but hey, it was all my opinion, jangan terasa hati okay
Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
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May 16 2016, 02:52 PM
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but hey, it was all my opinion, jangan terasa hati okay
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May 16 2016, 03:10 PM
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May 16 2016, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ May 16 2016, 02:50 PM) u can always said other things such as travelling, dont be so naive and say that i go work oz ma kutip apple coz money heaven. mana boleh. pandai pandai pikir la. if u got good experience the 1 year gap tutup mata sahaja depends on the employer la. some employer felt u can go down to earth to get ur hands dirty. *some* malaysian companies have pelik mindsite asking why u stop? must have mentality problem, or must have done something wrong kena fire.well, so far what i met here none of the OZ company asking me anything funny |
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May 16 2016, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 16 2016, 03:13 PM) depends on the employer la. some employer felt u can go down to earth to get ur hands dirty. *some* malaysian companies have pelik mindsite asking why u stop? must have mentality problem, or must have done something wrong kena fire. you working at the oz now ? if yes, how can u go there ? what position did they offered you ?well, so far what i met here none of the OZ company asking me anything funny |
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May 16 2016, 03:26 PM
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May 16 2016, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Wan.Him @ May 16 2016, 02:50 PM) u can always said other things such as travelling, dont be so naive and say that i go work oz ma kutip apple coz money heaven. mana boleh. pandai pandai pikir la. if u got good experience the 1 year gap tutup mata sahaja yeah, big IF you know lar asian employers, you can take 1 year off to go travel, how serious are you in work? |
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May 16 2016, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 16 2016, 03:10 PM) yeah, why not. If you can get band 8 in all 4 module, congratulations! there's a guy in the IELTS workshop that i attended sat for it 3 times and still unable to get overall 7... he's darn demotivated we got a bunch of young grades here sitting IELTS for 5 times almost give up... yeah, 8 is hard to get... some can get it, very rare but that guy said he's able to get 9 for reading and listening, very good already leh This post has been edited by kenji1903: May 16 2016, 03:45 PM |
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May 16 2016, 04:41 PM
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May 16 2016, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 16 2016, 03:46 PM) No way u can get 189/190 with your current situation. Trust me. Please read the skill assessment 1st. My wife is chartered accountant but she's not using her pro as primary applicants as is much harder. so using mine as primary coz my professional requirement is lower. Let say if I turn the scenario around. If one who is a fresh graduate and he/she secures a job offer in Oz (let say graduated from Monash Malaysia in this case). Can he/she obtain a visa ? Thanks.Point contribution on experience:- Aust:- 1 year = 5 points 3 years = 10 points 5 years = 15 points Overseas:- 3 years = 5 points 5 years = 10 points 8 years = 15 points My case is i claimed 15 points based on my malaysia working experience which is 9 years. I'm not trying to pour you cold water but you're unlikely to get any visa approval. My advice is get as many working experience as possible. Don't worry, the point system and requirement always change. Plenty of chance to apply. |
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May 16 2016, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ May 16 2016, 03:44 PM) there's a guy in the IELTS workshop that i attended sat for it 3 times and still unable to get overall 7... he's darn demotivated You can consider taking PTE test instead. It's easier to score. IELTS is very inconsistent in it's grading system. yeah, 8 is hard to get... some can get it, very rare but that guy said he's able to get 9 for reading and listening, very good already leh |
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May 16 2016, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 16 2016, 04:45 PM) Let say if I turn the scenario around. If one who is a fresh graduate and he/she secures a job offer in Oz (let say graduated from Monash Malaysia in this case). Can he/she obtain a visa ? Thanks. For that to happen, the company will be preparing a working visa for that person. Now the question back to you is, since you are an overseas fresh grad with 0 experience and unproven, why would an OZ company hire you compared to a local fresh grad?Sorry for being so straightforward. Need some harsh questions sometimes. |
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May 16 2016, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Soony @ May 16 2016, 06:06 PM) For that to happen, the company will be preparing a working visa for that person. Now the question back to you is, since you are an overseas fresh grad with 0 experience and unproven, why would an OZ company hire you compared to a local fresh grad? Let say if I manage to get local Oz connection to get hired over there. If that's the case, is it still possible ? May I ask under which work visa category I can apply for ? Thanks.Sorry for being so straightforward. Need some harsh questions sometimes. |
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May 16 2016, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 16 2016, 05:11 PM) Let say if I manage to get local Oz connection to get hired over there. If that's the case, is it still possible ? May I ask under which work visa category I can apply for ? Thanks. The company will apply on your behalf a visa 457, which they have to justify strongly on the reason why they can't find a local hire.Unless the company is chinaman, they will probably ask you to apply yourself a 489 visa before they will hire you. All in all, visa first then job later, that's the most common route Note: If something looks too good to be true, please consult others for opinions. |
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May 16 2016, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(Soony @ May 16 2016, 06:22 PM) The company will apply on your behalf a visa 457, which they have to justify strongly on the reason why they can't find a local hire. If I go under visa 457, can Border still reject my application ? Thanks for the advice.Unless the company is chinaman, they will probably ask you to apply yourself a 489 visa before they will hire you. All in all, visa first then job later, that's the most common route Note: If something looks too good to be true, please consult others for opinions. |
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May 16 2016, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(mypook @ May 16 2016, 05:04 PM) You can consider taking PTE test instead. It's easier to score. IELTS is very inconsistent in it's grading system. Thanks, I'll look into that!!On a side note, I think we Malaysians (assuming everyone here are Malaysians), really lack the ability to encourage people and be constructive as much as wanting to throw cold hard facts.. Speaking of which I have also met people who got IELTS all Band 9 on the first try.. Ever heard of confirmation bias? Google it up... Perhaps your perception on how you view other matters in life would change. Of course just my 2 cents. Cheers. This post has been edited by xoxlifestyle100: May 16 2016, 05:36 PM |
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May 16 2016, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(mypook @ May 16 2016, 05:04 PM) You can consider taking PTE test instead. It's easier to score. IELTS is very inconsistent in it's grading system. i heard IELTS usually make one module super hard to bring down the overall bands, don't know true or not nah, mine passed already, i didn't claim points for my English... i reckon i was just 1 or 2 questions away from getting 7 in my reading... the other modules i got 7 and 8.5 |
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May 16 2016, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ May 16 2016, 05:40 PM) i heard IELTS usually make one module super hard to bring down the overall bands, don't know true or not Yeah that's what I heard also from my tutor previously. They rotate every week and make one module harder than the rest.nah, mine passed already, i didn't claim points for my English... i reckon i was just 1 or 2 questions away from getting 7 in my reading... the other modules i got 7 and 8.5 |
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May 16 2016, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(xoxlifestyle100 @ May 16 2016, 05:42 PM) Yeah that's what I heard also from my tutor previously. They rotate every week and make one module harder than the rest. i took only once though, and i had the impression that the writing is always the killer... surprisingly writing and speaking came out ok, reading was like fffffff |
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May 16 2016, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ May 16 2016, 05:57 PM) i took only once though, and i had the impression that the writing is always the killer... I got the lowest in my reading are, hahaha. Got damn lazy, got to sleepy. Highest was listening. Overall I got an 8.5, sat for it once Then again, I've only spoken English at home and learnt BM when I went to primary school. Can't speak any other language fluently enough. My parents/ grandparents speak English so from a linguistic point it's considered a first language for me.surprisingly writing and speaking came out ok, reading was like fffffff |
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May 16 2016, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ May 16 2016, 08:59 PM) I got the lowest in my reading are, hahaha. Got damn lazy, got to sleepy. Highest was listening. Overall I got an 8.5, sat for it once Then again, I've only spoken English at home and learnt BM when I went to primary school. Can't speak any other language fluently enough. My parents/ grandparents speak English so from a linguistic point it's considered a first language for me. same, highest was listening cos very semangat as it was the first test i learn my English from reading, being a KL boy, can't run away from English and Cantonese but IELTS is something i don't want to resit... maybe cos i haven't studied for an exam since i graduated more than 10 years ago, hahahah |
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