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happy4ever
post Sep 15 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 14 2009, 10:23 PM)
Corporate management, business management, how to be a good and effective manager (including managing people). And business skills as well as mindset.
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You don't need an MBA for that. Nor do people with MBA means they'll get promoted as managers.

QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 15 2009, 11:28 PM)
Management is not an "absolute" qualification.
The syllabus itself its pretty much about how you apply your knowledge based on what you learn. In my business paper, my lecturer (also a MBA professor) told me this. You can have zero knowledge about management but you can still get through it with your own reasoning & experience.
Most of it are real life case studies so practical experience can also be used as opposed to academic theory.
Most of the theory also comes from research by professors like Henry Fayol, Mintzberg, Kotler, Johnson & Scholes,.....

I think MBA is very relevant for those :
1) Already working
2) Already have a core / specialised degree (which will create a synergy with MBA)
3) Are being / going to be / have been promoted into managerial position

Fresh grads should never apply for MBA unless they are going to setup their own biz or their parent practically owns the company (family based biz).
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You don't need an MBA to venture into business either smile.gif

everything can be learn from books without spending a fortune just for an MBA.

Consider the costs of taking up an MBA, then calculate how long it will take you to ROI. It isn't worth it actually, considering that it doesn't guarantee you higher pay nor position.
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post Sep 16 2009, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 16 2009, 12:17 AM)
learn by book and no need to go for MBA? so what you mean is that MBA is useless?
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When you go out to work, your MBA is meaningless, though not an absolute assertion.

When you do get your MBA, your salary may not go up just because you got MBA. It all depends on your experience, competencies and deliverables.

Some MNCs may take into account of your education level and re-adjust your salary scale. And that is if you are in a BIG company or maybe a financial institution etc.

And when you get stabbed from office politics, bad dealing with your peers/subordinates, can't deliver results, etc, your MBA can't do you any good either.

Also, how many MBA lecturers are businessmen/entrepreneurs themselves?

If you talk about business, then you should also consider the amount invested into acquiring an MBA, and then calculate your ROI. 1 year? 2 years? 5 years? Then compare this to using that money to invest in other areas, and calculate that ROI. Which one earns you more?

This post has been edited by happy4ever: Sep 16 2009, 12:33 AM
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post Sep 17 2009, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Sep 17 2009, 12:01 AM)
people here talking about roi etc dont know what they talking about

Money spent on MBA vs money earned from salary after deducting expense.
Whats the ROI?
At the end, the one with the most cashflow and returns wins the race. Not with the qualification.

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MBA is useful once u hit 30's. top executives all minimum MBA la. how they get is beside the point. The point is MBA is required for a manager's position especially days like today when u throw a stone and hit a stranger by luck, most probably he has a degree.

As mentioned, MBA is not the absolute determinant factor in choosing a manager.

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But i agree, if u are fresh, u are wasting ur time. Best to get it after 4-5 years of work experience. Im getting mine now. i dont want to be tied out with studies when im married lol!

so its simple, if u want to do it, do it! dont think why or how..coz one day, when ur boss is comparing you to another for a promotion, guess who's gonna get it..the one with mba...but offcourse u must have a good name and good worker la. haha
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The one with the best business and financial acumen.

and if their business acumen is that good, why aren't they entrepreneurs themselves?
Too much commitment, scared to take risks, don't know how or where to fund their business, and no idea which business to go too?
So whats the point in getting the MBA? Just to be a good WORKER?

This post has been edited by happy4ever: Sep 17 2009, 02:07 AM

 

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