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post Feb 20 2016, 01:19 PM

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V679 is pretty good, yes to that.
Yamaha SPK160 is pretty decent too depending on the price, because there are options that are better than it at a lower price point.

Can't recommend the NS-SW300 (or even the smaller SW200). Very monotonous, there's depth but just doesn't scale well. Always sounding quite disconnected even with Yamaha's own speakers.
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post Feb 29 2016, 02:20 PM

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Sounds to me like your BDP is decoding the DTS/DD streams and then sending it out as PCM/LPCM to your receiver.
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QUOTE(ehklee @ Feb 29 2016, 03:07 PM)
I set my surround as Straight.  Then when I checked the Signal Info,  it is getting the Dolby Digital signal.
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So DD works, but DTS is being decoded into PCM?

Okay, one other question; is the PCM stream in 2.0 or multi-channel LPCM? Because if it's the latter, you actually have nothing to worry about (as long as the multi-channel source is being played properly to the exact speakers).


QUOTE(rocktank @ Mar 2 2016, 11:02 AM)
Hi sifus, currently. I'm. Using Yamaha YHT-S401(reveiver model sr-301), I would like to add a pair of speakers to it, mostly for music, any recommendations for speakers below rm800/ pair?
Thanks
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Sony SS-CS5, RM699

There's only a handfull of bookshelves available locally that performs as well at this price point.
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QUOTE(ehklee @ Mar 2 2016, 07:31 PM)
How to check this?  I'm still a newbie. Sorry for asking too many questions
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Shouldn't there be an info button or something that shows the basic audio/video formats being played? Check your manual.
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QUOTE(rocktank @ Mar 2 2016, 11:14 PM)
Sifu, i also noticed this, but do you know where can i get this?
i browsed Sony Malaysia website and its out of stock  sad.gif
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Because they ARE out of stock. Has been selling like hot cakes since a few weeks ago.

New stocks should be coming in next week or so, basically by the end of the month.
I shouldn't have advertised them so much.
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post Mar 14 2016, 02:46 PM

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Got an A850 for a decent price as a secondary receiver for my secondary small bedroom setup, pairing it up with a SVS 5.1 Prime Satellites.

Did some half-assed YPAO without proper mic placement, only single point measurement instead of multi (didn't have time) and no bass traps put up yet. Pretty impressed with the result.

Hopefully have some time this week to tweak and optimize things more, but so far the A850 with the Prime Sats is pretty good combination.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 14 2016, 03:58 PM)
congrats on new machine. a850 has atmos
can post some pics smile.gif
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Yeah just waiting for currency to get better or when KLIAV 2016 comes around, then get the bookshelves + another SB1000. Will be doing a 5.2.2 setup for the secondary bedroom.

Will post pics later once the whole room is set up properly, it's quite incomplete now that I also malu to show it off.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 14 2016, 06:36 PM)
Congrats. You use Yamaha for main system as well ?
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Main system is an A2040 with KEF Q series setup (4xQ100 + Q200 + SVS PB1000), looking to change it for an Arcam 850. Too bad it costs more than a kidney and liver added together.

Then again, I'm also looking forward to this year's Yamaha flagship A3060 (presumably) which will definitely be cheaper than the Arcam 850, though not as good.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 14 2016, 07:14 PM)
Why you say that arcam is better ? What is the price for arcam?
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Many reasons, but the most obvious ones are:

1) Arcam doesn't cheap out on components, it's quality through and through.
2) They do very little of that bs overated power per channel nonsense like rating them at 10% THD or some so called "JEITA" spec.
3) Full fat, no-nonsense Dirac Live which blows the crap out of YPAO RSC with 3D angle management and Audyssey XT32. It's the next best thing to a manual tweak via miniDSP.

Price I was quoted is about 28k, thanks to ah jib.

That said, I still like Yamaha. I think they're the best balance in terms of price-performance-reliability. That's why I still wouldn't mind having my main system using a Yamaha flagship, even if I know I'd prefer the Arcam.
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Hmmm... to me, anything that is good for music is good for movies/games.

TBH though, different receivers sound different because they use different room EQs and measurements. This is the most significant difference between them.

If you put 2 receivers from say Yamaha and Marantz side by side, set them in pure direct, the difference in sound quality is rather subtle. It's there definitely, but not significant enough to draw out a wide conclusion on which is better. After all, better on paper does not mean better to the ears, that's audio.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Mar 15 2016, 09:40 PM)
Have you considered EMotiva XMC-1?
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I have actually and they're a good candidate as a pre/pro. Of course that means I'll be needing more than a single XPA-5 to complete an Atmos/DTSX setup. It's all about price at the end though.

I'm sure a Yamaha 3060 + Emotiva XPA5 (or 3) would be cheaper than a pre/pro + multi-amp setup, yet the sound quality difference wouldn't be significant. Different in signature yes.


QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 02:00 PM)
i am new to receivers.

I am planning to get 1 unit of A850 at RM 3700. will use it to drive a pair of Dynaudio Focus 140. not sure if A850 has enough juice to drive this 4ohm 86dB speakers.

was considering A1050 if not for the price difference. after will use it mostly for stereo plus mid for movies, with future upgrade to satellites.

also considering V479 but reasearch shows A850 adventage uses better components rite and newer.
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Should be adequate. If you were going to do pure stereo, wouldn't have suggest a receiver. Better to go for an integrated amp instead, but since your plan is to go surround then yeah, the A850 fits the bill as long as you understand that DTSX would not be an inclusion.

If you don't have enough power in the future, you can always get an extra amp for your fronts since the A850 has pre-outs.

The A550, 579, 479 and 379 shares the same power supply (360w IINM).
The 679, 779, A750 and A850 shares near identical power supply, with the A850 only having a 400w IINM.

Despite being called an Aventage, the A750 and A850 does not share many of the components found on the A1050, 2050 and 3050. The A850 is basically the top of the line no corners cut (interms of design within the category) for the mid-range market, everything else below it is trickled down with components and features.

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 16 2016, 06:41 PM)
mistake. A850 is RM 3450.

how to biamp ? need 2 units of A850 ?
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Are you sure RM3450? That was last year's price, this year is already RM36xx.

Just use the presence speakers output + front out into the speakers. You can't run 2 A850s side by side into a pair of speakers.
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Going to be doing some proper YPAO measurements today. Will compare it with manual tweaking consisting of REW + UMIK1 + Radioshack SPL Meter + Time tongue.gif


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Around 4-5k+ shouldn't be a problem?
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Yamaha Announces New RXV81 Series:
http://www.ce-pro.eu/article/yamaha-launch...e-cinema-market

tldr; Atmos and DTS:X support on V581 series and up. That's pretty much the only major "improvement" over last year's models.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 30 2016, 02:54 AM)
next is wait aventage
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Yeah well before all of that... they need to effin' release the the firmware update for the current models already. They said early March, now end of March. Bunyi pun tak ada. doh.gif


...AND it's up.

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Well just a quick update.
I don't have an A1050, A2050 or A3050. But the good news from those that I know who has either of them is that after the 1.77 update, their receivers can still choose DSU or DTS Neural X to up mix EITHER legacy Dolby or DTS formats.

This is quite a deal actually because Denon nor Marantz after their DTSX update were locked out of using their upmix mode of choice. So a DTS track can only use Neural X and not DSU, vice versa.

Great job Yamaha. This is why they're awesome.
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 1 2016, 08:09 AM)
I hav got the Yamaha A850 from CMY, including free delivery, setup and explanation PM me if u need contact.

got the airplay, internet radio and server working as my unit connected to synology music and movie server. it is smooth like a breeze.

on internet radio, I notice the malaysia station is lacking those popular channel like BFM or LITE. can I use Vtuner to add in the station or I just stick with whatever Yamaha put in the internet radio list ?

sound wise its ok the components use justify its price. if given a choice, I would go for A2050 and up.

can Anyone also share if they use music cast speakers ?
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Not sure about radio features, I haven't listened to radio in ages...

I tried Music cast with a Yamaha soundbar not too long ago, works as intended. Nifty feature if you need it.


QUOTE(silentsunami @ Apr 1 2016, 10:46 AM)
anyone know what is the warranty period for yamaha RX-V model in Malaysia?
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1 year.
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Apr 1 2016, 02:17 PM)
Thanks mate, cause i checked and RX-V in US comes with 2 years warranty. Another thing is if you just got your AVR, you can register with yamaha malaysia within 60days to get additional 6 months warranty.
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US is US. Different market.
They have models that Malaysia don't have (RXV779 and RXA550 for example).
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Apr 1 2016, 03:00 PM)
I'm still playing with YPAO setting for my RXV679, one question here, you all let YPAO handle all EQ or using manual mode?
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I use YPAO as the base, then copy the filters to REW and go from there.

Important thing to note; your version of YPAO only has ONE-point measurement. So make absolutely sure your measuring methods are near perfect. Use a tripod for the mic, place it at ear height on your couch, but about 25cm away from the couch back to minimize reflection.

Then always double check results. Bass management is very important, so make sure everything is in order. Distance (delay) is usually correct, your sub may be adjusted farther away than it actually is but that's because the receiver has to take into account of the internal filters on the sub.

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