UM so hard..got quota system. damn !!!
im planning to take at IBS @ UTM next year first intake.

what is MSU?
my budget for mba is only 21-22K. Im going to study and pay for it on my own. Dont want to rely on parents . Thats the reason why im on a budget

UTM's MBA is considered quite good imho....it should be as good as UM imho. Subject wise, its almost the same as UM

Im in IT field.
to be precise in IT project management..so i dont want to waste my time with an Msc

I wanna do MBA straight coz it will definitely add value to me in a couple of years when i jump.

and another thing i dont wanna sound rude but if people or my future employer ask me what is this MSU, i cant answer..the professor who started this also started MMU MBA.

It just dont sound right. If UM did not have quota system, i would have done there. But too bad im not really exceptional that i can enter there. Plus they got this kind of treatment, i already not song. Later purposely fail me coz im non-malay


So anyway, i think i decided to go with UTM.

Try UTM.
thier next enrollment if im not mistaken is may 09 or June 09
im starting them. come la join me

they just tell me when i want to apply for MBA last year early intake.
They told me this batch cannot coz quota finish. so next intake can..and that also if no one better than me

i decided they arent goina get 1 cent of my hard earned cash man. no way im going to be treated like a 3rd class person with that kind of money

its by bumi/non bumi

if ur not malay, consider yourself a foreigner there then.

my degree doesnt matter coz they told me this even without looking at my degree dude.

if you wanna jump to management, it will be very helpful
im doing mine now.

if you are having a Degree in IT like me and i want to generalize that towrds business..then do MBA. No point degree in IT and then u do Msc. to me is a waste of time. IT is technical. MBA is general macro and micro factors that will affect your business mindsed

Btw, MBA offered some place got specialization. But here's the thing. Dont go for high end MBA. Just a normal cheap one will do.

An MBA is an MBA! and not many places offeres mba so not like ah kiam's school of management can simply offer MBA.
to qualify for MBA offering, a uni has to go through strict process by education ministry.

people here talking about roi etc dont know what they talking about

MBA is useful once u hit 30's. top executives all minimum MBA la. how they get is beside the point. The point is MBA is required for a manager's position especially days like today when u throw a stone and hit a stranger by luck, most probably he has a degree.


But i agree, if u are fresh, u are wasting ur time. Best to get it after 4-5 years of work experience. Im getting mine now. i dont want to be tied out with studies when im married lol!

so its simple, if u want to do it, do it! dont think why or how..coz one day, when ur boss is comparing you to another for a promotion, guess who's gonna get it..the one with mba...but offcourse u must have a good name and good worker la. haha

actually i beg to differ. the assumption you just made is i have not gotten my mba = yes, dont know whether it will help me to get a managers position = false....and i assume it will help = 50/50



Actually I'm not assuming. the fact that I have been given a position to fill in and a requirement for this is that i pursue my MBA.
Position is a management position with 6 months probation and i am only 27 years old

They insisted that I pursue my MBA. They could have sponsored the whole shebang and bonded me for 4 years but that is beside the point. Reason why I got the job? I informed them I'm pursuing my MBA and submitted all the proof and they indirectly wanted someone internal to be promoted and my portfolio was the only one with MBA and relevant experience and the fact my performance level to the org has been good.

I have been given an adjustment of 2500 bucks for this position. My MBA only cost me about 1k a month. So if you want to calculate ROI based on this, I'm actually getting my ROI in 12-13 month considering 100% of the increment is dedicated to the studies.

So practically, I'm not jumping to another company, getting better remuneration and additional 1000 once i finish my MBA completely ( part of the negotiation. Dont ask )



So based on my 'limited' experience, i for a fact know that MBA will help you greatly. that is if you are in an MNC or one of the top 20 firms.
If you are in a ah-keong company, then i dont think it will help

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Added on September 22, 2009, 6:12 pmOh btw, about the degree straight to MBA, thta depends on which uni u head to. real top performers screen you thoroughly before u enter.
Job relevance, years of experience, maturity all come into play.

So basically if you want a good MBA cert, do it at a well recognize uni. That will help you in a great deal. And last but not least, dont enroll into somewhere that is only for 9 months and all you do is write thesis and no class activity is invovled.

This post has been edited by thefryingfox: Sep 22 2009, 06:12 PM

read -> ADJUSTMENT
so its a plus 2500. I dont know about the rest but money is my driving factor man.

I graduated from international business school under UTM.

Most classes are in weekends and assignments or group collaborations on weekday.


Was a tiring 2 years but glad I made it