well.... basically it wont be the fastest car around. Personal opinion here.... the cps manual barely has the go to match its looks.... what more the campro auto BUT compared to the cars in ur list like an auto iswara/waja it cant be that bad.... (hef no experience driving an auto satria)

Easy.

If cps they are all H-line

If non cps. Easiest way to tell is passenger airbag. If got SRS airbag on passenger dashboard

Really ah, in my area i seen a lot of used neo cps at car dealer...and if you dont mind, how much is your budget?
And..why neo? Have u ever ride neo before?

Mune has airbag on passenger dashboard. Its hline. However, i thought only hlines of 2009 and above are cps? The ones before 09, all got campro but not cps one..read this on paul tan website

Budget if its hline, is 25k otr price. If not hline, 21k otr. Auto 1.6 yh.

And no i hvnt ridden neo before, but ive had my heart set on this car since years. Used a crappy kancil bfr this, and hv driven a friend's iswara on many occassions. For my next car purchase, wanted something with some killer fancy looks n features (check) and also great performance compared to other similarly priced models (check), and fairly new, like 2006++ (also check). Hence the neo. also its been recommended by many of my friends, over the safa flx or even myvi (at this price).

the old neo..cps one..i find it uncomfortable. after that cps r3 (the red one)..and cps r3 (only the bodykit one) they lower down the seat a bit..i found it better. maybe i'm used to high roof car such a myvi and saga blm. (btw, i'm 180cm).

actually im abit confused as well.....
what i would go with is...
pre 09 cars
-2 airbags, abs,ebd,cruise control = H-line
post 09
-2 airbags, abs,ebd,cruise control + CPS = H-line
-1 airbag +Campro = M-line

keep that in mind, an example of dealers bullsh*t*ng:
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+Neo+1+6+...07-38425312.htm
-07 car, no way in hell its a CPS
-probably a h line from 07
(lots of adds like this in mudah)

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Satria+Neo+1+6+...ly-43641595.htm
-more garbage than the 1st, all the descriptions are rubbish
-look at the engine, year and interior, has a campro, has 2 airbags but wait, 12 car? this no make sense cause, afaik, campro units post 09 did NOT come with twin airbags.... so... either the dealer messed the pics up(unlikely) or he is lying bout the year, OR the info we have on the specs are not 100% complete

now this~~~ i kinda like (but manual)
http://www.mudah.my/2009+Proton+Satria+Neo...M+-44675680.htm
-seems like its a personal car owned by G-ShoCk (traced the phone no to his lowyat acc). No idea why its listed under a company
-not exactly cheap, but alright AND personal car means, less likely to be tampered with

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Mar 18 2016, 10:04 AM

dun buy auto neo la.. no fun

Haha, I am 170cm, so maybe should be ok.

I am going to be test driving it in the weekend, so will see then.

Wow, that was an amazing breakdown of things!
You know, apart from the owner model, the other 2 I had looked into before hehe. I did not pay any attention to the 2012 model as it was already overbudget.

But the other one, the info seems ok for an H-Line.

The thing is this: ALL neo cars have campro engine. Even the pre 2009 ones and the post 2009 ones. The only difference is, Post 2009, H-Line only, has a difference campro engine, which is the CPS. Campro engine is of two types, DOHC and CPS. 2006-end all models of b and m line have dohc. 2006 till 2009 h-line also have dohc, and 2009++ h-line have the CPS. So if any dealer mention campro engine, that is ok. Only thing I know is that the CPS one is only 2009 or above in h-line.
Regarding dealers, the only thing I absolutely hate is that the sites never give the OTR price. Whats given is the car price only. Later when you go to them and ask, they will give you OTR price which is usually more than listed price on site. Besides that, whatever specs they write, is the SAME for all their cars, specially things like "100% good condition gear box, 100% good condition tires".. etc. I have seen many dealers, incl mine, to just copy paste these things and paste it in all their Ads lol.

So that is why I was asking here things like how to tell the h-line apart, and other characteristics. So I know what the dealer is offerring, I have seen the car, love it, and now I will be going with a friend and test drivign it, and will check on important things, like proof of h-line, and things under the hood in good condition, tires etc. Might also take my mechanic to personally check the car, my dealer allowed that. Just need to convince my mechanic, as I do not trust others so cant take them, and mine is hard to convince :'( lol

Also I read on paultan that airbags (2 of them) are also on ALL h-line models, pre and post 2009.

The one I am planning to get, is a version with those red leather seats. (black and red). But its pre-2009. In the paul tan website, for the CPS review they showed those seats, but mine being 2009 below, cant be cps, but I have those seats. So either the previous owner did that, or my dealer is mistaken and maybe it has cps? I hope its the second one personally. Also I forgot, how can one tell the difference between CPS and DOHC engine? Any idea?

Thanks!

yep you got it basically all covered....

cps has a red spark cover, while the campro has a black one (quite obvious) and its written there haha
(incase some smartass paints it, the dummy way to tell is.... one has cps written there (clockwise 90 degrees, T shape) and the other has no cps written there (counterclockwise 90 degrees, L shape)

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Mar 18 2016, 12:30 PM

You missed the Cusco JP variant
http://www.proton.co.jp/parts.html

Satria neo is a RM 200 mil/500 mil writeoff from proton. Too niche a car to be profitable.



The lotus is the most expensive, but rides high. You want the more sensible r3-2011 year model.

People are complaining of the torque dip actually, which is quite bad.

If you want a hatchback, get the Suprima. Has rear doors. The neo's long doors+small parking place at shopping mall = trapped inside

Neo cps / r3 still one of the best looking car around

the car itself looks good. too bad high cost of r&d..bad interior design and overall packaging.

Was wondering if you guys have any experience in this. I am planning to go test drive the car with a friend tomorrow, who knows stuff about cars. However, he is not a mechanic, but knows many things.

Could any one from any experience or reference, give me a quick list of things I need to check while test driving, to ensure I have covered all bases? I can think of the driving itself, performance a bit, brakes, stereo, all lights inside n out, aircon, power windows and other controls. Anything else?

Also, I initially had a plan of getting my usual mechanic to the dealer shop, to check the car. But the mechanic does not wish to travel all the way for this (bit lazy one i think), and he's asking me to get the car to him. I can't do that since the car has no road tax etc., so can't take it far around. I would prefer not to get other mechanics as I do not trust any random mechanic. So in this case, any one got any ideas on what should I do? Is there a quick way to pop the hood and check things with my friend (who knows about cars), so that it wont be necessary to get my mechanic?

I might be able to get him by paying more, but that is also painful since I will be sending quite a lot on downpayment for this and such so saving for that. :/

Need ideas!

basically.... check everything, i had my own checklist... i was an idiot so i didnt write it down and everytime i went, i forgot a few items

+can check normally
++hardcore mode
*random tips

-interior
+check wear and tear, see if it matches the mileage
+ofc check the specs to confirm trim level (cruise control, airbags)
+check the electronics....
++stripsearch, look for stains under the trim at the sides and the bottom feet wells, also look for rust at the corners (this means pulling out the seats for the back and the mats at the bottom, but this is more applicable if the car is like 20 years old)
*on japanese cars, the general year of manufacture can be found on the seatbelts (not sure bout potongs, never checked)

-engine
+this one... u pandai pandailah, too many ways to check, many dif ideas
+no funny sounds, check if fluid levels are up, color all ok? (shops usually dah cover all problems here)
+leaks (unfortunately i have seen cars pre and after masuk kedai, signs of leaks all missing)
+some have poop on the engine covers 9means car has not moved for some time, check harder now!
+ask bout belts, oil whatnot, all adds up
++look out for mods.... (but auto campro less likely to be molested)

-exterior
+check for accident damage, search throughout the car!!!! look underneeth, look at the sides, look at the front radiator mount/subframe with the bonet open, any strange curves and its a sign the car has been repaired (anything funky, take pics hehe, no fnky also can take pics! we mau tengok)
+check for overspray, some fellas respray the cars to coverup damage some will admit resprayed, some wont (ask before vewing, pretend you dont know nuts)
+in the engine bay, u can find info on the car (from the plate, u can tell the color, trim, some cases engine, differs from car to car)
+check tyres, all same?(not same means kept on a budget) any bald spots?(means been sitting), wear rate same?(if no, allignment)
+lampu
++jackup! see if bottom nais or not!, also helpful to find oil leaks~

-driving
+check steering ade veer to any direction,
+brakes ok,
+no funny sounds, some would advise you tekan abit to see if it does anything funny

remember take your time~~
not sure if i missed anything

Stage 2 na stock mod... damn cun

Wow!That is an amazingly comprehensive list. I guess that covers everything and I wont need to look much further.

Thanks a LOT!
I might print this and take it there haha.

ahh yes...
-check the back spare tyre area for signs of rear collisions (in event of a bad accident, very difficult to repair this...
-check tyre age
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