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post Jan 8 2021, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jan 8 2021, 03:01 PM)
How does this drive the stocks up? Sorry I can't understand sad.gif
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shortie borrows shares to sell, i.e. short.

if the price doesn't come down but keep going up, they lose their pants.

so, can decide to give up, buy back and return to lender, take losses - closed.

but the surge today... i dunno if it is that or just some other bug buyers buying or a mix.

will know tmr when full data is out on bursa.

some already know by now - they have online data.
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jan 8 2021, 03:05 PM)
I think the trigger now is MCO not the vaccine, see the 180o sentiment shift from recovery
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:09 PM

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post Jan 8 2021, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 8 2021, 01:38 PM)
i like 1000X tongue.gif Can draw the line? brows.gif
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draw out of the wall?

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post Jan 8 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jan 8 2021, 03:01 PM)
How does this drive the stocks up? Sorry I can't understand sad.gif
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When we buy stocks, we have to sell to cut/take profit.
When 'shorters' sell stock, they have to cover their position (buy to cut/take profit).

Stock price increase when buyer > seller.
When 'shorters' are forced to buy to cut loss, they become buyers.

Hence, the concept of shorting will actually drive a price further, either up or down, with great volume.

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post Jan 8 2021, 03:14 PM

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The amount of shares is really mind boggling for TG.
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2021, 04:43 PM)
draw out of the wall?

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CHART.
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 8 2021, 01:40 PM)
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P/E is shiok sendiri.
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 8 2021, 03:15 PM)
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If topglove keep at current price level no change by 2025 maybe is a pe60-80 company.

For a glove producing industrial stock, this is rubbish valuations
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 8 2021, 02:09 PM)
Good explanation..

Now I put another way..

short selling is opposite of Margin trading.

Margin trading is u buy shares with money u don't have (i.e u borrow money)

Short selling, is u sell shares with shares u don't have (i.e. U borrow shares).
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:21 PM

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Cut loss HengYuan and Pohuat. sweat.gif

Re-entered Kossan and Harta. Entered Comfort.

Lai, lai, glove stocks.

In my portfolio now:

Supermax +16.51%.
Top Glove +12.38%.
Carlsberg -2.17%.
Heim -3.96%.


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post Jan 8 2021, 03:22 PM

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Guys, want to ask if oil price is going up what company/counter will benefit? I know there are high, middle and bottom layer for oil company. High is those korek oil one?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jan 8 2021, 04:52 PM)
Guys, want to ask if oil price is going up what company/counter will benefit? I know there are high, middle and bottom layer for oil company. High is those korek oil one?
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those sign contracts for oil priced ordered and have storage. Upstream will not gain until 70USD/bbl.

And dont forget the O&M position, the wreck from negative oil price. etc.


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post Jan 8 2021, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jan 8 2021, 03:22 PM)
Guys, want to ask if oil price is going up what company/counter will benefit? I know there are high, middle and bottom layer for oil company. High is those korek oil one?
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upstream middlestream downstream

hibiscus , valesto,sapura,dayang.... petronm,hengyuan.....

but downstream i think see crackspread ? not oil price right ?


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post Jan 8 2021, 03:26 PM

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MCO sentiment starts to spread.

All looking doom and gloom except glove.
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 8 2021, 02:37 PM)
Expensive if you buy for fy22 and beyond based on the analyst eps fy22. Current single digit p/e might tempt a few to go in or those who think profit normalisation will not come so fast.

But ultimately future is expensive and kinda hard to resell it out when the time come when eps start going down. Someone will be catching tomorrow falling knife if unable to timed it well.
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Yup, that's the danger of current or trailing twelve months eps.

Like, I said, next quarter for TG is already Q2 2021.

Can any research houses give any new TP on TG based on 2021 numbers? They cannot.

And this is why CIMB and TA Securities had already switched their TP using 2022 numbers already.


anyway ...... strategy talk ..... tongue.gif


now if one is playing the market based on these Toilet Paper prices... right now .... to be ahead of the game .... what should they do?

a) should they still use trailing earnings knowing very well that the 2022 earnings is gonna be so much lower?

b) or should they be one step ahead ... and quickly asses the situation using 2022 numbers?

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post Jan 8 2021, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 8 2021, 03:21 PM)
Cut loss HengYuan and Pohuat.  sweat.gif

Re-entered Kossan and Harta. Entered Comfort.

Lai, lai, glove stocks.

In my portfolio now:

Supermax +16.51%.
Top Glove +12.38%.
Carlsberg -2.17%.
Heim -3.96%.
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good to see such great spirit!

dem... i sold kossan, bought back!! laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:31 PM

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so mco makes everything holland but gloves green...haha
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2021, 03:28 PM)
Yup, that's the danger of current or trailing twelve months eps.

Like, I said, next quarter for TG is already Q2 2021.

Can any research houses give any new TP on TG based on 2021 numbers? They cannot.

And this is why CIMB and TA Securities had already switched their TP using 2022 numbers already.
anyway ...... strategy talk ..... tongue.gif
now if one is playing the market based on these Toilet Paper prices... right now .... to be ahead of the game .... what should they do?

a) should they still use trailing earnings knowing very well that the 2022 earnings is gonna be so much lower?

b) or should they be one step ahead ... and quickly asses the situation using 2022 numbers?

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you guys discussed until every gloves share moved except this heavy one laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2021, 03:33 PM

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TG 6.15 BBBBUUUUU rclxm9.gif

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