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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC
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SUSJasonLeeX
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Jan 20 2019, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:37 PM) by the way re u bukit jalil investor? No, I'm not a BJ Investor. I just like to go around and disprove people who likes to make up nonsense as if property talk is a kopitiam section. Whenever I post a point, I will back it up with facts and if I post something that is non factual, I will say it is my opinion. However, some people (especially those with many stars) in this forum likes to think their assumptions are facts and when we ask them about it, they will just shy away from an actual argument or the question as a whole. I felt that at least I am doing my part in contributing to this forum for genuine buyers who actually rely on the forum for helpful insight and to disproved those who likes to make shit up in a serious forum. This post has been edited by JasonLeeX: Jan 20 2019, 01:57 PM
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icemanfx
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Jan 20 2019, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jan 20 2019, 01:56 PM) No, I'm not a BJ Investor. I just like to go around and disprove people who likes to make up nonsense as if property talk is a kopitiam section. Whenever I post a point, I will back it up with facts and if I post something that is non factual, I will say it is my opinion. However, some people (especially those with many stars) in this forum likes to think their assumptions are facts and when we ask them about it, they will just shy away from an actual argument or the question as a whole. I felt that at least I am doing my part in contributing to this forum for genuine buyers who actually rely on the forum for helpful insight and to disproved those who likes to make shit up in a serious forum. Similarly for those with vested interest, exaggerate facts and potential. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 20 2019, 04:09 PM
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 04:43 PM
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nowaday project cannot believe... better go for subsale... always purpose purpise but in the end all cancel..then investor cry
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:15 PM) pavilion reit already no join, and mall still can use brand pavilion??? commonsense Based on what logic/common sense you pull this from?? Under pavillion reit means everything needs to be pavillion “branded” ? Intermark & da men need change name to pavillion? This post has been edited by selinix: Jan 20 2019, 07:34 PM
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Lim wontlose @ Jan 20 2019, 07:43 PM) Tat y Damen not very ong... intermark still ok have office Your comment is not relevant to my question
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 20 2019, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Jan 20 2019, 07:34 PM) Based on what logic/common sense you pull this from?? Under pavillion reit means everything needs to be pavillion “branded” ? Intermark & da men need change name to pavillion? you can read between the line what pav reit is trying to say...…. 1. pav bj may not be using pav brand name, hence pav reit wont want to commit to inject this mall into its reit now. 2. pav reit forseen pav bj wont be successful, hence pav reit wont want to take the risk now. 3. pav reit knew pav bj (or whatever name later it uses) wont be owned by desmond, hence pav reit wont wat to inject into its reit now.
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Lim wontlose @ Jan 20 2019, 08:13 PM) OMG... u try intermark or damen Change it to Pavilion Name la... c ong or not You buy park 2 how much ?? Which layout ?
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 20 2019, 08:11 PM) you can read between the line what pav reit is trying to say...…. 1. pav bj may not be using pav brand name, hence pav reit wont want to commit to inject this mall into its reit now. 2. pav reit forseen pav bj wont be successful, hence pav reit wont want to take the risk now. 3. pav reit knew pav bj (or whatever name later it uses) wont be owned by desmond, hence pav reit wont wat to inject into its reit now. or simply PAVREIT just doesnt want to be overgeared at such challenging market.. i prefer to refer to more fundamental analysis than to just simply make assumptions hence i directed the question to the dude who said the mall need change name because pavreit at this point in time decided not to participate in the acquisition.. This post has been edited by selinix: Jan 20 2019, 10:55 PM
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 10:57 PM
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All developers come Bukit jalil to develop condo havre earth skyluxe tropika Revo because of pavillion 2 all using this to make advertising, now all Project sold , then sundenly say pavilion reit cancel lolzzz maybe management will change lolz , if just a normal shopping mall , it’s no point to consider buy Bukit jalil this price this location ..... so far to go city centre
This post has been edited by morris6660: Jan 20 2019, 11:00 PM
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Jan 20 2019, 10:57 PM) All developers come Bukit jalil to develop condo havre earth skyluxe tropika Revo because of pavillion 2 all using this to make advertising, now all Project sold , then sundenly say pavilion reit cancel lolzzz maybe management will change lolz U understand how REIT works sir? Not sure if you know what you are talking about
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Lim wontlose @ Jan 20 2019, 07:41 PM) Last comment here la... dun think wat the hell can do Airbnb la... hu will come here stay ? Tourist ah? Stay here for wat ? Take photo with park ? Go c concert at stadium ?I m tourist at leaset I go stay velocity there or klcc lo... come Malaysia so far and then nid to walk to lrt and go klcc ? Hello guys !!! i signed snp long time... I know I cannnot reverse... last hope is opposite the empty land will build office tower and commercial hub then bukti jalil city can Ong because have moving ppl coming in... jibet so many condo here but no commercial hub... hu will come... only the fuxking mall not enoght to support the surrounding 10++ condo de If got pavillion park 2 got hope high occupancy rate , other condo hard already who will rent there , and so much condo high density , rental low
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 20 2019, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Jan 20 2019, 10:54 PM) or simply PAVREIT just doesnt want to be overgeared at such challenging market.. i prefer to refer to more fundamental analysis than to just simply make assumptions hence i directed the question to the dude who said the mall need change name because pavreit at this point in time decided not to participate in the acquisition.. His own mall he also no confident???? Then who should have confident in the mall? You know pav reit is owned by him also rite?
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 20 2019, 11:05 PM) His own mall he also no confident???? Then who should have confident in the mall? You know pav reit is owned by him also rite? Desmond lim owned pav reit and malton , him no confident of him own mall and who still confident on him project .....
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 20 2019, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(morris6660 @ Jan 20 2019, 11:08 PM) Desmond lim owned pav reit and malton , him no confident of him own mall and who still confident on him project ..... Wait for it. Park2 army supporters........
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 20 2019, 11:05 PM) His own mall he also no confident???? Then who should have confident in the mall? You know pav reit is owned by him also rite? I am talking about gearing. Go read some banker analysis of what pavreit need to do if they inject into the mall it will hit their 50% gearing cap. Not interested to talk about speculations / name change / mall failure.. This post has been edited by selinix: Jan 20 2019, 11:19 PM
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 20 2019, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Jan 20 2019, 11:18 PM) I am talking about gearing. Go read some banker analysis of what pavreit need to do if they inject into the mall it will hit their 50% gearing cap. Not interested to talk about speculations / name change / mall failure.. Not talking abt name change and etc... How will banker know now how pav bj will perform???? Base on budgetary figures???? Malton cant produce a solid forecast or bank wont accept budgetary figures??? If banks only want actual data....then why pav reit even annouced to the world NOW that pav reit wont buy pav bj? If banker accept budgetary figures meaning banks also wont support pav bj figure??? So which one is true? Am not familiar w reit work.
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morris6660
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Jan 20 2019, 11:29 PM
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Park 2 this project only can approve 80% of spa price only , that’s means a lot bank no confident on this projext too
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selinix
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Jan 20 2019, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 20 2019, 11:23 PM) Not talking abt name change and etc... How will banker know now how pav bj will perform???? Base on budgetary figures???? Malton cant produce a solid forecast or bank wont accept budgetary figures??? If banks only want actual data....then why pav reit even annouced to the world NOW that pav reit wont buy pav bj? If banker accept budgetary figures meaning banks also wont support pav bj figure??? So which one is true? Am not familiar w reit work. Lazy to type long long, just go find out how much is PAVREIT current borrowing with bank and how much they need to borrow some more to acquire Pavillion BJ then you know what i mean by gearing..
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 20 2019, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Jan 20 2019, 11:30 PM) Lazy to type long long, just go find out how much is PAVREIT current borrowing with bank and how much they need to borrow some more to acquire Pavillion BJ then you know what i mean by gearing.. So you are implied that pav reit is overgeared now??? It has nothing to do with pav bj?????
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