ok. I shut up.

well thats when ppl use PE, NTA etc etc to value it....

What i cannot accept is that ppl are not using 2021 earning as basis, but using 2022 as basis....

Its like today i own a company sdn bhd that earn RM 10mil per year on 2021@ worth RM 10 per shares, but foresee the earning will become RM 2 mil in 2022, then ppl ask telling me that they'll buy my company today at 2022 price @ RM 2 per shares......wth? Then i might as well earn the RM 10 mil 1st untill year 2021 then next year only sell?

Of course stock market doesnt work that way. That why probably i cant be an wise investor in stock market after all

hi. why my CIMB CDS account unable to buy US stock ? no problem with other exchanges. but only for US exchanges the Order Pad is greyed out.

Expensive if you buy for fy22 and beyond based on the analyst eps fy22. Current single digit p/e might tempt a few to go in or those who think profit normalisation will not come so fast.

But ultimately future is expensive and kinda hard to resell it out when the time come when eps start going down. Someone will be catching tomorrow falling knife if unable to timed it well.

I have a good remisier.. do pm me for the contact if you're interested

i think the abnormal event of Covid fueling the glove frenzy is what is causing theese ppl tp be cautious about the sustainability of the earnings when a non covid year arrives and normality is observed.
Will such gargantuan numbers of gloves will still be required? Who knows?

Well, this is true one way or another..
To determine what Company to invest based on their fundamental
& entry with TA, and hold for a very very very long time

Fundamentally the big4 is a 800m and below per annum PAT company. 800m also kinda high side already.

Compare this to similar 800m pat company and their market cap, you will roughly get your true value if no additional market participant like the glove craze involve.

Just have a look at similar earnings co like klk, scientex, simedarby and their market cap.

This reply is actually for the silent readers who are interested in fundamental analysis, for I don’t doubt your ability in valuing a company bro

I think FA is an intricate process and requires meticulous calculation and thinking,definitely not as easy as the metrics of valuation (PE,PB,DE,ebita,NPM etc.) you commonly see online. Secondly you need to think independently and separate yourself from the crowd,yup, easy said than done, especially when emotions are in play.

There are many books written by fund managers/investors worth a read, you may find yourself benefit more from these people than the usual suspect of Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffet lol. In fact, I’d go so far to say Warren Buffett isn’t always transparent with his investment strategy, he commonly uses analogies that sound simple but offer no concrete benefit to investors who want to learn the technical part of investment.

Personally, my investment philosophy is inspired by Peter Lynch and Howard Marks. Anyone interested I FA can search up their books. Btw, Philip Fisher’s common stock uncommon profit is worth a read too. Here are 15 points you need to ask yourself when you value a company,according to Philip Fisher. Good luck!

all kinds la... some even use 2023 or 2024 - sure "normalize", ASP crash, too many players, over supply, no earnings, worthless la.

but for say, tesla... in 5 years time, got laser blasters, anti gravity cars, teleport machines... nothing is too high.

CDS is for bursa.

for US or any foreign bourse, u need to sign separate forms - talk to yr broker.

Wow, what happen to glove counter today?

Careplus 20%
Supetmsx 6%

that has always been the big question.

becos it has so many uncertainties, it is very open, u get all kinds of views, estimates, earnings, PER, etc.

since nobody "really know", will u consider actual current data from QRs, info from the glove makers/sellers?

or the chartists, artists, analysts, IB's or "JPM 3.50"?

must be shorties giving up, closing positions.

rss volume has not been moving for few minutes to top glove..

that's good, will come soon then!

that one was because of Aspion issue

How does this drive the stocks up? Sorry I can't understand

It fluctuated between 15-20 from 2013 to 2018 though
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/stockdetail...pglov/fi-alav7w

Another big blow https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2021/...variants--study

Buying force (driving the price up) is so strong, that those who bet the stock price will plummet give up betting because if the buying force continues to be so strong, their loss will be uncapped. Sky is the limit lol. Now without the resistance from “shorting”, the price will go up without...resistance...lol

This post has been edited by MedElite23: Jan 8 2021, 03:08 PM