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post Sep 14 2009, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 14 2009, 09:33 PM)
jump management eh? u mean higher position?
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Corporate management, business management, how to be a good and effective manager (including managing people). And business skills as well as mindset.
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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 14 2009, 10:23 PM)
Corporate management, business management, how to be a good and effective manager (including managing people). And business skills as well as mindset.
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ic.. heard that studying MBA in nottingham also very good right?
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post Sep 15 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 14 2009, 10:47 PM)
ic.. heard that studying MBA in nottingham also very good right?
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Not quite sure about the exacts biggrin.gif but should be reputable considering it's a full fledge campus with no difference in certification as in the UK

By the way there is already an MBA thread here in LYN, which is quite active.
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post Sep 15 2009, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 15 2009, 12:03 AM)
Not quite sure about the exacts biggrin.gif but should be reputable considering it's a full fledge campus with no difference in certification as in the UK

By the way there is already an MBA thread here in LYN, which is quite active.
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yeah.. i know that thread but just starting here with the question though. i got one friend studying in nottingham at semenyih there. i wonder how much is the MBA course around there.
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post Sep 15 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 15 2009, 12:09 AM)
yeah.. i know that thread but just starting here with the question though. i got one friend studying in nottingham at semenyih there. i wonder how much is the MBA course around there.
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Here's the price list http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Students/Admi...0Nationals.aspx

Here's the programme info http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Soc.../Pages/MBA.aspx


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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 15 2009, 12:14 AM)
thanks. will look into that but i didnt see any requirements to enter to study for the MBA course?
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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 15 2009, 12:25 AM)
thanks. will look into that but i didnt see any requirements to enter to study for the MBA course?
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http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Soc.../Admission.aspx


The website is not that user friendly i should admit.
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Sep 14 2009, 09:21 PM)
No it isn't. it is a advantage but not a necessity yet. also the abundance rendered it pretty common stuff now, so a good quality qualification from well-known school is more important from a MBA from a so-so school.
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I agree...depend on you...
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MBA is easy
consider MSc .. value better
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QUOTE(BABIyat @ Sep 15 2009, 09:07 AM)
MBA is easy
consider MSc .. value better
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MSC? it is computer science right?
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if you are having a Degree in IT like me and i want to generalize that towrds business..then do MBA. No point degree in IT and then u do Msc. to me is a waste of time. IT is technical. MBA is general macro and micro factors that will affect your business mindsed

Btw, MBA offered some place got specialization. But here's the thing. Dont go for high end MBA. Just a normal cheap one will do.

An MBA is an MBA! and not many places offeres mba so not like ah kiam's school of management can simply offer MBA.
to qualify for MBA offering, a uni has to go through strict process by education ministry.



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post Sep 15 2009, 11:28 PM

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Management is not an "absolute" qualification.
The syllabus itself its pretty much about how you apply your knowledge based on what you learn. In my business paper, my lecturer (also a MBA professor) told me this. You can have zero knowledge about management but you can still get through it with your own reasoning & experience.
Most of it are real life case studies so practical experience can also be used as opposed to academic theory.
Most of the theory also comes from research by professors like Henry Fayol, Mintzberg, Kotler, Johnson & Scholes,.....

I think MBA is very relevant for those :
1) Already working
2) Already have a core / specialised degree (which will create a synergy with MBA)
3) Are being / going to be / have been promoted into managerial position

Fresh grads should never apply for MBA unless they are going to setup their own biz or their parent practically owns the company (family based biz).
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1 thing to take note about MBA. An MBA is for those with RELEVANT working experience like executive or managers. If you are taking MBA now, you are considered matured enough to know and appreciate what management is like.
MSc is more towards upgrading of technical skills in which it can be taken by fresh grads or experienced alike disregarding working experience.
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post Sep 15 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 14 2009, 10:23 PM)
Corporate management, business management, how to be a good and effective manager (including managing people). And business skills as well as mindset.
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You don't need an MBA for that. Nor do people with MBA means they'll get promoted as managers.

QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 15 2009, 11:28 PM)
Management is not an "absolute" qualification.
The syllabus itself its pretty much about how you apply your knowledge based on what you learn. In my business paper, my lecturer (also a MBA professor) told me this. You can have zero knowledge about management but you can still get through it with your own reasoning & experience.
Most of it are real life case studies so practical experience can also be used as opposed to academic theory.
Most of the theory also comes from research by professors like Henry Fayol, Mintzberg, Kotler, Johnson & Scholes,.....

I think MBA is very relevant for those :
1) Already working
2) Already have a core / specialised degree (which will create a synergy with MBA)
3) Are being / going to be / have been promoted into managerial position

Fresh grads should never apply for MBA unless they are going to setup their own biz or their parent practically owns the company (family based biz).
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You don't need an MBA to venture into business either smile.gif

everything can be learn from books without spending a fortune just for an MBA.

Consider the costs of taking up an MBA, then calculate how long it will take you to ROI. It isn't worth it actually, considering that it doesn't guarantee you higher pay nor position.
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Sep 15 2009, 11:33 PM)
You don't need an MBA for that. Nor do people with MBA means they'll get promoted as managers.
You don't need an MBA to venture into business either  smile.gif

everything can be learn from books without spending a fortune just for an MBA.

Consider the costs of taking up an MBA, then calculate how long it will take you to ROI. It isn't worth it actually, considering that it doesn't guarantee you higher pay nor position.
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learn by book and no need to go for MBA? so what you mean is that MBA is useless?
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post Sep 16 2009, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 16 2009, 12:17 AM)
learn by book and no need to go for MBA? so what you mean is that MBA is useless?
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When you go out to work, your MBA is meaningless, though not an absolute assertion.

When you do get your MBA, your salary may not go up just because you got MBA. It all depends on your experience, competencies and deliverables.

Some MNCs may take into account of your education level and re-adjust your salary scale. And that is if you are in a BIG company or maybe a financial institution etc.

And when you get stabbed from office politics, bad dealing with your peers/subordinates, can't deliver results, etc, your MBA can't do you any good either.

Also, how many MBA lecturers are businessmen/entrepreneurs themselves?

If you talk about business, then you should also consider the amount invested into acquiring an MBA, and then calculate your ROI. 1 year? 2 years? 5 years? Then compare this to using that money to invest in other areas, and calculate that ROI. Which one earns you more?

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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 15 2009, 12:14 AM)
wow wow..requirement is not low indeed yawn.gif

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Requirements for Admission to the MBA Programme

Qualifications

Applicants must normally be graduates of an approved University holding at least a second class honours degree or a relevant professional qualification considered equivalent to a first degree with honours.

Work Experience

Applicants are expected to have three or more years of full time management or leadership work experience, normally gained since graduating from their first degree.

English Language Requirements

Either

    An International English Language Testing System (IELTS) score of at least 7.0, with a minimum score of at least 6.0 in each of the four individual elements of the test

Or

    A Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL)

          o A score of at least 600 with a Test of Written English (TWE) score of at least 5.0, or
          o Computerised test equivalent of 250 with a TWE of 5.0, or
          o TOEFL Internet Requirements 100 with 21 in all elements;

    together with a Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT) of at least 600 with an Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) score of at least 5.0.

Sometimes applicants with a low IELTS or TOEFL score may be made an offer which is conditional on attending and passing a preparation course at the University's Centre for English Language Education at the required standard.

Please note that the information contained in this page is subject to change and may be modified from time to time.
   

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im planning for a part time MBA too while taking my ACCA.

Do you guys know how much does SEGI or Notingham's MBA cost??

Thanks
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post Sep 16 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(xcrue @ Sep 16 2009, 09:53 AM)
im planning for a part time MBA too while taking my ACCA.

Do you guys know how much does SEGI or Notingham's MBA cost??

Thanks
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Nottingham's cost for MBA programme: RM55K

http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Students/Admi...0Nationals.aspx

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Most expensive1 ?? wow

ANyone taking MBA at AUS/UK currently?

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