) Got any source? I don't know where to clarify even using google. blush.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 02:01 AM

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just to share...
i did join some programs and activities that requires walkie talkie...
haven't seen they bringing any license along...
using the small one...which you could bought from many shops like Carrefour,Giant,Teso & etc...not a famous brand sweat.gif
big one like motorola...liked you said police one...haven't tried... shakehead.gif
don't know if this answer you some... cool.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Jan 10 2007, 02:01 AM)
just to share...
i did join some programs and activities that requires walkie talkie...
haven't seen they bringing any license along...
using the small one...which you could bought from many shops like Carrefour,Giant,Teso & etc...not a famous brand sweat.gif
big one like motorola...liked you said police one...haven't tried... shakehead.gif
don't know if this answer you some... cool.gif
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If they require you to show ur license, of coz u can't immediately show. Must report to police station that you have the license.

Like gun, my uncle got the license. But, he didn't bring out the license at all 1 ar.

But I am sure they could have the license of certificate or identity card to prove that they have the license. Example, scuba diver have identity card and certificate

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post Jan 10 2007, 06:07 PM

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Still need answer
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post Jan 10 2007, 06:24 PM

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simple lah why dont you go sit for MARES exam n use it all the time you can even fix radio in your car legally....google for mares..
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post Jan 10 2007, 06:29 PM

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no need license lah.

if need license, they won't be able to sell it easily mah.

simple thinking.
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post Jan 10 2007, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(sniper msia @ Jan 10 2007, 06:29 PM)
no need license lah.

if need license, they won't be able to sell it easily mah.

simple thinking.
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wrong

basic walkie talkie's like 0.5 watters which work on the FRS spectrum dont need license

but most walkie's at 1watt and above transmit power are generally on the GMRS spectrum which needs a license to operate legally
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post Jan 10 2007, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Jan 10 2007, 07:33 PM)
wrong

basic walkie talkie's like 0.5 watters which work on the FRS spectrum dont need license

but most walkie's at 1watt and above transmit power are generally on the GMRS spectrum which needs a license to operate legally
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are those walkies with 1 watt and above easily sold?
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post Jan 10 2007, 10:04 PM

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As long as doesnt touch d marine walkie talkie stuff coz theirs r completely top secret things!!
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:11 AM

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I don't think need license also..Imagine a parent buy walkie talkie for the child 2use..say in the house, don't tell me need license..btw, i didn't see any license for walkie talkie also..no offence yea laugh.gif
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post Jan 11 2007, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Jan 11 2007, 12:11 AM)
I don't think need license also..Imagine a parent buy walkie talkie for the child 2use..say in the house, don't tell me need license..btw, i didn't see any license for walkie talkie also..no offence yea laugh.gif
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There is a license actually. If you are using 5 watt walkie-talkie, you could even try ur luck to get into the police signal.

I wondering without license, what is the penalty?
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post Jan 11 2007, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(sniper msia @ Jan 10 2007, 09:10 PM)
are those walkies with 1 watt and above easily sold?
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most easily available one will be the motorola t5720 . works on FRS and GMRS spectrum

edit : yes the t5720 is 1 watt

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post Jan 11 2007, 08:24 AM

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never knew theres a license needed..
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post Jan 11 2007, 10:06 AM

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i think those over a certain range only need license
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post Jan 11 2007, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(tycheah_7 @ Jan 11 2007, 10:06 AM)
i think those over a certain range only need license
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correct and certain frequency (VHF or UHF)
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post Jan 11 2007, 01:17 PM

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better confirm coz i have 2 at home too...
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QUOTE(Kellyn @ Jan 11 2007, 01:17 PM)
better confirm coz i have 2 at home too...
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I have 8 unit currently being used.
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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Jan 11 2007, 01:20 AM)
There is a license actually. If you are using 5 watt walkie-talkie, you could even try ur luck to get into the police signal.

I wondering without license, what is the penalty?
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oh, sorry then, i dunno need license for walkie talkie..but if is for small kid, i don't think need license also right...can't find the license on the walkie talkie box..
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post Jan 12 2007, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Jan 11 2007, 09:37 PM)
oh, sorry then, i dunno need license for walkie talkie..but if is for small kid, i don't think need license also right...can't find the license on the walkie talkie box..
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Toy walkie-talkie are of course exempted. tongue.gif

Not those license on the walkie-talkie box, it is a license in order to use the walkie talkie, not say 1 2 register mean register, you need to take course and exam in order to get the license.

We are talking license which are similiar to driving license, diving license, etc

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post Jan 12 2007, 01:23 PM

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The only walkie talkie do not need license it's those FRS UHF which the power output must not more than 0.5w. I dont remember the technicallity of the antenna but for sure there is a limitation of certain amount of dB gain. Higher than that you need to apply license from MCMC. But if you interested to jump to hobby like ham radio you can join this thread here.

If you see those taxi with big giant antenna about 1.5 meter usually we call it as 5/8 which propotionally 5/8 of 144Mhz wavelength. These antenna has good dB gain which ranging from 3-6dB which require a proper licensing. They are just waiting for the enforcement to come chasing them.

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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jan 10 2007, 06:24 PM)
simple lah why dont you go sit for MARES exam n use it all the time you can even fix radio in your car legally....google for mares..
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Hope you dont mislead other forummer here. MARES dont run any exam and it doesnt means you can fix the radio in the car legally. Since you already ppl in MARES hope you can ask them for a proper guidance on the licensing.
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QUOTE(bioweapon83 @ Jan 12 2007, 01:23 PM)
The only walkie talkie do not need license it's those FRS UHF which the power output must not more than 0.5w. I dont remember the technicallity of the antenna but for sure there is a limitation of certain amount of dB gain. Higher than that you need to apply license from MCMC. But if you interested to jump to hobby like ham radio you can join this thread here.

If you see those taxi with big giant antenna about 1.5 meter usually we call it as 5/8 which propotionally 5/8 of 144Mhz wavelength. These antenna has good dB gain which ranging from 3-6dB which require a proper licensing. They are just waiting for the enforcement to come chasing them.
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How to know how many watt is the walkie-talkie? Any external device to check without reading the specification?
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post Jan 12 2007, 11:11 PM

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The walkie-talkie should have a datasheet or specification.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 12 2007, 11:11 PM)
The walkie-talkie should have a datasheet or specification.
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I know, but any external devices to check the power output? Don't tell me we need to bring the datasheet along.... sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2007, 12:17 AM

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You can use a spectrum analyzer to measure the transmitted power by the walkie talkie.
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all walkie talkie need licence to operate except those radio using frequencies under citizen band . i cant remember the frequencies.. somewhere around 477.100mhz i think.. google about it pls. other than that frequencies u need license to use the frequencies... as far as i know all walkie talkie in the market does not operate on that 477.100mhz... y not join the HAM / amatuer radio operator... even though license is nedeed... but its more fun... check out marts.org.my for more info on amatuer radio smile.gif

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yep yep license needed,esp if you're gonna go around and hear to other ppl conversation! haha jkjk:D

yeap yeap u need a license icon_rolleyes.gif
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In actual, all "communications equipment" will need to be certified by SIRIM QAS before being allowed to be used in Malaysia.

Communications equipment means any communication network facilities or customer equipment which may include fixed and wireless equipment.

Make sure all your walkies talkies / mobile phone / other radio transmitter will have Sirim QAS certification/label. Sirim labels are either Class Assignment (license exempt) or Apparatus Assignment (license required).


Added on February 19, 2009, 11:25 ammeaning to say....

1) if you have a communication device that has class assignment SIRIM certification, you probably do not require any license....

2) if you have a communication device that has apparatus assignment SIRIM certification, you probably require a license (ie. amateur class A/B license issued by MCMC)

OR

3) if you have a communication device that has NO SIRIM certification. Don't bother on the licensing as YOU HAVE BROKEN the law in the first place!!

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post Feb 19 2009, 11:17 PM

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got pic to show and where is the law stated this. so far all of you are just making assumption but no proven facts or evidence been display in the website.

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really i think the easiest way to determine is by checking out where ure buying it from, the handies tat requires license like yaesu, icom or a motorola gp338plus canot be found in any shops wan as sellers also hav their restrictions for the licensed sets, they'd probably nt sell to u if u dun even hav a basic knowledge of amatuer radio. So if ure buying it frm shops, worry not, those dun need license
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this is not a high range walkie talkie. just the basic and the coverage is limited.
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Feb 19 2009, 11:17 PM)
got pic to show and where is the law stated this. so far all of you are just making assumption but no proven facts or evidence been display in the website.
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This will answer your question on SIRIM requirement:

http://www.skmm.gov.my/facts_figures/codes...%20Approval.pdf

On class assignment (which devices you could use w/o license etc.):

http://www.skmm.gov.my/the_law/NewAct/Act%...b109y2000bi.pdf

Some other interesting facts:

http://www.skmm.gov.my/facts_figures/codes...%20for%20AA.asp
http://www.skmm.gov.my/the_law/legislation.asp





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a 5-watt midland gxt900.. 42 channels with scrambler function. got a pair for less than rm200
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one pragmatic usage that i would think of (idea from others) is to use walkie talkie as a "baby monitor".. this unit has a vox-function.. so i just need to source for a vox mic and voila!

so for toting new parents... you can consider this. so when the baby cries/awake.. you'd know.. 30 miles away! *lol* (ok, that's exaggerating)

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QUOTE(lwb @ Jun 28 2009, 07:50 PM)
a 5-watt midland gxt900.. 42 channels with scrambler function. got a pair for less than rm200
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one pragmatic usage that i would think of (idea from others) is to use walkie talkie as a "baby monitor".. this unit has a vox-function.. so i just need to source for a vox mic and voila!

so for toting new parents... you can consider this. so when the baby cries/awake.. you'd know.. 30 miles away! *lol* (ok, that's exaggerating)
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laugh.gif Your statement made me laugh. But it is indeed true your idea is not bad, although there is already baby monitoring radio in the market laugh.gif
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yeah.. the person who laughs doesn't know that a baby monitor can't be used as a long range walkie talkie.. but a long range walkie talkie can be used as a baby monitor.. moreover, there're other surveillance stuff that i can do with a vox mic.

... who's laughing now?
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if u wan to use it on road u need to go n take the exam. if jus in indoor or just function purpose that no need
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QUOTE(lwb @ Jun 30 2009, 12:17 AM)
yeah.. the person who laughs doesn't know that a baby monitor can't be used as a long range walkie talkie.. but a long range walkie talkie can be used as a baby monitor..  moreover, there're other surveillance stuff that i can do with a vox mic.

... who's laughing now?
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Why so serious? You were joking to use walkie talkie and were also joking on your statement. I know walkie talkie can be used as a baby monitoring radio, but not all would consider that. Come on lar, it is BABY lar, baby need immediate attention even though the baby is just upper floor sleeping in the room. Read my post properly before posting it sarcastically. doh.gif

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i just wasn't aware that you can be so shallow.. that's all doh.gif doh.gif

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