Link to v1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/632630
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Hi to all sifus, I am looking to purchase the SPK160, RX-V679, and possibly NS-SW300. Generally, I was looking around for a good bargain on yamaha systems. Any recommendations?

sw300 is not as good as it look

V679 is pretty good, yes to that.
Yamaha SPK160 is pretty decent too depending on the price, because there are options that are better than it at a lower price point.

Can't recommend the NS-SW300 (or even the smaller SW200). Very monotonous, there's depth but just doesn't scale well. Always sounding quite disconnected even with Yamaha's own speakers.

Noted. Usually Yamaha sellers might bundle the V579/V679 with SPK160 at a lower price. So far these are the packages I have seen in Harvey Norman, Senheng, etc or online websites. Where else I might able to find Yamaha re-seller?

Any comment for Yamaha s 501 or s 701 integrated amp ? Looking for stereo amp pair with Yamaha av receiver, and with by pass function when watching movie.

Hi all sifus. I encounter a problem with my receiver RX-V379 and Bluray player BDP-S370.

I can't seem to get the DTS-HD Master signal from my bluray player into my Yamaha receiver. The display on my receiver is always showing PCM.

I had done the necessary setting on my bluray player and tried many different settings but my receiver is always displaying PCM.

Does anyone here encounter the same problem as I do? If so, could you all enlighten me?

Did you set the player to bitstream ?

yup...make sure it is bitstream and no LPCM or auto mode

Yes. I did the bitstream setting and my receiver displays only Dolby Digital but not DTS-HD. Wonder what's wrong.

My bluray disc has diff audio setting:

1)When i choose Dolby Digital the display will show Dolby Digital

2)When i choose DTS- HD Master audio the display changes to PCM

This post has been edited by ehklee: Feb 28 2016, 10:34 PM

Ur bluray output i assume u hv checked to ensure bitstream right

What player r u using?

Local bluray disc or region A?
Sometimes d local copy got audio track issues

u use auto surround decoder?
try straight mode. solve a lot of kind issue

Is it every BD you tried had the same problem ?

I bought the Bluray disc from Hong Kong. I assume it's region A?


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Yes, I used straight mode. Then while I played the bluray disc, I tried to change the different Audio by pressing the Audio button on my Sony Bluray remote (the selection choices were already mentioned in my previous message).




I have yet to try my other Bluray disc. Will try it tonight.

Sounds to me like your BDP is decoding the DTS/DD streams and then sending it out as PCM/LPCM to your receiver.

I set my surround as Straight. Then when I checked the Signal Info, it is getting the Dolby Digital signal.

Hi sifus, currently. I'm. Using Yamaha YHT-S401(reveiver model sr-301), I would like to add a pair of speakers to it, mostly for music, any recommendations for speakers below rm800/ pair?
Thanks

So DD works, but DTS is being decoded into PCM?

Okay, one other question; is the PCM stream in 2.0 or multi-channel LPCM? Because if it's the latter, you actually have nothing to worry about (as long as the multi-channel source is being played properly to the exact speakers).


Sony SS-CS5, RM699

There's only a handfull of bookshelves available locally that performs as well at this price point.

Hi guys, I have underutilized 15 years old Yamaha HTR-5230 bought by my dad back in 2001 with McLaren 5 channel speakers . Anyone know how to recabling this thing? It has been in storage room about 5 years already.

EDIT:

Ok, Now I know a little bit about Tag McLaren Audio. It's High-End HiFi Speaker around 1999-2003. Dayumm..

This post has been edited by kayro: Mar 2 2016, 06:10 PM

put some pic of connction side will guide u better

This post has been edited by ktek: Mar 2 2016, 07:03 PM

How to check this? I'm still a newbie. Sorry for asking too many questions

Shouldn't there be an info button or something that shows the basic audio/video formats being played? Check your manual.

Sifu, i also noticed this, but do you know where can i get this?
i browsed Sony Malaysia website and its out of stock

Because they ARE out of stock. Has been selling like hot cakes since a few weeks ago.

New stocks should be coming in next week or so, basically by the end of the month.
I shouldn't have advertised them so much.

No wonder la, under promotion sifu, sure become hot cakes lol
Anyway thanks sifu, I will keep on tracking this post for the update :-)

Got an A850 for a decent price as a secondary receiver for my secondary small bedroom setup, pairing it up with a SVS 5.1 Prime Satellites.

Did some half-assed YPAO without proper mic placement, only single point measurement instead of multi (didn't have time) and no bass traps put up yet. Pretty impressed with the result.

Hopefully have some time this week to tweak and optimize things more, but so far the A850 with the Prime Sats is pretty good combination.

congrats on new machine. a850 has atmos
can post some pics

Yeah just waiting for currency to get better or when KLIAV 2016 comes around, then get the bookshelves + another SB1000. Will be doing a 5.2.2 setup for the secondary bedroom.

Will post pics later once the whole room is set up properly, it's quite incomplete now that I also malu to show it off.

Congrats. You use Yamaha for main system as well ?

Main system is an A2040 with KEF Q series setup (4xQ100 + Q200 + SVS PB1000), looking to change it for an Arcam 850. Too bad it costs more than a kidney and liver added together.

Then again, I'm also looking forward to this year's Yamaha flagship A3060 (presumably) which will definitely be cheaper than the Arcam 850, though not as good.

Why you say that arcam is better ? What is the price for arcam?

Many reasons, but the most obvious ones are:

1) Arcam doesn't cheap out on components, it's quality through and through.
2) They do very little of that bs overated power per channel nonsense like rating them at 10% THD or some so called "JEITA" spec.
3) Full fat, no-nonsense Dirac Live which blows the crap out of YPAO RSC with 3D angle management and Audyssey XT32. It's the next best thing to a manual tweak via miniDSP.

Price I was quoted is about 28k, thanks to ah jib.

That said, I still like Yamaha. I think they're the best balance in terms of price-performance-reliability. That's why I still wouldn't mind having my main system using a Yamaha flagship, even if I know I'd prefer the Arcam.

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Yes Yamaha definitely is price per performance. I totally don't think is worth the money for the arcam. Seriously I think Arcam is good for audio but when come to HT, I don't feel the same

I thought anything that is good for audio should be good for HT. However, not the other way round.

Not exactly. The way the hardware is design and build for different purposes can be good only in 1 thing but not the other

Hmmm... to me, anything that is good for music is good for movies/games.

TBH though, different receivers sound different because they use different room EQs and measurements. This is the most significant difference between them.

If you put 2 receivers from say Yamaha and Marantz side by side, set them in pure direct, the difference in sound quality is rather subtle. It's there definitely, but not significant enough to draw out a wide conclusion on which is better. After all, better on paper does not mean better to the ears, that's audio.

amp that tuned to slow trancient speed cannot fit ht action movie right.

I found out that today avrs makes subtle differences when compared to some stereo int amps.

However, the significant could be found when compared to pre and power setup, especially the dynamics.

I believe almost most amp tuned to cater high dynamic transient, the problem is the amp couldn't respond fast enough to those transient.

Have you considered EMotiva XMC-1?

i am new to receivers.

I am planning to get 1 unit of A850 at RM 3700. will use it to drive a pair of Dynaudio Focus 140. not sure if A850 has enough juice to drive this 4ohm 86dB speakers.

was considering A1050 if not for the price difference. after will use it mostly for stereo plus mid for movies, with future upgrade to satellites.

also considering V479 but reasearch shows A850 adventage uses better components rite and newer.

I have actually and they're a good candidate as a pre/pro. Of course that means I'll be needing more than a single XPA-5 to complete an Atmos/DTSX setup. It's all about price at the end though.

I'm sure a Yamaha 3060 + Emotiva XPA5 (or 3) would be cheaper than a pre/pro + multi-amp setup, yet the sound quality difference wouldn't be significant. Different in signature yes.


Should be adequate. If you were going to do pure stereo, wouldn't have suggest a receiver. Better to go for an integrated amp instead, but since your plan is to go surround then yeah, the A850 fits the bill as long as you understand that DTSX would not be an inclusion.

If you don't have enough power in the future, you can always get an extra amp for your fronts since the A850 has pre-outs.

The A550, 579, 479 and 379 shares the same power supply (360w IINM).
The 679, 779, A750 and A850 shares near identical power supply, with the A850 only having a 400w IINM.

Despite being called an Aventage, the A750 and A850 does not share many of the components found on the A1050, 2050 and 3050. The A850 is basically the top of the line no corners cut (interms of design within the category) for the mid-range market, everything else below it is trickled down with components and features.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 16 2016, 02:51 PM

that would depend u run as large (no crossover to subwoofer) or small (filter out bass to subwoofer).
large setting may require u enable biamp mode to fully push without affect the tweeter performance

A3060 is out already?

Any price cut for A3040?

Don't think there is A3060 yet. Current is still A3050

Hahaha... hope xx60 come out fast, so we can enjoy price cut on old models, especially at the AV show.

Yamaha had increase price about 20% for all models since last year end. Even the new model come out the price will be high

Thank you Ah jib kor.

mistake. A850 is RM 3450.

how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?

Yes

Interesting is Yamaha 100% buatan malaysia

Are you sure RM3450? That was last year's price, this year is already RM36xx.

Just use the presence speakers output + front out into the speakers. You can't run 2 A850s side by side into a pair of speakers.

its a function to assign unused speaker terminal.
so that tweeter has own amp, big cone has own amp independantly.
u need to remove the jumper link from speaker side, run extra 2 cable.
im using this method

thank you sifu for pointing out the actual step

Too bad the Dynaudio is single speaker terminal.

I wonder how good is music cast speakers. is it able to keep up with long range and no lag ? is it reliable ?

does anyone use music cast for atmos ? if musicast requires power cable, might as well run speaker cables ?

the price is without warranty.

Going to be doing some proper YPAO measurements today. Will compare it with manual tweaking consisting of REW + UMIK1 + Radioshack SPL Meter + Time

You might want to try Gemfive for the v697 for RM2019 after RM280 coupon if they still have stock. You might want to call desa home (kepong/lowyat) to confirm availability to avoid disappointment.

For spk160 you can try vbiz.com if you can self-collect, otherwise the transport cost will significant. They sell a range of yamaha products. Just remember that the prices shown is before gst. Prices have gone up since I bought from them at RM2109.40 inc. gst.

I wonder how much can my yamaha A2040 avr sell at present moment age around 1years+.tq

Around 4-5k+ shouldn't be a problem?

Maybe 3k

somebody using yamaha emx200vcd?

anyone using as801? i know it's not avr but integrated stereo, but any sifus with experience with them?

not sure about the performance. i know desa home @lowyat plaza got yamaha stereo system in dedicated room. i walk in yesterday didn test, just look look see see. u might interest to visit there

Yamaha Announces New RXV81 Series:
http://www.ce-pro.eu/article/yamaha-launch...e-cinema-market

tldr; Atmos and DTS:X support on V581 series and up. That's pretty much the only major "improvement" over last year's models.

next is wait aventage

Yeah well before all of that... they need to effin' release the the firmware update for the current models already. They said early March, now end of March. Bunyi pun tak ada.


...AND it's up.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 30 2016, 10:00 PM

Well just a quick update.
I don't have an A1050, A2050 or A3050. But the good news from those that I know who has either of them is that after the 1.77 update, their receivers can still choose DSU or DTS Neural X to up mix EITHER legacy Dolby or DTS formats.

This is quite a deal actually because Denon nor Marantz after their DTSX update were locked out of using their upmix mode of choice. So a DTS track can only use Neural X and not DSU, vice versa.

Great job Yamaha. This is why they're awesome.

last minute up

I hav got the Yamaha A850 from CMY, including free delivery, setup and explanation PM me if u need contact.

got the airplay, internet radio and server working as my unit connected to synology music and movie server. it is smooth like a breeze.

on internet radio, I notice the malaysia station is lacking those popular channel like BFM or LITE. can I use Vtuner to add in the station or I just stick with whatever Yamaha put in the internet radio list ?

sound wise its ok the components use justify its price. if given a choice, I would go for A2050 and up.

can Anyone also share if they use music cast speakers ?

anyone know what is the warranty period for yamaha RX-V model in Malaysia?

Not sure about radio features, I haven't listened to radio in ages...

I tried Music cast with a Yamaha soundbar not too long ago, works as intended. Nifty feature if you need it.


1 year.

Thanks mate, cause i checked and RX-V in US comes with 2 years warranty. Another thing is if you just got your AVR, you can register with yamaha malaysia within 60days to get additional 6 months warranty.

US is US. Different market.
They have models that Malaysia don't have (RXV779 and RXA550 for example).

I'm still playing with YPAO setting for my RXV679, one question here, you all let YPAO handle all EQ or using manual mode?

I use YPAO as the base, then copy the filters to REW and go from there.

Important thing to note; your version of YPAO only has ONE-point measurement. So make absolutely sure your measuring methods are near perfect. Use a tripod for the mic, place it at ear height on your couch, but about 25cm away from the couch back to minimize reflection.

Then always double check results. Bass management is very important, so make sure everything is in order. Distance (delay) is usually correct, your sub may be adjusted farther away than it actually is but that's because the receiver has to take into account of the internal filters on the sub.

aventege : has anyone flashed to the new firmeware 1.77. is it stable and will the radio station go away ?

Zero problems here with 1.77. I don't use the radio station, but testing it out everything works just as before.

Sorry noob question here, how to you copy the REW file and which software u use to edit?

Another question, if i manually edit the distance, YPAO will take the manual edit distance or the one generated by YPAO?

Quite long to explain, so check these 2 guides:
https://simplehomecinema.com/2014/10/09/yam...advanced-topic/
https://simplehomecinema.com/2014/11/14/yam...advanced-topic/


If you edit the distance after you did YPAO, then the receiver will just follow the edited distance. If you measured the distance before doing YPAO, then YPAO will correct it to what it thinks is correct.
Either way, the distance setting is actually "delays". Having an exact distance from your tape measure to your MLP is not always the best because you will have to account for internal filters, especially more so for the subs. YPAO takes these internal filters from your speakers and subs, then calculate the delays.

Of course if YPAO gives you something stupid like your center channel being 20 feet away when the actual distance is only 10 feet, then you know something is wrong. But if it's within the distance of 1-2 feet from your tape measure, I generally suggest to stick with the YPAO calculation instead.

Thanks mate, wonderful info here

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This post has been edited by stanleyh86: Apr 19 2016, 11:51 AM

Sorry to disturb you again, can share where you get the UMIK-1 and Radioshack SPL meter?

UMIK1 I bought from ebay, second hand.
Radioshack SPL meter just go radioshack and buy.

I am having some problem with my RXV 475.

I was using it with my HTPC to watch Netflix, Hulu and other downloaded media and the HTPC connects to the AVR and the AVR to the TV.

Previously, if i didn't turn on the AVR, i still can get stereo sound from the TV.

One day, something happened and i cannot get any signal to my TV, hence, i proceed to flash the RXV 475 to the latest firmware.

Problem was fixed and now i get back my picture and sound. However, if i turn off the AVR, there is no sound on the TV anymore (it doesn't passthrough).

Any help??

probably after flash with new firmware all setting is back to default,u need to configure hdmi passthrough again

Hmm..i think you're right...i browse the manual again, it seem if the HDMI Control is turn "ON", the standby passthrough will be disabled, which is probably why i didn't notice this option earliar. Tonight i go back test and report back. Thanks!

Tested yesterday..no use, still the same, it's already have the STANBY PASSTHROUGH set to "ON". I have also turned off the "HDMI CONTROL" just to be sure....

Time to send to Yamaha

Where is Yamaha SC? Is it at Kelana Jaya?

Yes

PROBLEM SOLVED.

Apparently it has nothing to do with the YAMAHA....

My TV has this option "TV AUDIO INPUT", there's 2 options "HDMI/PC RGB7". I thought it was "HDMI" since it's connected to HDMI port 1. But apparently, HDMI port 1 is also linked to the VGA input, hence the correct option is "PC RGB7".

I just rerun YPAO and in YPAO:FLAT setting, the frequency curve for Front left and right speaker are not in sync, aren't both Front speakers frequency curve supposed to be the same?

L Front band #1 is frequency 78.7hz and Gain +4.5dB, band #2 is 198.4hz and Gain +2.0. R Front band #1 62.5hz and Gain -3.0db, band #2 is at 125hz and Gain +3.0db

I'm just curious as my surround speakers frequency curve are quite similar, any sifu can help here? Should I be bother by this as the frequency <200hz is very much different for this two front speakers


This post has been edited by silentsunami: Apr 16 2016, 11:55 PM


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No it should not be in sync because you're not in a perfect symetrical or asymetrical room.
When you see frequency charts by manufacturers, they are measured in an anechoic chamber, not in a you know... practical room. So getting different measurements is absolutely normal.

Your graphs don't seem too bad, there aren't very huge 'hills' or 'valleys'. The whole band looks pretty gradual except for the roll off at the 200hz area. Should you be bothered? Well, ask your ears if it the EQ sounds bad or not first.

Great to hear that. I think for my beginner ear, it sound great...kekeke

Hi guys, i have a unit of RX-V379 still remain unopen and im wondering which speaker i should match with. Can give me some advice?

i wondering is NS-P20 okay? or any other? although i have it remain unopen now.

my living room size about 6.4m x 4.5m and connecting to open area dining area about 3m x 3m. i guess it is big but i just sit on the sofa infront of my tv cabinet which shud be like 3m to 4m away from my TV and Speaker. please advise. thank you.

budget for speaker maybe below RM700, is it too low? i dunno which worth the value.

purpose shud be movies and some music. maybe gaming too by connecting laptop and using wireless keyboard and mouse.

If you absolutely need to go for a full set of budget speakers, then at the very least go for the NSP40. The P20 is very tinny sounding, even if your seating distance is only 3m.

RM700 is a bit too low for a decent quality 5.1 setup.
Why not just get a pair of speakers and do stereo first? Add more when you have a bigger budget. I've been recommending the Sony SSCS3 for a while now and I think they're still an extremely good price-performance floorstanders. A pair would cost RM1.2k, so if you can stretch that RM700 budget towards that, I absolutely recommend you do so.

Then in the future, get the center channel (CS8) and get a sub. A 3.1 setup is already pretty compelling as long as you have a decent set of front LCR speakers. ONLY then, you start to look at your other options.

A full set of NSP20 will sound like shit in comparison to a pair of Sony SSCS3 without a sub btw.