if ur sources doesnt improved, how good ur spec is.....it doesnt really make a diff

LOL I already accessed mine but I doubt it saved as I turned the main plug off instead of switching it off. The date and time at the service menu indicates the last update made and it was in March not May.

should be fine.....I hope.

Well said. Btw, I hope ASAP could enlighten us on the performance of DVD-2930.

Hi,

Ill throw in de oppo models too... but no agent feedbackla..

Is your Samsung's CMO S-MVA panel comparable with Sony's S-PVA panels. If I'm not mistaken, Sony's panel is made by Samsung too, right? So which Samsung models are using S-PVA panels? The M8 series?

as far as I know AUO's A-MVA are supposed to be equivalent to Samsung's S-PVA which is also used by Sony. CMO produces both MVA and S-MVA. The lower end models of samsung uses MVA (their pixel is shaped like bricks/rectagular) compared with S-MVA which is shaped like honeycombs/hexagonal. They are no where close to S-PVA.

The higher ends like the Mozel series uses S-PVA which is the exact same panel as Sony but the difference in Picture Quality is inter alia partly due to the engine(bravia and dnie).

The 40" for low/midrange like the R81 uses A-MVA panels which thought claimed to be equivalent to S-PVA but in reality, there is a difference under controlled environment. The pixels for A-MVA and S-PVA are shaped like >>>.

So for those getting a samsung, check your panels to know if you're getting it at a good bargain. Check the Serial number which is normally located on the back-right of the screen and the model number behind.

You can tell with alphabets like C,S or A.
Another way which I took was reviewing the service menu whereby you'll be able to see the lcd panel type and manufacturer.

Yet another more convincing yet simpler way is to bring a camera to the showroom and take a macro photo of the screen. Zoom in and see the pixel's shape. It will be more accurate than checking the serial but until now no complains from those who relied on the serial.

So, that means Samsung uses various types of panels even for their LCD tvs too? I guess it's the same scenario as those Samsung 226BW widescreen LCD monitors, there are grade A and B panels in the market so I assume that if the price of R8 drops further, we can assume that it will be replaced with an inferior panel then.

Alright, to clear my confusion, is the S-MVA panel a 10-bit colour panel like the S-PVA panel? If the S-PVA is superior, why is the dynamic contrast for S-MVA panel is higher because the technology is newer? According to Samsung's website, the R8 has a dynamic contrast of 8000:1, the S8 has around 7000:1 while their Mosel F7 series with S-PVA panel only has a dynamic contrast of 6000:1. As for their M8, the dynamic contrast is the highest 15000:1 but of course, I'm not sure what panel that the M8 is currently using. I know these dynamic contrast figures are inflated ones and don't represent the actual value, I'm just curious though why the S-PVA panel sports a lower value. Besides that, how does S-MVA and S-PVA compare to Hitachi, LG and Philips's ALiS panels? Are they more superior or inferior than ALiS panels?

Hope Bro schizophrenic can shed some light here since you know a lot about these stuff.

As far as I know M8 is also using S-PVA and the dynamic contrast...not sure how it works but doubt the panel is the cause of the higher dynamic contrast ratio....I know more about the types of panel as I was figuring out what panel was my R8 supplied with. LOL apart from that I know nutz. Sorry

Perhaps htkaki could share his view. Or anyone else?

On how does Dynamic contrast works and if it is related to the quality of the panel. Also on How does S-MVA and S-PVA compare to Hitachi,LG and Philips' AliS panels?

According to some Australian forums, the 32 inch R8 models normally come with either P-MVA or S-MVA panels but for the 37 and 40 inch R8 models, they're likely to come with S-PVA panels. Hmmm.... confusing, eh? Of course, S-MVA panels are not inferior because they do look better than the previous R7 models.

I noticed 40" R8 to be equiped with AUO's S-MVA at harvey norman with pixels shaped like >>>

never seen a 37" R8 yet

My friend who's working in Samsung as R&D engineer told me, dynamic contrast are just figures, the panels are the same. It's only a firmware upgrade.

It doesn't seem to be the case right now if you were to check the service menu. For example, like R8 models, buyers are getting all types of MVA panels, some with S-MVA and P-MVA, basically, they're from the same manufacturer but the specs are different so resuilting in a slightly different picture quality. It's the same as our Sony PSP handheld, the first batch came with Sharp TFT screens, now replaced by Samsung TFT screens, upon closer inspection, they're not the same.

Only the Mosel series stated clearly that they come with S-PVA panels, hence, the slightly expensive price tag. I guess Samsung is playing it safe by keep quiet about the panel used for their R8 or even their S8 models, otherwise, if not, we can sue them for false advertising especially if they mentioned S-PVA panels but we're given a MVA one instead.

offence under Trade Descriptions Act 1972
LOL

there's a lot of issue with samsung's UK site whereby they stated S-PVA but infact it is shipped with S-MVA. LOL Read in other forums from their user's experience stated that Samsung's customer service replied saying they are all the same and that it is a codename for different manufacturers. LOL Eventually, samsung removed the S-PVA from their website. It was for the R87 and R88. supposed to be the same as our R81 except a few specs being different. Notably the Scart connector and the brightness level ours being 550 .... and theirs 450.

Hey all,

Any views on the LA37S81B? Is it a good buy? Saw MBf's promo in my email and have some idle hands now...

Thanks.

wats the promo? if it's cheap i dun see why not. samsung lcd is not half bad

Eh, the promo is MBf cardholders can buy it for 3900. SRP is 5499. Hows it comparedto other AA/AAA brands? Any users of the S8 or S7 models?

i use S7 model i am not fussy but imo samsung s7 is good
rm3900 for 37 incher? grab it ~~~ i got my 40" for rm4999

so ... my priority will be the R81 ... coz house small ... 32" will be enuf coz viewing distance 6 - 8 ft ngam ngam only ... any suggestions ?

32" is too small. Won't enjoy. Get 37" or 40". 8 feet distance for 37" still ok.

yup, get a 37 incher at least ... for watch my 40" at 7 feet distance