Hi,


I am looking into buying a second hand Satria Neo 1.6.
I am having problems finding many Satria Neo which is model 2009 or above.
I found plenty 2007, and 2008. Price also slightly lower for these models.

But, the different models - 2006,07,08,09 look the same.

Can any one please tell me what are the noticeable differences between Satria Neo 1.6, models 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009? Any internal difference I should be aware of before purchasing? I asked some sellers and they say almost no difference between the 4 models. So I am really confused.


Please help!


Thanks a lot.

Wow, Thats a lot of helpful information!
My confusion is almost gone now. Thanks a lot guys.

Another thing, I researched and found out the 2006-2008 models have the Campro S4PH engine, where as the 2009 and above have the Campro CPS engine. Is it true? I know the engines are different with the CPS giving higher BHP etc., but how much of a noticeable difference does it translate to on city roads driving, slopes etc.?

Thanks.

I got some good deals on the non-CPS models. I might go for those.
The CPS ones are not easily available second hand, and the ones which are, are kinda outta my budget, so I might settle for the 2006-2009 version.

I always wondered what those screws on the fender where for. Now I know. Thanks!


The model which I might most probably buy is the 2006. I got an h-line version for it. There are 2007-08 models with same pricing, but all m-line versions, or some are 1.3. I have heard 1.3 is not as good. So I guess eventhough its 2006, but h-line, it would fare better than 2007 or 08, m-lines right?

Finally, I would like to know this. Since I am going for the above car, mainly because its h-line, can any one tell me what would be a good way for me to ensure that it is indeed the h-line and has all the features that the h-line supposed to have? I apologize if it sounds like a stupid or noob question. I am not that good with cars, and none of my friends have the satria so cant ask them.. :/

Thanks

My previous car I got from an owner (Kancil), and it was an extremely bad experience. Everything started like breaking down after 2 months of usage, and now I have to spend like 4-5k yearly on repairs on it. So that is why this time I was looking to get from dealers.

I will of course do proper checking before buying.

Thanks for the advice.

Are there any visible differences or any indication that it is H-line? Like if I test drive, or have some one look at the car, how can one say it is for sure H-Line?

My only fear is that what if some one cheats me saying its h-line but its not actually? So was wondering if there is some way to check that.

Thanks.

Also as I was researching more, some people say that the auto gearbox is bad?
I finally liked a good H-Line piece, and I have been looking for auto 1.6 all this while and this particular one suited all my requirements, and it looked EXCELLENT! But its auto, which I really wanted.

But is it that bad? Like compared to what? I have driven isawara auto, waja, myvi, mutsibushi all auto, etc. Or is it really bad compared to like sporty higher spec cars? *worried*

Mune has airbag on passenger dashboard. Its hline. However, i thought only hlines of 2009 and above are cps? The ones before 09, all got campro but not cps one..read this on paul tan website

Budget if its hline, is 25k otr price. If not hline, 21k otr. Auto 1.6 yh.

And no i hvnt ridden neo before, but ive had my heart set on this car since years. Used a crappy kancil bfr this, and hv driven a friend's iswara on many occassions. For my next car purchase, wanted something with some killer fancy looks n features (check) and also great performance compared to other similarly priced models (check), and fairly new, like 2006++ (also check). Hence the neo. also its been recommended by many of my friends, over the safa flx or even myvi (at this price).

Haha, I am 170cm, so maybe should be ok.

I am going to be test driving it in the weekend, so will see then.

Wow, that was an amazing breakdown of things!
You know, apart from the owner model, the other 2 I had looked into before hehe. I did not pay any attention to the 2012 model as it was already overbudget.

But the other one, the info seems ok for an H-Line.

The thing is this: ALL neo cars have campro engine. Even the pre 2009 ones and the post 2009 ones. The only difference is, Post 2009, H-Line only, has a difference campro engine, which is the CPS. Campro engine is of two types, DOHC and CPS. 2006-end all models of b and m line have dohc. 2006 till 2009 h-line also have dohc, and 2009++ h-line have the CPS. So if any dealer mention campro engine, that is ok. Only thing I know is that the CPS one is only 2009 or above in h-line.
Regarding dealers, the only thing I absolutely hate is that the sites never give the OTR price. Whats given is the car price only. Later when you go to them and ask, they will give you OTR price which is usually more than listed price on site. Besides that, whatever specs they write, is the SAME for all their cars, specially things like "100% good condition gear box, 100% good condition tires".. etc. I have seen many dealers, incl mine, to just copy paste these things and paste it in all their Ads lol.

So that is why I was asking here things like how to tell the h-line apart, and other characteristics. So I know what the dealer is offerring, I have seen the car, love it, and now I will be going with a friend and test drivign it, and will check on important things, like proof of h-line, and things under the hood in good condition, tires etc. Might also take my mechanic to personally check the car, my dealer allowed that. Just need to convince my mechanic, as I do not trust others so cant take them, and mine is hard to convince :'( lol

Also I read on paultan that airbags (2 of them) are also on ALL h-line models, pre and post 2009.

The one I am planning to get, is a version with those red leather seats. (black and red). But its pre-2009. In the paul tan website, for the CPS review they showed those seats, but mine being 2009 below, cant be cps, but I have those seats. So either the previous owner did that, or my dealer is mistaken and maybe it has cps? I hope its the second one personally. Also I forgot, how can one tell the difference between CPS and DOHC engine? Any idea?

Thanks!

Was wondering if you guys have any experience in this. I am planning to go test drive the car with a friend tomorrow, who knows stuff about cars. However, he is not a mechanic, but knows many things.

Could any one from any experience or reference, give me a quick list of things I need to check while test driving, to ensure I have covered all bases? I can think of the driving itself, performance a bit, brakes, stereo, all lights inside n out, aircon, power windows and other controls. Anything else?

Also, I initially had a plan of getting my usual mechanic to the dealer shop, to check the car. But the mechanic does not wish to travel all the way for this (bit lazy one i think), and he's asking me to get the car to him. I can't do that since the car has no road tax etc., so can't take it far around. I would prefer not to get other mechanics as I do not trust any random mechanic. So in this case, any one got any ideas on what should I do? Is there a quick way to pop the hood and check things with my friend (who knows about cars), so that it wont be necessary to get my mechanic?

I might be able to get him by paying more, but that is also painful since I will be sending quite a lot on downpayment for this and such so saving for that. :/

Need ideas!

Wow!That is an amazingly comprehensive list. I guess that covers everything and I wont need to look much further.

Thanks a LOT!
I might print this and take it there haha.

Well the car I am looking it is indeed 9 years old (2007 model).

So perhaps IF no prts have changed in that time, it could mean two things:

1. It still has all original things in it.

2. Because they have been there for so long, what if I buy and then suddenly soon I have to change them? :'(


I'm gna go for test drive and checking like in 2 hours.. nervous a bit haha

Ok so I saw the car. Turns out, it was not an h-line after all. loool. The advertisement was not accurate and when I checked for the h-line only things, none of them were present, so it was an m-line 2006. For the price of 25k, an m-line 10 year old car suddenly was not worth it for me. When I checked the insides thoroughly (based on ur awesome list), even the insides some areas look pretty old and all; no wonder though coz its 10 year old car.

Thankfully the dealer also admit its an m-line and not h-line. I was glad he admit his mistake.

So after I was not interested in it at all, the dealer showed me another neo. This one is a 2010 model. definitely h-line (I checked), and has everything in MUCH better condition, as well as ofcourse the cps campro engine. Additionally it comes with full r3 body kit. Mileage is around 53k, so that is also good, and it being 2010, its a newer car. The condition was so good, it was as good as new in many area, incl under the hood.
The price for this is 35500RM (OTR). I have checked online and neos with similar specs incl r3 body kit are going for similar or higher price.

I took 2 friends with me, whose car knowledge is way better than mine. They approve of it too.

So I guess I might be going for that one. Gona ponder over it for a day or 2 more and then decide for sure.

Also, any one here have experience with Satria Neo H-Line CPS Model? Any thoughts or numbers on the FC?

Can you get me the link to the neo club? Is it in lowyat forum?

The car I saw had no other engine mods done..so that would be stock and nice. the exterior is fully r3. interior is really new-ish. (well maintained)

The Johor car you showed was amazing! The price would be around same as mine I think. haha.
Also, I can't really buy from an owner easily as I am foreigner, and am limited in my budget to suddenly pay a huge amount or even a huge d/p.Buying through a dealer will gimme the benefit of some flexible loan options and so on. I would be buying this particular one on a 7 yr loan (if I am getting it), so the amount per month I have to let go is in my budget atm. The benefit also is that its a 2010 car, so a bit newer. Well those are the pros in this deal I guess.

I looked around on mudah, and the best deal I got for the same car, is my own dealer lol. There was another dealer too, selling the same model, but his OTR price was higher.

I am like days away from getting my Satria Neo CPS auto 2010, with full R3 bodykit.

I was wondering, is there any place I could get a softcopy of the owner's manual that comes with the car? Since this is second hand, pretty sure it does not come with the owner's manual. So was wondering if there is a copy of it somewhere online?

Thanks

Hi!

Haha long time no post.

k a lot happened between then and now, and its not been a good story so far.

Well I did not get the car yet. My first bank (cimb), rejected the loan.
The secnd one, heong leong, looked very hopeful, but then they evaluated the market value of the car to 30k, and hence got me a loan of only 21k, which means my downpayment would become like 15k, so had to let that go.

My dealer says he knows of no other banks to try.

I am personally gna try a few banks myself and see as last resort.


Meanwhile, I saw a newer car (2011) and an overall better deal at AutoCraver. Its a new much much more awesome service for second hand cars, so I have submitted my process and documents there for processing. They will try to get bank loan for me from their side. If that works out, then I will let go of this 35.5k deal immediately and go for that one.
I will be getting a reply from the Autocraver service on the bank loan results in like 7 days, so fingers crossed.


Its been such a tough one month trying to chase down the car and the bank loans. the bank loans are definitely the most excruciatingly difficult part from a foreigner perspective, it is so difficult! :'(


Well I hope this new try goes well. Any one got any tips for bank loans for foreigners? Any good recommended banks? Any experiences?

I would love to know.

Thanks.

Hi,

Well I havn't gotten the car yet unfortunately.

But when I do, this looks like an interesting offer. Still available?

How much is the price?

Please leme know.

Thanks.

Hi all,

Ok here is another update. A very interesting and weird one. (I am not even sure if this is the right thread for it, but since you guys have been so kind in helping me all this time, I feel better asking here. Perhaps you could guide me)

So my satria neo plan, is still unsure. I have tried many banks, bad luck with all of them. Only one final bank loan application remaining, and if this one says no to a good loan amount, I wont be able to apply for any bank loan for a while, and then due to some circumstances with my visa (as I will be moving to a different company this year later), looks like I wont be able to apply for another car loan till next year February.

So meanwhile, I will have then time to do 2 things:

1. To back off for a while, and save money for a higher downpayment for next year, so I do not have the same issue again next year.

2. My current kancil 660 (2001 modle) is almost dead. As in, it has TOO MANY issues and fixes to do, which might properly cost me around 2.5-3k to fix. So I was thinking, why not get a very cheap temporary car for now, which is better than my Kancil atleast, so it can last me for some good time (a year or 2 MAX), till I plan for a nicer better car in future. The cheap car would mean I might have to spend a bit more than the crapped up kancil I have for now, and it will be a much better car to last me a while. This would be direct buy, no loans etc. Lets call it the 'Interim Car'.

For this, I was looking around choices, which would be around 4.5-5k for the car. I found a NAZA Sutera (1100cc), being sold by an owner on Facebook. This is a 2007 model, and he seems to have maintained it and taken care of it really well. He has changed a lot of parts recently. The overall car, along with all new changed parts, and everything else, is going for around 5k. Here is a few things he said in a chat recently:

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Mounting rubber 180rm (Have to replace sometime in future soon)
Drive Shaft 150rm. (Have to replace sometime in future soon)
Paint chip on right side was there when I bought.
And small dent on back door left side from taxi.
Insurance road tax till 2017 worth 700rm+
Interior no issues at all. Very clean. may be get new steering cover.
Tyres good for about 6 months, the back ones. Front wheels no problem.
Blue led light in Floor of car, looks cool at night.
Passenger window doesn't open from when I bought but I don't open Coz in Malaysia aircon is a necessity. It is very cold. New compressor, air filter etc. Worth 1500
Drive Shaft only makes noise when you are turning steering full.
Engine is very stong. Went up genting without stopping once
Every 5000km when I go for maintenance I changed something new.

New parts are (all changed within last year)
- left drive shaft
- Fuel pump
- Aircon compressor
- Clutch cable
- Clutch plate
- Brakes front and back
- Battery
- Spark plugs

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Now, I have seen lots of reviews of the Naza Sutera, and they do not paint a very pretty picture honestly. But I have a suspicion, they might be comparing it to better cars like Myvi. I wanted to know, is the above specific Sutera, a good choice for a decent temporary car for a couple of years? Specially as compared to my 2001 Kancil 660ex? As this is a temporary car, its only 5k, with new parts, and it would replace my kancil, so I am mainly thinking, is it a better replacement, for that price and above specs?

I would really appreciate any honest reviews or help with this and let me know what you guys think. Trust you all a lot so it would really help me make a decision.

Thanks a LOT as always guys.