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TSharoon86
post Mar 16 2016, 04:48 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi,


I am looking into buying a second hand Satria Neo 1.6.
I am having problems finding many Satria Neo which is model 2009 or above.
I found plenty 2007, and 2008. Price also slightly lower for these models.

But, the different models - 2006,07,08,09 look the same.

Can any one please tell me what are the noticeable differences between Satria Neo 1.6, models 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009? Any internal difference I should be aware of before purchasing? I asked some sellers and they say almost no difference between the 4 models. So I am really confused. sad.gif


Please help!


Thanks a lot. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:16 PM

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the year does not signify the different models.. just the year the car was manufactured.

there is no difference between the year manufactured between the models.

eg of models: M-line, H-line, CPS, CPS R3, etc etc.

a 2006 M-line will be the same as a 2009 M-line.
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 16 2016, 05:16 PM)
the year does not signify the different models.. just the year the car was manufactured.

there is no difference between the year manufactured between the models.

eg of models: M-line, H-line, CPS, CPS R3, etc etc.

a 2006 M-line will be the same as a 2009 M-line.
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^ this covers it....

and dont expect the r3 cars to come with any performance parts ya.... its basically just like a high line with asthetical stuff bolted on

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post Mar 16 2016, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Mar 16 2016, 05:35 PM)
^ this covers it....

and dont expect the r3 cars to come with any performance parts ya.... its basically just like a high line with asthetical stuff bolted on
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got one cps r3 with r3 performance parts..but limited edition.
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Mar 16 2016, 05:35 PM)
and dont expect the r3 cars to come with any performance parts ya.... its basically just like a high line with asthetical stuff bolted on
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This one does....limited edition...145bhp

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post Mar 16 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Mar 16 2016, 05:40 PM)
got one cps r3 with r3 performance parts..but limited edition.
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yep, only a few variants,
1)those limited edition 'real' r3 ones with the numbered plates
2)those clubsport editions with the cage
3)the lotus edition

i think thats all? keep in mind that those have eye popping pricetags!
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post Mar 16 2016, 05:47 PM

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the lotus racing edition is the best variant of the Neo's, maybe?

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post Mar 16 2016, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(goandloveyourself @ Mar 16 2016, 05:47 PM)
the lotus racing edition is the best variant of the Neo's, maybe?
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with a price tag of 6 figures when it was launched~

**them brakes and suspension though... i much jelly....**

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TSharoon86
post Mar 17 2016, 08:07 AM

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Wow, Thats a lot of helpful information!
My confusion is almost gone now. Thanks a lot guys. biggrin.gif

Another thing, I researched and found out the 2006-2008 models have the Campro S4PH engine, where as the 2009 and above have the Campro CPS engine. Is it true? I know the engines are different with the CPS giving higher BHP etc., but how much of a noticeable difference does it translate to on city roads driving, slopes etc.?

Thanks. smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(haroon86 @ Mar 17 2016, 08:07 AM)
Wow, Thats a lot of helpful information!
My confusion is almost gone now. Thanks a lot guys. biggrin.gif

Another thing, I researched and found out the 2006-2008 models have the Campro S4PH engine, where as the 2009 and above have the Campro CPS engine. Is it true? I know the engines are different with the CPS giving higher BHP etc., but how much of a noticeable difference does it translate to on city roads driving, slopes etc.?

Thanks. smile.gif
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not 100% sure.... but i always thought that the cps model replaced the top range neos... meaning that at that point of time, the 1.3 campro, 1.6 campro and 1.6 cps were available concurrently (not that it completely replaced the campro 1.6)

if i were to compare 2 stock units.... cps models were prettier looking, had a nicer interior and had a little more power to match the looks

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QUOTE(haroon86 @ Mar 17 2016, 09:07 AM)
Wow, Thats a lot of helpful information!
My confusion is almost gone now. Thanks a lot guys. biggrin.gif

Another thing, I researched and found out the 2006-2008 models have the Campro S4PH engine, where as the 2009 and above have the Campro CPS engine. Is it true? I know the engines are different with the CPS giving higher BHP etc., but how much of a noticeable difference does it translate to on city roads driving, slopes etc.?

Thanks. smile.gif
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Just look at the bodykit. The CPS has screws on the fender and big spoiler

If you're not planning on heavy mods go for the cps
TSharoon86
post Mar 17 2016, 02:33 PM

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I got some good deals on the non-CPS models. I might go for those.
The CPS ones are not easily available second hand, and the ones which are, are kinda outta my budget, so I might settle for the 2006-2009 version.

I always wondered what those screws on the fender where for. Now I know. Thanks!


The model which I might most probably buy is the 2006. I got an h-line version for it. There are 2007-08 models with same pricing, but all m-line versions, or some are 1.3. I have heard 1.3 is not as good. So I guess eventhough its 2006, but h-line, it would fare better than 2007 or 08, m-lines right?

Finally, I would like to know this. Since I am going for the above car, mainly because its h-line, can any one tell me what would be a good way for me to ensure that it is indeed the h-line and has all the features that the h-line supposed to have? I apologize if it sounds like a stupid or noob question. I am not that good with cars, and none of my friends have the satria so cant ask them.. :/

Thanks

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post Mar 17 2016, 02:40 PM

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just a reminder....
-make sure car is accident free
-dont trust the dealers, check and double check to make sure (paint originality, leaks,tyres)
-call before you view the car, prices are rarely as stated

just an advise
-buy a car from an owner... most dealers are ripoffs (not saying all dealers are like this, nor am i saying all owners are honest)
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post Mar 17 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(haroon86 @ Mar 17 2016, 02:33 PM)
I got some good deals on the non-CPS models. I might go for those.
The CPS ones are not easily available second hand, and the ones which are, are kinda outta my budget, so I might settle for the 2006-2009 version.

I always wondered what those screws on the fender where for. Now I know. Thanks!
The model which I might most probably buy is the 2006. I got an h-line version for it. There are 2007-08 models with same pricing, but all m-line versions, or some are 1.3. I have heard 1.3 is not as good. So I guess eventhough its 2006, but h-line, it would fare better than 2007 or 08, m-lines right?

Finally, I would like to know this. Since I am going for the above car, mainly because its h-line, can any one tell me what would be a good way for me to ensure that it is indeed the h-line and has all the features that the h-line supposed to have? I apologize if it sounds like a stupid or noob question. I am not that good with cars, and none of my friends have the satria so cant ask them.. :/

Thanks
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i still liked the Neo's design even today. nice car.
but alas i cant fit in the Neo. I'm not even that tall, only 175cm, and my head is almost touching the roof of the car, and when trying to drive, my view feels blocked by the roof-line. Have you sat in the car and driven around?
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post Mar 17 2016, 03:07 PM

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Don't buy the non CPS Neo, especially with the Auto gearbox.. its has infamous torque dip.. if possible get the CPS version.

Can distinguished by the Red color plug cover on the engine head.
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post Mar 17 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(goandloveyourself @ Mar 17 2016, 03:05 PM)
i still liked the Neo's design even today. nice car.
but alas i cant fit in the Neo. I'm not even that tall, only 175cm, and my head is almost touching the roof of the car, and when trying to drive, my view feels blocked by the roof-line. Have you sat in the car and driven around?
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ehh not so badlah, around the same height as you there is still some headroom laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Mar 17 2016, 03:40 PM)
just a reminder....
-make sure car is accident free
-dont trust the dealers, check and double check to make sure (paint originality, leaks,tyres)
-call before you view the car, prices are rarely as stated

just an advise
-buy a car from an owner... most dealers are ripoffs (not saying all dealers are like this, nor am i saying all owners are honest)
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My previous car I got from an owner (Kancil), and it was an extremely bad experience. Everything started like breaking down after 2 months of usage, and now I have to spend like 4-5k yearly on repairs on it. So that is why this time I was looking to get from dealers.

I will of course do proper checking before buying.

Thanks for the advice. smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 04:28 PM

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Are there any visible differences or any indication that it is H-line? Like if I test drive, or have some one look at the car, how can one say it is for sure H-Line?

My only fear is that what if some one cheats me saying its h-line but its not actually? So was wondering if there is some way to check that.
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post Mar 17 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(haroon86 @ Mar 17 2016, 04:28 PM)
Are there any visible differences or any indication that it is H-line? Like if I test drive, or have some one look at the car, how can one say it is for sure H-Line?

My only fear is that what if some one cheats me saying its h-line but its not actually? So was wondering if there is some way to check that.
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dealers are the buggers who tend to pull stunts like this..... they say, ohh~~ trd ver, type r, what bollocks~~

i dont know this car well enough to help you here BUT google does.... (tip, go into paultan archives and check the 06
-highline comes with engine cover (i read off the paul tan site)
-high-line model comes with anti-lock brakes, rest dont
-cruise control for the automatic transmission
kenot post paultan link kan?

**from personal experience i still feel that a private seller is better, u know the history, less bs, pay less (usually lower otr price tag, dealers will tell you there is this and that processing fee, all rubbish)**

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TSharoon86
post Mar 17 2016, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Mar 17 2016, 05:37 PM)
dealers are the buggers who tend to pull stunts like this..... they say, ohh~~ trd ver, type r, what bollocks~~

i dont know this car well enough to help you here BUT google does.... (tip, go into paultan archives and check the 06
-highline comes with engine cover (i read off the paul tan site)
-high-line model comes with anti-lock brakes, rest dont
-cruise control for the automatic transmission
kenot post paultan link kan?

**from personal experience i still feel that a private seller is better, u know the history, less bs, pay less (usually lower otr price tag, dealers will tell you there is this and that processing fee, all rubbish)**
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Thanks.

Also as I was researching more, some people say that the auto gearbox is bad? ohmy.gif
I finally liked a good H-Line piece, and I have been looking for auto 1.6 all this while and this particular one suited all my requirements, and it looked EXCELLENT! But its auto, which I really wanted.

But is it that bad? Like compared to what? I have driven isawara auto, waja, myvi, mutsibushi all auto, etc. Or is it really bad compared to like sporty higher spec cars? *worried*

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