My advise is to wait just a few more weeks. Im very very sure the oled tv makers will be offering some really good stuff like free soundbar or stuff. U wouldn't want to regret not waiting just a while more to get it. The included soundbars are really worth it

Thanks for the advice bro but we already have a home theatre setup and no thoughts of changing it yet actually.

Just a quick question, the TVs I mentioned and all the TVs these days have auto upscaling to 4k?

I assume the Sony A1 65" OLED HDR is the best TV in my budget?
You can get the newer Sony A8F 65'' with your budget.

What other alternatives? I assumed OLED is still superior than Samsung QLED right in terms of picture quality?
Slightly 'superior' picture quality, but OLED comes with the disadvantage of image retention and burn-in. Reviews for Samsung Q9FN shows that it has amazing picture quality close to OLEDs

Don't mind settling for a cheaper TV because it'll only be used for Astro 99% of the time.
This relate to the previous points, if you're just watching Astro, especially sports or channels with fixed displays (eg channel's name) then you shouldn't be getting an OLED. Not saying it will definitely happen but it's risk that OLED owners have to keep in mind.

Not to mention that your budget is kind of an overkill just for your purpose. Unless you're planning to game or start watching 4k blurays then you should just get a cheaper LED/QLED tv, but if you just want the best TV out there in case you change your mind then that's up to you.

Look at Desa's FB as they posted a recent Samsung promo that gets you a free soundbar and bluray player for the new QLED TVs

I also see a cheap LG 65" OLED C7T with active HDR (?) for like RM9K as per Desa Home Theatre's ad
Are you sure it's C7 and not C6? I doubt C7's price has reached below RM11k yet

Update: I also noticed Panasonic OLEDs as shown below. Any thoughts?
Ignore brands other than LG & Sony if you're getting an OLED

My suggestion is that you should do more research before rushing getting one, because asking these questions the day you plan to buy one does make it seem that you haven't done enough research yet (don't take this negatively). Rtings.com and HDTVtest on youtube is a good place to start, and HDTVtest have posted comparison videos between C8-A8F and C8-Q9FN

All 4k tv should have upscaling functions , it is a matter of how well it performs.
When it comes to upscaling Sony's TV usually take the crown , but the rest are not too far behind





Not much more , unless we are strictly talking contrast rating, in which case Oled will always win in terms of contrast

The newer batch of Samsung QLED , especially Q8f and Q9FN have an incredible FALD system that is very capable of darkening / brightening the HDR highlights.
The Q9FN is particularly impressive .Both TV are also MUCH brighter than any OLED TV on the market now

And you need to keep in mind , all OLED TVs have a risk of burn in , because of the organic compound used in OLED wear out with usage / time
LG and Sony also do not count burn in as Defect , therefore they are not covered in warranty.



All OLED TV have fantastic picture quality , so it is hard to tell which is the best just from price alone .

Just so if we are comparing , A1 was suppose to compete with last year's C7 / B7 , in which LG OLED TV are usually slightly brighter with less aggressive ABL ( although both TV are still bright enough for HDR content to pop out from the OLED screen ) . Sony's TVs are slightly better at processing images .



Frankly speaking , an OLED TV is like that exquisite and fragile and elegant lady , require a lot of caring and self awareness from you . If you are just going to watch some TV shows / sport shows and leave your TV on a lot, the static elements from screen especially the logos & subtitles will increase the risk of getting burn in .

My advice is , if you don't want to be too wary of watching time, you should get an LED TV , the Samsung newer Generation of QLED is quite damn amazing .

Frankly speaking with your budget , you could get a new Samsung Q9FN that has one of the widest color gamut among consumer TV until today. They are also the brightiest TV on market until now and being a QLED , the TV is also free from risk of burn in ( LED Burn in are covered by Samsung as well )




That's a good price for 65 inches . C7 are generally regarded as the best consumer TV from 2017 in terms of performance .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 9 2018, 01:19 PM

cloudlionheart



I totally forgot about the image rentention and burn in issues. I assume it's a lot better now than previous years?



As the TV is primarily for parents and they are not picky at all, plus it's mostly for Astro. They just like the deep black levels from the OLEDs and I noticed the Samsung QLEDs has pretty good black levels too. I really might consider some Samsung QLEDs if they're within budget. I noticed that the Samsung Q9F is about RM18,866 and the Q8C is within budget. Is there a big difference between the two models?

Parents usually watch various channels, documentary (nat geo,discovery), CCTV, news, movies and sports channels. I hope OLEDs would still be alright and would last maybe another 5-6 years at least without those burn in/image retention issues?



Sorry my bad, it's the C6T as per their ad here: https://www.facebook.com/DesaHomeTheatre/ph...?type=3&theater



Thank you! Any particular reason why?



Thanks for the comment again. I'm actually not that kind of person since I actually do quite a bit of research before getting something. It's just that my parents got some extra funds to splash on a TV and they only watch Astro so it's kinda like not a big deal to do that much research They love the black levels of the OLEDs

Convael



Thanks bro. +1 for Sony



That's kinda scary man but my parents do watch various channels on Astro; news, movies, documentary, chinese/korean dramas and sports.

But good to know about the QLEDs. Would you say the picture quality is as good as OLEDs other than the higher brightness as we don't really need such bright displays



Thank you!!! Might be leaning more towards QLED bro!

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Thanks again for the comments bros Convael and cloudlionheart for your advices and patience in replying to my post. Much appreciated

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jun 9 2018, 01:39 PM

If we talk about picture quality for TV , it usually means 1 thing , the contrast rating . Human eyes are actually very sensitive to black and white , therefore contrast between the Peak brightness and peak darkness on the screen is stronger , the better the picture will appear to our eyes .


So strictly from numbers alone , no LED screen can ever come close to having contrast level of OLED screen , as much as most Samsung TVs already have better than average contrast level. However , do keep in mind LED do not suffer from burn in so it can offer you a peace of mind not having to worry about the watching content and time.

The soundbar isn't for you to use. The soundbar is for you to sell, which would bring down the price of the TV much more than any discount that can be offered by any store.

Anyways; the best 65" OLED TV in 2018 currently is the C8, overall speaking - in this market at least.

Panasonic OLEDs were crowned the best last year and for good reason, they offer the best balance of feature sets and calibration capabilities. If Panasonic brings in their FZ950 series here and price it competitively, I'm fairly certain it'll take top spots in most categories.

The Sony A8F at the moment is the cheapest, after all the discounts and what not. Great TV, but I've mentioned that it isn't great for gaming (over 30ms input lag is just barely acceptable) and the aggressive ABL is just a bit too much. It does have pros that neither LG nor Panasonic can match of course and that's in motion handling, upscaling and post-processing.

I went out and got the C7 from desa home. Since lazada don't have anymore promo with free soundbar. Its going for 6599 currently. Best price online as of yesterday is 7399 in Lazada. Desa Home gave a rm650 cash voucher for next purchase too.

Yup its the LG 65" OLED C7T. 9999 for display unit. 10999 new in box at desa home usj.

The 65 E7T is 10999 for display and 12999 new.

Which desa home did u go to? Did u take their extended warranty?

USJ one square. Nope i did not.

damn cheap, i got it like prolly 3 months ago at 8k price!

Best Denki MyTown had the 55" C7 at RM6339 in the last 2 weeks of May, during the whole "we absorb GST" campaign. No soundbar though.

Thats a very damn good price

Thats a very damn good price

Even better price. Desa also has the new C8 on sale for 8999.

I don't think C8 is worth it now , unless you watch a lot of sports , play a lot of fast pace fps / action games or super nitpicky like some of us that demand absolute perfection on picture quality. The processor and BFI upgrade isn't big enough to justify the price .

So yea , congrats on your purchase , you've made a great decision imo

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 10 2018, 07:46 AM

Thanks. The C8 is just too pricey for me. I just hook up the C7 wall mounted. I sit exactly 13 feet away from the Oled panel and it feels big

Maybe i still need time adjusting. Previously using 49inch lg uhd. Picture quality especially on Netflix is amazing compared to before. Issit Dolby Vision? How bout sound? Astro HD showed marked improvement too.
Im a happy camper indeed.

This post has been edited by enkil: Jun 10 2018, 10:22 AM