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MilitaryMadness
post Mar 21 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 21 2016, 09:58 AM)
i think it's not aft bridge per se... it's for heli ops
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Is it necessary to have it? The Navy version Type 056 don't have the aft bridge part. On Navy type that is where the FL-3000N (RAM) missile launcher is located.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 21 2016, 05:05 PM)
Is it necessary to have it? The Navy version Type 056 don't have the aft bridge part. On Navy type that is where the FL-3000N (RAM) missile launcher is located.
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on most ships that have heli ops, they'll have some sort of bridge just for that purpose. and it does not involved in navigation of the ship.
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TOW-2A-DAMAGED T-90 DISPLAYED

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Today, on March 20, Syrian war correspondents published the first photos showing the effects of the TOW-2A hit on the T-90.

Unfortunately, the photo’s angle was not chosen too well–it is only evident that one of the Shtora emitters suffered damage.


http://rusvesna.su/news/1458478488
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 21 2016, 05:24 PM)
on most ships that have heli ops, they'll have some sort of bridge just for that purpose. and it does not involved in navigation of the ship.
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I didn't mean it as a bridge as a control bridge. I figured the structure is probably a covered observation platform to keep an eye of the area behind the ship for extended periods. Some ships do have an observation platform there, but some are uncovered besides a roof and quite open to the elements.
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Indonesia says it feels efforts on South China Sea 'sabotaged' after latest dispute with China

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JAKARTA (REUTERS) - Indonesia "feels sabotaged" in its efforts to maintain peace in the disputed South China Sea and may bring its latest maritime dispute with China to an international court, a minister said on Monday (March 21).

Earlier on Monday, the Indonesian foreign minister said a Chinese coastguard vessel had "breached" Indonesia's sovereign rights when it prevented Indonesian authorities from detaining a Chinese fishing vessel in waters near the contested South China Sea.

China says its fishing vessel was operating in "traditional Chinese fishing grounds".

"Indonesia has for years been pursuing and promoting peace in the South China Sea. With yesterday's incident we feel interrupted and sabotaged in our efforts," fisheries minister Susi Pudjiastuti told reporters after meeting Chinese embassy officials in Jakarta.

Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi had met Chinese Embassy representatives in Jakarta after the incident involving a Chinese coast guard vessel, a Chinese fishing vessel, and an Indonesian patrol ship in the northern Natuna Sea.

"At the meeting we conveyed our strong protest over... the breach by the Chinese coast guard of Indonesia's sovereign rights, " Mr Marsudi told reporters in a press conference.

Indonesian authorities attempted to detain a Chinese vessel they said was fishing illegally in its waters, an Indonesian official said earlier. Eight Chinese crew members were detained but the Chinese coastguard prevented Indonesia from securing the fishing vessel.

China said the fishing vessel was operating in “traditional Chinese fishing grounds” and has demanded the fishermen be released.

"When it comes to fishery disputes, or maritime issues, China is always ready to work with Indonesia to solve these disputes trough negotiations and dialogue," Chinese embassy official Sun Weide told reporters in Jakarta after meeting the Indonesian fisheries minister.

China claims almost the entire South China Sea, a strategic shipping corridor, also rich in fish and natural gas, where several South-east Asian countries also have overlapping claims. Indonesia is not a claimant.

But China and Indonesia do not contest the sovereignty of the Natuna islands and the seas around them: Both agree they are part of Indonesia’s Riau Province.

But tension between the two sides does flare every now and then, usually over Chinese fishing boats.

In March 2013, armed Chinese vessels confronted an Indonesian fisheries patrol boat and demanded the release of Chinese fishermen who had been apprehended in Natuna waters. Fearing for his safety, the captain of the Indonesian boat complied.

Similarly, in 2010, a Chinese maritime enforcement vessel compelled an Indonesian patrol boat to release another illegal Chinese trawler.

Indonesia has no plans to boost military resources in the remote, resource-rich Natuna Islands in response to the latest incident, the defence minister said.

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/i...donesian-waters
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post Mar 21 2016, 10:22 PM

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Ini Mosin Nagant conversion nih.

Pity them ukranian. Have to raid the museum just to equip their army. meanwhile their military industry die2 still want to export military stuff

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 21 2016, 09:50 PM)
Indonesia says it feels efforts on South China Sea 'sabotaged' after latest dispute with China

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JAKARTA (REUTERS) -  Indonesia "feels sabotaged" in its efforts to maintain peace in the disputed South China Sea and may bring its latest maritime dispute with China to an international court, a minister said on Monday (March 21).

Earlier on Monday, the Indonesian foreign minister said a Chinese coastguard vessel had "breached" Indonesia's sovereign rights when it prevented Indonesian authorities from detaining a Chinese fishing vessel in waters near the contested South China Sea.

China says its fishing vessel was operating in "traditional Chinese fishing grounds".

"Indonesia has for years been pursuing and promoting peace in the South China Sea. With yesterday's incident we feel interrupted and sabotaged in our efforts," fisheries minister Susi Pudjiastuti told reporters after meeting Chinese embassy officials in Jakarta.

Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi had met Chinese Embassy representatives in Jakarta after the incident involving a Chinese coast guard vessel, a Chinese fishing vessel, and an Indonesian patrol ship in the northern Natuna Sea.

"At the meeting we conveyed our strong protest over... the breach by the Chinese coast guard of Indonesia's sovereign rights, " Mr Marsudi told reporters in a press conference.

Indonesian authorities attempted to detain a Chinese vessel they said was fishing illegally in its waters, an Indonesian official said earlier. Eight Chinese crew members were detained but the Chinese coastguard prevented Indonesia from securing the fishing vessel.

China said the fishing vessel was operating in “traditional Chinese fishing grounds” and has demanded the fishermen be released.

"When it comes to fishery disputes, or maritime issues, China is always ready to work with Indonesia to solve these disputes trough negotiations and dialogue," Chinese embassy official Sun Weide told reporters in Jakarta after meeting the Indonesian fisheries minister.

China claims almost the entire South China Sea, a strategic shipping corridor, also rich in fish and natural gas, where several South-east Asian countries also have overlapping claims. Indonesia is not a claimant.

But China and Indonesia do not contest the sovereignty of the Natuna islands and the seas around them: Both agree they are part of Indonesia’s Riau Province.

But tension between the two sides does flare every now and then, usually over Chinese fishing boats.

In March 2013, armed Chinese vessels confronted an Indonesian fisheries patrol boat and demanded the release of Chinese fishermen who had been apprehended in Natuna waters. Fearing for his safety, the captain of the Indonesian boat complied.

Similarly, in 2010, a Chinese maritime enforcement vessel compelled an Indonesian patrol boat to release another illegal Chinese trawler.

Indonesia has no plans to boost military resources in the remote, resource-rich Natuna Islands in response to the latest incident, the defence minister said.

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/i...donesian-waters
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Is there something going on with the Indonesians lately? Saw the other thread about detaining malaysian fishermen and they just shot up 2 Taiwanese fishing boats traversing the straits of melaka.
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post Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 21 2016, 10:22 PM)
Ini Mosin Nagant conversion nih.

Pity them ukranian. Have to raid the museum just to equip their army. meanwhile their military industry die2 still want to export military stuff

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what the fuckck is that?............Maxim gun ? blink.gif blink.gif
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never know we got such a thread here. Should gather more military people here in lowyat
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Pictures: Indonesia's First Type 209/1200 Submarine Out of Construction Hall at DSME
 
Pictures have emerged showing Indonesian Navy's (TNI AL) first Type 209/1200 Chang Bogo Class diesel electric submarine (SSK) derivative out of the construction hall at DSME (Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co., Ltd) shipyard in South Korea.
     
The pictures show the first submarine of the series, KRI Nagabanda (hull number 403) being moved out of the construction hall on a Self-Propelled Modular Transporter (SPMT).

South Korea's DSME signed a contract in 2011 that calls for the construction of three 1,400-ton submarines (in collaboration with local shipyard PT PAL) for the Indonesian Navy for a total of $1.1 billion. The contract marked Korea's largest single export defense contract and the first submarine export contract as well.

DSME is set to built the first two submarines, KRI Nagabanda (hull number 403) and KRI Trisula (404) in South Korea while PT PAL should built the third hull KRI Nagarangsang (405) in Indonesia. PT PAL could also build follow-on hulls in the future.
     
The first two submarines are expected to be delivered in 2017 and 2018. Delivery of the third unit is not clear yet.

According to DSME, the vessels will be of 61.3 meters in length, and will be capable of carrying a crew of 40 sailors. These submarines will be fully armed with eight weapon tubes able to discharge all kinds of torpedoes, mines, and guided missiles.

The submarines will be equipped with Indra's Pegaso RESM system and Aries low-probability of intercept radar, Atlas Electronic CSU 90 hull-mounted passive and active search-and-attack sonar and flank sonar arrays, L-3's MAPPS integrated platform management systems and Sagem's Sigma 40XP inertial navigation systems.


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?o...sk=view&id=3718

^^^ Navy Recognition got it wrong it should be DSME Type 209/1400.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 22 2016, 12:25 AM)
Is there something going on with the Indonesians lately? Saw the other thread about detaining malaysian fishermen and they just shot up 2 Taiwanese fishing boats traversing the straits of melaka.
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yeaps.. seems like they have gone full retard every since jokowi took over... singking a lot of foreign fishing boat instead of fining and releasing them... dont think it is in the interest of asean by doing so... albeit this case involving prc


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 21 2016, 11:34 PM)
yeaps.. seems like they have gone full retard every since jokowi took over... singking a lot of foreign fishing boat instead of fining and releasing them... dont think it is in the interest of asean by doing so... albeit this case involving prc
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it been the indonesia way ever since

please the armed forces, your administration will prosper. Indonesian may deny it but it pretty obvious

want win voter hearts,.. "gayang malaysia" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 21 2016, 11:41 PM)
it been the indonesia way ever since

please the armed forces, your administration will prosper. Indonesian may deny it but it pretty obvious

want win voter hearts,.. "gayang malaysia" laugh.gif
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It's magnified nowadays because people like mahathir and LKY arent here anymore
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Mar 21 2016, 11:48 PM)
It's magnified nowadays because people like mahathir and LKY arent here anymore
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there no one single person to blame. so now china and vietnam get the short stick

Nothing unite ppl more than a common enemy, though in latter case was imaginary enemy
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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM)
what the fuckck is that?............Maxim gun ?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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A M1910/30 Russian Maxim to be exact.

The large cap on top of the water jacket is for putting in snow to cool the barrel during firing. Uniquely Russian I say. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 22 2016, 08:34 AM)
A M1910/30 Russian Maxim to be exact. 

The large cap on top of the water jacket is for putting in snow to cool the barrel during firing. Uniquely Russian I say.  laugh.gif
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they employ jacket cooling, that makes them Maxim heavier that modern machine guns of the same calibre.


The Maxim gun was invented by Sir Hiram Stevens Maxim in 1883, and was the first recoil-operated machine gun.[1] It has been called "the weapon most associated with the British imperial conquest".[2]
The mechanism of the Maxim gun employed one of the earliest recoil operated firing systems in history. The idea is that the energy from the recoil is used to eject each spent cartridge and insert the next one, in lieu of a locked bolt or a lever mechanism. This made it vastly more efficient and less labor-intensive than previous rapid-firing guns, such as the Mitrailleuse, Gatling, Gardner, or Nordenfelt, that relied on actual mechanical cranking. It also decreased the gas buildup in the barrel, allowing the gun to fire more bullets over an extended period of time without overheating the barrel. The Maxim gun design required water cooling, giving it the ability to maintain its rate of fire for far longer than air-cooled guns. The disadvantage of this was that it made the gun less flexible in attack than the lighter air-cooled weapons.

Trials demonstrated that the Maxim could fire 600 rounds per minute.[3] Compared to modern machine guns, the Maxim was heavy, bulky, and awkward. A lone soldier could fire the weapon, but it was usually operated by a team of men. Apart from the gunner, other crew were needed to speed reload, spot targets, and carry and ready ammunition and water. Several men were needed to move or mount the heavy weapon

It was not Russian invention, rather the Russkies bought the license to manufacture them
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You're talking to me like I'm 5 years old. laugh.gif

I was saying it is unique because the Russians were the only ones to figure out they need some modification to the gun to enable them to use the one cooling material they had a lot of: snow.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 22 2016, 08:34 AM)
A M1910/30 Russian Maxim to be exact. 

The large cap on top of the water jacket is for putting in snow to cool the barrel during firing. Uniquely Russian I say.  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif snow cooled 1910 Maxim with.... is that a red dot sight? Its like something out of a dystopian fantasy!
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 21 2016, 10:22 PM)
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got sos for the maxim gun pic?
Wiki page says no citation for MAXIM use in Donbass war, I wanna add that citation rclxms.gif

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