If i'm not mistaken the UM MBA is in collaboration with Carnegie Mellon rite? That's one of the top MBA schools in US.

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Added on September 23, 2008, 10:38 pmCan't seem to find anything about Carnegie Mellon on their site now, probably discontinued..?

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Added on September 23, 2008, 10:52 pmOops sorry to mislead. It is a Msc in IT.
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news.php?id=176487


This post has been edited by entryman: Sep 23 2008, 10:52 PM

Corporate management, business management, how to be a good and effective manager (including managing people). And business skills as well as mindset.

Not quite sure about the exacts but should be reputable considering it's a full fledge campus with no difference in certification as in the UK

By the way there is already an MBA thread here in LYN, which is quite active.

Here's the price list http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Students/Admi...0Nationals.aspx

Here's the programme info http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Soc.../Pages/MBA.aspx

http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Soc.../Admission.aspx


The website is not that user friendly i should admit.

Nottingham's cost for MBA programme: RM55K

http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Students/Admi...0Nationals.aspx

This post has been edited by entryman: Sep 16 2009, 10:04 AM

One more thing I believe that is a key part of an MBA programme is the people that you get to meet.

Of course, budget is the first thing you need to consult when choosing.

But if budget ain't a problem, you should notice that the more expensive it is, the more premier it is, and you get to meet more "premier" people, especially high ranking executives from large companies globally. The learning experience will be different and the ideas and views shared will be different altogether. An of course, not forgetting the networking potential too!

Consider this: INSEAD vs Segi. Or on a similar note... INSEAD vs Nottingham.
Biggggg gapp..

Just thought I'd share this idea of mine.

This post has been edited by entryman: Sep 16 2009, 10:17 AM

oops wrong thread

This post has been edited by entryman: Sep 16 2009, 10:59 PM

As long as you're working/reporting under someone, be it VP of Country or GM of a worldwide group, you're still working for someone aka a worker. And even if you become CEO of a large multinational, you're still a worker coz you gotta report to all your shareholders/board of directors and kena screwed if bad results.

This post has been edited by entryman: Sep 17 2009, 08:00 AM

Haha, not necessarily.
Was just reinstating the fact that no matter how good you are you are still a worker till you start your own business (and not be extremely stressed up and tied up by your own work that your health & family suffers).

And also by networking, it means the status of people who will be giving their input during the entire MBA session.

Take one of the best MBA programmes for example, who do you think can afford to pay more than RM200K and take time off their work?

What do they pay for?

(in no particular order, since all bear the same weight)
1. To network with you.
2. To learn from you.
3. To gain the prestige of the awarded degree.
4. To gain exposure into the industry's cutting edge tools

When you're able to pay that kind of money, and also able to be admitted into the MBA programme based on its stringent selection process, you're definitely someone to learn from, to party and do business with.

That kind of prestige and status gets more and more diluted as you lower the fees and stringency in entry.

This post has been edited by entryman: Jul 30 2010, 02:51 AM

Then maybe you need to dig deeper and compare based on class and alumni profiles. Check which fits your plan best.

No leh..still not in top 100

Okay let's say Strathclyde is 70+ and Nottingham is slightly better perceived locally but is a little bit off the 100 mark globally, but is still a highly recognised international business school, I guess it's safe for the "admin" to consider based on alumni and class profiles, AND I forgot to mention this in the previous post: FACULTY.

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 26 2010, 09:25 PM

Admin, as to your question, Strathclyde definitely wins over Notts in terms of ranking and prestige.

I guess you'll have to consider the cost, and class profile, and faculty. That should be it.

For Nottinghan, the cost is 55k.

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 27 2010, 06:20 AM

Yes Nottingham Malaysia charging 55k MYR. Nottingham UK would be charging around 18k GBP (which is almost 90k MYR).

Doing the Nottingham/Strathclyde MBA in Singapore would be more costly that doing it here in Malaysia. (Based on exchange rate), coz..... (see below)

Based on this, the Strathclyde MBA in Sinagpore costs about 33k SGD.
Source:http://www.ymca.edu.sg/ymca-tertiary/strathclyde/strathclyde-mba/course-fees/

Nottingham's should be around the same.

Do you have other links that point to the 18k SGD? This is strange..how come there's such a huge difference between figures. It doesn't really make sense though, being so cheap.

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 29 2010, 02:05 AM

Notts MBA as well as all undergrad programs are all cheaper here.

This applies to the Strathclyde MBA both in M'sia or Singapore. Also applies to Manchester Business School's MBA programme in M'sia.

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Added on October 29, 2010, 2:11 amAnd yes all are equivalent degrees.

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 29 2010, 02:14 AM

Not taught by the same faculty, but qualified faculty. Usually the faculty profile can be obtained easily from the school, many even publicize them.

Quality is supposedly the same, as the adopted system and defined organizational standards should be identical/of good quality overseen by the home campus.

Though the eventual intrinsic qualities of the graduates might not be identical, based on a myriad of factors. Some of the differences could be advantageous, and some areas could be deficient compared to the main campus. This doesn't mean the quality of the programme is compromised, if you get where I'm coming from.


However, the AMBA, EQUIS, and possibly AASCB accreditation, I believe also apply to the programmes delivered overseas. Otherwise, these 3 organizations would have specifically published the exclusion in some press release or on their website's list of accreditations, no? I do know that a recent press article by EQUIS mentioning they've renewed Nottingham's accreditation, and that they've also reviewed the Malaysia and China campus.

For example, Hult International Business School / and Rutgers Business School do conduct MBA programmes in China.
We can't come to a conclusion that the programme is of lesser quality than the US programme.


These are my own opinion though..

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 29 2010, 02:55 PM

Well this confirms Nottingham's accreditation:

Source: UK collaboration in Malaysia: institutional case studies [University of Nottingham Malaysia Campus]
© The Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education 2010
http://www.qaa.ac.uk/reviews/international...tinghamCS10.pdf




This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 29 2010, 04:16 PM

Maybe what you saw was partial payment/ instalment

Hmm okay.. Yeah MBS ranks better with employers I guess, given its high world rankings.

By the way, anyone here has experience with IB/CF?

I know one of the popular ways to enter would be by getting MBA from a prestigious university. But that would be ideal for people with no experience in IB/CF wishing to make the change. But what about for someone like me, graduating with a basic degree in Finance, Accounting, and Management, from a university in Malaysia?

What are the best ways for me to enter as a freh grad? wallstreetoasis and mergersandinquisition guides don't seem to apply well to the market here I guess. In the UK/US/or other countries where the financial market is largely developed, the process leading to a sweet full time job is fairly straightforward, it's mostly about internship in BBs, smaller firms or niche shops and a whole lot of networking, then get your first analyst job in a BB (or it can be your 2nd/3rd job).

This route probably doesn't apply well to M'sia as the number of openings at such level I believe are very limited.

Do I apply locally, or should I be looking outwards, e.g. CN, HK, SG? But what are my chances? Any advice/experience?

Maybe further education in London, i.e. 1 year MsF (no prior work experience) would do the trick? As I believe again most IBs would be based there, and will be well connected to recruiters both from London as well as overseas. But I personally feel that besides the "opening doors" effect of the 1 year MsF from a prestigious univ, it holds not much academic value (yes it does, but not alot) as I've already got my basics. Again, this would be a great programme for fresh graduates from other disciplines wishing to enter into IB/CF, much like the MBA for experienced professionals from other disciplines.

Pursuing it would be a waste of hard earned M'sian currency, ALTHOUGH it's a waste only if my present degree can do equally well, which is why the need for the above questions.

And guys please don't WHACK on ROI .. I'm merely trying to obtain ideas from experienced people in order to weigh my options and have a clear process view

This post has been edited by entryman: Oct 31 2010, 03:26 PM